Why China is OBSESSED with Taiwan

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  • Опубликовано: 26 янв 2022
  • Formosa is a small island located between the South China Sea and the East China Sea, but its population density (about 23 million people) is very high and its economy is flourishing, although it has shown some signs of slowing down in recent years. We are facing the only disputed territory in the world that has full sovereignty within its borders: Beijing in fact considers it a Chinese province and forces any nation that wants to establish or maintain diplomatic relations with China not to recognize the sovereignty of Taiwan, nor have official diplomatic relations with it. Why? Let's talk about it in detail.
    Sources used for this video:
    - M. A. Rubinstein, "Taiwan. A New History", 1998
    - J. Tischer, "The Changing Place of History in Taiwan, The Changing Place of Taiwan in History", Term Paper History and Antropology, 2017;
    - G. M. Davison, "A Short History of Taiwan: The Case for independence", 2003;
    - “The Horizons of Taiwan", Istituto Affari Internazionali (IAI), 2016

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  • @JackWiizard
    @JackWiizard 2 года назад +40

    "I'm Jacopo, Simone's friend", the bromance goes international.

  • @thomasthomasthomas296
    @thomasthomasthomas296 2 года назад +109

    Your english is just fine to me. I am American and I think your english is perfectly fine. I think these videos are very well done, and I like how they seem to not have as blatant of a bias as many other channels do.

  • @aubreylear
    @aubreylear 2 года назад +315

    subscribed. so great to get a non-american perspective on these topics. well done.

    • @haninditabudhi6574
      @haninditabudhi6574 2 года назад

      Where is he from? Sounds hes from eastern european countries

    • @frankborr3395
      @frankborr3395 2 года назад +12

      @@haninditabudhi6574 he’s Italian! I follow him since I was kid on his Italian channel,he’s a great guy

    • @chou3595
      @chou3595 2 года назад +3

      but still a western perspective so dont change barely nothing!

    • @aubreylear
      @aubreylear 2 года назад +11

      @@chou3595 it's better than Chinese state run tv

    • @chou3595
      @chou3595 2 года назад +2

      @@aubreylear lol

  • @JustNoble
    @JustNoble 2 года назад +73

    Love the international channel. Keep it up guys!

  • @tianko5609
    @tianko5609 2 года назад +104

    10:10 Sunflower movement is not due to unemployment/inequality. It was due to a planned signing of an agreement with China that puts Taiwan's economy too much in the hands of China, and had vague details which the government didn't reveal to the public. Very important distinction as it's where the turning point of the downfall of KMT since then began at. DPP keeps winning and winning elections after that event.

    • @kakashiar
      @kakashiar 2 года назад +5

      u r right.

    • @sebastianmelmoth685
      @sebastianmelmoth685 2 года назад +20

      Indeed - I live in Taiwan. Our unemployment rate is negligible. The LEAST of our problems. The protest was due to the KMT going behind the backs of Taiwanese to negotiate with the CCP - one of the MAJOR reasons for their humiliating defeat at the following election, and their continued fall into obscurity.

    • @changchadchanamdong2668
      @changchadchanamdong2668 2 года назад

      @@sebastianmelmoth685 . Because ktm are still consider them self Chinese . Litterally nationalist

    • @gaebitch3200
      @gaebitch3200 2 года назад +1

      thank you

    • @eatdawontonsoup
      @eatdawontonsoup 2 года назад

      guess what, in the past 6 years, Taiwan is ever more economically dependent on China, with or without the CIA-backed movements in 2014. we all know shit CIA has done to the world, how do you all think they wouldn't have done the same to Asia?

  • @JohnDoe-hl3xz
    @JohnDoe-hl3xz 2 года назад +30

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  • @Xayver1082
    @Xayver1082 2 года назад +24

    Your'e English is great! You already speak more than the majority of people!

  • @FlavioCost
    @FlavioCost 2 года назад +12

    A usefull and well made video, as usual. 🔥

  • @neilz.
    @neilz. 2 года назад +10

    Jakobo, ya do good work. Keep it up ya'lls

  • @rishabhkatiyar3808
    @rishabhkatiyar3808 2 года назад +49

    the broken english the best part of the video lovely

  • @SpacedudeProductions
    @SpacedudeProductions 2 года назад +55

    If you really wish, you can speak in the language you are most comfortable speaking with, and simply provide English subtitles. I’d listen anyways!

