This is the greatest example of globalisation. American brand, owned by a group based in the Netherlands, made in Poland, by Italian company, with batteries (probably) made in China. The only thing missing is a polar bear or a penguin 🤣
Thanks for the review Marek. Nice to see new products coming out of that FIAT factory to keep the doors open. I feel that the Avenger could have been abysmal, but instead it's just a bit average. I think it'll find quite a few buyers that in reality need a small hatchback but want the adventurous off-road image. Smart re-use of some Stellantis parts as well.
Marek my favourite reviewer, honest to the core. I’ve been waiting for this one especially because it’s from your home country but what I can gather the TCross may be a better buy. The 4 wheel drive version of the Avenger coming later may tip it over the edge and beat the T Cross.
I've seen those reports by Autoexpress, but I'm not sure they have the powertrain to apply here due to packaging. Whether BEV or PHEV the AWD would take up a lot of space.
I really hate it that so many of these driver 'assistance' features are default on at every start. It's predictably due to more legistlation from the EU.
@@MarekDrivesENG My Jaguar XJ lane assist proved effective at trying to steer me into a lorry on a motorway at 70mph, so I turned it off after that. Other than that their system is not overly strict and fairly easy to live with - but I don't enjoy surprises like that. Recently though I had to rent a couple of cars and they had 'default on' systems (in fact the Kia kept switching it back on during use which I couldn't understand). I do mostly town miles and occasionally a long journey to a datacentre at work, on the same road that had confused my 2018 Jaguar, the Kia became borderline uncontrollable wanting to move into the other lane then correcting itself. I wouldn't mind if on starting you get a warning on the screen(s) saying driver assists are disabled, but having such invasive features continually reset themselves is unwelcome. I did some research via online car manuals and it turns out it is due to markets which adopted "General Safety Regulations 2 (GSR2)" standards. Test driving a 2024 Discovery Sport yesterday, when leaving everything turned on it was difficult to find times where it wasn't beeping about something or other. I'm looking to buy one at the moment and was going to treat myself to a new car (first time ever), but just getting one a single year older would avoid this annoyance.
@@konsen6149 what is future?EV?Seems you never read history of cars..First cars was electric...What is future?Polution from battery industry?Kid go to school..
@@Tom-uk2ow guess your brain in malfunctions even a kindergarten kids is smarter than you Pls go back to kindergarten then look yourself into mirror . Early EVs in the early 1900 are basically short range with poor battery technology and not as good as ICE However, time had changed and today EVs are absolutely much better than any air pollutant ICE Pls come out from living inside the CAVE.
I love this channel, although a bit too critical at times. But I’d rather have a dose of the worst haemorrhoids case Europe has ever seen than watch this particular review of another electric car, especially a Fiat/jeep or whatever the hell it is.
Love the look of the new Jeep Avenger...but i would prefer a more rugged looking 4x4 version petrol version with wider more knobbly off roading style tyres and rugged looking wheels , with some off roading style roof lamps and roof bars etc to complete the look ...something akin to a mini Land Rover Defender...do that and I'd definitely buy one ...as it stands at the moment it looks too tame for my liking ...it needs to be toughened up a bit . I reckon most Europeans would love a version like that .
@MarekDrivesENG ...As it stands right now it will be used mainly for the city school runs and shopping trips...like I said a decent 4x4 version would be better.
I really like the exterior design. Very sharp and clean but given it's an American car, you just know they are going to slap a bunch of badges everywhere and try the bling things up. A shame. And why FWD? No AWD pocket rocket? That seems to be a missed opportunity. Volvo is offering that with the EX30. Always, a good review Marek. And I guessed your watch in the first 20secs. Beautiful.
This, with the exclusion of the branding is by no means an American car. It is fully Stellantis badged with all kind of parts from Fiat, Peugeot or Opel, fully engineered in Europe and not even sold in the US.
This is a perfect case scenario, when the whether's right, and you're driving vmax 110 km/h, there's no headwind, etc. Now increase the speed to 130 (top legal speed on restricted sections of the German motorway, and let's assume we're not going to take advantage of the unrestricted sections), and 140 for all of Poland. Also let's take into account right no in central Germany is between 0 and -2 degrees Celsius, and in Poland it's about -5. All of a sudden your 3h stops extend to 5-6h for Tesla. My point is that driving long distance ICE beats any EV. BCN-WAW in an ICE is probably 30 minutes of petrol station stops. We're not accounting for sleeping, driver changes, etc. Just your regular petrol station refill and piss stops. And no reasonable amount of kWh is going to solve this today.
@@MarekDrivesENG But why are we comparing ICE vs EV ? Shouldn't we compare small vs big battery ? I don't want to own two cars, and I want EV. There are clear advantages of owning an EV with bigger battery.
