As a trim carpenter thier are a few in every trade that care...if you see this you most likely have yourself a contactor who's giving you a step above his competitors
Very good tip. A good show of craftsmanship. A clean work site. It seems your crew is always trying to better and speed up the process. Seconds add up.
@@DP-gb8quit’s takes very little time to pull out a camera to take some marketing footage. Also, some of us don’t expect our guys to hardcore physically exert themselves at all times and never slow down for a second, the fuck is wrong with y’all?
For those who missed it, they notched the tails going down through the floor because there was a joist under the wall, you can see the joint in the subfloor where the two pieces of subfloor break on a joist. I wish the trim carpenters that install stair post could do that, but by the time they come the drywall is in and they don’t have access to the joist below without opening a ceiling up. Seems like all newer houses have loose stair posts 5-10 years down the line.
@@shrimpinpatit quite very well could be a kitchen where they're going to put an island that will need power and maybe plumbing as well as a counter overhang.
@@johncampanaro9204yes you can. That’s what gives strength to steel studs when metal framing. That’s you off set the seams on either side of the metal studs. Just as how the sheathing is what holds the structure where it is so you can remove the braces. Typically you would brace one side, and after they Sheetrock the other side they can remove the brace. They still have to do that, it’s not plum in either direction unless you make it plum and is a brace to hold it there until it sheathed. You’re just wrong
When there's a half wall on the plan we leave a strip of plywood out and sister every floor joist with an upward for the wall. If the Joyce running the same direction as the wall we leave a bigger spot out exposing the 16 on each side and build a subframe in between them. Unmovably strong. I could 100% snap that little down tie going through the subfloor on your wall just by applying force on the top of the wall.
I still can't get used to seeing osb on floors. Every now and then I repair leaks on osb roofs, cdx is still salvageable most of the time, osb is dust under the shingles. Can't imagine these homes being livable in 40 years with everything sitting on chipboard, I guess time will tell
osb has come a long way. They inject so much resin into the osb it holds up really well. I prefer advantech for subfloor as it has 180 day exposure rating. cdx delaminates with any exposure to water.
@@sirdigzalot2976 maybe we'll live to see, it will be in others homes when I see it. I'm sure the lawyers have removed all the great toxins from the new stuff, all just a bunch of tech sheet data, really like every scrap use idea for the past 50 years
Very nicely done. Been a carpenter for close to 50 years, I remember when I was doing nothing else but framing and seeing this brings back memories so real I can smell the wood. Those were hard days working in 100 degrees sun tanning me, sweat pouring off me drenching me all before 8 am, boy do I miss those glorious days. Thanks for bringing me back there.
I was a carpenter for 26 years. Now in a truck driver. I miss them days too! I loved the smell of the pine wood, cedar wood. The sound of my saws! The joking around we boys would have!. Those were some great days!
No, but most over cut to take a corner out. The over cut is more than an inch causing a weak spot. This is not THAT complex of a technique anyway. Too much credit.
This is my favourite channel on RUclips!!! I use it to train my guys on how not to act at work and show them what not to do I you don’t wanna look like an idiot to the customer. Keep it up guys!!!!👍👍
I love it except for the overcut with the circular saw. That cut is right where any stresses will be, it would be better to have that corner cut clean.
bro had a square but used a chalkline to mark a 12 inch line? put the pencil on 2 3/4 and ride it down the board. That Milwaukee square has notches for this every 1/8th inch. Good tip otherwise tho.
Had a builder build a half wall for a bank of kitchen cabinets. He was so proud of it until I had to put tile on the countertop. It was half inch out of level.
Built a storage shed and the women's father wanted to pitch in. 4 hours to make a 12x12 square out of 2x4s. I figured theres no way it's not square for pouring. Shit came out a polygon. 😅
There should be some notches inside the square, at least on every inch line; stick your pencil tip in the notch and run the square and you have your line square to your edge *edit I now see you have a Milwaukee square with plenty of notches for ya
That's not a bad way to do, I usually double or triple up the ends or an end cut that bottom plate out the width of that post run it down and then block it off between the joists. It's a little more work but it's definitely solid
Jesus. This is great work. Too bad no one cares about that anymore. You guys deserve all of the work you get ✊🏾✊🏾. Such a clean job seeing it just slide in
That's been over cut on both ends, which weakness the wall. Oscillating saw would be great in this situation. Or use a spade bit to drill out the inside corner of the cut then use circular saw to cut up to the opening made by the spade bit... Or cut the opening big enough for the full 2x6
He compromised the subfloor by overcutting the holes with the circular saw, and had to have done the same to the joist in doing so as well, although one can't see the lines of having done so. The holes should have been completed with a jigsaw. It likely would have been just as easy, if not more so, to simply go below and tack on some blocking onto the joist, and the wall was already mostly over the joist anyway.
