I'm flexible I like the content so am gonna watch either way. A nice think about this one long is it easier for me to follow along as was working on the gearbox start to finish. Taken out, taken apart, cleaned refurbished, put together. At some point I think youtube gives you analytics which helps you see what your viewers are actually doing.
I think that it all depends on the task in hand. Some can be sorted in 30 mins. Some make take an hour. But its better to complete a job in a slightly longer vid. That do a part 2 of 15 mins to finish. If its a bigger job. Well it gets split up. No problem with video content. Its all very interesting stuff.
@@tinkeringwithtanks HaHa its many years ago now. I was working in the military repair section, this was in the basement of the Chieftain assembly department which i also worked in. It was after the ( not quite sure here) 6 day war or the yom kippur war. A load of Centurion gearboxes arrived. All were caked in sand and labeled as earth moving gearboxes;-)) I think the government were trying to keep the refurbs under the radar. There were 4 of us in the department, i can still remember the names an faces now. As was DB practise they were stripped down to the last component, and i mean everything. Dropped into a aeration tank of Gunk and left for 24hrs. Then washed of and everything was inspected. Bit hazy but i think about 3 weeks for the rebuild. Interesting gearbox. Of course the Chieftain gearbox TN 12 was in full swing at the time. Again still remember names and faces in that dept.It was said the fellow that designed the Chieftain box went mad as he couldn't work out why it could do what is called a Neutral steer, I think that could be an urban myth. By this time well out of my apprenticeship and along came the TN 37 fully auto box. I worked on the test and development from day one. Many stories about that part of my life. Not sure if you know the TN37 was never built for the British army. It was funded entirely by the Shar of Iran. All the Manufacturing machines of which there were many all had brass plaques saying it was the property of Iran. The name of the tank was going to be Shir-1 and later became the Khalid for Jordan. but after the downfall of the Shar every thing came to a halt for many months, even lay offs of some of the work force. Anyway i think I've bored you enough.
Super there's more experience for you ! Like one piece video you can always skip forward or watch rest later , rather than waiting weeks maybe , thanks for sharing
I think this is only second the Centurion gearbox reconditioning I've seen. I don't remember them painting in the other one. Good content. Something to look forward to on Tuesday. Thanks.
Definitely approve of your long episode here. My one comment is that I wish you had filmed the interior of the steering drums,shape and condition of. That equalizer bar design is an elegant way to make twin leading shoe work. Never seen it before. I had a racing four leading shoe drum setup on a 73 Yamaha motorcycle,many years ago. If they had engineered a similar arrangement,it would have actually worked instead of being lethal. Your video is well presented. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
Had a Bedford Light Recovery for many years and that took 600 treacle in the turntable and winch housings to protect the solid bronze gear wheels. Do not try pouring on a cold day or, bring sandwiches.
Well done! We did the same job on two Centurion transmissions some years ago. We had never done a repair like this before, as we, back in the days when the Centurions still were active in the Danish Army, just required and changed a defect transmission. We have all the original repair manuals, but it was some kind of learning by doing task. 🙂
Since you obviously do this hub rebuild often, it would be a good idea to make a couple of long studs to locate the bearing housing. Re the brake rebuild, have you thought about the galvanic incompatibility of the copper in that grease and steel components you are trying to lubricate? Anyway, great work and video chaps, very enjoyable. The long video is excellent as it saves having to hunt around on YT trying to find the next episode.
As REME attached to the 17th/21st Lancers We had those old ladies but at Squadron level as far as We went was box out and replacement in but those brakes date right back to the old Girling mechanical system on cars which apart from seizing up with rust were trouble free. On the Cent however, the drivers loved showing off with rapid stick changes ,locking a track and smacking it through which although it kept the drums clean ,the brake shoes wore more frequently. The nastiest job for Me was changing the first and last pair of inlet bank plugs with all the tools hanging from Yer neck ! Great site ,keep 'em movin' Please?
Great content and don’t mind longer videos as nice to see job from start to finish. Probably best not to put yourselves under pressure to ‘make’ longer videos, post what you can regardless of duration as I really enjoy your content 👍🏻
I think I would rather see you use a purpose built hook attachment on the forks rather than just a ring over the tang that looks dangerous if it slips. good video though
My Father had a 1956 Albion Claymore lorry which had brakes like that tank with twin leading shoes via an internal rod and lever system with single hydraulic cylinder but smaller the way the adjuster and shoes were centralised was by applying the brakes and at the same time winding the adjuster up, the releasing the brakes and adjusting again then reapplying the brakes. So I would think the same principle applies on the tank.
