10 Years Later | Geforce GTX 980
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Testing the Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 4GB graphics card in 12 popular and demanding games in 2024, using an average gaming PC.
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Maxwell 2.0 is currently the oldest architecture Nvidia still supports, meaning that the GTX 900 series still runs on the latest drivers, and so is still mostly compatible with modern games. However, after 10 years, even the once high-end GTX 980 doesn’t look as appealing as it once did. Is it best left to playing games closer to its own age, or can it still give a premium experience in 2024?
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00:00 GTX 980 vs. 2024
00:28 The Story of the GTX 980 4GB
02:44 Test System
02:56 Gaming Benchmarks
03:00 Ghost of Tsushima
03:52 Horizon: Forbidden West
04:25 Hellblade 2: Senua’s Saga
05:10 Alan Wake II
06:12 Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
07:02 Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
07:42 Resident Evil 4 Remake
08:42 The Last of Us Part 1
09:00 Forza Horizon 5
09:50 Starfield
10:28 Cyberpunk 2077
11:08 Call of Duty: Warzone
11:40 Conclusion
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I bought a 980 ti in 2016 and used it until the beginning of 2024, fsr is what made it possible it served me well.
Me to bought it for a huge discount when the 1080 and 1070 launched was 100euro cheaper than the same 1070. And was super lucky it oc'd like crazy 1550mhz without a single increase in voltages just my memory is not so great 7750mhz is the max and it's Samsung never knew what the problem is but everyone else could hit 8000 minimum. My friend has a 1070ti and in firestrick my card beats his hid card is stock but still take a win when I can
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FSR is horrible, I have yet to find an implementation that looks good
Now try lossless scaling
My 980ti caught on fire a few years ago while playing RDR2 at 1440p lol. It was partially my fault for pushing the overclocking a bit too far.
@3:38 That wasn't an issue how else is he supposed to become the GHOST of Tsushima
0:03 Maxwell 1(used in the 750 Ti for exemple) is still supported as well.
As a 750 TI owner I can confirm that driver support for a technically 700 series card is baffling. Nvidia actually does a decent job with driver support it seems.
@@Swarailiaball it probably also helps that Maxwell and Pascal are fairly similar designs. It is weird that AMD dropped support for GCN3 cards so quick when the architecture is fairly similar to Polaris.
Isn't the 750ti a Kepler card?
I don't know why but flashing glitch seems like a path tracing without denoising LOL
Which is what ray tracing looks like in a renderer without as you said denoising.
Does look a bit like it, yes.
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Just a heads up Iceberg, the latest Nvidia driver does break The Last of Us for all Geforce cards, including RTX. It gives a vram error at the title screen and shader compilation stalls out. Rolling back to 552.44 should fix the issue for you. It's basically what everyone has had to do to play the game the past few weeks.
Ah! Didn't know that. Thanks!
I haven't had that issue with TLOU
@@mitsuhh You may have somehow gotten lucky then. The issue started with version 555.85. It is a widely known problem. It caught me off guard also when I recently tested the game on my FX setup for my other channel, but did not take long to find out the problem because the Steam community page was blowing up with post about it. Google "last of us broken on geforce memory error", and you should have no problem pulling up multiple Reddit topics concerning the matter.
@@ConfusionDistortion maybe because i have 16gb vram
Damn Nvidia's been slacking with drivers
10 year old high end beaten by current onboard graphics, for some reason this makes me happy, I guess there is hope for the future yet.
not really a flex beating a 10 year old gpu unless ur name is intel
@@smoothkebab it is actually pretty impressive. 2016 integrated Intel graphics like HD 505 can't beat 2006 GPUs like 8800 GTX in performance. Hell, it can't even beat GT 220 or its mobile equivalent GT 330M.
@@elu9780 5775C from 2015: Hold my graphics.
