Also…Abby is Korean, the witch is Scottish. Like, “Mary after VA unofficially (it’s not written anywhere canonically in the actual movie, interviews do not count)” doesn’t neccissarily disprove the theory alone? And even IF “Mary” was said/written anywhere within Monsters Inc, some kids start playing around with their First vs Middle Name (my middle name has always been my given name since birth, some Middlers switch to their First because it’s just “easier” than having their name called “not their REAL Name!!”, some Firsters play with using their middle name(s) instead as a way to stand out, etc), and I’ve known several korean classmates whose parents named using English Conventions (first and middle, both often english), not just them adopting English Names vs their Korean Ones. I’ve seen in the comments claiming Boo’s latina but…again, that’s never stated in the film, and Human Animation when Pixar first created Monsters Inc was pretty clunky (if you’re wondering why they mostly made non-human films until Rattattoe or Brave…that’s why. They simply hadn’t gotten the kinks worked out yet, so they stuck with characters that wouldn’t look so Uncanny Valley as the primary cast)
This is a pretty interesting theory, although Boo's established name is Mary and Domee Shi confirmed that Boo and Abby aren't exactly the same person. However, she likes the idea of them being related.
This theory makes sense until we get into the characters’ names and ethnicities. People have said that Boo is actually named Mary, after her VA, and she’s of Hispanic descent. Abby is Korean-Canadian. And the Witch in Brave is a white Scottish old woman. Three different ethnicities. But! Here’s another plausible theory. What if they’re all from the same family tree? Families can have many different heritages. The Witch could be an old, old, old ancestor to Boo and Abby while the girls are related in a different way such as being cousins. That would explain their similar features.
A bit off topic, but Mary being Hispanic makes a lot of sense. When my older sister (who is also Hispanic) was little, she was the spitting image of Boo. Dark brown hair, brown/black eyes, heck they even shared the same face and she would regularly wear a pink t-shirt.
if u pay attention to the kids rooms in monsters inc you can see disneyland opening posters, so its set sometime in the 1950s in the human world. so this would not work
The oldest poster that appeared in MI is from 1967. Boo is a toddler, so she can't use those attractions and she also does not decorate her room by herself. The posters belonged to her parents who must be kids at that time (around 8-14 years old). According to these Boo is 80' - 90' kid.
@@Orto-jj2di I will check Monsters at work, but the 1967 poster heng in Monsters univers, when in children's bedrooms hangs posters from 1952-1958. So monsters are in the future (plus 10 years?) . You may be right. I'm just curious how does it work. Because it means that between monsters and humans could be 10 years gap. Which is really interesting fact.
I saw a theory weeks ago that Boo is the mother of Abby. Later, I saw a theory that she's Boo's sister. I'm not sure which one is more solid, but they're both good to watch.
@@AnnaMae41194 meaning, based on the theory (again, not mine; just one I had heard), that Boo would have had Abby in 1989, making Boo in her late forties/early fifties, by the start of the movie.
Pixar states that Boo is two years old during the events of Monsters Inc. They also state that the events of Monsters Inc takes place in 1999. The events of Turning Red take place in 2002. (Mae and her friends are around 13). In 2002 that would put Boo at only 5 years old. Dismantling any and all theories they are the same person.
Wait, if her entire goal in learning magic is to be reunited with Sully, I'm not sure this makes sense. Cuz at the end of Monsters Inc, they rebuild Boo's door and when Sully opens it, you can hear Boo say "Kitty!" So she already WAS reunited with Sully. I wouldn't put it past Sully to keep the door and visit Boo every now and then as she grew up, so why would she learn magic to reunite with Sully if he was probably already making regular visits?
The reason I could see Boo as Abby is also because we know that Boo had wanted to find Sully for a long time and perhaps when she was able to talk, her parents convinced her that Sully wasn't real nor were magic doors or magic in general due to Boo being the only human to see the monster world. Since its suspected in theory that Boo was Hispanic, perhaps then her family moved to Canada to try to get away from the parental avoidance to the magic. Upon discovering Mei was a magically changing panda, not only would Mei's panda size be similar to Sullys as would the fur texture, perhaps Abby now realizes that she wasn't delusional about Sullys existence because not only is she seeing Mei being a magic panda, so is everyone else around her confirming that the magic IS in fact real which reignited her fire to find Sully since she now realizes it wasn't something made up. That being said, that could have started a life long obsession to finding the monster world again using magic leading to the time travel we see with the Witch in Brave. Also remember, the Witch in Brave was going out of town on business when Merida was going to search for her so who knows what that Witch was really up to during that time.
One little flaw is there about the Monsters-timetravel-part. After they have to destroy the door on Sully's first shown shift on duty. Waterloose says something like "Kids these days don't get scared that easily. if they can travel through time, why don't they travel to a time when kids where easier to scare?
@@Lillyluvsanime Actually it could be from before both Toy story movies. We learn from Toy Story 2 (which is set on the Pixar timeline as taking place in 1997) when Jessie is introduced that they all are part of a toy collection "Woody's Roundup" that comes from a tv show. When we meet Jessie there is a scene that shows all this merchandising from the fanatic collector and there is a Life magazine with woody on the cover titled "Children's Television Saturday's Favorite Cowboy 'Woody'" and the magazine is dated Jan 12, 1957. The toys are at least this old, likely even older!
In other words, just because we are introduced to characters in a movie doesn't mean they come from that exact time. We have to look at when they were around within their own movie's timeline before seeing if they match up with any other movie :)
That doesn’t make sense whatsoever. The jessie doll was introduced in the 50’s. So she could be living way before the first toy story movie for all we know.
