I usually work on the leader the first year. If they have offshoots I can get to the rungs. I set that up. But to me the first year is more about setting up a strong good leader. The second & third seasons are to set up the rungs. I'm not expecting a harvest until season 4. I do allow it to fruit some in season #3. But.. you don't really get good qualities until season 4. Also note. Some insects like wasps eat grapes. Deer love grapes. You will have to defend your grapes. Be prepared for that. Sometimes people go without issues. But.. my area I have to defend mine.
I have a very very old Concord grape in my yard that’s been there since I moved in back in 93. I can’t kill it here in northern Utah. I even totally neglected it the last 3-4 years and despite that it has completely taken over my backyard fence. Judging by the size of the main stem it’s probably 40-50 years old at this point and could even be a cutting from the original vineyard that was here before they built the house in 1950.
Thank you for this! We are growing Flame Seedless in AZ. Watched this and started pruning some of the excess foliage for better airflow for our grapes. So glad we found you!
Great information; thanks for sharing! I haven’t seen growth from my grape plant yet this spring but things are emerging slowly here in Alberta, Canada. Blessings to all 🤗🇨🇦
Perfect timing, Luke! Thank you!! I'm getting ready to transplant my 4 grape plants and grow them up a cattle panel arch. This was awesome information, as usual.
Nice video on grapes. I like using a little sprinkle of clean wood ash around mine. It takes about 4 seasons to get them established and producing but it's well worth the wait. Most of my vines are catawba. I have one native riparia that came up in a flood zone on my property. The rabbits ate it to the ground every year so I moved it into the fenced garden.
Luke, I have a Seedless Concord that has gone rather wild. I'd be very interested in learning how to best prune the established branches to a trellis both for looks & productive value. Thank you. 😊
You're more than likely going to need to cut it way back so you can control the form and attach it to the trellis as it grows new shoots. The positive side is that the plant probably already has a well established root system, so it should grow much faster than a new store bought plant.
I have seedless Concords that do well, I trim the leader back to 6 buds which is allowable for the cultivar. I trim back the leaves back around the grape clusters when ripening time comes. However, they never ripen and they will just sit there until fall never ripening. No idea why they would do that. I also have Canadice and the fruits are simply beautiful! I have some Reliance plants too just started, but I have grown them in another place in the past and they are wonderful Pink gems!
I look for a single stem grape to just continue the leader, ones split that low can still be used, but I would just let the other leader be back up and stripped if it isn't tall enough to attach to the trellis.
I wish you could see the beautiful grape trellis that I made out of cut branches. And one of my grapevines I actually started from seed about five years ago and after planting and buying an additional grape plant, they’re both doing beautifully over my gorgeous, rustic, looking grape arbor. I wish I could share a photo with you. It’s just so beautiful full of vines and this year. I’m getting both red and white grapes. 🍇 ❌⭕️🙏🏽♥️
@jerryhae sweeet. I was kinda worried and in the dark because I never tried them. I don't usually plant things I have never tried but they looked good. They're not a slip skin right?
Any recommendations for very old, established grapevines that were never trained? They came with the house 😂 There is no main lead, they were just allowed to grow wild. The grapes are delicious though
You could prune it for air flow by making thinning cuts to help prevent disease problems. It doesn't need to have a nice symmetrical form to be an amazing producer, it's just more convenient for consistency and ease of harvest.
Don’t know if you’ve solved this problem, but we had bunnies and birds eating our garden and we got ‘pest away’ pellets/spray and it surprisingly worked! It’s just a really strong garlic-y smell
I think it's important to point out that many fruiting perennials like grapes (or fruit trees) are more likely to fruit profusely on horizontal branches or vines. Trellising makes a big difference in the harvest size! 💚
This is my 2nd year growing grapes. I may have pruned them too far back last year, but they are coming back beautifully this year. Do we need to trim them, other than the 2 main leaders and keeping them at 5 ft lengths? Like come winter time etc?
I planted some muscadine grapes from seed. The seeds were from some muscadines grapes that we got from the grocery store. I planted them in the corner of my vegetable garden's fence. I only add a few gallons of cow manure around them in the spring. They have produce like crazy! Never had pest or bird problems even though I have found bird nest in it every year. I barely prune them. The only time I heavily pruned them I had a bad harvest. Luke's advice is solid but I guess muscadine grapes are just different.