@@elu9780 maybe amd ones could
@@damasterpiece08 uh, 2016 amd didnt even make apus or integrated graphics
The RE engine capcom uses is actually one of the best game engines currently, it runs on almost a decade old hardware without hiccups and also looks good on more modern and powerful hardware
The only exception to that is dragons dogma 2 i suppose
@@aqilardi5266 I don't think it's on RE engine, lemme check and confirm
Edit: yeah it's based on RE engine, I assumed it was some variant of UE5 but I was wrong. Idk what they did with DD2 but RE4R, RE3R, RE2R, RE7, RE8, DMC5, MH:rise all use the same engine and all look phenomenal and run like a charm as well but DD2 somehow runs like a disaster
@@shrishpotdar343 DD2 runs horrible because it has a lot of NPCs and terrible culling, also has a lot of useless CPU calls which make the game CPU limited, also RE engine is very far from good-looking, it shows very much in it lighting being flat, you can even see how much shadows the game misses with path tracer reference for the games, but yes it does scale well to older hardware however not for long, since it seems like capcom is planning on updating it
@@unclexbox85 probably, I'm not a huge gamer and I just play the RE and DMC titles more, I've not really played a lot of games so my sight is not wide enough.
But I still think for an engine from 2016 it's holding up well enough, and maybe capcom does need an upgrade in their engine
@@shrishpotdar343 How can you say that you played only RE engine titles and then go and say well hey it looks good, what do you compare it to lol, MT framework?
I sold my GTX 1070 and 2080 Super so my old GTX 980 is my backup GPU. This video was unexpected but interesting to see.
Quadro M4000 8GB with modified BIOS (+41% OC) still going strong :D
What perf equivalent you getting compared to a more modern gpu for example? 👀
@@DuckyUmbra I think there are no modern equivalents, its basically a GTX 970 with more VRAM.
@@samserious1337 970perf with mod and oc or without?
@@maho8204 With mod. Its the same chip but downclocked from factory since its a single slot GPU (770MHz). With OC ~ 1100 MHz is the max. the cooler is able to handle in a well ventilated case under load (~80°C).
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I used to wish I had this card when I was a broke high schooler.
Me too. PCI Express wasn't invented when I was in high school so it would have been useless to me, but I could have sold it to Matrox as some futuristic high tech stuff, and they could have reverse engineered it to revolutionise the 3D industry before the Geforce GTX series even existed!
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AGP was the standard when i started gaming on PCs. I think.
I was lucky enough to see the rise of 3dfx. Everything changed. Now, that was an upgrade in visuals.
Quake, Half Life, Gunman Chronicles, Realms of the Haunting, Blade Runner, Broken Sword.
Gaming was so much better back then.
Yeah when I was in highschool AGP was the standard though PCI Express did come to fruition my junior or senior year. My high school Athlon 64 budget build actually lasted me to 2014 (granted I couldn't play them latest games).
I used to lust after the GTX 480... Flip, I'm old.
Dawg out here dropping BOMB after Bomb video!
I got this bad boy sitting on a shelf, a MOSFET blew up after playing CS2, but with a heatsink like that, it’s such a showpiece
I'll take a shot soldering a new mosfet on free of charge if you want?
Damn, it's really been 10 years...
Almost. The GTX 980 came out near the end of September 2014.
My back up system is running a Poseidon 980 ti and I was amazed at how well it still does.
Nice video. Love it!
Your voice and presentation reminds me of the old TV channel Ginx Gaming. I love your content!
Interesting info, thanks for sharing
Before selling my previous PC in preparation for a new build I "upgraded" the GTX 960 2GB that came with the system for a GTX 980 4GB. It was pretty damn decent, but I ran into a bottleneck with the CPU (i7-6700) and needed to downclock it a smidge and mitigate graphics settings expectations. It ran Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice maxxed out and Warframe, but I never ventured into more modern stuff.
Forbidden West doesn't use upsampling at all on PS4, it uses VRS and a dynamic res usually being native 1080p, with some dips to 900p. The PS4 Pro version uses Checkerboarding if that's what you're referring to, which isn't upsampling, it's interlacing.
Watch the DF video on it
Something is not right. RandomGaminginHD did recent benchs on a 970 and he managed to play Last of Us pretty well. Forza is also running higher performance and Cyberpunk runs 60, though FSR quality is used.
The other settings are similar, which is strange. Didn't use the latest drivers?
