The best soccer this player pool has ever produced was when Berhalter was not running the team for 6 months. When Hudson and BJ were in charge of player selection and tactics. By the way it took them one game to move Gio to the midfield something that Gregg refused to do for years. Completely unqualified
I was starting to believe again when Callahan stepped up. Reyna and the rest of the team looked so polished. Should've gave him a shot at coach if the alternative is GGG.
@@rmmvw and guess what? Both Weston and Gio played well farther up the pitch together. Now look at them both. Gio apparently playing the regista role that Gregg has always wished he could implement with Wil Trapp. And Weston looking completely lost. Why must Gregg overthink everything? He thinks he's inserting his genius but all he's doing is confusing his players
His resignation, he was given the job due to nepotism & was never a good coach to any previous team. Hammarby fired him because of his lack of offensive tactics. Columbus crew was so bad they almost sold their franchise after losing too much And he was given the NATIONAL TEAM as a gift?! Yeah no, get him out.
"Columbus crew was so bad they almost sold their franchise after losing too much" You have got to be kidding me. You really believe that? Way to announce to everyone that you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
A college football coach wouldn't make it 3 years at most** without a signature win yet we have allowed a coach with a country of 330 million people to "figure it out" for six years..
@@swagman8990 when 2026 is over and ggg is gone then maybe. Depends how ussf treats fans. Ticket pricing, censored press, anti-fan social media posts …
@@rodgermurphy5721 The winner of the Copa America would be regarded as probably a top 4 team in the world at minimum. So what you're saying is that you'll only admit you are wrong if Berhalter is such a good coach he can take a roster of players that barely qualifies on paper as like 20th in the world and win a major tournament. If Berhalter can do that, he's not just a good coach; he'd be the best coach in the world. Pretty high standard you are setting.
What did we do in the 10s except blow the 2014 WC with bad coaching, and then collapse as a program between 2015 and 2018. The last good win for the USMNT was like back in 2009.
The team in the early 10s is underrated by fans, but the team and JK were terrible from 2014 on. 4-0 to Costa Rica in a wc qualifier bad! (no red card caveat even)
@Steve-606 he had go rebuild a program that was lacking. No one wanted to play for the usa. He got dual nationals with teeth to play for the team he encouraged players to go to Europe. Without that we wouldn't have this new generation. You imagine an all mls team these days.
I want him gone, nothing personal. He should have never been given the extension. At the World Cup he had nothing to offer against Netherlands in tactics. He's an mls coach at best. To prove a point, an interim coach helped the US win a nations league cup.
For me it's easy. Get the team to play and generate results up to the talent level. I think I'm realistic about what that means. It means that we routinely have comfortable wins against most CONCACAF teams or examples from other regions like Bolivia. And that we get periodic, but not guaranteed wins and/or strong performances against better teams. As a practical example, since we're currently in Copa, it would be beating Panama with comfort in the next game, followed by at least one positive result in either of the following two games versus Uruguay or Colombia/Brazil. That could be a tie versus Uruguay and a close loss to Colombia/Brazil. Or a close loss to Uruguay and an upset win versus Colombia/Brazil. If we were to have any mix of suffering to beat Panama (or worse, lose or tie that game) plus getting beat with relative ease by Uruguay/Colombia/Brazil, then I'd still be of the opinion that he's not getting the best out of what he has available to him.
What do you think our talent level is? We are objectively overachieving our talent level. On paper based on the players we can call up we are about 20th in the world. Back in the last world cup cycle we were on paper about 28th in the world. Why do people think we have some sort of talent to make us a top 10 team in the world if we'd just put it together? We're a young team filled with players with struggling careers that have underperformed for their clubs and collectively lost market value. We've got no players anyone would rank in the top 100 in the world, at best one player that is in the top 25 in their position, no players who are the star on their team, almost no players who are the captain of a major team, and in terms of minutes earned for big 5 leagues of Europe we run in about 20th in the world. We've got no international class goalies and it's questionable now that Tim Ream has aged out whether we have any international quality center backs. So how in the world do you think the results aren't up to the talent level? For me right now comfortably beating everyone in CONCACAF and any team not in the top 25 would be fine for me. Maybe if the team gets a bit older, more experienced, and more mature (looking at you Weston!) then maybe we can start talking about upsets, but upsets by definition are against better teams.
Except we're not comfortably beating CONCACAF foes. Third in World Cup qualifying and only by goal differential. One road win at Honduras and that was it. Congrats he can win tournaments against CONCACAF on US soil versus inferior opposition. That's expected. When has he ever achieved the unexpected other than bad road losses to Trinidad and Tobago, for instance? Never. Every single usmnt manager since Bora in 1994 has pulled upsets off. Gregg is the only one who has never done it. Stop talking like upsets are impossible. Maybe under his leadership. Steve Sampson who many considered to be the worst national team coach since 1994 beat Argentina AND Brazil in competitions.
@@mikeb6458 JK never beat anyone in a real competition. He had us losing to Jamaica. Wins in friendlies are absolutely meaningless. The USMNT hasn't had a real upset since like 2009.