The best way was to make sure there was something in the floor joists to secure the bottom of the wall that was shoved through the floor. Otherwise it is just like any other without having to cut 2 holes in the floor for extra "hourly" charge.
Try putting a scrap piece of 2×12 in between the studs it will be rock solid if it's just nailed to the joist if You're doing a knee wall for a tile shower it's the only way to go
Building inspector walked right to the new island where a wall once was…, turned & said “that is one of the thinnest AND strongest islands I ever touched in a home”.
The player that cuts out the badge during the Euros will hold my upmost respect for years to come, though doubt any will due to the backlash of the weak of this country.
I don’t notch the studs of a pony wall, we notch the bottom plate to run a stud on the flat like a channel down onto a joist. If the joist are running perpendicular to the pony wall then we ensure every joist has a stud running down it in addition to 16” OC layout
Un carpintero hace muebles muy hermosos... Pero estos manes.manejan la sierra circular... muy increíble....cortes perfecto a mano alzada Algo complicado. es cuestión de mucha práctica
If there is a beam underneath the half wall I figured out to use exterior straps and attached them to both sides running below and getting attached to the beam below, holds way better and solves the loose wall way better.
I did use the nr83a my dad is all about passload I was helping him out between house we’re both framing contractors.. Long story there but sometimes I’ll have my crew help him and vice versa we both to 10k sf and up anyway I took the spring out of the passload of his I was using and holy crap so I switched all my framing nailed so much faster.. I just heard that dude using it to nail up that bar wall. And you always see dude run the end studs of those kitchen island walls I do it myself but real 9 times out of 10 there are lowers there so the cabinet it attached to the wall so realistically it serves no purpose running a stud down but like I said I do do that myself
And here we are in The Netherlands where everything is made of concrete, plaster bricks and more of that.😂 Wooden buildings do get build a lot quicker. But less sturdy then concrete.
Y’all should use 2x4 on interior little pony walls so you can save a little floor space. Obviously some houses are bigger than others but for single family or townhouses
I notch mine through the floor to. Send someone down to block it in for added support. And Dang it Bobby nail into the floor joist. No need to do a mag dump on a bottom plate if you just hit something solid not spraying and praying through subfloor.
For 40 years, this is the way I did it. Then box it in between the floor joist...rock solid....
No u didn't you just realized you should of done it this way 😂😂😂
@peoplesguardiantoscams7745 no this is what I always did.....
@@peoplesguardiantoscams7745 most will do it this way if they aren’t a hack
As a trim carpenter thier are a few in every trade that care...if you see this you most likely have yourself a contactor who's giving you a step above his competitors
@@peoplesguardiantoscams7745😂
Very good tip. A good show of craftsmanship. A clean work site. It seems your crew is always trying to better and speed up the process. Seconds add up.
By speed up you mean taking time to record videos at work lol
You are ignorant, this is bad workmanship with trash material. You sound like a libral
@@DP-gb8quit’s takes very little time to pull out a camera to take some marketing footage. Also, some of us don’t expect our guys to hardcore physically exert themselves at all times and never slow down for a second, the fuck is wrong with y’all?
@@bojanglesobrien6883it’s called sarcasm, don’t be so triggered
@@DP-gb8qunot sarcasm. You were being serious 😂 hater
For those who missed it, they notched the tails going down through the floor because there was a joist under the wall, you can see the joint in the subfloor where the two pieces of subfloor break on a joist. I wish the trim carpenters that install stair post could do that, but by the time they come the drywall is in and they don’t have access to the joist below without opening a ceiling up. Seems like all newer houses have loose stair posts 5-10 years down the line.
Correct point, but carpenters job is to do it right. Open drywall, if this is the case and do it as professional, not as a butcher.
Thanks Einstein...
Who woulda missed this? They showed and said exactly what was going on, kinda hard to miss isnt it?
@@warrenmichael918 obviously not you, you’re one smart fella. 🤣
Time to set the phone down.
I've been framing for 640 years, impressed by your craftsmanship, keep up the good work!
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640 years is impressive!
682 this september
2 weeks here. I'm waiting tell payday and I ain't coming back.