Someone just informed me that the latest drivers break Geforce cards in TLOU. I should have rolled back to the previous ones.
Hard to believe it’s been so long. I still remember envying my friend who got a GTX 970. I had a Radeon 270X. Then I got a 1070 and smoked him and felt good until he got a 2070 super. Come to think of it I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a 80 tier card new. I own a 980ti and have owned a 1080 but knew I’ve never bought more than a 70 tier card.
I was *just* checking out RandomGamingInHD's GTX 980 video when I saw this after searching your channel.
I am still rocking with 980 ti
Me too. 980 TI running on Windows 8 (not 8.1) with Jan 2024 official Nvidia drivers. Awesome performance.
I'm still running a gigabyte 980 ti extreme waterforce. It runs with a fx 8350 in a crosshair v formula z motherboard. Love this machine.
Ratchet and Clank is due to get the new FSR 3.1 frame generation thing added soon, so maybe a retest would be interesting on that game when it's added, just to see if it does anything for the 980 or see if even frame gen can't save it. 😆
I like FSR and it was fantastic on my 7600 for playing at 1440p, but frame gen feels terrible unless you're trying to get from say 120hz to 165. Anything under has bad latency for my taste.
@@nbain66 Are you mixing FSR 3 frame gen with AFMF?
10:28 the requirements were updated because the Phantom Liberty dlc is more intensive
This was the card I dreamed of when I was a kid. Now I have a gpu way better, but I still think of the 980 as a high end gpu.
The flashing glitch also happens to me in Cyberpunk when I go with RT + a very low FSR resolution. It usually shows at the bottom of my screen as opposed to the left side, as in your video. When I bump FSR up, it goes away.
I love this video came up while I was messing with my Zotac GTX-980-Ti...Good to listen to. This gets pretty hot, and I compared it to a 5500XT 8GB, and it's still a bit faster, but the power and heat different may not be worth it. Also had a RX-590 on hand, and it's comparable to the 980-Ti from the games I played. I have 2x GTX-970, and I really don't bother with those...from this video it looks like the GTX-980 is on the edge of usable today...my guess still watching.
Hellblade 2 awful results on 980 is mainly due to Nanite, nanite if anything is basically Ue5 mesh shaders and it's software fallback is horrible, i still don't understand what even is the point of Ue5 software support for Lumen and Nanite since most cards that would be able to run it at stable Framerate already have hardware support for it
Wow I've never been this early!
man its already 10 years?
I remember when i was a boy, GTA5 on pc was just released, it was my dream card.
Hey Iceberg I was just looking into tesla m40 cards similar to GTX980 but with more vrams, it's also a relatively fun and cheap card to play with
Paired this card with my FX 8350 and plays games great.
while I get your points about the card being a bit old, I recently just picked one up (replacing an aging 660!!!) and it is doing wonders! I am not the biggest gamer even though I play some titles (and just as you said, a handful of the recent AAA games just don't appeal to me), however for my purposes it does well, better than the 660 did.
I love the design of these ASUS Strix line of 2010s
My first dedicated desktop graphics card
I agree, thighs are optional 😁
I haven't enjoyed a new release since Witcher 3, but i still very much enjoyed the video, and I'll be sticking with my Rx590.
I’ve got a 940m in my laptop, it still does launch games. Cool to see what it’s “older brother” can still do
I had an evga 980Ti Hydrocopper which served me well all the way until 2019. It's definitely long in tooth now, but they're so versatile because of the WinXP drivers available. It will slay anything from that era and probably just about all Win7 titles as well. I picked up an MSI 980 Ti Golden Edition just for my XP rig. Solid copper heatsink FTW!
Maxwell and Pascal were too good and Nvidia regrets that
3.5/4
still rocking a GTX 980 in my system right now, got it for "free" from a friend who found a like £1000+ 2014 gaming pc at the dump lol, its been a decent experience, running it overclocked a bit, but im getting cpu bottlenecked by my trashy 9th gen i5 😭
ad for laser eye surgery was a good one :D
5:02 - You should've said "Less of a Saga, and more like a Hell"
I just picked up a mining card p104 with 8GB ram and paired it with hd5450 with mod driver 550.xx ver installed. Not bad for a GPU worth 26$ with 1070 performance. Plus it gets impressive performance with 20+ t/s with llama 3 8b 6q models, which is beyond my expectation. The two downsides I could see are the choppy video performance even when playing yt videos with hd5450 since the p104 does not have video output but has to rely on the ancient hd5450 and no video encoder and decoder means you cannot compress videos with it.
