I have been diagnosed with both and borderline is the more stigmatizing and stigmatized one in my experience. Thank you for addressing the shakiness of the term personality disorder. It's very hurtful to hear that your personality is disordered and wrong and that your problems are so deep they are part of your personality. The psychologist who diagnosed me noted the instability of identity. To me it makes sense now, because how can my identity be stable when I cycle between two extremes and change my personality each time? The psychiatrist who knows me for longest thinks I have bipolar and it helps me more to accept it and treat it that way. Psychotherapy hasn't helped and the mood swings last for months and seem to be inevitable.
Thank you for this. It would be helpful if you could use diagrams or charts to show the differences as you're speaking about them. Trying to keep up with all the terminology and symptoms (especially since the names of the two diagnoses are similar-sounding) is difficult when just listening to a verbal explainer, but the combination of the two would be ideal
Do you have a video on the differences from "quiet" Boarderline PD and typical BPD. I have BPD and I sometimes read about quiet BPD although I'm not sure if it's recognized as an actual disorder on its own but I find it's traits resonate more with me. Which may be in line with my C-ptsd. I still experience the intense anger and impulsively along with many other things but I tend to always take it out on myself or do things reckless to myself than put my feelings on others. I was just wondering if there was even enough of a difference for the two for it to matter.
Thanks again, and for clarifying the environmental vs biological aspects. I had a feeling that was the case, I have so many stories of people I've run into over the years in my psychiatric journeys that get these two conflated and they're unfortunately misdiagnosed. Idk, I had sexual abuse occur as well but I've never cut myself or done anything like that and I've always been confortable in my unique self-image... however I do have a branding on my left shoulder in the shape of a heart that I did when I was super manic in high school. That was a nice two weeks of me doing standup comedy at the high school Coffee Houses we had, being the class clown to the Nth degree and being accused by my Christian mother of taking speed - to which I'd reply "God's far closer to me than he ever will be to you"... then I'd sob, run up to my room and clean while blasting Butthole Surfers or Syd Barrett. It's scary how it feels though, no matter how funny or awesome people think I am when I'm like that and what's far scarier is the fact that what goes up must come down... and how being insulin affects these natural states I have. It's like an amplifier and it pisses me off.
Could you make a strong association with PTSD (complex type?) and BPD? That is usually my differential when I am torn between someone that is bipolar and borderline PD. And, of course, not saying they are mutually exclusive.
PTSD would be in the differential here, but there are distinct differences between PTSD and bipolar disorder and for that matter borderline as well so separating those should not be too bad. To separate borderline and PTSD they would have a history of trauma in each case but I think sexual abuse is more common in borderline and self-injurious behavior is not as common in PTSD those would be a few key things to look for. I also think borderline has more impulsivity and anger associated with it which are not common in PTSD. Sense of threat, avoidance and re-experiencing are not part of the borderline criteria so those could be key to distinguish it as well. But this is a good point about the complexity of making an accurate diagnsois
There is a high genetic load to BPD. There’s substantial research for that thanks to Dr John Gunderson. Dr Marsha Linehan has noted that both suicidal behaviors and self harm serve to regulate emotion in people with BPD. The borderliner notes channel has great interviews with them and other scholars.
Doc : do BPD patients self talk all the time ? I’m noticing a family member that’s basically saying most of her thoughts out loud with out being aware of it .. specifically when something bothers her … thank u
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If you cant describe the presentation of a manic person vs that of someone with bipolar 2 or bpd - you dont have enough experience to be making videos informing the public abt psychiatric diagnoses
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I have been diagnosed with both and borderline is the more stigmatizing and stigmatized one in my experience. Thank you for addressing the shakiness of the term personality disorder. It's very hurtful to hear that your personality is disordered and wrong and that your problems are so deep they are part of your personality.
The psychologist who diagnosed me noted the instability of identity. To me it makes sense now, because how can my identity be stable when I cycle between two extremes and change my personality each time? The psychiatrist who knows me for longest thinks I have bipolar and it helps me more to accept it and treat it that way. Psychotherapy hasn't helped and the mood swings last for months and seem to be inevitable.