    • @suzukijimny1832
      @suzukijimny1832 2 года назад +19

      Both Simone and jacopo have channels in Italian, try them out if you wish they are very good, you can find both channels in the followed channels section of this channel, Simone has ‘nova lectio’ and jacopo has ‘parabellum’

    • @redsamson5185
      @redsamson5185 2 года назад +20

      i appreciate his efforts to communicate with us in english. the more he speaks english, the easier it will be for him to speak it

    • @SpacedudeProductions
      @SpacedudeProductions 2 года назад +6

      @@redsamson5185 I know. I’m just saying he doesn’t have to force himself to.

    • @thomasthomasthomas296
      @thomasthomasthomas296 2 года назад +2

      @@suzukijimny1832 I thought Italian didn't use the letter "J"?

    • @thomasthomasthomas296
      @thomasthomasthomas296 2 года назад +5

      @@redsamson5185 this is true, and as a monolingual english speaker, I am trying my best to go about learning other languages, it hasn't gone too well so far....

  • @louisd6410
    @louisd6410 2 года назад +6

    Great to see a third party perspective for such sensitive issue. Which you won't see on US media

  • @a.bellizia5090
    @a.bellizia5090 2 года назад +18

    Great idea to make these videos in English, thanks

  • @stingray4988
    @stingray4988 Год назад +16

    Your video is factually wrong in the very first minute... China's Qing Dynasty conquered Taiwan in 1683 as Taiwan was a stronghold of Zheng Family who pledged loyalty to China's former Ming Dynasty that was replaced by Qin Dynasty. Qing Dynasty didn't pay too much attention to govern Taiwan until it finally decided to set up Taiwan province in 1885. After losing the Sino-Japan War in 1895 Taiwan was ceded to Japan in Ma Guan Treaty.

    • @gatteo86
      @gatteo86 3 месяца назад

      no, that's not true, Qing self proclaimed ruler of the Island, but they never really controlled it. east was under natives, north center and south were controlled by local families that seldom paid taxes or enforced Qing laws. even Qings maps didn't show the whole island

  • @ellibertador64
    @ellibertador64 2 года назад +14

    Ciao ragazzi ho mostrato il vostro video sulla Colombia a molti dei miei amici in Colombia e ne sono soddisfatti

  • @Hamsteak
    @Hamsteak 2 года назад +3

    I loved how you used the Nuclear power plants from Simcity 4 👏

  • @MsDancecommander
    @MsDancecommander 2 года назад +1

    Subscribed! I appreciate the non-american take, because I get anxious about being assertive. Much gratitude, dudes!
    I honestly have a speech impediment, so I don't worry about English unless it get really confusing with similar words. Like Red and Read. Or Haul, hall and Hole.

  • @AhmedSaid-pn5ws
    @AhmedSaid-pn5ws 2 года назад

    my favorite channel

  • @MrLugine
    @MrLugine 2 года назад

    great info

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    @monarchyofjackalliancesind3937 2 года назад +1

    Very nice ❤️💖

  • @alexsiu8006
    @alexsiu8006 2 года назад

    It is hoped that Simone could further comment on all these matters.

  • @hz3068
    @hz3068 Год назад +1

    Silk road theme hits hard

  • @psychomike2235
    @psychomike2235 2 года назад +9

    Thanks for making these videos in English, im Italian but my Italian isn't all that great so I really appreciate the effort you put into these. They are well researched and interesting, keep up the great work my friend!

  • @jameshodgson3656
    @jameshodgson3656 2 года назад +2

    Even though I disagree on some points I do like the video

  • @themigthyhowitzer3213
    @themigthyhowitzer3213 2 года назад +3

    Wait, is it just me or was that BF4 music towards the end, or maybe just similar?

  • @Skyjy10
    @Skyjy10 2 года назад +6

    As a Taiwanese, I'm impressed of your thorough research on Taiwan (Formosa). Thank you.

  • @samad3251
    @samad3251 2 года назад +8

    Subscribed, for your neutrality.
    I support president Tsai ing-wen but she should esnure that her nation doesn't become a ground for proxy war between major world powers.

  • @angelosorrisi
    @angelosorrisi 2 года назад +4

    Molto bello bravi 👏 pensate di tradurlo anche in italiano?

  • @LiterallyWho1917
    @LiterallyWho1917 2 года назад +55

    In a time of such rampant anti-China propaganda, this well-researched and impartial video is so crucial. It's professional, academic and gives context to the situation that's often left out in Western sources. Keep it up, I'm already a fan of this channel.

