Yes totally agree, his kit needed more! I was hoping for a random multi hit, 60% dec def and or an apply two 5% poison if under dec def. He is ..Jotun=Yotun! Drop the J for a Y. Keep up the great work and the content we need
If the AI had been fixed (or change his A1 to 60% dec DEF), he should’ve been an ideal pick for my budget unkillable CB team as the slow, huge HP stun target. Appreciate the testing and the discovery!
ong... According to Plarium, changing AI is not a rebalance, so it can be done without waiting another 15 months for major rebalance. HH, please, youse your contacts to push this simple fox to be done!
Heroes that have a debuff on their A1 will try to place tha debuff if it isn't up. Same for Maneater (won't use A2 unless offence down is up), Cimson slayer (won't use A2) etc. etc. The general AI order seems to be: > Place buffs > Place debuffs > Do damage And within those it goes A3> A2 > A1.
He was a temp hp burner in my alts cb team before the buff... after the buff I started booking and ascending him, lol. He is only def down there currently so I’ve no issues there... so excited about that buff!!
His Kit needs to be reworked. A1 I agree with you on needing big def down. A3 should include an Aoe stun to make him viable. As of now, Hp decrease is useless for an epic.
Just got him in the x2 summons and was excited to hear he was getting buffed. Think I'll still work on building him up in hopes they fix the brain issue but it won't be my priority now.
Have to suffer from it every damn time, i finally gave up and decided to make him the stun target to prevent him from doing anything other than his A1.
@@pollypaul2865 i don't have either of them or jareg 😑 the only other choice is coffen smasher but tayrel brings dec def and an aura so he is my best choice
He was one of the first epics I pulled. Looked cool but realized he wasn’t very good after a while. If his A1 was the big version of decrease defence I would probably use him in my unkillable team for spirit affinity.
Thanks for the great video! I was excited to give him a try since he finally scales off HP but looks like he needs yet another buff. I'm guessing he's still useless in arena judging from your comments.
Hey Hell Hades! Can you make a guide on farming every dungeon potions? It might be a great help for us early-mid game players. I hope you read this. Thanks in advance.
Please do a guide on Aina. She has the smartest AI in the game! Has both def down and weaken but only places them when they fall off so no skill is wasted!
Jotun was my 1rst epic in the game. His bulk helped me a lot in the early game, but a didn't even lvl50 him. And I don't think I will, even after that buff
just pulled jotun today and came here to see what's special about him and well.. i already have a rearguard who's A1 is the BIG decrease def (i think) so thank you for enlightening us on this bug. still gonna use him, just on manual lol. also wonder if HP burns stack cos i do have a coffin smasher as well.
Thinking about putting Jotun in the "slowboi" position of my version of Rust's Budget Unkillable Team: Maneater (required) Painkeeper (required) Frozen Banshee (or any DPS) Frozen Banshee (or any DPS) Jotun ("slowboi"/stun soaker) DEF as low as possible, high hp. Thoughts?
Came back and started reading this comment and was like, "Me too! I actually DID that!" then saw it was my own comment ... yeah, so this comp works pretty well, but the AI problem really hobbles the dmg it could be doing. I get 35 M per key vs UNM usually. FBs in Retaliation and Cruel gear. If I get Retaliation gear with high enough hp for Jotun, that's probably what I'll do so he can increase his chances of landing the Dec Def on his A1.
Fellhound's AI bugs me. 'oh there's a level one still alive in my team, I will reflect damage first, oh he died, k now I'll attack and kill the enemy. Or the level one is going right after fellhound, let's block damage on him, so he can take a turn right after and waste it. I primarily use him as campaign farm where he can 3 hit the boss in 12/6 brutal, and 1 hit every wave.... Just hit the f'n enemy you'll win.
So I'm looking for champs with HP burn for scarab king doom tower. My ult galeks timing is bad. Wondering if this guy would help keep up the HP burn so I can kill this boss. Wondering your thoughts. Thnx
The best buff for me from the 2.20 patch is the Taurus four poison change for my 13 sec spider 20 team with Elenaril. That and that you only have to load the stage once and not every time you press replay after you cleared a stage.
So basically only just viable in clan boss, but a big improvement over wet noodle. TBH they should just give him the bigger reduce Def on is A1 and make it aoe. He has a low %, but it would certainly get him into other areas of the game.