Yes like a long video. Great job guys I learnt a lot about steering brake rebuild . You must have a good memory on how to do these jobs. I couldn’t remember half of it after not doing it for a day or two. 👍👍👍👍
Excellent tutorial again. I think it is better to see item from start to finish but I suppose it is dependent upon your time schedule. Like your lifting bars when removing box and the wheeled carrier is good as well. Arte et Marte!
Many Thanks + I think your workshop videos are better, more information and more detailed than those I have watched of that 'other' tank museum (in Dorset). I'd be interested to know all sorts of things like can you still get new seals (manufactured as a small batch?) or if you are using new old stock seals that you (and others operating old tanks and fighting vehicles) will run out of one day? Are the thread Whitworth or UN or a mixture of both?. Not least, when you get chance, I'd be interested in a history of the museum from its early days to present day.
Twin leading shoe brake works better in one direction as both shoes lead on one side it also has a self servo action as shoes bite into drum. Single leading shoes like most older car rear brakes are less powerful but the same in both directions. This is useful for handbrake if you park on a hill facing up hill it should not roll back (they still do tho).
Years of old car british bikes and old land rovers have ment I learn the difference the hard way😅 good video tho hope you don't think am being negative.
Why did you coperslip the drum retaining bolts that in my opinion, I don’t need it but left the centralisation flange where the drum fits dry? Ps I didn’t see you put any silicone on the gasket, also I think hylomar would be better to seal the seal.
Whats everyone thoughts on the extra long video? - i was wondering if it was better than 2 / 3 parts?
I'm flexible I like the content so am gonna watch either way. A nice think about this one long is it easier for me to follow along as was working on the gearbox start to finish. Taken out, taken apart, cleaned refurbished, put together. At some point I think youtube gives you analytics which helps you see what your viewers are actually doing.
Long or short in multiple parts works for me, or a mixture with the occasional long one (job/task dependant).
I think that it all depends on the task in hand. Some can be sorted in 30 mins. Some make take an hour. But its better to complete a job in a slightly longer vid. That do a part 2 of 15 mins to finish. If its a bigger job. Well it gets split up. No problem with video content. Its all very interesting stuff.
I do like the start to finish format but to be fair any of your videos are great, always look forward to Tuesdays!
Yes I liked it thank you
As an apprentice at David Browns i spent many hours refurbishing these gearboxes in the early 70s. Happy days;-))
Having seen some of the parts diagrams, as far as I’m concerned your some form of magician. Any knowledge you have would be much appreciated.
@@tinkeringwithtanks HaHa its many years ago now. I was working in the military repair section, this was in the basement of the Chieftain assembly department which i also worked in. It was after the ( not quite sure here) 6 day war or the yom kippur war. A load of Centurion gearboxes arrived. All were caked in sand and labeled as earth moving gearboxes;-)) I think the government were trying to keep the refurbs under the radar.
There were 4 of us in the department, i can still remember the names an faces now. As was DB practise they were stripped down to the last component, and i mean everything. Dropped into a aeration tank of Gunk and left for 24hrs. Then washed of and everything was inspected. Bit hazy but i think about 3 weeks for the rebuild. Interesting gearbox. Of course the Chieftain gearbox TN 12 was in full swing at the time. Again still remember names and faces in that dept.It was said the fellow that designed the Chieftain box went mad as he couldn't work out why it could do what is called a Neutral steer, I think that could be an urban myth.
By this time well out of my apprenticeship and along came the TN 37 fully auto box. I worked on the test and development from day one. Many stories about that part of my life.
Not sure if you know the TN37 was never built for the British army. It was funded entirely by the Shar of Iran. All the Manufacturing machines of which there were many all had brass plaques saying it was the property of Iran. The name of the tank was going to be Shir-1 and later became the Khalid for Jordan. but after the downfall of the Shar every thing came to a halt for many months, even lay offs of some of the work force.
Anyway i think I've bored you enough.
Super there's more experience for you ! Like one piece video you can always skip forward or watch rest later , rather than waiting weeks maybe , thanks for sharing
I think this is only second the Centurion gearbox reconditioning I've seen. I don't remember them painting in the other one. Good content. Something to look forward to on Tuesday. Thanks.
Definitely approve of and enjoy more, these longer videos!
Definitely approve of your long episode here. My one comment is that I wish you had filmed the interior of the steering drums,shape and condition of. That equalizer bar design is an elegant way to make twin leading shoe work. Never seen it before. I had a racing four leading shoe drum setup on a 73 Yamaha motorcycle,many years ago. If they had engineered a similar arrangement,it would have actually worked instead of being lethal.
Your video is well presented. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
Another great vid fellas! Now I know how to strip and adjust centurion steering brakes, marvellous!
