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J.S. Bach: Toccata and Fugue in D minor - Atlantic City Convention Hall (Boardwalk Hall)Organ
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2013
- Robert Elmore playing the 455-rank Midmer-Losh organ in the auditorium of the Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall (former Convention Hall). From the 1957 Mercury Living Presence LP: Bach On The Biggest
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I have played this organ many times. The sound is mind blowing. The organ is being fully restored after decades of neglect. There are 455 ranks of pipes. Donate to the Historical Organ Restoration Committee, even just a few dollars. It all goes to the organ as work is all voluntary. The world needs to hear this organ playing again. It is truly a magnificent instrument.
Hello Tuba.
What's your take on that pipe organ's 64' full stop - and on 64' full stops in general?
What was it like?
The organ has reached a level of restoration that is remarkable. Dozens of organists from around the world have now played this organ and comment on its majesty and power. It is a mind bending experience that defies description.
There is an official total of 33,113 pipes in this organ. But the exact number is unknown.
What was it like playing the organ?
I got to hear this magnificent organ several months ago. It rattled the very bones of my body. Unforgettable experience.
And it's not even fully functioning right now.
@@andrewkessinger5966 right!? I cannot wait...
Always my fav piece! this organ is even more fabulous in person! i have heard it live and going back to hear it again as it comes alive more and more, thanks to all of us who love and appreciate it's never-ending beauty! !💖💖💖💖
dang.... I can almost imagine the power of the bass notes shaking the entire building, gives me goosebumps thinking about the sheer power of this instrument
It would blow your eardrums if you stand right next to of the loudest pipes.
In person this has got to be the most colossal sound ever; I love this piece and even just hearing this recording makes all the hairs stand up on the back of my neck.
5:17 is where the magic happens.
I've heard this organ in person this past august not that long after they debuted the left stage chamber. It was amazing even at 35% playability!
Sky Walker fuck...
Sky Walker
I feel the same way bro
Mind you, this organ hasn't been functioning at over half power since 1944. It's currently being restored and they're taking donations. You wanna hear what it sounds like at full power? Chip in, yo.
I can hardly wait to hear it when it's finished. The power and beauty of this organ is
just unbelievable and awesome!!!!!
It's a masterpiece in music.
JSB would be onored to have his master work played on the biggest and most complex instrument in history.
pople I am sure he would be humbled deeply
Half of the city block was shaking when this thing was playing. What a power!
+Mećem Odzada I am very sure of that!!
I hope I live along enough to hear this organ fully restored.
The largest instrument made by mans hand just incredible
Every weekday at noon you can hear the organ played by Dr. Ball. He will then take you on a little tour of the workshop to show you how it is being restored. It is amazing and is only a fraction of the way to being restored. I have a copy of this recording.
What really? Well off to Atlantic City then!
Got to hear that live once in your life. Or even play it yourself on this instrument. If you imagine the sound through the bad sound quality of this recording, it's got to be enormous.
I have had this LP for many years and always enjoy playing it, especially after seeing several programs on this stupendous organ over the years.
The 64 foot stop in the Midmer-Losh at Boardwalk Hall (Atlantic City Convention Hall) is indeed working. As far as I know, it is one of the ranks that never fell into a cannot-be-played state. It works!
listening to this on my computer does absolutely no justice. I hope they get this organ back to 100% operation.
+Ryan Berry There's a new outfit overseeing the restoration and raising funds for it. Why can't someone with Bill Gates or Donald Trump amounts of $$$$$$ just thrown enough money at them to get all the materials and people they need to get it done quick as possible, then establish a fund to maintain the organ and building?
They just fixed it for the Miss America show. It works perfectly (and in tune).
Those low notes.... you feel them in your bones. So wonderful
this is surprisingly precise given the size of the instrument and hall! Not mushed together at all. Very nice indeed!!
I always Love to hear Bach , and it sounds wonderful on that organ!
Personally I could listen all day to am instrument that has been refurbished as well as this organ.
Largest or not it was enjoyable.