    • @leihtory7423
      @leihtory7423 2 года назад +8

      This video is Anti-China Propaganda.

    • @LiterallyWho1917
      @LiterallyWho1917 2 года назад +14

      @@leihtory7423 it didn't seem too anti PRC. It highlighted the white terror and the complex reality of Taiwanese politics.

    • @ythunderboy8694
      @ythunderboy8694 2 года назад +12

      How are videos being anti PRC = anti china as a whole?

    • @Gurfi28
      @Gurfi28 2 года назад +6

      @@leihtory7423 a perfectly impartial video about Taiwan would be anti-ccp..

  • @gaetanodiplacido8431
    @gaetanodiplacido8431 2 года назад +1

    Potresti farlo pure in italiano questo video?

  • @redsamson5185
    @redsamson5185 2 года назад +5

    i appreciate that nova lectio international speaks english. i see what he is saying

  • @Commielover69
    @Commielover69 2 года назад

    Underrated

  • @ilmelangolo
    @ilmelangolo 2 года назад +6

    Commento tattico

  • @georgesamuels4511
    @georgesamuels4511 2 года назад +22

    Horrible situation really, the kuomingtang were dictators, the CCP are dictators. It was two sides of a shit coin when it all kicked off in the late 40s

    • @shivmalik9405
      @shivmalik9405 2 года назад +2

      You know it’s bad when you consider the rule of the imperial Japanese as the best part of you recent history.

    • @Ecaea
      @Ecaea 2 года назад +5

      In the eyes of the western world , the CCP is the only dictators and KMT were the sunny and beautiful democratic group they yearn for. At least thats what majority of the western naive people thought of the China situation were.

    • @shivmalik9405
      @shivmalik9405 2 года назад +1

      @@Ecaea I agree. Neither were democratic. It was more like CCP were communist and Kuomintang fascists.

    • @sebastianmelmoth685
      @sebastianmelmoth685 2 года назад +1

      The Taiwanese evolved away from dictatorship after many years of struggle. The Chinese embraced dictatorship and are fast running out of friends and options.

    • @georgesamuels4511
      @georgesamuels4511 2 года назад

      @@sebastianmelmoth685 of course but like i said when it all kicked off it was a horrible situation. I'd hate to think what would've happened back then if the west attempted to stop the spread of communism in China really

  • @iamilibitirenbetter3266
    @iamilibitirenbetter3266 2 года назад +11

    What’s Taiwan?

    • @sarkazm6011
      @sarkazm6011 2 года назад +3

      island

    • @ucuppsani6767
      @ucuppsani6767 2 года назад +2

      China people

    • @clst3106
      @clst3106 2 года назад +1

      A province under occupation of the kmt

    • @yuhboijosiah8083
      @yuhboijosiah8083 2 года назад +2

      @@clst3106 Funny how you're objectively wrong, but what can you expect from someone with a Lenin pfp?

  • @francescoioverno2937
    @francescoioverno2937 2 года назад +1

    Interesting! I like in English!

  • @ivanf.482
    @ivanf.482 2 года назад

    No vabbe pure in inglese? Non sapevo, grande!

  • @BBarNavi
    @BBarNavi 2 года назад +3

    0:39 putting Penghu to the right of Taiwan was UTTERLY CURSED

  • @iidentifyasaa-10warthogbrr10
    @iidentifyasaa-10warthogbrr10 2 года назад +25

    Ukrain and Russia
    Taiwan and China
    What next..?

    • @neilz.
      @neilz. 2 года назад +16

      Earth and Mars

    • @Justanothaguy
      @Justanothaguy 2 года назад +14

      @@neilz. Don't get me started on those bloody Martians!

    • @_utahraptor
      @_utahraptor 2 года назад +9

      Usa and Cuba

    • @ms1-Alex
      @ms1-Alex 2 года назад +4

      Morocco and west sahara?

    • @georgesamuels4511
      @georgesamuels4511 2 года назад +1

      British empire War crimes would be a good watch ngl

  • @Radaga92
    @Radaga92 2 года назад +11

    Mi fa strano che un video del genere, ben scritto e ben fatto, dopo così tante ore abbia così poche visualizzazioni. Che il PCC abbia fatto scendere i Social Credits di Nova Lectio International?
    It's strange, after a day this video has only 5k. A lot less than the other videos of the channel. Maybe the CCP did his deed with the Social Credits?