I still use one... mainly because I'm not gaming much these days... mainly because my PC needs an upgrade. I'll be upgrading later this year or early next year after I've finished saving.
I wanted a 980 back in the day! Bought a 390x instead!
It's just mad, man. "The GTX 980 could potentially be used to play older, lighter-weight games."
What? Why have we permitted such inefficiency to take hold?
this girls still running my home theater rig (which I barely use)
would be nice to see bar graphs, ie it being compared to other gpus u tested. But anyway, maxwell was a beast, think it is still a tiny bit faster than polaris 10? I remember when polaris 10 ie rx 480 was launched, it was so hard to get it for cheap, as it was at 300€ here in sweden for a long time. And the older hawaii based amd gpus like 290/x, 390/x and maxwell cards like 970/980 were at max 220€ so it was stupid to get the rx 480.
please do a video on lossless scaling I know software stuff isn't what u usually do but I think it's fairly interesting
We in dere!
I have a 980ti fe in my rig right now and it's totally usable. Been playing Baldurs gate 3 1440p high at 45 fps. I got it for about 90$. Even hellblade 2, 1080p high with fsr3 quality. More than playable with a game like that.
Same here! At 1080p the 980ti still has plenty of legs left. With graphics I feel anything better than a mid-late 2010s title like AC Origns/Witcher 3 doesn't really add much to the overall experience; the level of fidelity the 980ti can provide (older games at max or new games on med) is plenty. Added to that I find I'm only drawn to new games based off the gameplay rather than those with the highest GPU requirements / amazing graphics. So long as I can run it, which I can with a 980ti, I'm content!😀
I had this till late last year from new in 2015 for £455. Beast of a card but I switched it out in my i7-4790K rig for a 3060ti (subsequently switched again to a 1660 super as I used the 3060TI in my sons new pc). It still ran BFV on >60 fps at 1080p on a mix of high/ultra. Sold it on for £50 after repasting it.
Man, I remember 10 years ago when I was 12, everyone in my school was talking about this GPU and how they wanted it so bad
Good, simple times
Still rocking my gtx 970 for jrpgs (like Tales of Arise, which runs at 60 fps maxed out at 1440p) and for less demanding indie games! It works wonders if you step outside the realm of triple A releases!
900 series is on life support at this point 😔
980 still beast
picked one up during gpupocalypse that came with no shroud and was tagged like it was from a UNI or business. has an amd CPU fan on it, did the job in kids first build until prices came back down. Now it powers my photoshop machine in work.
The thing with Hellblade II is that it *really* doesn't like it when you go over the VRAM limit, since makes system RAM calls really aggressively. It can easily go from running at 60 FPS to 10 FPS between scenes, depending on what textures are loaded in. So the 720p FSR UP comparison is actually pretty generous for the card, it would run at like 2 FPS at 1080p.
it was a nightmare playing some games with a GTX 1650 from 2019 to 2023 upgrade to a RTX 3060 12GB card was so nice going to games like cyberpunk to dying light 2 a lot of my games looked bad with the GTX 1650 my last upgrade was in late 2023 a really good friend got a new pc to build in it has a ryzen 5800x with a RX 6800 non xt upgrade out of the RTX 3060 12GB & ryzen 2700x with a A320M-K MB to anyone still on a GTX 980 i some what know your pain hope you can upgrade soon
Absolutely should try overclocking it. The 900 series tended to gain a lot from a good OC. Also, check out the 980 ti if possible.
I actually have a friend who still uses a GTX 970 at this point, because he never upgraded. He sometimes still wants to upgrade but can't be asked to spend the money
Yesssss, finally, another revisit of the 980. I bought one in 2023 and it has crushed every dx11 game I play, including escape from tarkov and Rust.