Then the homeowner says "let's open this room up, half walls are stupid"
100% why break up the floor space with permanent structure
It's just a waist of time and effort
So you cut them flush with the long blade on a sawzall. What's the issue? 🤷♂️
@@shrimpinpatit quite very well could be a kitchen where they're going to put an island that will need power and maybe plumbing as well as a counter overhang.
or top of stairs
That is actually a really good idea. Except the whole using a chaulkline for a 12" cut when you couldve juat used a square or a straightedge.
Hooah
🤡
That drove me nuts
@@shannonjustice7395can you show how to do that when the wall is parallel to the joist?
(Uses square or straight edge)
"You could've just used a chalk line"
Well done. Usually, they're leaning at an angle until the drywall goes on.
Nah usually they are just wobbly
You can never count on drywall to stiffen up a structure
Should be pretty plum if you block underneath
@@johncampanaro9204if you have a good sheetrocker they can actually stiffen up pretty well
@@johncampanaro9204yes you can. That’s what gives strength to steel studs when metal framing. That’s you off set the seams on either side of the metal studs. Just as how the sheathing is what holds the structure where it is so you can remove the braces. Typically you would brace one side, and after they Sheetrock the other side they can remove the brace. They still have to do that, it’s not plum in either direction unless you make it plum and is a brace to hold it there until it sheathed. You’re just wrong
When there's a half wall on the plan we leave a strip of plywood out and sister every floor joist with an upward for the wall. If the Joyce running the same direction as the wall we leave a bigger spot out exposing the 16 on each side and build a subframe in between them. Unmovably strong. I could 100% snap that little down tie going through the subfloor on your wall just by applying force on the top of the wall.
Very true.
But that would mean you have to look at more than just the floorplan you’re on, and think ahead…😂😂
@@HBSuccess exactly.
You probably don't make a whole lot of money then that's time consuming.
@@dennyblazer1167 I bet you I pay more in taxes per year than you make in 2 years.
Carpentry and craftsmanship go hand-in-hand. Nice work 👏🏼
Then the customer says, actually I don’t like that wall can you take it out. 😂😂
Happened to me bud Luxkilt it was metal framing lol
Those overdue corners create a weak tenen. Use Sawzall or jigsaw to complete corners.
Or...
Don't cut it at all and turn it 90deg.
Insignificant
Not relevant at this state of the proces
It’s called a handsaw I dk why guys are afraid it. The proper way to finish circular saw cut. Give me a handsaw over a jig saw any day
Thats because u dont know how to use a circular saw or Sawzall provly cut your finger off they didnt have them in your time😂😂@psyience3213
I still can't get used to seeing osb on floors. Every now and then I repair leaks on osb roofs, cdx is still salvageable most of the time, osb is dust under the shingles. Can't imagine these homes being livable in 40 years with everything sitting on chipboard, I guess time will tell
osb has come a long way. They inject so much resin into the osb it holds up really well. I prefer advantech for subfloor as it has 180 day exposure rating. cdx delaminates with any exposure to water.
@@sirdigzalot2976 maybe we'll live to see, it will be in others homes when I see it. I'm sure the lawyers have removed all the great toxins from the new stuff, all just a bunch of tech sheet data, really like every scrap use idea for the past 50 years
I feel you there.
I feel the same way about all the new plumbing
@@FLManDan watch out for the haters charging metal pipe rates for plastic
Very nicely done. Been a carpenter for close to 50 years, I remember when I was doing nothing else but framing and seeing this brings back memories so real I can smell the wood. Those were hard days working in 100 degrees sun tanning me, sweat pouring off me drenching me all before 8 am, boy do I miss those glorious days. Thanks for bringing me back there.
I was a carpenter for 26 years. Now in a truck driver. I miss them days too!
I loved the smell of the pine wood, cedar wood. The sound of my saws!
The joking around we boys would have!. Those were some great days!
Run from that house. Especially with OSB for the decking. Never seen any contractor put OSB for floor decking. That's a nightmare waiting to happen.
Now that’s some solid construction and good workers. I bet 99% of builders wouldn’t do that.
No, but most over cut to take a corner out. The over cut is more than an inch causing a weak spot. This is not THAT complex of a technique anyway. Too much credit.
It’s always interesting to see the different tools people use in other states to frame with
What tools do you use?
a skill saw and a framing gun? what do you use? a hand saw and hand nail?
@@ching574
Well for one I'd use my square to mark that 2x4 not a chalk line. And unless I'm up on a roof I'd be using a worm drive.
@@Pals777 Where you from
@@ching574 hand nail??? Do you mean hammer???