  • @hrishabkumarsharma1355
    @hrishabkumarsharma1355 2 года назад +5

    If I had a nickle for everytime someone made a video about the two china policy

  • @Gurfi28
    @Gurfi28 2 года назад +6

    I look at these things in quite a simple way: What do the people living there want? I don‘t care about historical claims, but only about what the people currently living there want.

    • @accountantthe3394
      @accountantthe3394 Год назад

      If that were the case - South ossetia; Transnistria; Somaliland; western Sahara; Catalonia; Hawaii; Palestine; Kashmir; north Cyprus; Abkhazia; Donetsk and Luhansk republics would all deserve independence

  • @kilgoretrout413
    @kilgoretrout413 2 года назад +1

    Taiwan 🇹🇼 makes such great 😊 tea 🍵
    So underrated 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🙃
    God bless them 🙇🏿‍♂️

  • @Louey_
    @Louey_ 2 года назад

    Not yet

  • @mohg7793
    @mohg7793 3 месяца назад

    Yes

  • @albertovela6171
    @albertovela6171 2 года назад +1

    Pls work on your tone and success will come to you. Simone e' spesso piacevole da ascoltare a prescindere dalle informazioni fornite. Il tuo tono e' molto legato e sembra di avere un robot che parla. Ascoltare il video senza guardarlo per esempio non e' piacevole a prescindere dalla pronuncia corretta o meno di una lingua straniera
    .

    • @novalectiointernational
      @novalectiointernational  2 года назад +7

      riconosco di dover lavorare ancora molto sul tono, con la pratica prima o poi ci arriverò.
      - Jacopo -

  • @16psyco
    @16psyco 2 года назад +13

    Why the UK is OBSESSED with North Ireland ? Irish reunification gogogo

    • @minisnakali
      @minisnakali 2 года назад

      I actually didnt know that they were, why are they?

    • @16psyco
      @16psyco 2 года назад +1

      @@minisnakali Why can't they leave the Irish island to the Irish people ? Colonization should have been ended a long time ago.

    • @minisnakali
      @minisnakali 2 года назад

      @@16psyco I'm sorry I really don't know, I don't really know anything about Ireland and the UK that's why I was hoping you could explain so I would understand I'm sorry to be a bother 😅❤

    • @minisnakali
      @minisnakali 2 года назад

      @@16psyco I wasn't aware that colonization was still done in this age, I thought it the two nations were just kinda there I guess?

    • @16psyco
      @16psyco 2 года назад +1

      ​@@minisnakali Now you're aware of it ^^ everybody can be mistaken, why the UK refuse a referendum around the Ireland reunification in 2016 ? you know the thing called : the right to self-determination... like we have done (am french) with our past colonized territories (the last one is the referendum for the New Caledonia self determination in 2021...)... Guess the brexit cooled off the UK leadership

  • @bobbybandz9194
    @bobbybandz9194 2 года назад +1

    A country is,or is part of,whatever its people allow. Titles mean little if the will of the people doesn't back its declaration.

  • @lorenzod3667
    @lorenzod3667 2 года назад +19

    - 10000000000000000000 social credits

  • @ilromanzodeitreregni2669
    @ilromanzodeitreregni2669 2 года назад

    Like for Three Kingdoms' music

  • @draluca3115
    @draluca3115 2 года назад +1

    You are the future of umanity amici miei. Now ou're spreading the Truth all over the world, they tried to mute it specially at school, but thanks to you more and more people is becoming conscious about the world in which they live.

  • @federicostella5383
    @federicostella5383 2 года назад +1

    For the algorithm!!!!!

  • @Pandorso
    @Pandorso 2 года назад

    Buon lavoro, tuttavia credo che l'accento sia ancora un po' "italico"

  • @MAACH02
    @MAACH02 2 года назад +1

    For the algorythm!!

  • @Bot-mx2sr
    @Bot-mx2sr 2 года назад

    Great content coverage. Please cover Palestine as well

    • @hersin15
      @hersin15 2 года назад

      There is Palestine video. Oh wait it doesn't exist.

  • @psychromaniac3525
    @psychromaniac3525 2 года назад +21

    So is Taiwan part of China?
    Taiwan: No.
    China: Yes.

    • @redsamson5185
      @redsamson5185 2 года назад

      Taiwan, Min Nan region, China?

    • @DommTom
      @DommTom 2 года назад +14

      Is Taiwan part of CHina? Yes! (according to both (officially))
      Is China part of the PRC? NO!