I struggle so much with understanding how to correctly prune my grapes. I have a niagara (this will be year 5) and I pulled out the muscadine and replaced it this spring with a red crimson (3rd growing season)
So my vine is huge. I never pruned it and it’s well over 10 years old. It’s already starting coming to life here in Ma. With almost full leaves. Is it too to gaff this thing down to size this season?
Yeah, you may be overwatering or just too much rain. Reliance grapes are very sweet in my experience of growing them. I am a bit lucky and the rains have stopped in August by me and I just deprive them water practically that entire month. The dry seasons of California is the main reason their grapes work so well. Fewer fungal issues and typically great ripening weather in those times of the year.
I have seedless Concords that set great fruit. Nearly no fungal issues while sparingly using copper sulfate, for years now. I trim the leaves around them as their ripening season closes in, however, most just sit there and never ripen. Weeks go by and they never ripen. I can't find any real reference as to why that happens. Not even at extension websites.
Were they still in the original pots, kept well watered or maybe slightly overwatered and left out in the sun? The store bought plants around me are in some type of soilless sawdust media (possibly mushroom compost?) and as soon as I get them I have to shake out as much of that media as I can from the roots and mix it into my own potting soil, because any plants that get left in that stuff too long end up getting root rot because it holds too much water. The sad part is, if they added perlite or something for drainage, so many more plants would die at the stores from not getting watered enough.
@@christineedwards4865 they are planted in the ground for 2 years. This was our first year having grapes. Grapes are susceptible to grape mummies, I gather.
I would appreciate 10x more detail :) for example, when you advise, keep the plants stress free, you don't follow that with any specific advise on how to do that. Thx for the vida
I think I'll pass on grapes. While it doesn't look complicated, seems results can vary widely. Add in, it might start overtaking areas, and a safer bet is to just buy some. Heck, you even get to try before you buy. How many times have grapes looked delicious, and you eat one and no go
I am CELESTINE DUREKE.I LIVE IN MY COUNTRY NIGERIA. I AM INTERESTED IN RECEIVING GOOD SPECIE OF SEEDS OF GREEN AND PURPLE GRAPES TO PLANT . KINDLY DIRECT ME WHERE I CAN MAKE MY PURCHASES . THANK YOU.
Ur video says every thing about grapes. After 2hr on utube. I'm still trying 2 show actual grapes on a vine. Which grows 1st first the bottom, top, or grow together all the same time. I'm gonna flunk this science project.
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I usually work on the leader the first year. If they have offshoots I can get to the rungs. I set that up. But to me the first year is more about setting up a strong good leader. The second & third seasons are to set up the rungs. I'm not expecting a harvest until season 4. I do allow it to fruit some in season #3. But.. you don't really get good qualities until season 4.
Also note. Some insects like wasps eat grapes. Deer love grapes. You will have to defend your grapes. Be prepared for that. Sometimes people go without issues. But.. my area I have to defend mine.
I have a very very old Concord grape in my yard that’s been there since I moved in back in 93. I can’t kill it here in northern Utah. I even totally neglected it the last 3-4 years and despite that it has completely taken over my backyard fence. Judging by the size of the main stem it’s probably 40-50 years old at this point and could even be a cutting from the original vineyard that was here before they built the house in 1950.
Thank you, your wife and team so very much for all the work you put in to share all this knowledge!
The timing uploading this 👌 thank you so much
its perfect for me too!!! Getting my deer fence put in and next I am going to do this!
Thanks Luke. Great information. Greetings from SW Michigan. Love your channel! God Bless
Thank you for these videos. My grapes are 2 years old this year and putting up the trellis this year.
Thank you for this! We are growing Flame Seedless in AZ. Watched this and started pruning some of the excess foliage for better airflow for our grapes. So glad we found you!
Great information; thanks for sharing! I haven’t seen growth from my grape plant yet this spring but things are emerging slowly here in Alberta, Canada. Blessings to all 🤗🇨🇦
how weird I was just looking for this, and couldn’t find it. I’m so glad you posted this!
Perfect timing, Luke! Thank you!! I'm getting ready to transplant my 4 grape plants and grow them up a cattle panel arch. This was awesome information, as usual.
Nice video on grapes. I like using a little sprinkle of clean wood ash around mine. It takes about 4 seasons to get them established and producing but it's well worth the wait. Most of my vines are catawba. I have one native riparia that came up in a flood zone on my property. The rabbits ate it to the ground every year so I moved it into the fenced garden.