@@MarekDrivesENG That's subjective. Plenty of people prefer frequent rest stops on long journeys. Me included. There is virtually no difference in my travel times with ice and ev. Also don't forget thats pretty much all EV drivers were ICE drivers before that, we can draw direct comparisons between living with both cars
Broken record - I have owned two Mercedes , a Toyota, Audi coupe, two Alfas, and now a Volvo xc60 and a Jeep Renegade Limited. Out of the cars The Jeep is the only vehicle that had had NO repairs since I bought new in 2019 - % yrs on and 45,000 km on the clock. And the most satisfying car out of the lot( I had in the past).
The nameplate “Avenger” all I can think of is the Dodge Avenger very unreliable pair same engine as the Mitsubishi. I honestly, don’t know bring back the nameplate will drift away the customer.
"Nah, It's basically a dacia." No, this is a Stellantis Group car, not a Renault/Nissan Group or VW. It's not made or sold or designed in USA. Get your facts right. And you either like or not, full stop.
It's not a jeep except in name its not a Fiat at all apart from a couple of buttons and the steering wheel. PSA is the off putting thing, not that I will ever have a battery drill on wheels. 500x 2L diesel auto. Don't know how I'd replace it( there's nothing) that comes close.
This is the greatest example of globalisation. American brand, owned by a group based in the Netherlands, made in Poland, by Italian company, with batteries (probably) made in China. The only thing missing is a polar bear or a penguin 🤣
The best I can do in this area is a moose :)
I think I spotted a couple with DS4's night vision and included them in the review.
@@MarekDrivesENG Tell you what - if you fit a moose in this, alive and with all of its limbs still attached, I'm buying one . . and a moose! 🤣
@@extreme8808 🤣
that is suprise for me, 25-30 years ago I have seen only Polonez and Fiat 126P but now Poland has it all
Thanks for the review Marek. Nice to see new products coming out of that FIAT factory to keep the doors open.
I feel that the Avenger could have been abysmal, but instead it's just a bit average. I think it'll find quite a few buyers that in reality need a small hatchback but want the adventurous off-road image. Smart re-use of some Stellantis parts as well.
When are we getting the new Dacia Duster model? Seems like it could really compete with the sub compact category especially in price.
There was only a static launch event. I suppose that means the car will be here for reviewing some time mid-2024.
you sound like a little hater....
Not big enough for a full-size hater?
Marek my favourite reviewer, honest to the core. I’ve been waiting for this one especially because it’s from your home country but what I can gather the TCross may be a better buy. The 4 wheel drive version of the Avenger coming later may tip it over the edge and beat the T Cross.
I've seen those reports by Autoexpress, but I'm not sure they have the powertrain to apply here due to packaging. Whether BEV or PHEV the AWD would take up a lot of space.
💯I watch his reviews in both Polish and English
I really hate it that so many of these driver 'assistance' features are default on at every start. It's predictably due to more legistlation from the EU.
Yes. That is the case. But the goal is to have less people die in road accidents, and apparently these electronic nannies prove effective.
@@MarekDrivesENG My Jaguar XJ lane assist proved effective at trying to steer me into a lorry on a motorway at 70mph, so I turned it off after that. Other than that their system is not overly strict and fairly easy to live with - but I don't enjoy surprises like that.
Recently though I had to rent a couple of cars and they had 'default on' systems (in fact the Kia kept switching it back on during use which I couldn't understand). I do mostly town miles and occasionally a long journey to a datacentre at work, on the same road that had confused my 2018 Jaguar, the Kia became borderline uncontrollable wanting to move into the other lane then correcting itself. I wouldn't mind if on starting you get a warning on the screen(s) saying driver assists are disabled, but having such invasive features continually reset themselves is unwelcome. I did some research via online car manuals and it turns out it is due to markets which adopted "General Safety Regulations 2 (GSR2)" standards.
Test driving a 2024 Discovery Sport yesterday, when leaving everything turned on it was difficult to find times where it wasn't beeping about something or other. I'm looking to buy one at the moment and was going to treat myself to a new car (first time ever), but just getting one a single year older would avoid this annoyance.
Omega Seamaster, right? Spot on Marek, spot on...
It's a really nice car😊
Tyc-tyc-tyc😂
3:59 😂 Safety first - agreed.
I made an oath, I'll never leave internal combustion engines, I'm 55 yo.
Why?
@@artokiiskinen1058why not is better question..
Mind just short circuit cannot move with the Future wave which is EVs
ICE suddenly becomes stone age Vis Vis dinosaur Era.
@@konsen6149 what is future?EV?Seems you never read history of cars..First cars was electric...What is future?Polution from battery industry?Kid go to school..
@@Tom-uk2ow guess your brain in malfunctions even a kindergarten kids is smarter than you
Pls go back to kindergarten then look yourself into mirror .
Early EVs in the early 1900 are basically short range with poor battery technology and not as good as ICE
However, time had changed and today EVs are absolutely much better than any air pollutant ICE
Pls come out from living inside the CAVE.
Too bad Stellantis is not bringing it here ! A mistake in our opinion! Maybe if there was an awd version ?
Thats a nice looking jeep avenger, love the colour but i would get a petrol one 👌👍🏴
I love this channel, although a bit too critical at times. But I’d rather have a dose of the worst haemorrhoids case Europe has ever seen than watch this particular review of another electric car, especially a Fiat/jeep or whatever the hell it is.