I still think Boo was the girl from Sunnyside that we see in Toy Story 3. The witch from Brave being Boo sounds somewhat plausible at first, since her name isn't mentioned in the movie. Except she does more than teleport through a door. It's pretty clear she has additional powers that wouldn't be obtained just by going to the monster world. We might see monsters with strange features, but not magical/witchy powers. And, it's very clear in Monsters Inc. that ALL doors lead to somewhere on Earth, only - evidenced by the map on the scare floor. Based on Boo's room and other rooms we see, I think it's safe to say Earth in Monsters Inc. isn't as magical as the stuff we see in Brave. Violet being Boo is also a bit of a stretch. The only evidence really supporting it at first is that the timelines appear similar (but they aren't). Boo is also said to look very similar to Violet, but when you look closer, her hair and eyes are both dark brown. Violet's hair is blue-black with purplish eyes. Maybe this is a side-effect of her powers, but even then, I feel Incredibles 2 debunked the possibility of Boo being Violet with Jack-Jack. Behind the scenes, Boo's real name was confirmed as Mary. While Violet could be a superhero name like Frozone, the Incredibles call Frozone by his real name (Lucius), and I assume they would do the same for Violet since she's family. Abby being Boo seems about as likely as the witch being Boo. While they have similar color pallets and near-exact appearances (hair/eye color wise), Abby is a completely different ethnicity than Boo (Boo is confirmed to be Hispanic). Same applies to the witch. The biggest factor aside from that are the issues with timelines. Incredibles takes place in the 1960s, Monsters Inc. takes place in 1999, while Turning Red takes place in 2002. This means if Boo is Violet, she would be in her 40s in Turning Red. Clearly not Abby's age, which is 13. Boo is 2 in Monster's Inc. So she would be 5 during the events of Turning Red. Brave takes place hundreds of years before any of these movies, and I feel it would be a stretch to say Boo somehow got powers in the modern era and went back in time. Even if there are supers in the Monsters' Inc. version of Earth, they would be in hiding, so there's no plausible way for her to learn or take powers from someone else. At best, Boo could travel around the world using doors, but not through time. Although, more realistically, monsters probably wouldn't let a human into their world for some time. Even if Boo is shown not to be dangerous in the monster world, Roz states that she can't be allowed to stay. It's most likely Boo is the girl we see in Sunnyside. Toy Story 3 is set in 2007, which would make Boo 10 - about the right age for the butterfly room. Their appearances are also the most similar, as they both have brown hair and eyes. A name for the girl hasn't been confirmed, nor has her ethnicity, but there isn't any strong evidence to oppose that she and Boo are the same person. tl;dr: All the theories related to Boo being a certain character seem like a stretch, except for the theory that Boo is the girl from Sunnyside in Toy Story 3.
Problem with the timetravel Monsters Inc theory is a line that goes something about how kids are no longer scared as easily because of movies or something.
Boo and Abby are not the same person because in Monsters Inc Boo clearly writes her name in one of her drawings and her name it says Mary not Abby. Mary as a toddler and Abby as a teenager? 🤔🤨🥱 make it make sense.
When I was 4, I decided that I would change my name to Sherry. It was the name of a girl in my neighborhood. I thought she was so pretty and nice that I wanted to be just like her. I started dressing like her, acting like her, and even writing the name Sherry in place of my own name. What's one of Abby's best friends name? Miriam. That's a kind of hard name for a toddler to say, let alone write. But you know what would be easier? Mary. Or maybe Miriam is the one who drew the picture and gave it to her friend, Abby. And Abby wanted it on her wall.
@@mental_decay_ ok so maybe another friend named Mary Gibbs drew the picture and gave it to her. We probably shouldn't assume it was Boo that wrote it in the first place. She could barely talk in Monster's Inc. Why do we think she could write her name?
Interesting... although the creators said they are not the same character. See Boo's name is revealed to be Mary, the name can be seen it in some of her drawings when she is asking Sully to shut the closet door. Also Monsters Inc. takes place in 2001 while Turning Red takes place in 2002. A 2 year old can't suddenly turn 14. Lastly, Abby is Korean-Canadian, where as Mary is not Korean and I am pretty sure she might me American.
These theories are really reaching lol. Abby and Boo are *NOT* the same person. The animation style for one is completely different, plus I'm sure each story takes place in different parts of the world. Pixar just likes to mess around and make us think the stories are connected but they are not.
While I agree they are not the same person, the fact that they take place in different parts of the world is not a good reason as to why not. They could have just easily moved in those 10 years
Captain Carter in What if… and Doctor Strange: and the Multiverse of Madness are the same person despite one being animated, and one being live action, so animation style isn’t a significant argument
That's why there have been a lot theory's that boo might be Abby's younger sister maybe because given that monster's Inc And Turing Red are not that far apart
@@cherishlaee well if you live that I got a few RUclipsrs that have done a few theory's on boo and Abby Here they are Issac Carlson flicks and city super carlin brothers they do very good videos about boo and Abby see for yourself
@@horrorgirl3034 it's possible that boo return back in time to see Sully again check out Issac Carlson and super carlin brothers and flicks and city about boo training back in time
@@elletoki The 1950 theory is from the posters in a most of the kid's rooms being posters advertising the opening of Disney Land. Which was around the early 1950's.
I thought abby was boo's older sister but if 1950 is the right timeline then boo is either her mother or her older sister but you still had awesome points😊
Boo is Hispanic though (Plus her name is Mary) and Abby is Korean. Plus, the old witch is probably an outcast for her abilities, not because she's not from Scotland/time travelling.
It would make more sense to me if Abby is Boo’s daughter or Granddaughter. Tying both the fact Abby is Korean & Boo’s supposed real name is Mary & still being the witch from Brave.
Well time does work differently with each door the director of monsters inc has stated that every door within the movie is actually a completely different universe which is actually badass
I keep watching her make the same point (her liking the big red panda just like she liked Sully) over and over as though they are different points lol 😂
This a very good theroy to listen but here is the the thing right I have seen a lot of RUclipsrs break down this theory and apparently Monster's Inc takes place in 1998 so that mean boo will be about 2 Or 3 years old in monster's Inc in Turing Red she will be around 5 year's Old you can check out that theory On flicks and city RUclips channel
My issue with this theory is Boo's motivation for time travel and magic. At the end of MI, it's shown that Mike and Sully still have Boo's door, and it's implied somewhat that Sully can and likely continues to visit her. And considering that Mike and Sully have changed up the motive behind the organization they work at, there would be no reason for them to be prevented from continuing to visit her
I'll accept that Bo and Abby were one and the same, but Abby growing into a time traveling Witch and planting references to Sullie throughout history before settling down a thousand years ago is further than I'm willing to suspend disbelief. If the people who make movies and TV shows want to sneak in references to movies and shows they love, I don't need an in-universe explanation.