Best version of this Toccata and Fugue Performance, even if this organ has a 64' Stop to make it sound MORE POWERFUL!!!!!
Glad I have this whole album, remastered, on CD. :)
I would pay to hear this on the restored Organ with a Organist of the same caliber as E Power Biggs.
Hector Olivera perhaps?
Actually the recording quality is pretty good---try playing it through speakers that can handle a lot of bass and you'll see what I mean. After hearing it that way I'm beginning to understand why the engineers balanced it the way they did---it can literally be earth shaking!
Flababo well, it was described as sounding like an helicopter, so yeah
Just played this through my Sony Muteki 7.2 surround sound system... The whole house was vibrating
+RICKROLLBLENDER Yeah but RUclips only provides 2.1 stereo sound, sadly.
Virtual surround or even just stereo through any surround system still sounds way more amazing than any stereo speaker
oy, another furry i see
The name of the organ is "Poseidon"
More like “leviathan”
I imagine my chest would be vibrating with every wonderful bass note.
It would probably rip me into pieces, due to about fifty steel birdshot pellets lodged in my chest around my lungs, heart, liver, stomach, and diaphragm. I would still enjoy every bit of it, however.
Looking forward to the finished restoration of this treasure!
goodness me, one can only imagine that bass in person. It must set off earthquake sensors miles away.
Marcus Gaudio My Dad was planning to do that very thing just before he went off to college--build a pipe organ in his basement. My grandparents were thrilled that he went to college BEFORE cutting holes in their roof to accommodate the longest pipes.
OH MY GOD THAT IS AWESOME!!!
same guy
I am Marcus i am just using a different account
cowshooter 74 Got it. Hi Marcus! I should have said, he PLANNED the project. He never did build it. He settled for a synthesizer. More portable, you know. He still loves organ music, though, and would be thrilled to see how lovingly this organ is being restored.
Interesting-I went on an organ crawl of the largest church organ at the 1st Congregational Church in Los Angeles. I purposely asked the engineer how much horsepower total the blowers had-35-compared to the (to be exact) 667hp of the Convention Hall Organ-just a bit of difference in power!
Some of CCLA's "pipes" are electronic in nature so no wind needed
The magnificent organ at 1st CC is a hybrid (not sure of the %) so they wouldn't need as much wind as the all pipe ML
I highly recommend buying a CD copy of the album Bach On The Biggest which has this song. Turn it up LOUD, and rattle your windows! Good fun!
That's just amazing great sound. Hope God and Bach are listening from Heaven.
This thing is WAY bigger than Wanamaker. I wonder if mankind can go even BIGGER? Yes, that's a challenge to organ builders across the globe.
I can imagine just hearing this in person, let me rephrase that, I can imagine just FEELING this in person.
This is definitely something that I think everyone should experience at least once. You're right, it's more than just hearing it. You FEEL the notes reverberating through you, the power of the organ shaking the entire world.
If you get a chance, take it. You'll never forget it.
Just a shame that only a portion of the organ is playable right now. If I remember right, this recording was done back when it was fully functional. They're in the process of restoring it, but I doubt we hear it sound all of its pipes any time soon.
You really feel the diaphone-dulzian more than anything else
DeltaPhi79 I read somewhere that it is now about 50 percent functional now.
+DeltaPhi79 I think in the 50s when this was recorded she was somewhere around 50% operational ( don't quote me on that) she lost a fair amount of functionality in the 1944 hurricane
Took the tour today---I want to hear the wedding march played on this organ. If anyone associated with the restoration and tour wants my opinion contact me.
this is available on cd-thru ACCHOS-Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society
Listen to this on headphones and be amazed
I got to sort of (play) it and tour it briefly and turn on the grand ophicleide (it didn't want to turn on and took a couple of tries) but it sounded good. I bought this CD while I was there. The curator Carl Loeser showed me a lot and it was very interesting. It is a tight fit in the chambers; climbing and such, but it was really interesting
fantastic !
cant wait to hear when restoration complete
Bach would wet his pants if he was in that room during that recording.