US fans are as delusional as England fans. And I say that as a US fan. We have had one team in the modern history advance further in the World Cup than we did in 2022. ONE. And that was by a grand total of one match. From 1963-81 we didn't qualify for enter the Gold Cup. We've now had our 2nd best ever run of form in the Gold Cup. In the 3 years of the nation's league we've won every time. Of the trophies / championships still being played today, Gregg Berhalter has won 40% (4 out of 10). If we win today he'd be one win away from tying the most wins the United States has ever had at the Copa and be tied for the second. So, let's see, he took over a national team that had lost to T&D and failed to qualify for the world cup. Had the fewest losses and most points in a group since 2010 and tied fewest losses EVER at a World Cup, has dominated Mexico and won 3 straight nations leagues, went Runners Up, Winner, Semi Finals with a B team in the Gold Cup, is on track to equal most wins ever at the Copa, and oh yeah, half of the trophies in the trophy case essentially have his initials on them. Just because you don't like the tactics or the fact that he's a prickly personality - who cares? There are plenty of things I dislike about Gregg, his stubbornness, his refusal to admit his system - but at the end of the day, like it or not, he has achieved more with an incredibly young roster, a roster you could argue has not even collectively or individually really entered its prime - then we ever had in the past. And oh, yeah, the VERY best player on the team, the one player who has more impact than anyone else and who if we got hurt would suck all the donkey a** in the world IMO because its not even close in levels of importance - is 198% behind him. Because here's the other thing to keep in mind. There is NO guarantee, NONE, that the next manager actually does better. Its always easy to say he'd be better or he'd be better or he'd be better. How many teams, in the history of sports have fired a coach or manager, and then that team has fallen apart because no one appreciated what they did or what they had? Milwaukee Brewers lost their manager to the Chicago Cubs, after not wanting to really met his demands so he left and they let him. how's that going. Brewers are in 1st place, Cubs are in last place. Detroit Lions fired Jim Caldwell despite making playoffs on a few occasions and sucked worse than they did with him until very recently. Leeds lets go of Bielsa - um, how's that working out? Bayern - we have issues Nagelsman - well, how'd that go? 3rd place and trophyless? Dallas Cowboys famously ran off Jimmy Johnson. Point is no matter how "talented" a team or squad might be, if you've spent any time at all around competitive sports, you'd know that there is no guarantee that the next manager or coach takes you to next level or even replicates what the previous one achieved. Because its not just the X's and O's that gets changed. Its the entirety of the dynamic . And from the outside looking in its easy to say "oh, well that's a good thing." But there's no way of being able to know that ahead of time. There are very real reasons Gregg probably deserves to not be in charge. And I am aware of that. But at the same time, this idea that he's holding us back or something... its an insane amount of arrogance, lack of understanding who we really are as a national team or even who our players are - are we having anyone being considered as one of the top 15-20 players in the world? Starting at Bayern, Man City, Barca, Madrid, Arsenal? No? Most of them are bench players or players on mid-tier or lower teams. And that's not a knock. But this is not England. We're not Argentina, Brazil. Hell, how many of our players realistically start for Columbia? For Brazil? Urugay? CP doesn't start for Brazil. Not with their wingers. If your best players are not better than our countries best players, its insane to be "fire the coach! fire the coach!" Understandably that is how sports work. Been involved in them long enough to know that. But as the saying goes its not the X's and the O's, its the Jimmy's and Joe's. And while maybe we're better than we have been in a long time in that regard, we're light years behind the elite nations. Love Matt Turner. Love Ream. Big fan of a fit Weston McKennie and Adams. But if we picked a starting 11 from the Copa America - or even a best 22 - how many US national team members are there? Two? Maybe three max?
LOL. We're objectively overachieving relative to our talent level, and that's not even getting into the fact that we are only at this talent level because Berhalter is the best recruiter the team has ever had.
@@marktheshark7588 In what way? Alaba is the only World class player Austria has. Everyone else is mediocre or decent( Laimer and Sabitzer are amazing but not world class). The U.S. is easily at their level.
@@cesarjusto14 "They" ain't showing up because most people don't have $300 a ticket to spend in this economy no matter who the coach is. Changing the coach ain't going to change that.
I was like the only guy on Twitter telling everyone that Berhalter was coming back regardless of Reyna Gate. They laughed at me, they mocked me, and they told me I was full of it. Ale Moreno here always tells it like it is and he doesn't sugarcoat anything so maybe him saying it will give more credibility to what I've been trying to get people to understand.
If he starts playing GIO as a 10 and shows he is willing to adapt and try a 4-2-3-1 then I would it is a sign he is willing to learn and I would say there is a small amount of hope for him.
Austria’s team other than Sabitzer doesn’t really have some amazing squad, but they have a quality coach who understands how to play the game and shows how coaching quality makes a massive difference
I mean, Sabitzer is like the fifth best player on the team but OK. Laimer? Schlager? Alaba? Even Danso. Look at the teams those guys play for. How many US players do you think would start on that Austrian team? Maybe two? US players earned about 36k minutes in the big 5 leagues last year, and Austrian players earned like 55k. I think that makes a pretty massive difference as well. Also, you are literally talking about the inventor of gegenpressing, and a guy that commands about three times the salary of Berhalter. No way is a guy like that going to step down to coach a minor program like the USMNT. You want to replace Gregg with someone, lets talk about people with comparable salaries who'd actually take the job after the US fires a coach with the best record in its history.