Sorry to say this but Abby from Turning Red is not Boo from Monsters Inc. I don't need to prove it cause the director/creator of Turning Red literally said that Abby is not an older Boo.
At the end of the movie Monsters inc, Boo hands Sully a Jessie doll from "Toy Story 2" (made in 1999) and a Nemo squeaky toy (movie released in 2003) so I'm not sure it lines up for boo to be abby but is the witch in brave. Plus the movie producer says that Boo's name in the movie is Mary Gibbs (the name of the voice actor as well).
I feel like the doors could teleport to a different time, as if I remember correctly, when they got trapped with the Yeti the door they went through didn't lead to a bedroom, it led to the middle of nowhere is a cold snowy place, but I could be wrong in remembering, as I haven't watched the movie in maybe 15 years. Despite some holes in the theory, I do love the theory on it. Great video.
There’s a short made with the older witch traveling to Monsters Inc. Universe and ends up visiting Sulley’s Grave. It’s a sad moment and shows a hidden flashback of the two of them back when she was a kid the last time she saw him before he closed the door.
abby is boos kid the timelines dont line up for them to be the same person. boo was a kid in the 50s, where abby is a kid in the early 2000's. but yes the theory that boo becomes the witch is widely accepted.
7:17 now that we're talking about stickers on a skateboard, the same skateboard has not only the Sid t-shirt skull but also the cat from lightyear. I can't make out the other stickers though
So far they thought Violet from Incredibles was her now this girl from turning red I believe this one just because they look a lot alike and both have flowers
Unfortunately it's only a fan Theory. But if the events of turning red happened before monster Incorporated, it would make sense on why monsters are afraid of children. Just imagine a monster trying to scare a child and it randomly magically transforms into an big animal, that would have a reason for the rules. Maybe a few monsters got hurt by these magically transforming children.
Maybe, Boo's real name is Abby, and she couldn't tell Mike and Sully at the time of "Monster's Inc" as she hadn't fully developed speech yet. Interesting theory that the door leads into Abby's childhood room in Toronto in the "main" world.
OR she could be using her middle name, some people do that if their parents' name is the same. My mom does that too. So she could be using her middle name, Mary Abigail "Abby" whatever, lol
I can buy that Boo and Abby are really close to being the same character but the witch from Brave? No I’m not believing that, I think folks are overthinking this stuff. I mean there just easter eggs
This falls apart fir several reasons I won't bother with but one of which is the magic idea. Boo wouldn't need magic to reunite with sulley and you'd know that if you paid any attention to the movie. Also Abbey and boo have about as much in common as they have in common with just little girl stereo types. Flowers that's your evidence to female characters are the same person. Flowers and the color pink? Yeah not convinced at all
One thing that makes this theory even better is that boo sounds like a nickname so her real name could had been Abby or maybe her real name is boo I forgot it’s been a while since I watch the monster inc movie
Not only can this be proven wrong by her name being Marry in connon. But she also has toys of other pixar movies from the time, that throw the time line away
i think, just like a lot of the HP theories that were later "confirmed" by Rowling, that the studio, and artists created several different stories but hid easter eggs in them as nods to their other works, but as fan theories gained traction, they realized how much deeper it seemed to make their works, so they completely retconned them and said "well that was never our intent, but it works, so yeah it's canon now."
There’s one major thing that really hurts the theory. That would be the years and ages. Monsters inc takes place in the summer of 1999 and Turning Red takes place in 2002. Boo would not be the age that Abby is.
I will say Im not sure if Monster inc takes place in the future. As its a separate world from the human world. They do often talk about, The monster world, and the human world separately. Its why the monsters feel safe cause there is no risk of contact with humans- and human children, unless you work at monsters inc of course. So in theory the monster Inc world may or may not aline with the human world in regards to technological advances. The monster world and the human world could be moving in their own parallel universes at there own pace with its own history, time line of events, and the only contact we see with the human world is when they go through the human door portals in the first and second monster inc and university movies. I don't necessarily believe that The monsters would have much of a desire to time travel at all as they don't seem to much have a need. The company would likely only want to improve the technology thats needed for the scare program. The necessary components being- we can make doors in the monster universe that match up with the doors they need to portal and travel through in order to collect scream energy. Since the world was powered by scream energy, I feel like they wouldn't wanna waste any extra precious energy on endeavors that don't have a super practical reason. Since its considered a dangerous job to collect screams and be a scarer. Though on a separate note- prehaps in a different part of the monster universe there is a separate company or something that do experimental science that could maybe include time travel if they felt it was important to do so. But not sure even in that hypothetical they would wanna apply that to the scare program and the doors as it would add even more risky unpredictable factors and dangers to the job. Abby and Boo definitely have some similarities for sure in looks color palette. But feel like there personalities don't quite match up to same extent and energy. I feel like if boo was abby, she would have been a bit more chaotic and wayyyy more hyper and much harder to control. Boo has a sweet, bubbly, cute, happy, but yet calm nature. She does get emotional like kids do as well. Abby has the sweet, happy, bubbly, cute factors but isn't exactly matching up with the calmer sides of boos personality. Abby is I think much more extra, hyper, and much more vocal and loudly expressive. Kids do of course change but I feel like boo's personality would evolve and grow and change in a much different way. A More subtle way in my most humble opinion. They go have similar traits in loyalty and such. Definitely don't see them as possible versions of the same character as I feel its a bit reaching I do very much believe Abby could be in boos family though as a older sister or cousin as that to me would make alot of sense. Especially if they are close their styles could very much rub off on each other and boo could have learned how to be more aggressive from abby when it finally mattered the most. Which we don't see til the end of the movie cause she seems to be more gentle in nature. But if she felt she needed to protect or stand up for herself her first thought would be how she seen Abby handle things. Either way this video is very well made and well thought out. Love hearing about the different theories as I haven't heard this before, and glad Im able to give some of my own thoughts! They could be incorrect as well, but just what I feel. Thank you and hope your all having a lovely day.