Luke,
I have a Seedless Concord that has gone rather wild. I'd be very interested in learning how to best prune the established branches to a trellis both for looks & productive value.
Thank you. 😊
I have the same problem with a seeded concord vine. Would love to know the same thing!
Me too. ❌⭕️🙏🏽♥️
Same here. The plants I got were not trained to one leader and are bushy already. I have them on an arched trellis.
You're more than likely going to need to cut it way back so you can control the form and attach it to the trellis as it grows new shoots. The positive side is that the plant probably already has a well established root system, so it should grow much faster than a new store bought plant.
I have seedless Concords that do well, I trim the leader back to 6 buds which is allowable for the cultivar. I trim back the leaves back around the grape clusters when ripening time comes. However, they never ripen and they will just sit there until fall never ripening. No idea why they would do that. I also have Canadice and the fruits are simply beautiful! I have some Reliance plants too just started, but I have grown them in another place in the past and they are wonderful Pink gems!
Sweet timing!
I look for a single stem grape to just continue the leader, ones split that low can still be used, but I would just let the other leader be back up and stripped if it isn't tall enough to attach to the trellis.
Does Migardener have a video for 2nd or 3rd year pruning on grape vines?
I wish you could see the beautiful grape trellis that I made out of cut branches. And one of my grapevines I actually started from seed about five years ago and after planting and buying an additional grape plant, they’re both doing beautifully over my gorgeous, rustic, looking grape arbor. I wish I could share a photo with you. It’s just so beautiful full of vines and this year. I’m getting both red and white grapes. 🍇
❌⭕️🙏🏽♥️
Upload a video. I would watch
@@AquaBuddhaDelugeme tooo
Reliance is what I grow. Wonderful grapes!
I just planted one. Do they taste like the red grapes at the stores? Well, better, but is it as crisp?
Yes, best grapes I’ve had ever.
@jerryhae sweeet. I was kinda worried and in the dark because I never tried them. I don't usually plant things I have never tried but they looked good. They're not a slip skin right?
@@MattyDemello Not slip skinned. That's concords for you primarily.
@@frankenz66 awesome. Thanks so much
Thank you for all the great info as usual ❤ i need one for currants!!
Any recommendations for very old, established grapevines that were never trained? They came with the house 😂 There is no main lead, they were just allowed to grow wild. The grapes are delicious though
Dealing with the same.
You could prune it for air flow by making thinning cuts to help prevent disease problems. It doesn't need to have a nice symmetrical form to be an amazing producer, it's just more convenient for consistency and ease of harvest.
The only pests I have a problem with on my grape vines is Racoons! Those buggers can strip all the ripe grapes over night while you are sleeping.
Fabric toole is what saved my grapes for me to harvest. I'm not sure it would stand up to raccoons, but worth a try.
@@justpatty7328thank you I was just thinking it's my third year, yay I'll have grapes. Nope we have coon issues, so hopefully the tulle will work
Field mice are just as bad!
@Leisyt123, get a out door cat !! 🐈
Don’t know if you’ve solved this problem, but we had bunnies and birds eating our garden and we got ‘pest away’ pellets/spray and it surprisingly worked! It’s just a really strong garlic-y smell
Waiting impatiently for my first grape order😊
Happy birthday to me a great video from you!
I think it's important to point out that many fruiting perennials like grapes (or fruit trees) are more likely to fruit profusely on horizontal branches or vines. Trellising makes a big difference in the harvest size! 💚
Or on short branches! I have a josta berry bush which produced very little bit I just noticed the biggest fruit sets are on tiny branches 👍
This is my 2nd year growing grapes. I may have pruned them too far back last year, but they are coming back beautifully this year. Do we need to trim them, other than the 2 main leaders and keeping them at 5 ft lengths? Like come winter time etc?
Watch the birds near harvest time they love grapes too, you may need to net them to resolve this problem😊
So do you want rows that go east-west, or north-south?
Will sunrise to 2 PM work for sunlight? Or do they need more?
What to do with old overgrown vines! New house old grapevine arbor
I planted some muscadine grapes from seed. The seeds were from some muscadines grapes that we got from the grocery store. I planted them in the corner of my vegetable garden's fence. I only add a few gallons of cow manure around them in the spring. They have produce like crazy! Never had pest or bird problems even though I have found bird nest in it every year.
I barely prune them. The only time I heavily pruned them I had a bad harvest.
Luke's advice is solid but I guess muscadine grapes are just different.