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I can see my BPD symptoms easier than when I’m in a manic episode. I have a video on my channel on how I found out I had bipolar.
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Thank you for this. It would be helpful if you could use diagrams or charts to show the differences as you're speaking about them. Trying to keep up with all the terminology and symptoms (especially since the names of the two diagnoses are similar-sounding) is difficult when just listening to a verbal explainer, but the combination of the two would be ideal
Outstanding 🎉🎉🎉🎉 especially over medication = wrong dx.
Borderline environmental + psychosocial stressors & Bipolar genetics & mania ❤❤❤
Do you have a video on the differences from "quiet" Boarderline PD and typical BPD. I have BPD and I sometimes read about quiet BPD although I'm not sure if it's recognized as an actual disorder on its own but I find it's traits resonate more with me. Which may be in line with my C-ptsd. I still experience the intense anger and impulsively along with many other things but I tend to always take it out on myself or do things reckless to myself than put my feelings on others. I was just wondering if there was even enough of a difference for the two for it to matter.
Great info. Thank you!
No problem I promise to keep getting better
I have both. I’m excited to listen to this video
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Thanks again, and for clarifying the environmental vs biological aspects. I had a feeling that was the case, I have so many stories of people I've run into over the years in my psychiatric journeys that get these two conflated and they're unfortunately misdiagnosed. Idk, I had sexual abuse occur as well but I've never cut myself or done anything like that and I've always been confortable in my unique self-image... however I do have a branding on my left shoulder in the shape of a heart that I did when I was super manic in high school. That was a nice two weeks of me doing standup comedy at the high school Coffee Houses we had, being the class clown to the Nth degree and being accused by my Christian mother of taking speed - to which I'd reply "God's far closer to me than he ever will be to you"... then I'd sob, run up to my room and clean while blasting Butthole Surfers or Syd Barrett. It's scary how it feels though, no matter how funny or awesome people think I am when I'm like that and what's far scarier is the fact that what goes up must come down... and how being insulin affects these natural states I have. It's like an amplifier and it pisses me off.
Could you make a strong association with PTSD (complex type?) and BPD? That is usually my differential when I am torn between someone that is bipolar and borderline PD. And, of course, not saying they are mutually exclusive.
PTSD would be in the differential here, but there are distinct differences between PTSD and bipolar disorder and for that matter borderline as well so separating those should not be too bad. To separate borderline and PTSD they would have a history of trauma in each case but I think sexual abuse is more common in borderline and self-injurious behavior is not as common in PTSD those would be a few key things to look for. I also think borderline has more impulsivity and anger associated with it which are not common in PTSD. Sense of threat, avoidance and re-experiencing are not part of the borderline criteria so those could be key to distinguish it as well. But this is a good point about the complexity of making an accurate diagnsois
@@ShrinksInSneakers 2 years later I reply lol but appreciate it!
There is a high genetic load to BPD. There’s substantial research for that thanks to Dr John Gunderson. Dr Marsha Linehan has noted that both suicidal behaviors and self harm serve to regulate emotion in people with BPD. The borderliner notes channel has great interviews with them and other scholars.
Doc : do BPD patients self talk all the time ? I’m noticing a family member that’s basically saying most of her thoughts out loud with out being aware of it .. specifically when something bothers her … thank u
The fact that the abbreviations are the same doesn’t help haha
They aren't. Bipolar is BD, Borderline is BPD.
the lack of eye contact with the camera is super distracting.
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He doesn't have to look me in the eye...that's weird. I like how he does it! The information is what I need
Mans ain't looking in the camera fr
If you cant describe the presentation of a manic person vs that of someone with bipolar 2 or bpd - you dont have enough experience to be making videos informing the public abt psychiatric diagnoses
He didn't say he couldn't, he just said he wasn't going to get into it on this video.