If Berhalter handles Uruguay and Colombia handily I would be a believer. This means against Uruguay, win, don't fall for their defensive trap and counter and make tactical adjustments with timely subs in the 2nd half to win. Same for a Colombia game. Versus Brazil draw or win, a repeat of the friendly, with a smooth and continual method to string attacks all throughout the game (copy the defensive performance as in the friendly). Has Berhalter ever shown this? No. The only massive wins or draws he's had has been played against teams that did not adjust to the USMNT standard 4-3-3 so Berhalter had to make little or no adjustments to his default tactic (think Mexico and England) while they themself played sub optimal tactics. If a team is set up to beat us, Berhalter gets trumped every time.
Columbia is going to be hard to beat. They really have to be with Argentina favorites to win the tournament. On a good day we can beat Uruguay, but it's going to require 100% focus from this group of young players.
I think you are wrong you fire the coach. T he world cup is still years away so the new coach can implement a new plan if he has too. Are you gonna waste prime years of some of your best talent because you wanna hold on to a bad manager.
They need to go decently far in the current COPA. Then they need to win the Gold Cup or at least come close. Then they need to get out of the group stage in the '26 WC......and possibly one more win. Only then will I change my opinion on Berhalter.
Starting XI. Turner. Robinson, Ream, Richards, Weah. Adams, Cardoso, McKinnie, Reyna. Pulisic, Balogun. This would provide service from the back, with a secure double pivot in Cardoso and Adams. McKinnie and Reyna could provide both support and when free creativity and attack. Pulisic would be freer and Balogun will have service. 0 excuses. Better to try this against Panama than Uruguay, but doubt we'll see such Panache from Berhalter. 👌
I honestly think some of the Berhater haters will be disappointed if we make the semis or better. At worst we will make the quarterfinals which probably means he's gonna stick around for world cup like it or not
It's Bob Bradley all over again. I've heard this sort of dysfunctional and clueless whining from the "fans" before. They fired Bradley and the team hasn't recovered. It's been like 2009 since we really had something special to cheer for. We're only just now getting back to the level of talent we had under Bradley. And meanwhile the usual suspects would cheer if we brought another German clown in and defend the last one to this day.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say, what if the US does upset several teams, and plays really well, semifinal/final? How many fans who say "I hate Berhalter" would instantly say, "I always knew Berhalter was the guy" LOL.. Alright, I had a little too much fun there. I dont think anything short of a World Cup title would stop people from hating Berhalter. And even THEN, there'll be people who hate on him, or say, "Well, he didnt matter, it was all his players doing". I definitely don't think this dude can win over the fans no matter WHAT he does, just my opinion
If he wins games they will say it was luck or they will say that it was despite Berhalter rather than because of him. And they'll actually complain. If we were to make a deep run at Copa America, they'd actually complain about it and whine about it and be unhappy. They've literally done this sort thing before.
He could win Copa America, and I still think he should be fired. He’s just not good enough. Even if he wins this competition, which is highly unlikely… I’d rather another coach take the reins to position them best for a good showing at the World Cup.
@@rodgermurphy5721 I agree. If that happens, he should be applauded. And then promptly replaced. LOL Really though, if he does that and he is getting the most out of the players... great! there just haven't been signs that he can do that
Pep said he's achieved everything except coach a national team. If GGG really cares about us, he'll step down so Pep can coach the USMNT next year when his contract runs up with City.
We got a coach with no ideas. He doesn't know how to adjust. No tactical knowledge. He is a coach who wants to joystick the game. He is not just good enough.
Hey. I'll use the words Moreno used, and say whether you like it or not American sports fans have plenty of options. If you want them to be soccer fans you'll have to win big games against competition not named Mexico. You won't do that with Berhalter. 2026 will be a wasted opportunity due to nepotism. What a shame.
Berhalter has a college coach's mentality: he wants to be the center of attention so he makes the team about his "system" instead of about the players. He will never get the best out of the player pool because he will never allow the players to act with autonomy or creativity. He's one of those egomaniacs who would rather lose than let someone else get credit for a win. There is no hope of rehabilitating him before 2026.
Ya guys, change your minds like too much. First is needed a new coach and now we don't. Might as well tell me the federation is telling you to defend Greg.
LOL. So you think it's reasonable with the talent we have to aspire to be one of the 4 best teams in the world? And if he can't coach us to a finish that indicates we are a top 4 team in the world, you won't support him? My friend, if Berhalter can take this team to a top 4 finish in the world, then he's objectively the best coach in the world.
@@lennyjenkins9931 Morocco on paper has better players than the USMNT earning more minutes in Europe than the USMNT and it got lucky. I'm not saying that the US men can't do it, but I am saying that you shouldn't expect it as a reasonable result.
@@celebrim1 Morocco made it to fourth place in 2022's World Cup. They were definitely not the fourth best team in the world. Berhalter is trash, and they should fire him immediately. Fire him ASAP, even in the middle of the Copa
This ^^^. So many "fans" making the culture just seem utterly undesirable to other sports fans. I swear, we've gotten worse than the English fans. The level of delusion, entitlement, and whining drives me bonkers sometime. "We'd be winning a world cup with this sort of talent if it wasn't for this coach! I bet there isn't any other nation that can field 11 players that play in the big 5 leagues of Europe. Sure... ours are backups, with shaky careers, but his is the best US team ever. It's not like the USA ever had anyone playing in Europe before."
