The newest Bug-a-salt has a stock, sling, and laser. It's more powerful than the previous version. Their revolver is based on a Crossman pellet gun and parts are interchangeable. I wouldn't advise swapping barrels. The salt versions barrel is designed to break up the salt wad. The revolver was designed to destroy hard shell insects. It will obliterate flies. The per shot cost of the revolver is about 10 cents. But if you're into revolvers and have an insect or arachnid issue, set up a baited patch and have at it. It is a great, cheap, trigger time analog to your revolver. It will also address small scorpions. You can set up aluminum foil targets at 5 feet and plink while watching TV.
I have an old handgun reloading manual. I forget who wrote it but remember the guy in the author photo had a handlebar mustache that came to sharp points. He had a how to on reloading your own handgun shot cartridges with cut cardboard wadding, and shot. I made some and think I finished it off with elmers glue. It wouldn't kill a bird past 10 feet. But that kind of stuff is why wheelguns are fun because you can do stuff like that. Or load to whatever power level you want.
always did #2 and #9 IN THE 44 then thought I could have just bought bbs to go with the #9 oh well just have lots of shotgun shell shot, don't crimp 44s, never used but took on various rivers for rafting
My buddy has been experimenting with a S&W Model 10 with the chamber lengthened to 360 Dan Wesson, and larger size shot, with a barrel taper reamed but STILL has rifling to keep it legal. It's working a lot better on pests, like rats, than regular shotshells and stock handguns.
Might go out to 357 Maximum and try that next. Gotta keep it close to home though. I don't think a Model 10 is going to respond well to 357 Maximum factory loads!!!
I have a friend who loads his Beretta 92 with the first round as a shot shell for home defense. It never occurred to me that it would not cycle properly. I will have to find out if he ever tested it. One thing I have wondered about is the effect of shooting shot, if it damages the rifling. That might be a way to get a legal short barreled smooth bore, shoot out the rifling. How about a discussion of 12 gauge minishells?
It definitely won't cycle a Beretta 92 unless you get the recoil spring so light that it's unreliable for regular ammo. That light of a recoil spring will also cause regular ammo to beat it to death in short order. The shot doesn't hurt your barrel at all. The plastic capsule that the shot is enclosed in exits the barrel with the shot in it. Then breaks apart. If you shot a ton of the crimped style (some 22 L.R. and old Remington 45 ACP) it does contact the barrel but it's lead and doesn't do any damage.
It won’t hurt rifling so fire away. Sometimes the 9mm will cycle, but sometimes it won’t. He definitely needs to check. For the life of me, I just can’t figure out why they can’t make smoothbore revolvers. The original law was to keep shotgun barrels at 18” or longer and was never intended for handguns. Ahem .. Roy
I have used cci shot in 22mag, 38 spc and 44. They work grate. Live and let live Don't work well when they drop out of bushes in you're boat. And does not work well with cattle, horses and chickens.
@@jeffhutchins7048 Not with the revolver but the pump, I would imagine you could use silica (fine sand) or another granular analog. I'm sure they chose salt because it was cheap and readily available.
I've always figured that about salt, and outdoors it would be great. Never thought about sand, I have a TON of glass beads. Might try that. It'll probably wear it out faster but dust in the shop wouldn't be NEARLY as bad as salt or sugar!!!
Gentlemen, have you ever tried DoubleTap's snake shot load? They've done something very innovative for shot pattern and reach. It's a shot load in front of a very lightweight full wadcutter behind it. Seems to hold groups at least twice as good as any CCI load, plus you have the punch of a wadcutter behind the charge. I've only found like one independent video of someone firing this stuff through paper to show pattern.
I’ve heard of it but have not used it. The only thing I can see is if you just want shot so it won’t damage the inside of a barn or shed or something. With that load you have a bullet too. But outdoors or if you don’t care about bullet holes, it’s a great way to solve that problem. I’ll see if I can get some from them. Roy
@@fmgpubs Yeah if structure damage is a concern it wouldn't be as versatile as CCI. Otherwise, the shot pattern seems to be the main improvement with it, as well the ability to take out a critter the size of a skunk or coon if need be.