So you got underneath and nailed the extension to the joist? Excellent excellent idea.
What'd you see that was different I'm curious
@@nicks3037 Might be wrong, but the i-joist is beneath the plywood subfloor you see
My goal would be to get site weathered in before doing a great job installing an interior knee wall…
How are you gonna watch your walls bounce around then from swelling lumber?
We're gonna need that moved over about a 1/16th of an inch.
These men are the true heroes!
Tf are they heroes of, saving company time?
@@Nakatuyabuilding homes and doing jobs most people don’t like doing.
Awesome job awesome idea
This is my favourite channel on RUclips!!! I use it to train my guys on how not to act at work and show them what not to do I you don’t wanna look like an idiot to the customer. Keep it up guys!!!!👍👍
What would you have done differently? Lmk what’s the right way
Jajaja that’s harsh
I show my guys your page when I want to show them the risks of being heroin addicts. Stay healthy bro! The heart tattoo doesn't look gay at all. 👍👍
@@matts3425
Now THAT was funny. Heroin addicts... priceless
The opinion of someone dumb enough to get a face tattoo sure means alot lmao how many felons ya got
The men who didnt have power tools back in the day must have been tanks.
I love it except for the overcut with the circular saw. That cut is right where any stresses will be, it would be better to have that corner cut clean.
bro had a square but used a chalkline to mark a 12 inch line? put the pencil on 2 3/4 and ride it down the board. That Milwaukee square has notches for this every 1/8th inch. Good tip otherwise tho.
Had a builder build a half wall for a bank of kitchen cabinets. He was so proud of it until I had to put tile on the countertop. It was half inch out of level.
Built a storage shed and the women's father wanted to pitch in. 4 hours to make a 12x12 square out of 2x4s. I figured theres no way it's not square for pouring. Shit came out a polygon. 😅
Called a "Pony Wall."😮❤
We just call it what it is a 42 inch short wall. No nonscense no mistakes.
That's how i do it but, i don't notch my posts.
No k in notch
@@steves835 good spot on the auto. 👍 I also missed an.... 's
Thanks for keeping me on my toes
@@hepparade we're all here to help each other my friend 😊👍
@@steves835 agreed
Could eliminate the chalk line and the tape measure and just use your square and get it done faster.
I couldn’t believe the chalk line came out
Scribe that shit.
There should be some notches inside the square, at least on every inch line;
stick your pencil tip in the notch and run the square and you have your line square to your edge
*edit I now see you have a Milwaukee square with plenty of notches for ya
came to say this
@@donbaldridgejr7284isnt it still evey half inch if so it might just be a weird spot
I can’t argue. Looks good. Probably not a custom home.
Wow, that's actually good framing.
We usually just run the whole stud down. But we wasnt using 2x6 walls. So there's that. Lol
How's that look from the basement? What if it's finished?
Those 60V Dewalt saws are the bomb.
Most positive comment section I've seen on a video
I’d love to work with guys like this that know there shit
These guy's are underappreciated. Dam good work 👍 and Employees 💪💯😎
That's not a bad way to do, I usually double or triple up the ends or an end cut that bottom plate out the width of that post run it down and then block it off between the joists. It's a little more work but it's definitely solid
Northern construction will never cease to make me shake my head...
Why you shaking your head
Well wtf you doing down south that's better than this? This is the way to do it
Just use the gauge on the circular saw. A chalk line here isn’t needed
Didn’t even think about this at all till now. Good idea
Jesus. This is great work. Too bad no one cares about that anymore.
You guys deserve all of the work you get ✊🏾✊🏾.
Such a clean job seeing it just slide in
maybe you dont
That's been over cut on both ends, which weakness the wall. Oscillating saw would be great in this situation. Or use a spade bit to drill out the inside corner of the cut then use circular saw to cut up to the opening made by the spade bit... Or cut the opening big enough for the full 2x6
He compromised the subfloor by overcutting the holes with the circular saw, and had to have done the same to the joist in doing so as well, although one can't see the lines of having done so. The holes should have been completed with a jigsaw. It likely would have been just as easy, if not more so, to simply go below and tack on some blocking onto the joist, and the wall was already mostly over the joist anyway.
Half way wall bringing back 70s vibes
Love this saw! Best ever!
The best way was to make sure there was something in the floor joists to secure the bottom of the wall that was shoved through the floor. Otherwise it is just like any other without having to cut 2 holes in the floor for extra "hourly" charge.
Really starting to like you guys
That’s a solid knee wall.