What about for someone who does not have the speed runes to build a slow pvp comp? have him on shield gear maxed out HP on everything and use counter attack to get him to take some turns? been struggling in arena and realized I just don't have the speed runes/gear to complete, been noodling a slow comp using some control camps and this guy as my single target damage dealer + huge shield on my team.. just an idea.. I'm so fed up with area I'm grasping at straws
Ithos doesn't use his a3 at bosses too, at least on lava. Dumb brothers. By the way, Jotun was one of my first epic. He looked so powerful and was so useless back those days. I remember myself writing to the support "why your hp champion scales on attack, the lowest thing among his hp-attack-defense? Fix him!" :D
Great stream last night but obviously the A3 bug is a bit of a poo 💩. He’s higher on my list now but I’ve still others to lvl before him. Now we just need a buff to Grohak the bloodynosed , although I’m having second thoughts he may be good for spider or fire knight with his turn meter ability. Thx Mr H 😀👍🏼
why did they not change all the HP champs damage to HP, there still a lot of HP champs that have damage based on ATK including Azure, which was supposed to have been Buffed?
HP champs is an odd category anyway; and I’m not sure if I’d like for example my Occult Brawler (an HP champ with damage based on ATK) to get such treatment just like what Lord Champfort (another HP champ) had previously received: they changed his damage from being based on ATK to HP, which then actually LOWERS his damage output. Reason being was since his ATK stat was very low, they had to push up the multipliers on his skills prior to the change so his base damage won’t be comically weak. Now they’re based on HP, and consequentialy his damage multipliers now aren’t as big as it was since his base HP stat is high enough as it is.
@@Yeet42069 Correct he can be used now. Be aware I think his dmg is mediocre vs UNM clan boss if you plan on using him. Hard to balance HP on budget unkillable as well. Rowan with no masteries and no damage can match his output just off her poisons.
00:40 You know he never missed a single leg day :))
THICC
Jotun: I’m smart
HH: I don’t think u got the facilities for that bigman
That’s one of my favorite things to say to someone with no context
You mean faculties? ..
I wish we had somekind of Ai management for our heroes where we could set some priorities.
@the batchelor Guess I'm not the only person who pulled Jotun today.
Yes totally agree, his kit needed more! I was hoping for a random multi hit, 60% dec def and or an apply two 5% poison if under dec def. He is ..Jotun=Yotun! Drop the J for a Y. Keep up the great work and the content we need
The mystery of how defense scales in relation to damage reduction(diminishing returns) i love to see a video on this.
If the AI had been fixed (or change his A1 to 60% dec DEF), he should’ve been an ideal pick for my budget unkillable CB team as the slow, huge HP stun target. Appreciate the testing and the discovery!
ong...
According to Plarium, changing AI is not a rebalance, so it can be done without waiting another 15 months for major rebalance.
HH, please, youse your contacts to push this simple fox to be done!
Heroes that have a debuff on their A1 will try to place tha debuff if it isn't up. Same for Maneater (won't use A2 unless offence down is up), Cimson slayer (won't use A2) etc. etc.
The general AI order seems to be:
> Place buffs
> Place debuffs
> Do damage
And within those it goes A3> A2 > A1.
"He hit like wet noodle" 🤣
He was a temp hp burner in my alts cb team before the buff... after the buff I started booking and ascending him, lol. He is only def down there currently so I’ve no issues there... so excited about that buff!!
_I'm actually here because visually..._
_...Jetni + Jotunn makes a great couple !_
His Kit needs to be reworked. A1 I agree with you on needing big def down. A3 should include an Aoe stun to make him viable. As of now, Hp decrease is useless for an epic.
Just got him in the x2 summons and was excited to hear he was getting buffed. Think I'll still work on building him up in hopes they fix the brain issue but it won't be my priority now.
Everyone "CBoss turn meter is filling up!"
Tayrel "No worry, hold my beer... Preemptive Strike!!!!"
Have to suffer from it every damn time, i finally gave up and decided to make him the stun target to prevent him from doing anything other than his A1.
@@thestatistician6076 I replace him with Peydma, now using S. Sentinel.
@@pollypaul2865 i don't have either of them or jareg 😑 the only other choice is coffen smasher but tayrel brings dec def and an aura so he is my best choice
He was one of the first epics I pulled. Looked cool but realized he wasn’t very good after a while. If his A1 was the big version of decrease defence I would probably use him in my unkillable team for spirit affinity.
Streamer Thumbnail haha. Love it
Good video HH, your inputs are making this game a lot better. Ta
"He looks absolutely immense", he said, while zooming in on Jotun's crotch
Thanks for the great video! I was excited to give him a try since he finally scales off HP but looks like he needs yet another buff. I'm guessing he's still useless in arena judging from your comments.
Hey Hell Hades! Can you make a guide on farming every dungeon potions? It might be a great help for us early-mid game players. I hope you read this. Thanks in advance.