He'd have to leave the team. There will always be a shadow hanging over Callahan's shoulder, and if he loses an important match for whatever reason, the Ghost of Gregg's Amateur Selections & Tactics will always color public opinion.
Landon Donovan was the best American player and the 2002 team USA will never be topped until you have a great player like Landon Donovan who believes in USA soccer and doesn't need to play in Europe to believe he can compete. Jeurgan Klinsman was the lamest example of a head coach. He placed nothing but doubt in the minds of all player and fans because he didn't believe in the USA
Resign. Return to club football. Win something. Get hired in Europe. Win something. Then you 're an authentic candidate as an international coach. All he has proven is that he is Jay Berhalter's creepy little brother. #BerhalterOut
Yeah, we missed the boat to dump this mediocrity, but given that this year 5 of his tenure, and there isn't improvement means the leash has to be tight and short. If we want to be a serious footballing nation with goals to mark improvement as a national team program, when we don't meet those goals, then we dump the man responsible for failure: GreGG and his asinine Berhalter-ball.
The guy is a proven loser and our MNT cant move forward. He must have dirt on someone at USSF to keep his job so long with nothing to show time and again.
USSF got its mask taken off by the reyna family and showed us how much of shit show this federation truly is and somehow we expected better than the crap they've come up with, USSF will have no plan if Berfalter goes so its damned if we do, damned if we don't because we all know USSF is really the root of the problem with not properly creating a curriculum accessible to coaches as they gate keep that knowledge hence why we have all these guys that went to Europe to get their licenses but haven't got an original though in their heads because they imitate not innovate which is what the USMNT need
Who fears this team? Predictable and boring, forcing the ball wide and back vs playing forward and to our player strengths. Even a win feels like a draw or a loss most times. What’s not to love about Berhalter?
Fans? What are you thinking. U.S terrible team ever following history tournament Gold Cup the only win 😂😂😂 Copa America and World cup never win anyway after keep changing coaches 😂😂😂😂😂
@@nFWAYGo LOL. You aren't his boss. He is under no obligation to run the team in the dozens of contradictory ways that his critics think it should be run. If he was European, 80% of his critics would be fans. That's the reality. They determined not to like him as soon as they hired an American coach.
@cele. brim1 Never should have been hired in 1st Place, US Soccer lied through their teeth about doing an international search for a Manager. Berhalter wasn't even a middle of the ta le manager in MLS.and was sacked by the Swedish club Hammaby for being tactically inept. Berhalter owes his job to his brother being a executive in US Soccer.
@@celebrim1 lmao Idgaf if he’s European or not, how about he competent and know what a low block is? How about stop being a mls stooge , and step away from his rigid 433 that his masters in ussf want him to have. How about grow a pair of balls
His away games vs CONCACAF Teams have been disappointing. And against the top 10 nations has also been a disappointment. The only reason he remains coach is due to the fact we've beaten Mexico... That is all 🫤
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We have 6 years of data on Gregg...a good performance or two isn't going to change that
G-spot coaches not to lose, rather than to win.
He could always resign. That would make me a GGG fan.
he's not going to resign
The best soccer this player pool has ever produced was when Berhalter was not running the team for 6 months. When Hudson and BJ were in charge of player selection and tactics. By the way it took them one game to move Gio to the midfield something that Gregg refused to do for years. Completely unqualified
I was starting to believe again when Callahan stepped up. Reyna and the rest of the team looked so polished. Should've gave him a shot at coach if the alternative is GGG.
@@rmmvw and guess what? Both Weston and Gio played well farther up the pitch together. Now look at them both. Gio apparently playing the regista role that Gregg has always wished he could implement with Wil Trapp. And Weston looking completely lost. Why must Gregg overthink everything? He thinks he's inserting his genius but all he's doing is confusing his players
@@mikeb6458 he's not looking at the players he has, but the players that he wants
Nothing short of resignation
What evidence do we have that he’s the guy to lead us to a good run at the 26 WC? None. Zero. Zip.
we're not making it out of the group stage in 2026
His resignation, he was given the job due to nepotism & was never a good coach to any previous team.
Hammarby fired him because of his lack of offensive tactics.
Columbus crew was so bad they almost sold their franchise after losing too much
And he was given the NATIONAL TEAM as a gift?! Yeah no, get him out.
"Columbus crew was so bad they almost sold their franchise after losing too much"
You have got to be kidding me. You really believe that? Way to announce to everyone that you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
also USSF won't hire a top foreign coach especially a Latino coach...
@@celebrim1 Quiet, Gregg
A college football coach wouldn't make it 3 years at most** without a signature win yet we have allowed a coach with a country of 330 million people to "figure it out" for six years..
Real fans would’ve said he should’ve been gone. Who are these people you’re interviewing??
They’re on national cable so talking nice.
I was there. They didn't interview me.
Real fans go to games
@@swagman8990 when 2026 is over and ggg is gone then maybe. Depends how ussf treats fans. Ticket pricing, censored press, anti-fan social media posts …
Or here’s a thought don’t ask fans especially American fans cuz they kno very little
Quit … #BerhalterOut!
So you found the fan who likes Berhalter. How many did you have to interview to find the fan?
Gotta be honest, even if they win copa, still love to see another coach come WC 26
If they win Copa America I'll admit I was wrong on Berhalter
@@rodgermurphy5721 The winner of the Copa America would be regarded as probably a top 4 team in the world at minimum.