My speakers are having a heart attack... This is the only instrument out there to get me to believe in some sort of god...
In my imagination I feel a scene while hearing this. And the scene is AWSOME
This is really powerful my eardrums are still ringing
Shania Salie "Poseidon" tends to have that effect.
Wat een project daar heb ik veel respect voor sorry wat een enorme kostenpost vrg Hans
Dear Santa...
...I want to own a Gresley A4 and build a copy of Boardwalk Hall in the UK with a copy of M-L Opus 5550 in it! ;-)
I actually found this album-I call this EARTHQUAKE!
All other organs shutter after hearing the power of the big M
Indeed! I am OK with personal interpretations of the written musical notation, but jumping to quintuple time when not indicated is a bit too much! When I was preparing this same piece for my AGO performance, my German trained instructor would have had a heart attack had I suddenly jumped to rocket tempo during the several 'recitatives' I heard in this performance!
that organ looks like a space ship ! would love to play it.
Here is how I want to go out. I want to dress up like the Phantom of the Opera, sit down in front of this magnificent instrument, turn that beast up to 11 and scare the living daylights out of everyone within a radius of five miles, because they will think it is the Second Coming.
This recording is just astounding. Tremendous and overwhelming. Just wait until they get the whole instrument back into shape. I hope I am around to hear it.
the 64 is correct but the losh does have one that much is documented and the stop would not be soo much heard as its below hearing range of the human ear, but its deep bass would be more felt as its used for foundation of sound.
I always like a big organ. :)
Yes I know.
Everybody wants a big organ
I've seen this instrument with my own eyes, but never heard it play. It's impressive enough just to look at.
Holy fuck he played that quickly...both my parents were organists growing up. They were both music directors in different churches. My dad played this for me once because I told him it was my favorite.
This is the best thing I have ever heard
I just wish I could watch the person actually play it. That would be fascinating to me.
How would he use so manuals, stops and dampers.
I am sure Bach and Motzart would have loved to play about on something like this!
Mozart is not spelled with a T. "The More You Know"
Sorry, as I have said elsewhere I am not a very good typist.
And please don't be so petty' particluarly when you have Americans used the past -paticipal to a verb either in present or past tenses with "ize"''
when native use ise.
Just goes to show that there is Englsih and then you have "Americanese"
Quick note. I am not american. And can i guess you are British?
Yes, I have to admit that I am from England. Sorry if I mistook your phrasing as American and if it casued offence.
Thanks
Chris R
Yes, your explanation is far better than any I have received to date.
I know that I have seen a stop pulled and several keys remotely depresessed at the same time; but what I wasn't sue how the person who built links would know how (the would be) Chord would sound when played with the other manuals, together with pedals. I beleive I am right that some of the dampers control the pedal section as well. Is that right?
When writing for a multiple manual organ, I know that there are thre cleffs, the bottom one being the "pedal cleff". How would the composer know which links provide the correct chords and the depth of those chords?
As an example if there is a Chord which has a "tied Breve" (i.e. a note with a value of 16 beats) , and then on clefs 1&2 you need to use a similar set of notes which would be say minims, or a chrochet in the main score, how would the organ cope with that?
A genuine question as these instruments have always fascinated me. As someone who plays a piano, I find it difficult to read two staves, let
alone 3 !
Thanks
Chris
A superb performance on an astonishingly powerful instrument.
They need to release this album on CD restored.
Lost it in the playback for me but I can see live it would be heart stopping :)
Literally if you were in the right (wrong) chamber when it was being used
Für alle die es nicht wissen , dies ist die größte Orgel der Welt!
Es un magnífico órgano musical tal como me gusta escuchar, felicidades saludos.
Like comparing a Saturn 5 launch to a symphony orchestra...
I'd like to see this guy play this song on the 455. What a chilling experience that would be.
SO FREAKY!!!
holy crap!
Wow. I can't imagine what that instrument must h ave been like when it was working.
I don't care what they play on it, I would love to hear it fully functional, I'm sure you agree!