Please do a guide on Aina. She has the smartest AI in the game! Has both def down and weaken but only places them when they fall off so no skill is wasted!
All brawn with a pea brain. LOL Hell Hades, you're hilarious. I love it.
Jotun "the pea brain" Brawn lol poor Jotun
Jotun was my 1rst epic in the game.
His bulk helped me a lot in the early game, but a didn't even lvl50 him.
And I don't think I will, even after that buff
Can Jotun be MVP against void keep bosses ? At least 2 of them with hp burn and hp down mechanics ?
Thanks for all of this great content Hell Hades! I hope u hear that enough man u rly kill it fr man!!
Is Joton good with Rathalos for the HP burn for clan boss?
He’s not bad
just pulled jotun today and came here to see what's special about him and well.. i already have a rearguard who's A1 is the BIG decrease def (i think) so thank you for enlightening us on this bug. still gonna use him, just on manual lol. also wonder if HP burns stack cos i do have a coffin smasher as well.
Thinking about putting Jotun in the "slowboi" position of my version of Rust's Budget Unkillable Team:
Maneater (required)
Painkeeper (required)
Frozen Banshee (or any DPS)
Frozen Banshee (or any DPS)
Jotun ("slowboi"/stun soaker)
DEF as low as possible, high hp. Thoughts?
Came back and started reading this comment and was like, "Me too! I actually DID that!" then saw it was my own comment ... yeah, so this comp works pretty well, but the AI problem really hobbles the dmg it could be doing. I get 35 M per key vs UNM usually. FBs in Retaliation and Cruel gear. If I get Retaliation gear with high enough hp for Jotun, that's probably what I'll do so he can increase his chances of landing the Dec Def on his A1.
Have you tried him in some unkillable on UNM? Any estimations how much would he do there?
Fellhound's AI bugs me. 'oh there's a level one still alive in my team, I will reflect damage first, oh he died, k now I'll attack and kill the enemy.
Or the level one is going right after fellhound, let's block damage on him, so he can take a turn right after and waste it.
I primarily use him as campaign farm where he can 3 hit the boss in 12/6 brutal, and 1 hit every wave.... Just hit the f'n enemy you'll win.
He was my second epic I ever pulled... he’s been sitting at 50 in my vault. I have the gear for that damage but I wanna see that a1 bug fixed
i started playing last week, hes my first epic, im kinda sad.....
I put the blessing for him to put the bigger version wonder if it'll be of use as mentioned
I’m thinking 'weak version' of skills should be reserved for common, uncommon and rare only.
So I'm looking for champs with HP burn for scarab king doom tower. My ult galeks timing is bad. Wondering if this guy would help keep up the HP burn so I can kill this boss. Wondering your thoughts. Thnx
The best buff for me from the 2.20 patch is the Taurus four poison change for my 13 sec spider 20 team with Elenaril. That and that you only have to load the stage once and not every time you press replay after you cleared a stage.
Ohhh I just pulled this guy not that long ago before the patch! I can't wait to see his potential, thanks HH. :D
Why not use defense masteries like you for your 2:1 teams? Was that specific to 2:1 teams? Thanks.
Any notes on if they fixed the buff he's talking about ?
This is whats happening when using steroids. :P
So basically only just viable in clan boss, but a big improvement over wet noodle. TBH they should just give him the bigger reduce Def on is A1 and make it aoe. He has a low %, but it would certainly get him into other areas of the game.
finally Our Mr. wer noodle video
What about for someone who does not have the speed runes to build a slow pvp comp? have him on shield gear maxed out HP on everything and use counter attack to get him to take some turns? been struggling in arena and realized I just don't have the speed runes/gear to complete, been noodling a slow comp using some control camps and this guy as my single target damage dealer + huge shield on my team.. just an idea..
I'm so fed up with area I'm grasping at straws
Just pulled this guy and since I’m f2p I’m going to still build him even with the pea brain he has. I’ll at least get him to 50 for sure.
Ithos doesn't use his a3 at bosses too, at least on lava. Dumb brothers. By the way, Jotun was one of my first epic. He looked so powerful and was so useless back those days. I remember myself writing to the support "why your hp champion scales on attack, the lowest thing among his hp-attack-defense? Fix him!" :D
Great stream last night but obviously the A3 bug is a bit of a poo 💩. He’s higher on my list now but I’ve still others to lvl before him. Now we just need a buff to Grohak the bloodynosed , although I’m having second thoughts he may be good for spider or fire knight with his turn meter ability. Thx Mr H 😀👍🏼
They got Belanors AI wrong as well. They just can't get those AI's right for some reason.