*Love the GTX 900 Series*
i've been using a gtx 960 4gb by evga since Jan 2021 for my gaming needs.
seven year 980 users, other than new gen. games It's still solid
It's interesting how this compares to the R9 390 from last week
Ahh, the 900 series. I remember seeing it launch back in Sept 2014. This and the RTX 2000 series are the only ones I skipped. Well sorta. My EVGA GTX 590 died after Pascal launched, and EVGA replaced my GTX 590 with a GTX 970.
I started shopping for a new card back in early 2016 but I decided to wait for Pascal. The price/performance ratio of the GTX 980 put it in an awkward position against the 980ti and 970.
i have gtx 1060 6gb that have same design as this card, is it just reused cooler? or reused gtx 980 to gtx 1060 with more memory? afaik this gtx 1060 6gb only in asia
I just found a 980 founders with & water block & original cooler for 65€
Timing couldn't be more perfect.
Remove the ampersand before "water block" my good sir.
Recently got this exact gpu about a month ago, found it on ebay for only $40 from canada!
I finished alan wake 2 on gtx1080 with vulkan mod but yeah, performance was barely acceptable - mostly 30-40fps with everything on low except medium textures and fsr on quality . But there were some locations with 10-15fps fortunately there were the ones without enemies so i could finish the game . The game itself is masterpiece ;)
I still play a lot of games with my 965M laptop at 60fps. Not at super high settings, and some recent games I can't really run. But I have such a huge backlog that doesn't really matter.
gtx 900 series are awesome nvidia still support it for windows 11.
my old radeon r9 series driver already end 3 years ago
Not a 980, but Ti, served me well from brand new 8 years ago. She was custom watercooled, so she didnt see more than 65*C, but she did served me well, but with replacing 1080p monitor to 1440p it did show the age. Sold her two weeks ago and got 3080Ti which I also slapped EK waterblock and undervolted her, so in 7-8 years time will be waiting for "10 years later | GeForce RTX3080/Ti" video, so I can comment on my new 6080Ti or 7080Ti.
I'm looking forward to the anniversary build, first of all :)
I kept a Mac Pro 2010 running long past it's prime - and the secret sauce was the 980ti and either Windows or Linux.
That said, I play a different style of games than most - strategy, hardcore cRPGs, retro-games, oddball indie stuff...
As I am a tinkerer, I have a number of systems laying around - mostly cobbled eWaste or deals I couldn't pass up thrown into whatever jank case I have laying about...
The Titan Black, and - guilt by association - the original Titan - are beasts of GPUs for CPU heavy titles (which cRPGs are). However, the whole API and driver numbers are a sad, sad state of affairs for these games.
The Black actually can push some frames in Baldur's Gate III - but I don't have a map, at all, those layering effects just don't render. The 980 could do it, well in fact, but I sold that card... and I tend to game on my secondary system (I leave the other for my family, I like CRT gaming - so I have a dedicated system).
My point, I guess, is that obsolescence happens in weird ways. I don't AAA game, at least not much, and my main gaming rig is capped at 75hz (the real computer can hit 165hz, but I hate that screen for gaming, don't know why).
I have found that the RX5500 is sort of a sweet spot for me - with my disappointing sleeper build (Pentium G7400, 64GB DDR5 @ 4200, RX 5500 8GB). But I digress, but I have been nothing but impressed, at least in my sort of gaming, by the performance here (other than BG3, though... honestly...).
Thanks for championing this legend of a card, even if the TI has somehow aged much better (I was impressed, and it wasn't that long ago).
Brother it will be good if i paired with i5 3470 ? ❤
Enojy it !!! Btw gtx 1080 going at some decent 90$ on ebay
I got a GTX 980 for ~£40 last year and it's OK for older, less demanding games. I'd say if the price is right and you don't expect too much from it, go for it :)
Gotta wonder when driver support will be cut though, it's probably just around the corner since Kepler has been out of support for a while now.
zamn the 80 serise goes wild
Funny, I bought this exact card yesterday for 30 pound or 60 Aus as I live in Austraya. Using Nvidia NvClean to install minimal drivers and get rid of telemetry improves it a fair amount, it's not the best card these days but it is entertaining to run the old beast, think I'll run it in my personal rig for shiz n giggles for a bit
I had several strange glitches with ghost of tashima when benchmarking with a RX 480 using the newest drivers, not only did I have the disappearing body parts but parts of the game would be completely black and white with no textures drawn on the screen at all. I benchmarked on the 580 using the newest drivers and the game ran flawlessly at around 40 FPS. Has anyone else seen similar issues with the 400 series and GoT?