About the timing boo is playing with a character of toys story 2, now it became famous because of the movie(in our world) but in their world it was only familiar because of an old cowboy show from 1990’s ….so giving you an aprox year.
The monster world is set in the 90s. It's on Mike's folder for the kid they are set to scare in the beginning. And if you look at the kids rooms these monster's are going in you'll see the posters for the Disneyland grand opening. Which was in the 50s. Boo would be much older in 2002
Fun fact boos hair was put into pigtails because it was easier to trace and everything than do what they wanted which was long ish hair like Abby. So Boo could literally be Abby but it's because they couldn't put the hair they wanted at the time so they had to put pigtails. Pretty sure there's a whole video on the 1990's to now about the human designs like from 1995 toy story all of the characters are blocky but the newer version is barely blocky. (plus it goes into, oh they got humans let's see if they can do skeletons, oh they can do skeletons let's try bugs, oh they can do bugs let's try snails. Yk so on so forth.
It has to be. Abby isn't afraid of anything, just like boo. Not Taco Bell, not McDonald's, not Burger King, not China Star Buffet, not Popeyes, not KFC, she has conquered everything, nothing scares her.
Everything about this makes sense except for one thing- Boo's established name is Mary, canonically. It's written in the movie.
Mary is the voice actor plays boo
I'm also pretty sure Boo is supposed to be Hispanic.
@@daringagged Boo was named Mary after her voice actor, so you both are tecnically right
Also…Abby is Korean, the witch is Scottish.
Like, “Mary after VA unofficially (it’s not written anywhere canonically in the actual movie, interviews do not count)” doesn’t neccissarily disprove the theory alone? And even IF “Mary” was said/written anywhere within Monsters Inc, some kids start playing around with their First vs Middle Name (my middle name has always been my given name since birth, some Middlers switch to their First because it’s just “easier” than having their name called “not their REAL Name!!”, some Firsters play with using their middle name(s) instead as a way to stand out, etc), and I’ve known several korean classmates whose parents named using English Conventions (first and middle, both often english), not just them adopting English Names vs their Korean Ones.
I’ve seen in the comments claiming Boo’s latina but…again, that’s never stated in the film, and Human Animation when Pixar first created Monsters Inc was pretty clunky (if you’re wondering why they mostly made non-human films until Rattattoe or Brave…that’s why. They simply hadn’t gotten the kinks worked out yet, so they stuck with characters that wouldn’t look so Uncanny Valley as the primary cast)
@@daringagged it’s also her real name, look at the drawings in her bedroom. All signed Mary
Love this theory. But maybe Boo is actually just Abby’s sister? I suggest this theory because Boo is named “Mary,” after her voice actor.
@John Faransis Dude, have you watched Monster's University? Those camp counselers seem mighty modern to be from a time before the 50s. Use your head
Monster world is not on the same timeline as human world
I’d always thought that Abby looks more like Trixie Tang from The Fairly Oddparents than Boo
@@iferlyf8172 Exactly, I don’t think any of the Pixar movies have any ties to each other. I think all of them take place in their own Universe
@TheFallenStarlight I think so because she is a lot younger too.
This is a pretty interesting theory, although Boo's established name is Mary and Domee Shi confirmed that Boo and Abby aren't exactly the same person. However, she likes the idea of them being related.
I’d always thought that Abby looks more like Trixie Tang from The Fairly Oddparents than Boo
@@MustacheCashStash125 Yeah, me too.
@@MustacheCashStash125 why'd you comment that twice
@@boozonggy I didn’t
@@MustacheCashStash125 you commented that a few times on different comments
This theory makes sense until we get into the characters’ names and ethnicities. People have said that Boo is actually named Mary, after her VA, and she’s of Hispanic descent. Abby is Korean-Canadian. And the Witch in Brave is a white Scottish old woman. Three different ethnicities. But! Here’s another plausible theory. What if they’re all from the same family tree? Families can have many different heritages. The Witch could be an old, old, old ancestor to Boo and Abby while the girls are related in a different way such as being cousins. That would explain their similar features.
A bit off topic, but Mary being Hispanic makes a lot of sense.
When my older sister (who is also Hispanic) was little, she was the spitting image of Boo. Dark brown hair, brown/black eyes, heck they even shared the same face and she would regularly wear a pink t-shirt.
if u pay attention to the kids rooms in monsters inc you can see disneyland opening posters, so its set sometime in the 1950s in the human world. so this would not work
Maybe, maybe not
The oldest poster that appeared in MI is from 1967. Boo is a toddler, so she can't use those attractions and she also does not decorate her room by herself. The posters belonged to her parents who must be kids at that time (around 8-14 years old). According to these Boo is 80' - 90' kid.
@@Nikolej100 no no things in picar universe are different so it's possible that disbey stuff happened a bit later.
Watch monsters at work
@@Orto-jj2di I will check Monsters at work, but the 1967 poster heng in Monsters univers, when in children's bedrooms hangs posters from 1952-1958. So monsters are in the future (plus 10 years?) . You may be right. I'm just curious how does it work. Because it means that between monsters and humans could be 10 years gap. Which is really interesting fact.
@@Nikolej100 maybe boo has a sister
I saw a theory weeks ago that Boo is the mother of Abby. Later, I saw a theory that she's Boo's sister. I'm not sure which one is more solid, but they're both good to watch.
boo was a toddler in the 50s (every poster in her room is from the 50s) and abby is in middle school in the 2000's
@@AnnaMae41194 meaning, based on the theory (again, not mine; just one I had heard), that Boo would have had Abby in 1989, making Boo in her late forties/early fifties, by the start of the movie.
@@charleslee8313 yes we know that mary (boo) was a toddler in the 50's becasue of the disneyland posters in her room.