    • @the4lover
      @the4lover 2 года назад +14

      Taiwan is not a part of Chine,
      Taiwan is China

    • @redsamson5185
      @redsamson5185 2 года назад +7

      taiwan is a part of china’s min nan region. the people’s republic of china is the legitimate china

    • @DommTom
      @DommTom 2 года назад +4

      @@redsamson5185 In your dreams. China shall leave others alone!

  • @pinguofthehill7635
    @pinguofthehill7635 2 года назад +8

    F for our social credit

  • @davidsugijanto6935
    @davidsugijanto6935 2 года назад

    Good video. I learned some new information about this topic. However, this video still doesn't aswer WHY CHINA IS OBSESSED WITH TAIWAN?

    • @user-lq4ct6dr5m
      @user-lq4ct6dr5m 2 года назад

      “ Laugh” Even as a Taiwanese, I still couldn’t understand why

    • @vermilion6966
      @vermilion6966 Год назад +4

      Youre really not that bright if you have to ask questions like 'why any country doesnt support separatism'
      The question is idiotic.

  • @jamesmorgan2109
    @jamesmorgan2109 2 года назад

    "*perfect speaking for 30 seconds* you might hear my broken english"

  • @kang7014
    @kang7014 2 года назад +2

    is Vladivostok russia?

  • @RTankist
    @RTankist 2 года назад +10

    Per favore portalo sul canale Italiano

  • @wheresmyeyebrow1608
    @wheresmyeyebrow1608 2 года назад +22

    Taiwan is so successful despite everything it's honestly quite incredible. Hell, unlike most of the world, you can actually drink the tap water there! And something like 40% of their politicans are women too!

    • @felixsubakti6907
      @felixsubakti6907 2 года назад

      Their president is a bachelorette, just saying

    • @Patricia-xz1vz
      @Patricia-xz1vz 2 года назад

      @Olivier Verdys lol what?

    • @ebefl
      @ebefl 2 года назад

      Can you?

    • @Andreazor
      @Andreazor 2 года назад

      Nothing wrong with tap water in Europe.

  • @sendo82
    @sendo82 2 года назад +4

    You forgot the unequal treaty forcing China to lose Taiwan and HK.... At the beginning you should alrdy put it in

  • @tung-hsinliu861
    @tung-hsinliu861 2 года назад +57

    As a Taiwanese myself, most people in Taiwan nowadays(especially the younger population) consider ourselves as "Taiwan", and not "Republic of China". We don't care the one China claim, we just want to retain our democracy and freedom, that's what matters.
    Also we have a GDP per capita 3 times higher than China's, and the HDI index as high as France. There's no way we want unification.
    (And also seeing what happens in Hong Kong)

    • @VoidSpace9
      @VoidSpace9 2 года назад +8

      Don't worry, china gdp per capita will reach taiwan level and USA is already spending on Intel semiconductor manufacturing. In 5 years, no one will care about taiwan anymore as your semiconductors won't be useful for america anymore as america will be able to produce them domestically. From there china will be even stronger and capturing you will be even easier. You made a big mistake when you chose to forget your roots and motherland

    • @tung-hsinliu861
      @tung-hsinliu861 2 года назад +28

      @@VoidSpace9 What a nationalist you are. Humans come from East Africa why don't you say the world united in East Africa's rule?
      Lots of Chinese people live in the US and western countries now, even CCP official's relatives. Hey why don't them to all go back to China if China is that good? I'm sure some of them forgot their "roots". Quick, tell them to go home!
      And funny that you say in a tone as if this will definitely happen as you wumaos expected. Like you ignored China has it's own problems. The title of the world's factory is fading away, economic growth is slowing down, population is getting old while birth rates dropped dramatically, national debt is getting higher, house prices are so high that young people are lying flat, the government keeps building projects that are not profitable at all...etc
      Yet the CCP builds up a facade that makes you think that China is the strongest, and will be the strongest in any shape or form forever.
      Next time you see CCP propaganda, think twice.
      Ah I forgot you can't, because every media in China is loyal to the CCP.

    • @foxyfoxasd7943
      @foxyfoxasd7943 2 года назад +7

      我们都有自己的想法。
      但是我觉得,你肯定是一个一开战就跑美国,而不是为台湾而战的人。

    • @accent1666
      @accent1666 2 года назад +3

      @@VoidSpace9 youre very wrong, bc US will intervene to protect Taiwan's democracy and their self determination
      they arent in it for chips

    • @VoidSpace9
      @VoidSpace9 2 года назад +1

      @@accent1666 Would USA protect ukraine democracy then? Or is ukraine an exception?