I remember running my 980 with a friends in sli to see how well we could get the witcher 3 to run at 4k when it was a new release lol. I upgraded to the 1080ti after that and tbh I should of framed it or something instead of selling it
I have two 980 ‘tis in box
@VoldoronGaming 980ti's don't have the legendary status the 1080ti has though. Still that's pretty cool to have them in full packaging
I had a 980 Ti til last year and it was great for my 1080p 60hz monitor. I only upgraded because I got a 165hz display. Granted I didn’t play the newest games because I always wait for sales but even games from 2021 or so were fine. The regular 980 is a lot slower though.
at 8:42 the reason Last of us part 1 doesnt launch is because of the driver 555.85, it causes the game to crash with the out of vram warning even when enough vram and system ram is present.
Still have a evga 980ti hybrid(the gold version) but it hasn't seen much use lately.. Idk how the pump is still alive and it makes me nervous lol.
I believe the 980 lifespan ended in 2022, probably even in 2021. still 7-8 years for that card was quite good.
One of these days I'm gonna see my 1660ti on here
The only ~100$ new card I suggest is the Arc A580. It's almost a spiritual successor to the rx480, driver problems and all (when the 480 came out)
Unfortunately, UK retailers have almost completely given up on Arc. The cheapest A580 right now is an Amazon import for £173, which is over US$200
@@IcebergTech that's so unfortunate, the gpu is damn good value for money over here, I have one in the NAS/Homelab mostly for its AV1. I was immensely suprised by it's ability to game at both 1080 and lightweight games in 1440 through a KVM
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@1:09 "tops out at 12 🤖 point 1 🤖"
which is better 980 or rx 480 8 gigs??
Review the Gtx 280/285, they had 512 bit memory buses? Give me dat old school big bus love
Have paired my gtx 980 ti with a ryzen 9 7950x, the GPU still have some life left in it
I would be interested to see how the GTX 980's ival, the R9 Fury, handles this benchmark suite because although its power use was atrocious, it had the same TDP as the R9 390 despite being a faster card. It was even faster than the GTX 980. It would be more of an apples to apples comparison with the GTX 980 because both cards have only 4GB of VRAM. Of course, the R9 Fury's 4GB of HBM is, to date, still some of the fastest VRAM ever put into a video card with that ridiculous 4096-bit VRAM bus. It would be pretty interesting to see which of those two top-echelon cards aged the best.
Back then, the top-4 cards were pretty close to one another and this was their order:
1.) GTX 980 Ti
2.) R9 Fury-X
3.) R9 Fury/Nano
4.) GTX 980
I'm not talking about the Nano or Fury-X which you've already tested years ago, I'm talking about the full-size, air-cooled R9 Fury.
I'm curious because I bought an R9 Fury back in 2017 during the first mining craze when the RX 580 (which was slower) cost about $800CAD. I paid less than half of that for the R9 Fury because its power draw made it useless for mining. I could try it myself because I still own it but you have a much better flair for this than I do.
still going strong in my son's rig plays most of his games OK tho I'm upgrading him to a rx6800 soon
Hell Blade is so pretty on here
Back then, i had GTX 760. I dreamed about the GTX980 but the GTX1080 was on the horizon so i waited 12 months and got the Pascal Card.
If you got the Ti, you could still be trucking along at 1080p today.
Fun fact, the 900 series have drivers from Windows XP and still delivering updates for w11.
that's actually a reason why I picked one up, as I dual-boot(ed) XP x64 and 11 on the SAME computer. and although I upgraded the XP install to Vista today, I will keep this GPU... honestly it does good.
Better then mine GTX 750 maybe even GTX 1050Ti... ;-)