So what you're saying is that you'll only admit you are wrong if Berhalter is such a good coach he can take a roster of players that barely qualifies on paper as like 20th in the world and win a major tournament.
If Berhalter can do that, he's not just a good coach; he'd be the best coach in the world. Pretty high standard you are setting.
@@celebrim1 No, if he makes the semi finals it's enough to shut the critics up really
Starting to think that either JK wasn't a bad manager or that the 10s USMNT was severely underrated
What did we do in the 10s except blow the 2014 WC with bad coaching, and then collapse as a program between 2015 and 2018. The last good win for the USMNT was like back in 2009.
Jk trash
@celebrim1 he's the reason all the young talent started going to Europe he pushed it.
The team in the early 10s is underrated by fans, but the team and JK were terrible from 2014 on. 4-0 to Costa Rica in a wc qualifier bad! (no red card caveat even)
@Steve-606 he had go rebuild a program that was lacking. No one wanted to play for the usa. He got dual nationals with teeth to play for the team he encouraged players to go to Europe. Without that we wouldn't have this new generation. You imagine an all mls team these days.
His resignation...
Retire. I don't want him going to another club and the fans asking me about him after each performance. I.e.: Jurgen with S. Korea
BERHALTER OUT!
I want him gone, nothing personal. He should have never been given the extension. At the World Cup he had nothing to offer against Netherlands in tactics. He's an mls coach at best. To prove a point, an interim coach helped the US win a nations league cup.
For me it's easy. Get the team to play and generate results up to the talent level. I think I'm realistic about what that means. It means that we routinely have comfortable wins against most CONCACAF teams or examples from other regions like Bolivia. And that we get periodic, but not guaranteed wins and/or strong performances against better teams.
As a practical example, since we're currently in Copa, it would be beating Panama with comfort in the next game, followed by at least one positive result in either of the following two games versus Uruguay or Colombia/Brazil. That could be a tie versus Uruguay and a close loss to Colombia/Brazil. Or a close loss to Uruguay and an upset win versus Colombia/Brazil. If we were to have any mix of suffering to beat Panama (or worse, lose or tie that game) plus getting beat with relative ease by Uruguay/Colombia/Brazil, then I'd still be of the opinion that he's not getting the best out of what he has available to him.
What do you think our talent level is? We are objectively overachieving our talent level. On paper based on the players we can call up we are about 20th in the world. Back in the last world cup cycle we were on paper about 28th in the world. Why do people think we have some sort of talent to make us a top 10 team in the world if we'd just put it together? We're a young team filled with players with struggling careers that have underperformed for their clubs and collectively lost market value. We've got no players anyone would rank in the top 100 in the world, at best one player that is in the top 25 in their position, no players who are the star on their team, almost no players who are the captain of a major team, and in terms of minutes earned for big 5 leagues of Europe we run in about 20th in the world. We've got no international class goalies and it's questionable now that Tim Ream has aged out whether we have any international quality center backs. So how in the world do you think the results aren't up to the talent level?
For me right now comfortably beating everyone in CONCACAF and any team not in the top 25 would be fine for me. Maybe if the team gets a bit older, more experienced, and more mature (looking at you Weston!) then maybe we can start talking about upsets, but upsets by definition are against better teams.
Except we're not comfortably beating CONCACAF foes. Third in World Cup qualifying and only by goal differential. One road win at Honduras and that was it. Congrats he can win tournaments against CONCACAF on US soil versus inferior opposition. That's expected. When has he ever achieved the unexpected other than bad road losses to Trinidad and Tobago, for instance? Never.
Every single usmnt manager since Bora in 1994 has pulled upsets off. Gregg is the only one who has never done it. Stop talking like upsets are impossible. Maybe under his leadership. Steve Sampson who many considered to be the worst national team coach since 1994 beat Argentina AND Brazil in competitions.
@@mikeb6458 JK never beat anyone in a real competition. He had us losing to Jamaica. Wins in friendlies are absolutely meaningless. The USMNT hasn't had a real upset since like 2009.
US fans are as delusional as England fans. And I say that as a US fan. We have had one team in the modern history advance further in the World Cup than we did in 2022. ONE. And that was by a grand total of one match. From 1963-81 we didn't qualify for enter the Gold Cup. We've now had our 2nd best ever run of form in the Gold Cup. In the 3 years of the nation's league we've won every time.
Of the trophies / championships still being played today, Gregg Berhalter has won 40% (4 out of 10). If we win today he'd be one win away from tying the most wins the United States has ever had at the Copa and be tied for the second.
So, let's see, he took over a national team that had lost to T&D and failed to qualify for the world cup. Had the fewest losses and most points in a group since 2010 and tied fewest losses EVER at a World Cup, has dominated Mexico and won 3 straight nations leagues, went Runners Up, Winner, Semi Finals with a B team in the Gold Cup, is on track to equal most wins ever at the Copa, and oh yeah, half of the trophies in the trophy case essentially have his initials on them.
Just because you don't like the tactics or the fact that he's a prickly personality - who cares? There are plenty of things I dislike about Gregg, his stubbornness, his refusal to admit his system - but at the end of the day, like it or not, he has achieved more with an incredibly young roster, a roster you could argue has not even collectively or individually really entered its prime - then we ever had in the past.