True
Can you have both weak and strong debuffs on at the same time?
1000 volts in his muscels but lights off in his brain, Plarium fix his AI, the time is over 4 the wet noodle! ;-)
Will he work in spider den for the HP burn
Jotun is one of my list champ i want build but i still confuse to six star or not
That feels like a bug they need to fix. Nice buff though.
I would've liked to see a Jotun vs Coffin smasher, because i have both and as far as i can tell i should just continue using Coffin Smasher.
coffin has decrease attack and his passive helps him survive
HH has his a.i been fixed or same old stuff?
Raid has become unplayably laggy since 2.2. Great content, Plarium.
Jotun vs Altan Jotun is the winner! First try!
Hahaha wow "Mr.Wet Noodle" finally got his beef up!
But left with a "Pea Brains". ROFL! XD
big PP jotun. Small brain
But is he dumber than Robar? Mr. "I only use my stun and not Def. down vs bosses"
same like tyrant with his passive about HP burn lowering dmg taken so lets go never use it if boss is below 70% hp
Matúš Chalachan the weirdest thing in the game.. (got him and its so frustrating)
I wonder what kind of damage jotun does to spider under hp burn
Nice Title! 😂😂😂
Might be able to forge something?
Do we think they fixed it with this fast update to fix the fk tourney too?
Do you know if his ai has been fixed yet?
I am so shocked Plarium screwed up on AI. They are usually so good with AI.
Nice . Please do a video on pitiless one, his damage is good i guess now.
any news about jotun's AI?
why did they not change all the HP champs damage to HP, there still a lot of HP champs that have damage based on ATK including Azure, which was supposed to have been Buffed?
HP champs is an odd category anyway; and I’m not sure if I’d like for example my Occult Brawler (an HP champ with damage based on ATK) to get such treatment just like what Lord Champfort (another HP champ) had previously received: they changed his damage from being based on ATK to HP, which then actually LOWERS his damage output. Reason being was since his ATK stat was very low, they had to push up the multipliers on his skills prior to the change so his base damage won’t be comically weak. Now they’re based on HP, and consequentialy his damage multipliers now aren’t as big as it was since his base HP stat is high enough as it is.
This was posted 2 years agao... Did they ever fix that glitch? Inquiring minds want to know.
I was wondering what was wrong with his AI and I never expected that to be the problem. i'm laughing so hard. it's a very plarium thing to do
Is it fixed now after 1 Year?
Time to revisit since the ai changed so we can set up priorities
That was super funny pea brain haha
for only being a day 4 player hes my strongest hero he does over 500k damage to the easy clan boss
Is he fixed?
omg. I cant stop laughing XD
Have they fixed this yet?
Is he still broken?
Hey was the AI ever fixed? I got Jotun
i like the title
Jotun has more attack an twice the health, but half the defense as altan
I. Use him in clan boss. His hp burn for 4 turns is grate.
Why is your HP Burn hitting Nightmare clan boss for 75k, while my HP Burns only hit for 50k? Genuinely curious about this.
I got him 2 times, if they fix his a3 i would use them both in clanboss
Wow. That's unfortunate.
Plarium just wants us to manual all CB runs! Super fun!
I would like to see elder skarg now with spider he could be a hp burn champ now
I fed my jotun way ago. Dont regret
I auto anyways I want to try him. I think we need to go and bitch to plarium untill his a1 and AI is fixed .
so frustrating for my alt account. i can't believe they can't make this small fix
_I had to check the spelling error..._
_...Now Jotunn has an extra "N"_ XD
...He is a dinosaur.
I mean the easiest fix for this is to just give him the big def down debuff lol
Hes epic.. doesnt epics get 50k on the HP burn?
Has his AI been fixed yet? I really want him as my slow boi for my budget unkillable but I have Fayne for decrease def and weaken.
I just tested it. Same boat I wanna use him as slow boi but he will not do his A3 on auto.
@@bmcwxyz you can just fix that with the new ai changes no? putting his a3 on first prio
@@Yeet42069 Correct he can be used now. Be aware I think his dmg is mediocre vs UNM clan boss if you plan on using him. Hard to balance HP on budget unkillable as well. Rowan with no masteries and no damage can match his output just off her poisons.
he does look fun, im a build him for the fun :D
The AI for so many champs is broken. It's like they don't actually test any of these builds
Yeah, can't do anything with a cannon that keeps backfiring
I mean if you have him and not altan, seems like the obvious choice.
Wetnoodle... Waiting since 2days♥️♥️♥️ and now he got no brains