I honestly think that boo is Abby's grandmother bc the witch in brave is like- a celestial being or smth idk
@@AnnaMae41194 appearantly MI takes place in the 1999s.
I can see her as a big sister, not Boo herself
I don't see that at all.
I’d always thought that Abby looks more like Trixie Tang from The Fairly Oddparents than Boo
They aren’t the same person, but turning red put a Easter egg which was putting boos door design on Abby’s overalls
Pixar states that Boo is two years old during the events of Monsters Inc. They also state that the events of Monsters Inc takes place in 1999.
The events of Turning Red take place in 2002. (Mae and her friends are around 13).
In 2002 that would put Boo at only 5 years old. Dismantling any and all theories they are the same person.
Wait, if her entire goal in learning magic is to be reunited with Sully, I'm not sure this makes sense. Cuz at the end of Monsters Inc, they rebuild Boo's door and when Sully opens it, you can hear Boo say "Kitty!"
So she already WAS reunited with Sully. I wouldn't put it past Sully to keep the door and visit Boo every now and then as she grew up, so why would she learn magic to reunite with Sully if he was probably already making regular visits?
Yeah all most of these theories are a huge stretch.
The reason I could see Boo as Abby is also because we know that Boo had wanted to find Sully for a long time and perhaps when she was able to talk, her parents convinced her that Sully wasn't real nor were magic doors or magic in general due to Boo being the only human to see the monster world. Since its suspected in theory that Boo was Hispanic, perhaps then her family moved to Canada to try to get away from the parental avoidance to the magic. Upon discovering Mei was a magically changing panda, not only would Mei's panda size be similar to Sullys as would the fur texture, perhaps Abby now realizes that she wasn't delusional about Sullys existence because not only is she seeing Mei being a magic panda, so is everyone else around her confirming that the magic IS in fact real which reignited her fire to find Sully since she now realizes it wasn't something made up. That being said, that could have started a life long obsession to finding the monster world again using magic leading to the time travel we see with the Witch in Brave. Also remember, the Witch in Brave was going out of town on business when Merida was going to search for her so who knows what that Witch was really up to during that time.
There's only one problem with this: Abby is Korean. At least I think she is. Either Korean or Asian
@@inkcat1379 Well it was only suspected that she might be hispanic however i personally thought that she wasnt
Abby is older than Boo
Abby’s not Hispanic, she’s Korean
@@inkcat1379 Yes she is Korean and Koreans are Asian
One little flaw is there about the Monsters-timetravel-part. After they have to destroy the door on Sully's first shown shift on duty. Waterloose says something like "Kids these days don't get scared that easily. if they can travel through time, why don't they travel to a time when kids where easier to scare?
"Boo" sounds like a nickname for "Abby"
The reaction of Abby is more like Agnes Gru when Gru won the unicorn at the fair, and Abby is Korean...
I doubt it for one reason. Boo's real name is confirmed. And her real name is not Abby. Her real name is Mary.
Mary is the voice actor plays boo
Here's another reason for you. Boo's earlobes are detached, and Abby's earlobes are attached. That's not something that a person can just change.
@@renakawaiichan actually there is a surgery that can connect ears back to the head.
@@SageTheEnby0 but is that common?
@@renakawaiichan actually yes, shockingly.
When boo is showing sully her toys, she picks up a Jessie doll! So it has to be around the same time as the first toy story at least
Second Toy Story. Jessie was introduced in the second one.
@@Lillyluvsanime Actually it could be from before both Toy story movies. We learn from Toy Story 2 (which is set on the Pixar timeline as taking place in 1997) when Jessie is introduced that they all are part of a toy collection "Woody's Roundup" that comes from a tv show. When we meet Jessie there is a scene that shows all this merchandising from the fanatic collector and there is a Life magazine with woody on the cover titled "Children's Television Saturday's Favorite Cowboy 'Woody'" and the magazine is dated Jan 12, 1957.
The toys are at least this old, likely even older!
In other words, just because we are introduced to characters in a movie doesn't mean they come from that exact time. We have to look at when they were around within their own movie's timeline before seeing if they match up with any other movie :)
Also, it's a Jessie doll, but likely not the Jessie we know from TS. Just like Woody, it could have been a hand-me-down
That doesn’t make sense whatsoever. The jessie doll was introduced in the 50’s. So she could be living way before the first toy story movie for all we know.
I still think Boo was the girl from Sunnyside that we see in Toy Story 3.
The witch from Brave being Boo sounds somewhat plausible at first, since her name isn't mentioned in the movie. Except she does more than teleport through a door. It's pretty clear she has additional powers that wouldn't be obtained just by going to the monster world. We might see monsters with strange features, but not magical/witchy powers. And, it's very clear in Monsters Inc. that ALL doors lead to somewhere on Earth, only - evidenced by the map on the scare floor. Based on Boo's room and other rooms we see, I think it's safe to say Earth in Monsters Inc. isn't as magical as the stuff we see in Brave.
Violet being Boo is also a bit of a stretch. The only evidence really supporting it at first is that the timelines appear similar (but they aren't). Boo is also said to look very similar to Violet, but when you look closer, her hair and eyes are both dark brown. Violet's hair is blue-black with purplish eyes. Maybe this is a side-effect of her powers, but even then, I feel Incredibles 2 debunked the possibility of Boo being Violet with Jack-Jack. Behind the scenes, Boo's real name was confirmed as Mary. While Violet could be a superhero name like Frozone, the Incredibles call Frozone by his real name (Lucius), and I assume they would do the same for Violet since she's family.
Abby being Boo seems about as likely as the witch being Boo. While they have similar color pallets and near-exact appearances (hair/eye color wise), Abby is a completely different ethnicity than Boo (Boo is confirmed to be Hispanic). Same applies to the witch. The biggest factor aside from that are the issues with timelines. Incredibles takes place in the 1960s, Monsters Inc. takes place in 1999, while Turning Red takes place in 2002.