And oh, yeah, the VERY best player on the team, the one player who has more impact than anyone else and who if we got hurt would suck all the donkey a** in the world IMO because its not even close in levels of importance - is 198% behind him.
Because here's the other thing to keep in mind. There is NO guarantee, NONE, that the next manager actually does better. Its always easy to say he'd be better or he'd be better or he'd be better. How many teams, in the history of sports have fired a coach or manager, and then that team has fallen apart because no one appreciated what they did or what they had?
Milwaukee Brewers lost their manager to the Chicago Cubs, after not wanting to really met his demands so he left and they let him. how's that going. Brewers are in 1st place, Cubs are in last place.
Detroit Lions fired Jim Caldwell despite making playoffs on a few occasions and sucked worse than they did with him until very recently.
Leeds lets go of Bielsa - um, how's that working out?
Bayern - we have issues Nagelsman - well, how'd that go? 3rd place and trophyless?
Dallas Cowboys famously ran off Jimmy Johnson.
Point is no matter how "talented" a team or squad might be, if you've spent any time at all around competitive sports, you'd know that there is no guarantee that the next manager or coach takes you to next level or even replicates what the previous one achieved. Because its not just the X's and O's that gets changed. Its the entirety of the dynamic . And from the outside looking in its easy to say "oh, well that's a good thing." But there's no way of being able to know that ahead of time.
There are very real reasons Gregg probably deserves to not be in charge. And I am aware of that. But at the same time, this idea that he's holding us back or something... its an insane amount of arrogance, lack of understanding who we really are as a national team or even who our players are - are we having anyone being considered as one of the top 15-20 players in the world? Starting at Bayern, Man City, Barca, Madrid, Arsenal? No? Most of them are bench players or players on mid-tier or lower teams. And that's not a knock. But this is not England. We're not Argentina, Brazil.
Hell, how many of our players realistically start for Columbia? For Brazil? Urugay? CP doesn't start for Brazil. Not with their wingers. If your best players are not better than our countries best players, its insane to be "fire the coach! fire the coach!" Understandably that is how sports work. Been involved in them long enough to know that. But as the saying goes its not the X's and the O's, its the Jimmy's and Joe's. And while maybe we're better than we have been in a long time in that regard, we're light years behind the elite nations.
Love Matt Turner. Love Ream. Big fan of a fit Weston McKennie and Adams. But if we picked a starting 11 from the Copa America - or even a best 22 - how many US national team members are there? Two? Maybe three max?
Get the team to play to their potential? We are a better team than we have shown under GGG.
LOL.
We're objectively overachieving relative to our talent level, and that's not even getting into the fact that we are only at this talent level because Berhalter is the best recruiter the team has ever had.
Your team is just overrated and mediocre.
@@marktheshark7588U.S. Level is at least as good as the Current Austria Squad.
@@lennyjenkins9931 I highly doubt that bruh.
@@marktheshark7588 In what way? Alaba is the only World class player Austria has. Everyone else is mediocre or decent( Laimer and Sabitzer are amazing but not world class). The U.S. is easily at their level.
berhalter has step down to make usmnt fans show up his still playing is boring ppl don't watch soccer
If they aren't showing up they aren't a fan in the first place.
@@celebrim1 well then they should stop complaining y fans ain't showing up
@@cesarjusto14 "They" ain't showing up because most people don't have $300 a ticket to spend in this economy no matter who the coach is. Changing the coach ain't going to change that.
@@celebrim1how do you think fans are made
I was like the only guy on Twitter telling everyone that Berhalter was coming back regardless of Reyna Gate. They laughed at me, they mocked me, and they told me I was full of it. Ale Moreno here always tells it like it is and he doesn't sugarcoat anything so maybe him saying it will give more credibility to what I've been trying to get people to understand.
If he starts playing GIO as a 10 and shows he is willing to adapt and try a 4-2-3-1 then I would it is a sign he is willing to learn and I would say there is a small amount of hope for him.
Key point ; to make the boys play like men. Gregg do it or bring an Argentinian or Uruguayan coach. Or that famous german coach. Klop?
#BerhalterOut
Austria’s team other than Sabitzer doesn’t really have some amazing squad, but they have a quality coach who understands how to play the game and shows how coaching quality makes a massive difference
I mean, Sabitzer is like the fifth best player on the team but OK. Laimer? Schlager? Alaba? Even Danso. Look at the teams those guys play for. How many US players do you think would start on that Austrian team? Maybe two? US players earned about 36k minutes in the big 5 leagues last year, and Austrian players earned like 55k.
I think that makes a pretty massive difference as well.
Also, you are literally talking about the inventor of gegenpressing, and a guy that commands about three times the salary of Berhalter. No way is a guy like that going to step down to coach a minor program like the USMNT. You want to replace Gregg with someone, lets talk about people with comparable salaries who'd actually take the job after the US fires a coach with the best record in its history.
If Berhalter handles Uruguay and Colombia handily I would be a believer. This means against Uruguay, win, don't fall for their defensive trap and counter and make tactical adjustments with timely subs in the 2nd half to win. Same for a Colombia game. Versus Brazil draw or win, a repeat of the friendly, with a smooth and continual method to string attacks all throughout the game (copy the defensive performance as in the friendly). Has Berhalter ever shown this? No. The only massive wins or draws he's had has been played against teams that did not adjust to the USMNT standard 4-3-3 so Berhalter had to make little or no adjustments to his default tactic (think Mexico and England) while they themself played sub optimal tactics. If a team is set up to beat us, Berhalter gets trumped every time.