Love the look of the new Jeep Avenger...but i would prefer a more rugged looking 4x4 version petrol version with wider more knobbly off roading style tyres and rugged looking wheels , with some off roading style roof lamps and roof bars etc to complete the look ...something akin to a mini Land Rover Defender...do that and I'd definitely buy one ...as it stands at the moment it looks too tame for my liking ...it needs to be toughened up a bit .
I reckon most Europeans would love a version like that .
I have no idea who's this car for. It's too expensive, doesn't do Jeep things, etc.
@MarekDrivesENG ...As it stands right now it will be used mainly for the city school runs and shopping trips...like I said a decent 4x4 version would be better.
Nice to see , nice to forget. I need an old style VW Beetle running on XXX batteries and without scrotum massage facilities.
I still not get the point, if you want a small city EV car, why don’t just buy Dacia Spring or Citroen Ami, not a car for 40000 €.
Some people with an eye for style will go for something stylish. If you are a nerd - anything will do.
8:20 YIKES. Someone sleeping on the sofa for awhile 😂
The Jeep avenger e summit edition as a single day registration costs around € 36.000 here in Germany. February 2024.
I see they started discounting them already. Good.
20k here on the Balkans for the 1.2 100ps
I really like the exterior design. Very sharp and clean but given it's an American car, you just know they are going to slap a bunch of badges everywhere and try the bling things up. A shame. And why FWD? No AWD pocket rocket? That seems to be a missed opportunity. Volvo is offering that with the EX30.
Always, a good review Marek. And I guessed your watch in the first 20secs. Beautiful.
This, with the exclusion of the branding is by no means an American car. It is fully Stellantis badged with all kind of parts from Fiat, Peugeot or Opel, fully engineered in Europe and not even sold in the US.
This is way less annoying than the Volvo.
I didn't get the large vs small battery narrative. According to ABRP, Warsaw to Barcelona takes ~3h charging on Tesla Model S and ~9h on Jeep Avenger.
This is a perfect case scenario, when the whether's right, and you're driving vmax 110 km/h, there's no headwind, etc. Now increase the speed to 130 (top legal speed on restricted sections of the German motorway, and let's assume we're not going to take advantage of the unrestricted sections), and 140 for all of Poland. Also let's take into account right no in central Germany is between 0 and -2 degrees Celsius, and in Poland it's about -5. All of a sudden your 3h stops extend to 5-6h for Tesla.
My point is that driving long distance ICE beats any EV. BCN-WAW in an ICE is probably 30 minutes of petrol station stops.
We're not accounting for sleeping, driver changes, etc. Just your regular petrol station refill and piss stops. And no reasonable amount of kWh is going to solve this today.
@@MarekDrivesENG But why are we comparing ICE vs EV ? Shouldn't we compare small vs big battery ? I don't want to own two cars, and I want EV. There are clear advantages of owning an EV with bigger battery.
Big battery is not ideal for the city, and still sucks long distance.
@@MarekDrivesENG That's subjective. Plenty of people prefer frequent rest stops on long journeys. Me included. There is virtually no difference in my travel times with ice and ev. Also don't forget thats pretty much all EV drivers were ICE drivers before that, we can draw direct comparisons between living with both cars
Okay but warsaw to barcelona is an extremely, extreeeemely niche scenario.
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Those indicators are horrendous 😂. Shame because the rest of the looks really good.
Dacia over this. Jeeps reliability is not what you want. Ever over rebadged Renault.
Well I mean, it’s basically a Peugeot.
Broken record - I have owned two Mercedes , a Toyota, Audi coupe, two Alfas, and now a Volvo xc60 and a Jeep Renegade Limited. Out of the cars The Jeep is the only vehicle that had had NO repairs since I bought new in 2019 - % yrs on and 45,000 km on the clock. And the most satisfying car out of the lot( I had in the past).
The nameplate “Avenger” all I can think of is the Dodge Avenger very unreliable pair same engine as the Mitsubishi. I honestly, don’t know bring back the nameplate will drift away the customer.
⚫️IIIIII⚫️
want this car.
Hilman Avenger
I feel likes it's a bit worse than most of us expected. Just a bit tho...
I expected it to be much worse :)
You are good. The car is pointless.
It looks like a more modern Duster 2.
It will pass for a T-Cross?! Nah, It's basically a dacia. Otherwise a good & informative review.
"Nah, It's basically a dacia." No, this is a Stellantis Group car, not a Renault/Nissan Group or VW. It's not made or sold or designed in USA. Get your facts right. And you either like or not, full stop.
This car has the rear legroom only capable of transporting really thin children. Even then they will suffer.
It's not a jeep except in name its not a Fiat at all apart from a couple of buttons and the steering wheel. PSA is the off putting thing, not that I will ever have a battery drill on wheels. 500x 2L diesel auto. Don't know how I'd replace it( there's nothing) that comes close.