This means if Boo is Violet, she would be in her 40s in Turning Red. Clearly not Abby's age, which is 13. Boo is 2 in Monster's Inc. So she would be 5 during the events of Turning Red. Brave takes place hundreds of years before any of these movies, and I feel it would be a stretch to say Boo somehow got powers in the modern era and went back in time. Even if there are supers in the Monsters' Inc. version of Earth, they would be in hiding, so there's no plausible way for her to learn or take powers from someone else. At best, Boo could travel around the world using doors, but not through time. Although, more realistically, monsters probably wouldn't let a human into their world for some time. Even if Boo is shown not to be dangerous in the monster world, Roz states that she can't be allowed to stay.
It's most likely Boo is the girl we see in Sunnyside. Toy Story 3 is set in 2007, which would make Boo 10 - about the right age for the butterfly room. Their appearances are also the most similar, as they both have brown hair and eyes. A name for the girl hasn't been confirmed, nor has her ethnicity, but there isn't any strong evidence to oppose that she and Boo are the same person.
tl;dr: All the theories related to Boo being a certain character seem like a stretch, except for the theory that Boo is the girl from Sunnyside in Toy Story 3.
Problem with the timetravel Monsters Inc theory is a line that goes something about how kids are no longer scared as easily because of movies or something.
As far as Boo trying to be reunited with Sulley, the end of Monsters Inc. suggests that she was.
In my opinion, I think boo is abby’s little sister, you had a great theory though!
or that was Sully's ancestor on that carving?
Her eyes and seeing the flower on her overalls like boo's door made me think of the connection immediately.
Boo was Violet, Boo was the sunnyside daycare girl, Boo was the witch from brave, now Boo is Abby. 🤔
I think that the scary girl from turning red it the old witch in brave.
Boo being Violet is still my headcanon.
Maybe you haven’t heard but the director of Turning Red debunked this theory
Boo and Abby are not the same person because in Monsters Inc Boo clearly writes her name in one of her drawings and her name it says Mary not Abby. Mary as a toddler and Abby as a teenager? 🤔🤨🥱 make it make sense.
When I was 4, I decided that I would change my name to Sherry. It was the name of a girl in my neighborhood. I thought she was so pretty and nice that I wanted to be just like her. I started dressing like her, acting like her, and even writing the name Sherry in place of my own name.
What's one of Abby's best friends name? Miriam. That's a kind of hard name for a toddler to say, let alone write. But you know what would be easier? Mary. Or maybe Miriam is the one who drew the picture and gave it to her friend, Abby. And Abby wanted it on her wall.
@@tonigalvan2005 So, Boo changed her lastname too? Abby's is Park while Boo's is Gibbs
@@mental_decay_ ok so maybe another friend named Mary Gibbs drew the picture and gave it to her. We probably shouldn't assume it was Boo that wrote it in the first place. She could barely talk in Monster's Inc. Why do we think she could write her name?
@@tonigalvan2005 she can write in the movie.
Well then if Turning Red is set in 2002, and Monsters Inc was released in 2001, then Abby could well be Boo(Mary)’s older sister
Or, and stay with me here, Abby is an original character written by a different writer. I know, I know, everything has to be connected.
Boos door was white with flowers, they even call that out in monsters in, so it doesn't match her overalls in that that regard but it still fits
Interesting... although the creators said they are not the same character. See Boo's name is revealed to be Mary, the name can be seen it in some of her drawings when she is asking Sully to shut the closet door.
Also Monsters Inc. takes place in 2001 while Turning Red takes place in 2002. A 2 year old can't suddenly turn 14.
Lastly, Abby is Korean-Canadian, where as Mary is not Korean and I am pretty sure she might me American.
"American" lol anyone can be American these days.
@@cyttoraknz8622 I say American, meaning Boo lives in America. Abby lives in Canada, which makes her Canadian.
@@paschameleon yeah, but they could've moved to canada
@@chiarra644 true… although that doesn’t change the fact that both movies take place, roughly the same time.
And I’m pretty sure that Boo(Mary) is Australian
These theories are really reaching lol. Abby and Boo are *NOT* the same person. The animation style for one is completely different, plus I'm sure each story takes place in different parts of the world. Pixar just likes to mess around and make us think the stories are connected but they are not.
While I agree they are not the same person, the fact that they take place in different parts of the world is not a good reason as to why not. They could have just easily moved in those 10 years
Captain Carter in What if… and Doctor Strange: and the Multiverse of Madness are the same person despite one being animated, and one being live action, so animation style isn’t a significant argument
@@chiarra644 the animation style is not a good reason either
Its about the lore not style
It’s Boo, stop ✋🛑
i was so excited about this but… monster’s inc takes place in 2001, turning red takes place in 2002 😭
That's why there have been a lot theory's that boo might be Abby's younger sister maybe because given that monster's Inc And Turing Red are not that far apart
Ns 67 😮 i love that even more
@@cherishlaee well if you live that I got a few RUclipsrs that have done a few theory's on boo and Abby Here they are Issac Carlson flicks and city super carlin brothers they do very good videos about boo and Abby see for yourself
i think it might still be possible if we are stilling going of the time traveling thing.
@@horrorgirl3034 it's possible that boo return back in time to see Sully again check out Issac Carlson and super carlin brothers and flicks and city about boo training back in time
ok so the theory of the old witch from brave as an ancestor of abby/boo would have actually made more sense instead of time travel in this case
My theory is that Abby from Turning Red is actually Boos daughter! Since Boo was 3 in 1950, and Abby was 13 in 2002
@@ashleylandsberg8679 none of these movies came out in 2002 or 1950, it’s been confirmed that they take place in these years
@@elletoki The 1950 theory is from the posters in a most of the kid's rooms being posters advertising the opening of Disney Land. Which was around the early 1950's.
@@elletoki Also Turning Red out right says it's taking place in 2002
Boo is Hispanic. Abby is Korean
@@kittyphom we don't know that. As I kid I've assumed Boo was Korean
I think Boo is Violet from the Incredibles, since she's been good at disappearing at times!
Yeah idk about that 💀
Boo is Hispanic,
Abby is Korean,
And the Witch is Scottish…
Yeah what a logical theory.