Once again, the NFA puts a crimp in personal safety. Prior to 1934 smooth bore revolvers were available for shooting shot charges and used by trick shots for safety reasons. Even the mighty Taurus Judge and similar revolvers suffer from rifling spinning the shot charge, spreading it out. Thank you for spreading the word that snake shot in a pistol is counterproductive for fending off hostie humans. Some people have the idea that all shotguns are equal, and that stuffing a .22 derringer with snake shot turns it into a 12-gauge riot shotgun that will fling everybody across a football field in a 90-degree arc in front of the muzzle. The M18 Claymore Mine isn't that effective! Thank you also for mentioning garden guns. A .22 LR snake load from a smooth-bore barrel (there are .22LR shotguns) is actually effective out to 30 feet or so and if not for the ammo costs might be the ticket to learn wing shooting. There is a reason why the 9mm Folbert was more popular than the .22 shotgun--greater terminal effect due to bigger payload. Firing shot cartridges out of a rifled barrel limits effective range to about 10' for the .22 LR and 15" for .38 Special/9mm Luger/.45 ACP from a conventional pistol barrel. The Thompson Center used a reverse-rifled choke segment of its .410 bore shotgun barrel to comply with federal law and develop decent shot patterns but I have no experience with that set-up. One further issue presents itself when using snake shot in handguns--having the right load up the spout. Semiautomatic pistols may fail to cycle with snake loads (as noted) and loading one in the chamber with normal pistol ammo in the magazine means clearing a stoppage--or a jam. Going to a revolver means having the snake load as the "next" cartridge in the cylinder instead of the one under the hammer--imagine your chagrin when your first shot was a full-bore .357 Magnum instead of a snake load. Dutch police once loaded their revolvers with one blank, one tear gas cartridge and then two or three ball rounds and they had to fit their revolvers with a safety catch that locked up the cylinder so that the correct cartridge would fire when needed. I had a S&W Model 18 Airweight Bodyguard in 1979; I tested CCI snake shot by loading all five chambers with shot cartridges and when I fired the first shot I was showered with #9 pellets. My revolver jammed up solid and it took a while to get it open--the shot capsules had ruptured with the first shot. I think two out of the four had shattered from recoil in that 14-ounce alloy-framed S&W. When I fired the same loads in my heavier Ruger Security Six revolver, no issues--except that I had to either be very careful that the right cartridge fired. When firing snake loads, use eye protection because some of the pellets will bounce back and hit you when shooting at something one or two or even three yards away--the small shot launched at low velocity will have minimum remaining energy after ricochet, but there is some energy. Here's an interesting experiment--pit a .22 LR pistol loaded with snake shot against a CO2 powered BB pistol with a raw potato as a target. I'll bet that the BB gun wins at 10 feet.
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The newest Bug-a-salt has a stock, sling, and laser. It's more powerful than the previous version. Their revolver is based on a Crossman pellet gun and parts are interchangeable. I wouldn't advise swapping barrels. The salt versions barrel is designed to break up the salt wad. The revolver was designed to destroy hard shell insects. It will obliterate flies. The per shot cost of the revolver is about 10 cents. But if you're into revolvers and have an insect or arachnid issue, set up a baited patch and have at it. It is a great, cheap, trigger time analog to your revolver. It will also address small scorpions.
You can set up aluminum foil targets at 5 feet and plink while watching TV.
I’ve played with one and it will kill wasps dead, while the original just makes them mad … Roy
I've found a True Temper square point shovel to be quite effective for dispatching diamondback rattlers here in San Diego !
Cheaper than ammo.
I live in the country side between a ranch and a horse training operation. There are LOTS of flies. The bug assalt carbine works great.
Please discuss handloads with shot. Great podcast as always! Thanks...n
Okie dokie. We’ll put it in line! Roy
I have an old handgun reloading manual. I forget who wrote it but remember the guy in the author photo had a handlebar mustache that came to sharp points. He had a how to on reloading your own handgun shot cartridges with cut cardboard wadding, and shot. I made some and think I finished it off with elmers glue. It wouldn't kill a bird past 10 feet. But that kind of stuff is why wheelguns are fun because you can do stuff like that. Or load to whatever power level you want.
It was likely George Nonte. A real gun guy and famous in the old school days. Roy
I got some 44 Speer shot capsules back in the day and a bag of #9 shot and rolled my own.
I think we all did Sheriff! Roy
I used to carry an American derringer with 410 dove shotshells for snakes !
I have one of those bug assault guns and it’s a blast.
always did #2 and #9 IN THE 44 then thought I could have just bought bbs to go with the #9 oh well just have lots of shotgun shell shot, don't crimp 44s, never used but took on various rivers for rafting
Winchester made a 9mm shotgun as well.
Read about the "Snake House" in Idaho if you want a new perspective on "harmless" 🐍.
What about the Gamo Viper Xpress that fires shot cartridges.
I forgot about those but don’t have any personal experience with them. Roy
My buddy has been experimenting with a S&W Model 10 with the chamber lengthened to 360 Dan Wesson, and larger size shot, with a barrel taper reamed but STILL has rifling to keep it legal.
It's working a lot better on pests, like rats, than regular shotshells and stock handguns.
I can see that working. I’ve seen others use various cut-down rifle cases to get more of a shot load. Roy
Might go out to 357 Maximum and try that next.
Gotta keep it close to home though.
I don't think a Model 10 is going to respond well to 357 Maximum factory loads!!!
I have a friend who loads his Beretta 92 with the first round as a shot shell for home defense. It never occurred to me that it would not cycle properly. I will have to find out if he ever tested it. One thing I have wondered about is the effect of shooting shot, if it damages the rifling. That might be a way to get a legal short barreled smooth bore, shoot out the rifling. How about a discussion of 12 gauge minishells?
It definitely won't cycle a Beretta 92 unless you get the recoil spring so light that it's unreliable for regular ammo. That light of a recoil spring will also cause regular ammo to beat it to death in short order.