Columbia is going to be hard to beat. They really have to be with Argentina favorites to win the tournament. On a good day we can beat Uruguay, but it's going to require 100% focus from this group of young players.
@@celebrim1 Colombia*
Winning..... You win , you get the fans backing you up. You lose the fans will turn.
I think you are wrong you fire the coach. T he world cup is still years away so the new coach can implement a new plan if he has too. Are you gonna waste prime years of some of your best talent because you wanna hold on to a bad manager.
They need to go decently far in the current COPA. Then they need to win the Gold Cup or at least come close. Then they need to get out of the group stage in the '26 WC......and possibly one more win. Only then will I change my opinion on Berhalter.
Starting XI. Turner. Robinson, Ream, Richards, Weah. Adams, Cardoso, McKinnie, Reyna. Pulisic, Balogun.
This would provide service from the back, with a secure double pivot in Cardoso and Adams. McKinnie and Reyna could provide both support and when free creativity and attack. Pulisic would be freer and Balogun will have service. 0 excuses. Better to try this against Panama than Uruguay, but doubt we'll see such Panache from Berhalter. 👌
A signature win
If it wasn't for Pulisic's support, GGG would have been long gone. Unless that support is withdrawn, I fear that we are stuck with him.
My advice to GGG, coach the players, keep them happy, eager and lose and BE FLEXIBLE .....ready to make tactical changes the game presents.
Is there any chance US can overpay for Klopp for a couple seasons?
They wont fire him. It'll cost millions.
Quit the job
Honestly he never should have been brought back in the first place. Now we’re stuck with him.
Quitting would be a great start!!!
Go back in time and prevent Klinsmann from being fired.
I honestly think some of the Berhater haters will be disappointed if we make the semis or better. At worst we will make the quarterfinals which probably means he's gonna stick around for world cup like it or not
It's Bob Bradley all over again. I've heard this sort of dysfunctional and clueless whining from the "fans" before. They fired Bradley and the team hasn't recovered. It's been like 2009 since we really had something special to cheer for. We're only just now getting back to the level of talent we had under Bradley.
And meanwhile the usual suspects would cheer if we brought another German clown in and defend the last one to this day.
@@celebrim1 I remember Bob Bradley days fondly...the underdog punching above our weight
It's not winning, it's looking like an elite team. Winning should be a side effect
The problem is not the coach, is the approach.
Thats the coach! Its his approach. Hes a bad coach!
The only problem is who else will take this job??!!
I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say, what if the US does upset several teams, and plays really well, semifinal/final? How many fans who say "I hate Berhalter" would instantly say, "I always knew Berhalter was the guy" LOL.. Alright, I had a little too much fun there. I dont think anything short of a World Cup title would stop people from hating Berhalter. And even THEN, there'll be people who hate on him, or say, "Well, he didnt matter, it was all his players doing". I definitely don't think this dude can win over the fans no matter WHAT he does, just my opinion
If he wins games they will say it was luck or they will say that it was despite Berhalter rather than because of him. And they'll actually complain. If we were to make a deep run at Copa America, they'd actually complain about it and whine about it and be unhappy. They've literally done this sort thing before.
Resign.
Have elite class player which he doesn’t
Obviously there isn't an MLS/USSF agenda.😂😂😂
He could win Copa America, and I still think he should be fired. He’s just not good enough. Even if he wins this competition, which is highly unlikely… I’d rather another coach take the reins to position them best for a good showing at the World Cup.
If he wins Copa America it will be the biggest win in US history by alot
@@rodgermurphy5721 I agree. If that happens, he should be applauded. And then promptly replaced. LOL Really though, if he does that and he is getting the most out of the players... great! there just haven't been signs that he can do that
Agreed. He has to go!!
Semi Final or gone.
Pep said he's achieved everything except coach a national team. If GGG really cares about us, he'll step down so Pep can coach the USMNT next year when his contract runs up with City.
Pep doesn't want to coach the USMNT.
What would it take??? Quitting his job and allowing a better coach to take over!
What fans?
We got a coach with no ideas. He doesn't know how to adjust. No tactical knowledge. He is a coach who wants to joystick the game. He is not just good enough.
Hey. I'll use the words Moreno used, and say whether you like it or not American sports fans have plenty of options. If you want them to be soccer fans you'll have to win big games against competition not named Mexico. You won't do that with Berhalter.
2026 will be a wasted opportunity due to nepotism. What a shame.
Getting out of group won’t do it. He needs to make Semis.
Berhalter has a college coach's mentality: he wants to be the center of attention so he makes the team about his "system" instead of about the players. He will never get the best out of the player pool because he will never allow the players to act with autonomy or creativity. He's one of those egomaniacs who would rather lose than let someone else get credit for a win. There is no hope of rehabilitating him before 2026.
Ya guys, change your minds like too much. First is needed a new coach and now we don't.
Might as well tell me the federation is telling you to defend Greg.
Get the US to the top 4 of the World Cup or win the Copa
LOL.
So you think it's reasonable with the talent we have to aspire to be one of the 4 best teams in the world? And if he can't coach us to a finish that indicates we are a top 4 team in the world, you won't support him?