4:25 showing a white door with flowers “do remember boo’s monsters, Inc. It was a purple door with flowers on it”
Maybe older sister since they are in the same time period 2001 and 2002. Boo looks up to her which is all the similarities.
They would have to be step or half. Boo's last name is Gibbs while Abby's is Park
I thought abby was boo's older sister but if 1950 is the right timeline then boo is either her mother or her older sister but you still had awesome points😊
Boo is Hispanic though (Plus her name is Mary) and Abby is Korean. Plus, the old witch is probably an outcast for her abilities, not because she's not from Scotland/time travelling.
i love how you always backup your theory with evidence you probably can write a very convincing opinion essay lol
It would make more sense to me if Abby is Boo’s daughter or Granddaughter. Tying both the fact Abby is Korean & Boo’s supposed real name is Mary & still being the witch from Brave.
If you do the math Boo would be about 5 in Turning Red but she could totally be Abby's sister
7:16 i just noticed that at the top of the skateboard is socks the robot cat from the new lightyear movie thats coming out soon.
Yeah no. It's been "proven" already that she's Andy's mom in the first Toy Story.
Lol pRoVeN
What? Where's the proof?
Well time does work differently with each door the director of monsters inc has stated that every door within the movie is actually a completely different universe which is actually badass
Boo's name is Mary. Her name is on the bottom of the page that she drew for Sully that she showed him when she was on his bed. Pixar did confirm that.
Mary is the voice actor plays boo
@@daringagged like I said, Pixar confirmed that they named Boo Mary bc that is the name of the yound child who voiced her.
I keep watching her make the same point (her liking the big red panda just like she liked Sully) over and over as though they are different points lol 😂
This a very good theroy to listen but here is the the thing right I have seen a lot of RUclipsrs break down this theory and apparently Monster's Inc takes place in 1998 so that mean boo will be about 2 Or 3 years old in monster's Inc in Turing Red she will be around 5 year's Old you can check out that theory On flicks and city RUclips channel
My issue with this theory is Boo's motivation for time travel and magic. At the end of MI, it's shown that Mike and Sully still have Boo's door, and it's implied somewhat that Sully can and likely continues to visit her. And considering that Mike and Sully have changed up the motive behind the organization they work at, there would be no reason for them to be prevented from continuing to visit her
I'll accept that Bo and Abby were one and the same, but Abby growing into a time traveling Witch and planting references to Sullie throughout history before settling down a thousand years ago is further than I'm willing to suspend disbelief. If the people who make movies and TV shows want to sneak in references to movies and shows they love, I don't need an in-universe explanation.
Sorry to say this but Abby from Turning Red is not Boo from Monsters Inc. I don't need to prove it cause the director/creator of Turning Red literally said that Abby is not an older Boo.
I could see her being Boos daughter more so than her being Boo time don’t match up, Boo would be old enough to be her mom at this point
At the end of the movie Monsters inc, Boo hands Sully a Jessie doll from "Toy Story 2" (made in 1999) and a Nemo squeaky toy (movie released in 2003) so I'm not sure it lines up for boo to be abby but is the witch in brave. Plus the movie producer says that Boo's name in the movie is Mary Gibbs (the name of the voice actor as well).
Fun theory, but I always thought the witch looks too different from Boo and even from Abby, no way that's the same person.
I’d always thought that Abby looks more like Trixie Tang from The Fairly Oddparents than Boo
@@MustacheCashStash125 yeah thats cuz boo aint asian
I feel like the doors could teleport to a different time, as if I remember correctly, when they got trapped with the Yeti the door they went through didn't lead to a bedroom, it led to the middle of nowhere is a cold snowy place, but I could be wrong in remembering, as I haven't watched the movie in maybe 15 years. Despite some holes in the theory, I do love the theory on it. Great video.
It could be simply the designer copied the design 🤦.
There’s a short made with the older witch traveling to Monsters Inc. Universe and ends up visiting Sulley’s Grave. It’s a sad moment and shows a hidden flashback of the two of them back when she was a kid the last time she saw him before he closed the door.
abby is boos kid the timelines dont line up for them to be the same person. boo was a kid in the 50s, where abby is a kid in the early 2000's. but yes the theory that boo becomes the witch is widely accepted.
7:17 now that we're talking about stickers on a skateboard, the same skateboard has not only the Sid t-shirt skull but also the cat from lightyear. I can't make out the other stickers though
But boos real name is Mary, not Abby.
So far they thought Violet from Incredibles was her now this girl from turning red I believe this one just because they look a lot alike and both have flowers
In Monsters inc they show a piece of paper with Boo's real name and it's Mary not Abby.
Not only the time of boo but it says IN HER PROFILE she’s HISPANIC in mister inc and not Korean
Unfortunately it's only a fan Theory. But if the events of turning red happened before monster Incorporated, it would make sense on why monsters are afraid of children. Just imagine a monster trying to scare a child and it randomly magically transforms into an big animal, that would have a reason for the rules. Maybe a few monsters got hurt by these magically transforming children.
There are also some theories that Abby is Boo’s older sister
I knew someone agreed with me on this!
Maybe, Boo's real name is Abby, and she couldn't tell Mike and Sully at the time of "Monster's Inc" as she hadn't fully developed speech yet. Interesting theory that the door leads into Abby's childhood room in Toronto in the "main" world.
OR she could be using her middle name, some people do that if their parents' name is the same. My mom does that too. So she could be using her middle name, Mary Abigail "Abby" whatever, lol
Interesting theory. I could be wrong but I don't think it was mentioned that the location of Boo was in Toronto. That's where turning red takes place.
You’re right, SpongeBob! We are kids!
i watched this movie once for a reason why is this on my recommended?
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I can buy that Boo and Abby are really close to being the same character but the witch from Brave?
No I’m not believing that, I think folks are overthinking this stuff.
I mean there just easter eggs
Boo/Mary Gibbs was only in Monsters Inc but her voice recordings was used to voice Riley from Inside Out so in a strange way Boo is Riley.