The shot doesn't hurt your barrel at all. The plastic capsule that the shot is enclosed in exits the barrel with the shot in it. Then breaks apart.
If you shot a ton of the crimped style (some 22 L.R. and old Remington 45 ACP) it does contact the barrel but it's lead and doesn't do any damage.
It won’t hurt rifling so fire away. Sometimes the 9mm will cycle, but sometimes it won’t. He definitely needs to check. For the life of me, I just can’t figure out why they can’t make smoothbore revolvers. The original law was to keep shotgun barrels at 18” or longer and was never intended for handguns. Ahem .. Roy
I fooled a lot of friends in my youth busting old light bulbs mid air with .38 snake shot.......(confession)
Shhh ... your secret's safe.Roy
I have used cci shot in 22mag, 38 spc and 44. They work grate.
Live and let live
Don't work well when they drop out of bushes in you're boat.
And does not work well with cattle, horses and chickens.
I wish the Bug-A-Salt used different ammo. I don't like shooting salt around my shop. It's WAY too humid here for that.
@@jeffhutchins7048 Not with the revolver but the pump, I would imagine you could use silica (fine sand) or another granular analog. I'm sure they chose salt because it was cheap and readily available.
I've always figured that about salt, and outdoors it would be great.
Never thought about sand, I have a TON of glass beads. Might try that. It'll probably wear it out faster but dust in the shop wouldn't be NEARLY as bad as salt or sugar!!!
Gentlemen, have you ever tried DoubleTap's snake shot load? They've done something very innovative for shot pattern and reach. It's a shot load in front of a very lightweight full wadcutter behind it. Seems to hold groups at least twice as good as any CCI load, plus you have the punch of a wadcutter behind the charge. I've only found like one independent video of someone firing this stuff through paper to show pattern.
I’ve heard of it but have not used it. The only thing I can see is if you just want shot so it won’t damage the inside of a barn or shed or something. With that load you have a bullet too. But outdoors or if you don’t care about bullet holes, it’s a great way to solve that problem. I’ll see if I can get some from them. Roy
@@fmgpubs Yeah if structure damage is a concern it wouldn't be as versatile as CCI. Otherwise, the shot pattern seems to be the main improvement with it, as well the ability to take out a critter the size of a skunk or coon if need be.
I will be trying it. Thanks!!
Once again, the NFA puts a crimp in personal safety. Prior to 1934 smooth bore revolvers were available for shooting shot charges and used by trick shots for safety reasons. Even the mighty Taurus Judge and similar revolvers suffer from rifling spinning the shot charge, spreading it out.
Thank you for spreading the word that snake shot in a pistol is counterproductive for fending off hostie humans. Some people have the idea that all shotguns are equal, and that stuffing a .22 derringer with snake shot turns it into a 12-gauge riot shotgun that will fling everybody across a football field in a 90-degree arc in front of the muzzle. The M18 Claymore Mine isn't that effective!
Thank you also for mentioning garden guns. A .22 LR snake load from a smooth-bore barrel (there are .22LR shotguns) is actually effective out to 30 feet or so and if not for the ammo costs might be the ticket to learn wing shooting. There is a reason why the 9mm Folbert was more popular than the .22 shotgun--greater terminal effect due to bigger payload. Firing shot cartridges out of a rifled barrel limits effective range to about 10' for the .22 LR and 15" for .38 Special/9mm Luger/.45 ACP from a conventional pistol barrel. The Thompson Center used a reverse-rifled choke segment of its .410 bore shotgun barrel to comply with federal law and develop decent shot patterns but I have no experience with that set-up.
One further issue presents itself when using snake shot in handguns--having the right load up the spout. Semiautomatic pistols may fail to cycle with snake loads (as noted) and loading one in the chamber with normal pistol ammo in the magazine means clearing a stoppage--or a jam. Going to a revolver means having the snake load as the "next" cartridge in the cylinder instead of the one under the hammer--imagine your chagrin when your first shot was a full-bore .357 Magnum instead of a snake load. Dutch police once loaded their revolvers with one blank, one tear gas cartridge and then two or three ball rounds and they had to fit their revolvers with a safety catch that locked up the cylinder so that the correct cartridge would fire when needed. I had a S&W Model 18 Airweight Bodyguard in 1979; I tested CCI snake shot by loading all five chambers with shot cartridges and when I fired the first shot I was showered with #9 pellets. My revolver jammed up solid and it took a while to get it open--the shot capsules had ruptured with the first shot. I think two out of the four had shattered from recoil in that 14-ounce alloy-framed S&W. When I fired the same loads in my heavier Ruger Security Six revolver, no issues--except that I had to either be very careful that the right cartridge fired. When firing snake loads, use eye protection because some of the pellets will bounce back and hit you when shooting at something one or two or even three yards away--the small shot launched at low velocity will have minimum remaining energy after ricochet, but there is some energy.
Here's an interesting experiment--pit a .22 LR pistol loaded with snake shot against a CO2 powered BB pistol with a raw potato as a target. I'll bet that the BB gun wins at 10 feet.