I do. I heard some of the other old recordings and they're amazing, even though the recording tech. wasn't that good then.
Wow! Spooky!
Monte Maxwell recently played this on the M-L and I still think this recording is better, I always seem to prefer Elmore’s version. I don’t know if it’s his registration or what, but I’ve ALLLWAYS preferred this version.
OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Much better said than I! Thanks!
No speaker system in the world can deliver the low frequency that this organ is capable of: the lowest note has just 8Hz! It sounds more like a 2 piston engine...
Actually there is one, it's called a rotary woofer. It's a fan with the pitch of the blades controlled by an ordinary speaker voice coil driven by an ordinary audio amplifier. It gets flat frequency response from 20 Hz all the way down to 0 Hz.
Adam Ahmed
Rotary woofer you say? Sounds a lot like my old dog chasing its tail!
ds1868 At that frequency it is unlikely any human in the world will be able to "hear" the note. That said, 4hz played at a reasonable volume will certainly be perceived. Some will suggest they are "hearing" the note, but it would be better described as a feeling...a feeling that air is moving. More aptly, the description many give is a lack of silence. 4hz can't be heard, but the air is definitely moving and it will be felt.
***** Have you heard the later recordings made on the organ before it went silent? The clip of Ad Nos Ad Salutarem Undam and Abide With Me are glorious - and even they weren't played on the complete instrument.
Hearing the full spectrum in stereo, let alone actually being IN the hall is quite a different experience than this paltry offering - and I fully admit this recording is lacking.
ichalz It's not only a matter of moving air. Besides it you can feel vibrations of this frequency very well. This should bring the music to the new level.
STUPENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Some timbres are not in tune... 🤨
I understand there is more that 33K tubes tune, so this is hard work.
Remember this was recorded 60 years ago, and the organ was already damaged and out of repair at that time. The restoration going on right now has restored almost 50% of the organ to working order, and it is much more in tune now than in this recording.
Oh my God!
Elmore technical abilities are quite good, but he lacks a great deal of subtlety in how this instrument responds. Like with all organs the 16' and 32' (and 64' in the case of this organ) stops take a little longer to build up pressure in the wind chambers and produce a sound. He's going so fast these bigger pipes don't have a chance to build up that pressure and you get an almost tinny, unbalanced sound at times. He slows up at about the 6:30 mark and again from 7:12 to the end and the true bass this instrument has can finally be produced. As a bass fan this was not the best performance I've heard, and a bit of a letdown considering what this organ - even without all its stops fully functional - is capable of.
Agree with you. That speed through the middle of the fugue was simply historic.
Now I can't un-hear it! Darn. Its most evident after the 5:00 mark, for those wanting an example.
You'll be pleased to know that the Dulzian rank (with the 64'), and Diapason ranks (with 32') were some of the first to be restored, along with the 100" wind pressure stops.
If organs were deities, this one is the very Voice of God.
Loudest musical instrument on earth.
This has nothing to my sound system in my car
No doubt
your car? hahaha. Your car is a pittance to this. Your car can;t shake a whole city block
I can just about guarantee your car can't do 138db.
@@KingdaToro Well maybe just once (with the right amount of explosives)
i need to get started on learning this piece. Bach strikes again >:|
Just exercised my stereo system.......................AWESOME...................................................
Ho trovato Bach ma la toccata è scritta come la suona Atlantic. No Sebastian quella è la sua versione americana. La fuga l'ha massacrata . Con le sonorità delle 7 tastiere ne è venuto un massacro armonico. Pace.
Was this recorded when the Organ was fully operational?
No, the organ was already only partially operational at this point.
Rock my soul.
You can just here the unbelievable power of this organ compared to other church organs. They are in the process of renewing the organ and about 10% is playable now. With new blowers-the organ is almost 1,000hp of power!
Going to be more like 35% playable by August, I hear!