This falls apart fir several reasons I won't bother with but one of which is the magic idea. Boo wouldn't need magic to reunite with sulley and you'd know that if you paid any attention to the movie. Also Abbey and boo have about as much in common as they have in common with just little girl stereo types. Flowers that's your evidence to female characters are the same person. Flowers and the color pink? Yeah not convinced at all
this... is freaking adorable
But... T-their names...
I bet Disney is having a field day that up to this day people are still obsessed about Boo
One thing that makes this theory even better is that boo sounds like a nickname so her real name could had been Abby or maybe her real name is boo I forgot it’s been a while since I watch the monster inc movie
7:18 and socks from light year wait TOY STROY IS IN THIS UNIVERSE AND ANDY :0
She's at best a nod and a wink back to Monster's Inc, but not the character herself.
Abby freaked out when she first saw melin as a red panda
I always thought boo was violet from incredibles and then magic lady from brave
the old witch whose name i forgot is also obsessed with bears who have a very furry coat
Not only can this be proven wrong by her name being Marry in connon. But she also has toys of other pixar movies from the time, that throw the time line away
Would make sense, except that Boo’s canonical name is “Mary Gibbs”.
i think, just like a lot of the HP theories that were later "confirmed" by Rowling, that the studio, and artists created several different stories but hid easter eggs in them as nods to their other works, but as fan theories gained traction, they realized how much deeper it seemed to make their works, so they completely retconned them and said "well that was never our intent, but it works, so yeah it's canon now."
There’s one major thing that really hurts the theory. That would be the years and ages. Monsters inc takes place in the summer of 1999 and Turning Red takes place in 2002. Boo would not be the age that Abby is.
I will say Im not sure if Monster inc takes place in the future. As its a separate world from the human world. They do often talk about, The monster world, and the human world separately. Its why the monsters feel safe cause there is no risk of contact with humans- and human children, unless you work at monsters inc of course. So in theory the monster Inc world may or may not aline with the human world in regards to technological advances. The monster world and the human world could be moving in their own parallel universes at there own pace with its own history, time line of events, and the only contact we see with the human world is when they go through the human door portals in the first and second monster inc and university movies. I don't necessarily believe that The monsters would have much of a desire to time travel at all as they don't seem to much have a need. The company would likely only want to improve the technology thats needed for the scare program. The necessary components being- we can make doors in the monster universe that match up with the doors they need to portal and travel through in order to collect scream energy. Since the world was powered by scream energy, I feel like they wouldn't wanna waste any extra precious energy on endeavors that don't have a super practical reason. Since its considered a dangerous job to collect screams and be a scarer.
Though on a separate note- prehaps in a different part of the monster universe there is a separate company or something that do experimental science that could maybe include time travel if they felt it was important to do so. But not sure even in that hypothetical they would wanna apply that to the scare program and the doors as it would add even more risky unpredictable factors and dangers to the job.
Abby and Boo definitely have some similarities for sure in looks color palette.
But feel like there personalities don't quite match up to same extent and energy. I feel like if boo was abby, she would have been a bit more chaotic and wayyyy more hyper and much harder to control.
Boo has a sweet, bubbly, cute, happy, but yet calm nature. She does get emotional like kids do as well.
Abby has the sweet, happy, bubbly, cute factors but isn't exactly matching up with the calmer sides of boos personality. Abby is I think much more extra, hyper, and much more vocal and loudly expressive.
Kids do of course change but I feel like boo's personality would evolve and grow and change in a much different way. A More subtle way in my most humble opinion. They go have similar traits in loyalty and such. Definitely don't see them as possible versions of the same character as I feel its a bit reaching
I do very much believe Abby could be in boos family though as a older sister or cousin as that to me would make alot of sense. Especially if they are close their styles could very much rub off on each other and boo could have learned how to be more aggressive from abby when it finally mattered the most. Which we don't see til the end of the movie cause she seems to be more gentle in nature. But if she felt she needed to protect or stand up for herself her first thought would be how she seen Abby handle things.
Either way this video is very well made and well thought out. Love hearing about the different theories as I haven't heard this before, and glad Im able to give some of my own thoughts! They could be incorrect as well, but just what I feel.
Thank you and hope your all having a lovely day.
Abby is Boo's daughter
Imagine if this was true...
It's pretty much true because of the design of her clothes and Boo's door.
About the timing boo is playing with a character of toys story 2, now it became famous because of the movie(in our world) but in their world it was only familiar because of an old cowboy show from 1990’s ….so giving you an aprox year.
Says there’s a star command logo on the skateboard but doesn’t acknowledge sids t shirt skull is the board itself
y o u r e a l i z e d .
The monster world is set in the 90s. It's on Mike's folder for the kid they are set to scare in the beginning. And if you look at the kids rooms these monster's are going in you'll see the posters for the Disneyland grand opening. Which was in the 50s. Boo would be much older in 2002
I’d always thought that Abby looks more like Trixie Tang from The Fairly Oddparents than Boo
…and let’s face it, Pat.
It be funny the actress who voiced Abby was actually the same little girl who voiced Boo.
Or they’re sisters
Fun fact boos hair was put into pigtails because it was easier to trace and everything than do what they wanted which was long ish hair like Abby. So Boo could literally be Abby but it's because they couldn't put the hair they wanted at the time so they had to put pigtails.
Pretty sure there's a whole video on the 1990's to now about the human designs like from 1995 toy story all of the characters are blocky but the newer version is barely blocky. (plus it goes into, oh they got humans let's see if they can do skeletons, oh they can do skeletons let's try bugs, oh they can do bugs let's try snails. Yk so on so forth.
I think this is a great theory btw I saw the pixel ball in boos room and went boo picks up a doll its a Jessie doll at least I think
The Jessie doll is on the little table hey was boo Jessies old owner but they don't look the same :0
The thing is tho Turning red was placed in the 2000s so boo wouldn’t be the age Abby is
It has to be. Abby isn't afraid of anything, just like boo. Not Taco Bell, not McDonald's, not Burger King, not China Star Buffet, not Popeyes, not KFC, she has conquered everything, nothing scares her.