My friend, if Berhalter can take this team to a top 4 finish in the world, then he's objectively the best coach in the world.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@celebrim1If Morocco can do it so can the USMNT.
@@lennyjenkins9931 Morocco on paper has better players than the USMNT earning more minutes in Europe than the USMNT and it got lucky. I'm not saying that the US men can't do it, but I am saying that you shouldn't expect it as a reasonable result.
@@celebrim1 Morocco made it to fourth place in 2022's World Cup. They were definitely not the fourth best team in the world.
Berhalter is trash, and they should fire him immediately. Fire him ASAP, even in the middle of the Copa
This federation is so frustrating
If the USA lose to a bad team, then yes he will be dismissed. There's nothing else.
FIRE HIM!! Hire a European Coach.
Nothing. American Outlaws are the worst football fans in all of football. I'd rather hang out with Millwall fans if that tells you anything.
This ^^^. So many "fans" making the culture just seem utterly undesirable to other sports fans. I swear, we've gotten worse than the English fans. The level of delusion, entitlement, and whining drives me bonkers sometime.
"We'd be winning a world cup with this sort of talent if it wasn't for this coach! I bet there isn't any other nation that can field 11 players that play in the big 5 leagues of Europe. Sure... ours are backups, with shaky careers, but his is the best US team ever. It's not like the USA ever had anyone playing in Europe before."
Gregg Berhalter is just american version of Southgate.Also,this current USMNT is arrogant and overrated.They ain't making it to any semi final.
He'd have to leave the team. There will always be a shadow hanging over Callahan's shoulder, and if he loses an important match for whatever reason, the Ghost of Gregg's Amateur Selections & Tactics will always color public opinion.
Landon Donovan was the best American player and the 2002 team USA will never be topped until you have a great player like Landon Donovan who believes in USA soccer and doesn't need to play in Europe to believe he can compete. Jeurgan Klinsman was the lamest example of a head coach. He placed nothing but doubt in the minds of all player and fans because he didn't believe in the USA
Just look at his record outside of CONCACAF?!?! Pathetic! Why do you even discuss this.
Resign. Return to club football. Win something. Get hired in Europe. Win something. Then you 're an authentic candidate as an international coach. All he has proven is that he is Jay Berhalter's creepy little brother. #BerhalterOut
Yeah, we missed the boat to dump this mediocrity, but given that this year 5 of his tenure, and there isn't improvement means the leash has to be tight and short. If we want to be a serious footballing nation with goals to mark improvement as a national team program, when we don't meet those goals, then we dump the man responsible for failure: GreGG and his asinine Berhalter-ball.
More wins and less stupidity please
The guy is a proven loser and our MNT cant move forward. He must have dirt on someone at USSF to keep his job so long with nothing to show time and again.
At least Gregg isn't Southgate
What? Hes just like him
He wasted a decade of American soccer
USSF got its mask taken off by the reyna family and showed us how much of shit show this federation truly is and somehow we expected better than the crap they've come up with, USSF will have no plan if Berfalter goes so its damned if we do, damned if we don't because we all know USSF is really the root of the problem with not properly creating a curriculum accessible to coaches as they gate keep that knowledge hence why we have all these guys that went to Europe to get their licenses but haven't got an original though in their heads because they imitate not innovate which is what the USMNT need
Who fears this team? Predictable and boring, forcing the ball wide and back vs playing forward and to our player strengths. Even a win feels like a draw or a loss most times. What’s not to love about Berhalter?
Goddamn has Ali krieger always been a smoke show? 😅
resignation
Herc’s compromised
He’s not the guy
For him to quit 😊
Berhalter is exactly like southgate , boring , no flair, team won’t win big games
He could win the Copa and he still needs to go a cock roach would be a better coach
Dump that awful 4-3-3.
It is a game of 11 against 11. The difference is this. Play like men or play like boys. Attitude. In Brasil they say Team Casca Grossa. Thick skin.
He could quit.
Bald fraud was still calling Gyasi Zardes as late as 2022😂
Resign that’s the only solution
Fans? What are you thinking. U.S terrible team ever following history tournament Gold Cup the only win 😂😂😂 Copa America and World cup never win anyway after keep changing coaches 😂😂😂😂😂
Don’t be Greg Berhalter
Be born in Europe.
Wrong. Be transparent and embracing criticism is a good start, not being rigid on tactics or owning to mistakes
@@nFWAYGo LOL. You aren't his boss. He is under no obligation to run the team in the dozens of contradictory ways that his critics think it should be run.
If he was European, 80% of his critics would be fans. That's the reality. They determined not to like him as soon as they hired an American coach.
@cele. brim1 Never should have been hired in 1st Place, US Soccer lied through their teeth about doing an international search for a Manager. Berhalter wasn't even a middle of the ta le manager in MLS.and was sacked by the Swedish club Hammaby for being tactically inept. Berhalter owes his job to his brother being a executive in US Soccer.
@@celebrim1 lmao Idgaf if he’s European or not, how about he competent and know what a low block is? How about stop being a mls stooge , and step away from his rigid 433 that his masters in ussf want him to have. How about grow a pair of balls
@@WilliamBrightman-dn8de All BS.
His away games vs CONCACAF Teams have been disappointing. And against the top 10 nations has also been a disappointment. The only reason he remains coach is due to the fact we've beaten Mexico... That is all 🫤