You guys are awesome, I would've leveled the knee wall.....
And THIS, kids, IS HOW YOU BRACE A HALFWALL! Without cutting the LVL BEAMS that "don't matter"
Try putting a scrap piece of 2×12 in between the studs it will be rock solid if it's just nailed to the joist if You're doing a knee wall for a tile shower it's the only way to go
As a guy who has tiled many pony walls (in showerez!!)that i needed to reinforce.. thank you
Another time when I say “ why didn’t I think of that?” Good show. Thanks for sharing.
Here was my invented solution: double the base & run 2-3 16” threaded bars cross braced below against floor joists.
Building inspector walked right to the new island where a wall once was…, turned & said “that is one of the thinnest AND strongest islands I ever touched in a home”.
You taught me something today.
Thanks!
For me is absolute crazy how you american's work.
The worksite clean unlike the cuts
You could use a tube of PL grab on the bottom wood and nail it too. But this is still good stuff
Probably easier to make that cut before you nail the stud to the wall but still I like it
The player that cuts out the badge during the Euros will hold my upmost respect for years to come, though doubt any will due to the backlash of the weak of this country.
Yeah nobody like a rocking pony wall 😅
Good stuff
Always use a full stud do not notch block around the joist at pint of connection even if it means intturpting the wall to secure.
He said I joist and sturdy in the same sentence.
Never seen this before but it most definitely looks like it's a winner
Yous is smart, yous is kind and yous important!!
Exelente travajo felicidades me gusta ver gente aquien le puedo aprender travajadores limpios
Never seen this but I love it
Gotta love them diablo blades that last for 2 days and then start chipping the wood
I usually use the Diablo blades. Seems to be the best box store blade. What do you use?
@justinhc123 usually use Orion blades but I also sharpen my blades with circular harlequin diamond wheels
Got to love them diablo blades
I don’t notch the studs of a pony wall, we notch the bottom plate to run a stud on the flat like a channel down onto a joist. If the joist are running perpendicular to the pony wall then we ensure every joist has a stud running down it in addition to 16” OC layout
Hey that’s the noob from last time, he’s now a pro at nailing.
This is how a carpenter gets pegged
Attach legs to joists?
This is a fantastic method.
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Aprendiste como te enseñe, saludos carnal!!
Typical Foreman: The Guy Is About To Cut The Piece, And The Foreman Yells, “Cut The Piece Down”
Un carpintero hace muebles muy hermosos...
Pero estos manes.manejan la sierra circular... muy increíble....cortes perfecto a mano alzada
Algo complicado. es cuestión de mucha práctica
This is the right way.
And with the next strong wind the house goes YEET
If there is a beam underneath the half wall I figured out to use exterior straps and attached them to both sides running below and getting attached to the beam below, holds way better and solves the loose wall way better.
oooooo! You're a genius.
good guys have been doing that for 50 years that I know of
That dude in the future who tries to remove that is going to have a rough time. I didn’t know this though glad I do.
I did use the nr83a my dad is all about passload I was helping him out between house we’re both framing contractors.. Long story there but sometimes I’ll have my crew help him and vice versa we both to 10k sf and up anyway I took the spring out of the passload of his I was using and holy crap so I switched all my framing nailed so much faster.. I just heard that dude using it to nail up that bar wall. And you always see dude run the end studs of those kitchen island walls I do it myself but real 9 times out of 10 there are lowers there so the cabinet it attached to the wall so realistically it serves no purpose running a stud down but like I said I do do that myself
Got some skill skills
Nice work, good tip!
Learning something new everyday, thanks boys 😎
Good to know something new
Most of the construction world wears PPE! Try wearing some when you demonstrate safe and professional carpentry examples. We appreciate you!
Never did it this way but I love it
Great work 💯
This bad boy isn’t going anywhere
Wow sweet I like your style!
And here we are in The Netherlands where everything is made of concrete, plaster bricks and more of that.😂 Wooden buildings do get build a lot quicker. But less sturdy then concrete.
Y’all should use 2x4 on interior little pony walls so you can save a little floor space. Obviously some houses are bigger than others but for single family or townhouses
Definitely not the guys who built my paper house.
Beautiful.
Dam I like that! I'm gonna be using this lol
Good idea. Thank you
I notch mine through the floor to. Send someone down to block it in for added support. And Dang it Bobby nail into the floor joist. No need to do a mag dump on a bottom plate if you just hit something solid not spraying and praying through subfloor.
Cant believe this isnt common building practice