J. Hanna Impossible... that prize arsehole Steven Ball fired the curator and his crew of volunteers, work has stalled...
***** What's the source on that info?
J. Hanna Karlfalcon The "Fans of the Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall Organs" Facebook group, in which the core members of the volunteer crew post. As for motive - well, one could speculate... suffice to say that it seems like Curt Mangel is being brought in... which may not be a popular move given how comprehensively he revoiced the Wanamaker job. There are also those who want to respecify the Kimball, removing the more classical features (like the independent straight choruses and mixtures in both chambers) in favour of more and more Tibias (and you can bet the buzzy colour reeds will disappear off the Accompaniment).
***** Believe me when I say, no one but a pipe organ fanatic will know the difference if the organ is voiced this way or that.
This is without the King of instruments. ( I seriously need to upgrade my speakers to appreciate this instrument. )My speakers are from Bose. Any comments or suggestions?
go to boardwalk hall and see it for yourself! :)
+cookingprof In my experience I've found that even some expensive speakers need an equalizer (most computer have them) to boost the bass frequencies. Treble and bass are probably the more pleasant ranges to increase.
+cookingprof Also, I've found that digital audio (like SPDIF (coax/ optical) or audio though HDMI-) is noticeably clearer and pronounced than analog like the AUX connector or RCA connectors (yellow, red, white cables).
What Bose are you using now?
New or pre-owned system?
How much financial resource are you will to use?
Power
When do we get to see someone play it????
Pretty soon, very good restoration work is being done on it.
This is a magnificent instrument and a talented player. I can't help but wonder why Mr. Elmore was in such a hurry in this performance. I have performed this composition many times all over the world and have NEVER hurried through it like this because neither the music nor the instrument deserve such a dreadful recital such as this. It's like his bladder was at a bursting point and he was in an increasing hurry to empty it. If he ever has to opportunity to play this organ again, I hope he visits the men's room before he sits on the bench so he can honor the composer of the music he's about to play, and truly savor this instrument as it deserves.
the beginning plays when you die in bitlife
bellissimo, darrei la vità, per suonare, come lei!?
a proposito, c' è l' ancia da 64' che suona, o non è sta usata, per questa registrazione quà, o c' è l' acustico 128' , che suona ed è usato, grazie in anticipo, per l' informazione data!?
Why is the false notes like on a detuned instrument on 6:40 - 6:45
pipe organ editon
I heard a lot of type of pipe organs even non pipe organs but there all good still to me
This too makes me wanna fry bacon in the nude.
Did the player use the 64'?
nicholas kleinschmidt yes
oh such power from the largest, but it needed to be big as it had to fill what was one of the largest buildings in the world in floor space at the time it was built, and the dreamwork of the senator that had it built, no other organ like it in the world, and none have its records to date like highest and second highest wind, largest consol, loudest stop, and only one of 2 62 foot pipes in the world.
Потрясающий звук...
Rollerball!
wow....
Супер
BBBBAAAAARRRRRRRFFFFFFF!!!!!!
Damn, I ruined a perfectly good shirt.
+bachkirche Please, do elaborate.
why did u barf?
@@beaknewcomer3835 Maybe the sound pressure level was too high?
De tels excès dans le nombre de tuyaux et de claviers nous ont permis de constater que dans le domaine des sons, l’intensité auditive ne suit que de très loin l’augmentation de l’énergie mise en jeu. Il a fallu attendre des vérifications relativement récentes pour comprendre que l’impression de puissance était liée bien plus à l’addition de timbres différents et à l'étagement de ces jeux surtout pour les Principaux (16,8,4,2 pieds) , qu’à la multiplication de sons semblables. Un exemple: pour doubler l’intensité auditive d’un seul violon, il faut en ajouter 37.
C’est pour cette raison que les monstres américains n’ont jamais fait éclater de vitraux ni brisé de tympans. Cette loi se vérifie aussi à l’orchestre où 80 violons ne font rien de plus que 40, à parties égales.
***** Like when you buy a stereo amplifier. To get twice the sound, you have to increase the wattage 10 fold.
Sounds like Cavaille coll organ and the registration was stunning their are some sameness of the recording in 1998 when antoni scott played this piece