Even better, why not 2/3 long videos? Good content so make more please. Looking forward to more. Cheers
Had a Bedford Light Recovery for many years and that took 600 treacle in the turntable and winch housings to protect the solid bronze gear wheels. Do not try pouring on a cold day or, bring sandwiches.
Well done! We did the same job on two Centurion transmissions some years ago. We had never done a repair like this before, as we, back in the days when the Centurions still were active in the Danish Army, just required and changed a defect transmission. We have all the original repair manuals, but it was some kind of learning by doing task. 🙂
Great videos very interesting good details 👍👍
Since you obviously do this hub rebuild often, it would be a good idea to make a couple of long studs to locate the bearing housing. Re the brake rebuild, have you thought about the galvanic incompatibility of the copper in that grease and steel components you are trying to lubricate? Anyway, great work and video chaps, very enjoyable. The long video is excellent as it saves having to hunt around on YT trying to find the next episode.
As REME attached to the 17th/21st Lancers We had those old ladies but at Squadron level as far as We went was box out and replacement in but those brakes date right back to the old Girling mechanical system on cars which apart from seizing up with rust were trouble free. On the Cent however, the drivers loved showing off with rapid stick changes ,locking a track and smacking it through which although it kept the drums clean ,the brake shoes wore more frequently. The nastiest job for Me was changing the first and last pair of inlet bank plugs with all the tools hanging from Yer neck ! Great site ,keep 'em movin' Please?
Interesting video. Thank you for sharing, from a new subscriber from just down the road.
Great content and don’t mind longer videos as nice to see job from start to finish. Probably best not to put yourselves under pressure to ‘make’ longer videos, post what you can regardless of duration as I really enjoy your content 👍🏻
Love you guys. Love what you do 👍🏻
Owning two Centurions, I appreciate these detailed videos.
I think I would rather see you use a purpose built hook attachment on the forks rather than just a ring over the tang that looks dangerous if it slips. good video though
Really informative and helpful. Waiting for the magneto hopefully you’ll be able to explain this magic box of electric to us’
Enjoyed video. Interesting the detail that you cover.
Thanks for sharing, enjoyed the extended video
My Father had a 1956 Albion Claymore lorry which had brakes like that tank with twin leading shoes via an internal rod and lever system with single hydraulic cylinder but smaller the way the adjuster and shoes were centralised was by applying the brakes and at the same time winding the adjuster up, the releasing the brakes and adjusting again then reapplying the brakes. So I would think the same principle applies on the tank.
Excellent video, film whatever you are doing, long or short...we watch them all !
Fantastic great vid from start to finish really interesting😊
Yes like a long video. Great job guys I learnt a lot about steering brake rebuild . You must have a good memory on how to do these jobs. I couldn’t remember half of it after not doing it for a day or two. 👍👍👍👍
Absolutely superb, keep up the good work
Thanks for going into the detail. I don’t think longer videos are an issue, people can always pause & return if they want to.
Excellent tutorial again. I think it is better to see item from start to finish but I suppose it is dependent upon your time schedule. Like your lifting bars when removing box and the wheeled carrier is good as well. Arte et Marte!
Great video, the extra long episode I like very much .
Thanks to Mr Hewes for introducing me to Tinkering with Tanks. Subscribed.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for subscribing :)
Great step by step account, and also great team work , could you tell me what solution do you use for your ultrasonic cleaner 😊
Many Thanks + I think your workshop videos are better, more information and more detailed than those I have watched of that 'other' tank museum (in Dorset). I'd be interested to know all sorts of things like can you still get new seals (manufactured as a small batch?) or if you are using new old stock seals that you (and others operating old tanks and fighting vehicles) will run out of one day? Are the thread Whitworth or UN or a mixture of both?. Not least, when you get chance, I'd be interested in a history of the museum from its early days to present day.
Twin leading shoe brake works better in one direction as both shoes lead on one side it also has a self servo action as shoes bite into drum.
Single leading shoes like most older car rear brakes are less powerful but the same in both directions. This is useful for handbrake if you park on a hill facing up hill it should not roll back (they still do tho).
Years of old car british bikes and old land rovers have ment I learn the difference the hard way😅 good video tho hope you don't think am being negative.
Did your beard have a part in Game of Thrones? I’m sure I recognise it from somewhere
who'd a thunk it, Cent steered by Rover P5 rear Brakes🤣
Why did you coperslip the drum retaining bolts that in my opinion, I don’t need it but left the centralisation flange where the drum fits dry?
Ps I didn’t see you put any silicone on the gasket, also I think hylomar would be better to seal the seal.
What do you use for a parts cleaner?
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