We grow muscadine as well. We’re in eastern NC.
Great video!❤🍇
thank you for the tips good sir!
Viticulture: the study and practice of growing grapes. Also a great board game by @StonemaierGames ! One of my favorite games for sure
Great advice! Thanks again!
Thank you
Excellent straight forward informative, thank u!
I struggle so much with understanding how to correctly prune my grapes. I have a niagara (this will be year 5) and I pulled out the muscadine and replaced it this spring with a red crimson (3rd growing season)
So my vine is huge. I never pruned it and it’s well over 10 years old. It’s already starting coming to life here in Ma. With almost full leaves. Is it too to gaff this thing down to size this season?
Is it to late I meant to say. ? Looking forward to bigger tastier grapes.
Great video.
We have reliance grapes but they are SO sour. We have never been able to eat them. Any suggestions on what we could do for better flavor?
Maybe they're getting too much water?
Yeah, you may be overwatering or just too much rain. Reliance grapes are very sweet in my experience of growing them. I am a bit lucky and the rains have stopped in August by me and I just deprive them water practically that entire month. The dry seasons of California is the main reason their grapes work so well. Fewer fungal issues and typically great ripening weather in those times of the year.
How do you keep the grey squrriels out???
Took 16 years to get first few grapes.
I have critters eating the flowering stage of my grapes. What can i apply during the flowering stage that is safe for the flower?
I want to start growing grapes. I’m in Southern California
Hi, not sure if I missed this question on the video but how many years will it take for grapes to fruit?
Could you do a video on growing cherries please?
I have a wild grape vine growing - I am here to find ways to give it a better life. So the vine was planted before I got the trellis! lol
I have seedless Concords that set great fruit. Nearly no fungal issues while sparingly using copper sulfate, for years now. I trim the leaves around them as their ripening season closes in, however, most just sit there and never ripen. Weeks go by and they never ripen. I can't find any real reference as to why that happens. Not even at extension websites.
Would of loved to try your trifecta fertilizer but it's way over priced for me.
It's worth it to me. I use a variety of different amendments and I don't use it for everything, just my most special plants 😊
Sharpen you shovel bro! It will go in easier!
I just planted a reliance grape. I heard that these like to be spur pruned. Is that true?
What is the best way to provide ongoing sulfur?
Can I grow my grapes in high tunnel?
Can we get an update on the grapes 🍇
I bought some marquis grape plants and they say not to fertilize when planting
How can I get koshu grape seeds?
Mine got some disease (?) last year where they turned black and shriveled up.
Were they still in the original pots, kept well watered or maybe slightly overwatered and left out in the sun? The store bought plants around me are in some type of soilless sawdust media (possibly mushroom compost?) and as soon as I get them I have to shake out as much of that media as I can from the roots and mix it into my own potting soil, because any plants that get left in that stuff too long end up getting root rot because it holds too much water. The sad part is, if they added perlite or something for drainage, so many more plants would die at the stores from not getting watered enough.
@@christineedwards4865 they are planted in the ground for 2 years. This was our first year having grapes. Grapes are susceptible to grape mummies, I gather.
I like your videos on average, but lately the video patching gets annoying, information is great, but it kind of becomes an audio file.
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Don't go to heavy on Nitrogen. Some Grape types could react badly and get fungal issues.
I would appreciate 10x more detail :) for example, when you advise, keep the plants stress free, you don't follow that with any specific advise on how to do that. Thx for the vida
I think I'll pass on grapes. While it doesn't look complicated, seems results can vary widely. Add in, it might start overtaking areas, and a safer bet is to just buy some.
Heck, you even get to try before you buy. How many times have grapes looked delicious, and you eat one and no go
I am CELESTINE DUREKE.I LIVE IN MY COUNTRY NIGERIA. I AM INTERESTED IN RECEIVING GOOD SPECIE OF SEEDS OF GREEN AND PURPLE GRAPES TO PLANT . KINDLY DIRECT ME WHERE I CAN MAKE MY PURCHASES . THANK YOU.
I have lost 2 of the 3 grapes Ive planted '(
How long ago did you plant them? Grapes have very resilient roots, and it may just be dormant and could still send up chutes next season..
Ur video says every thing about grapes. After 2hr on utube. I'm still trying 2 show actual grapes on a vine. Which grows 1st first the bottom, top, or grow together all the same time. I'm gonna flunk this science project.
semi crunchy soft? lol