  • @FederationMapping
    @FederationMapping 2 года назад +1

    It's weird I see no Westerners spamming "Taiwan is the real China"

    • @yuliusjrt9917
      @yuliusjrt9917 2 года назад +3

      Most of these people are propagandists who spam the same thing over and over because they get paid per comment. Or they’re just part of the Reddit hive mind

    • @yuliusjrt9917
      @yuliusjrt9917 2 года назад

      @Olivier Verdys lol cry about it on Reddit instead.

    • @extinction9313
      @extinction9313 2 года назад +3

      @Olivier Verdys Based

  • @horridohobbies
    @horridohobbies 2 месяца назад +1

    There is one other critical question that must be answered...
    China regards Taiwan as part of its sovereign territory and it will do whatever is necessary to protect its territorial integrity (as all nations do). *Is it worth going to war with China over Taiwan?* Such a war would be most destructive for the entire world. It could even escalate to nuclear war.
    Your original question (7:19 "Is it legitimate to recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state?") is not really relevant. What's relevant is geopolitical reality and the practical consequences of war. War with China must be avoided at all costs.

  • @ravenouself4181
    @ravenouself4181 2 года назад

    "Broken English", my Friend, You have perfect English. Much better than most Native Speakers, in fact.
    As for Taiwan being a part of China. I will try to express my views on it. Taiwan is a part of China, but as "China" as a whole - not of the PRC. As for the ROC's claims on the PRC and the rest of Mainland China, it technically lost the Chinese Civil War and as such can not be recognized as the "Government of China". If the ROC wishes to be recognized as an independent and sovereign country it should rename itself to the, for example, "Republic of Taiwan".
    That is my objective and unbiased view.
    As for my personal subjective and biased view, Taiwan is an independent and sovereign country and should be recognized as such.
    If the PRC would attempt to invade Taiwan, I highly doubt that Japan, India, Vietnam and South Korea would idly sit back.

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf 2 года назад

      His English is way better than mine---and I have known English for over 6 years. Had I put in the same amount of effort as him in learning it, I could be better than I'm now. However I never really cared about learning English properly, yet here I'm typing this comment in English.

  • @kazaddum2448
    @kazaddum2448 4 месяца назад

    1. It's Communist Party of China (CPC), not Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Takes 5 seconds to find out. The fomrer is the official english name.
    2. Those "air raids" are flights through the air traffic identification zone of the RoC. Said zone covers a huge chunk of southern China. Actual air space claimed by the RoC has never been infringed uppon, because, well, it's much smaller.
    3. As for "is it China", yes. It considers itself so too, hence the name "Republic of China". Its the rump state of the losing side of the chinese civil war, which only persisted because the USA blocked the strait and was threatening nuclear war should the PRC try anyway.

    • @obergruppenfuhrer-
      @obergruppenfuhrer- 4 месяца назад

      CCP b0t alert. Yt getting filled with Wum@os😂

  • @cloud-tutorials
    @cloud-tutorials 2 года назад +1

    i think you need to do more study

  • @circleancopan7748
    @circleancopan7748 5 месяцев назад

    The microchip industry was the reason PRC wants ROC under them.

  • @83pawnshopallsalesfinal97
    @83pawnshopallsalesfinal97 2 года назад +2

    The commies ain't legit

  • @redsamson5185
    @redsamson5185 2 года назад +7

    indeed, taiwan is china. i understand that many taiwanese don’t want to join the people’s republic of china. however, if taiwan relinquishes its claim to the chinese mainland, i could recognize taiwan. the way i see it, taiwan would rather be colonized by japan than be one with the rest of china

    • @zz3OPEN
      @zz3OPEN 2 года назад +1

      I imagine we'd see a huge number of them immigrating elsewhere before living under the CCP. I sure as hell would.

    • @accent1666
      @accent1666 2 года назад

      it already relinquished, they no longer want the mainland, just be independent

    • @redsamson5185
      @redsamson5185 2 года назад +2

      @@accent1666 cool. as an american, my opinion doesn’t matter because there is only one china. however, i suppose taiwan should be recognized like somaliland and northern cyprus should be recognized

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 2 года назад +1

      @@redsamson5185 thats a no go though. because china is a P5 member along with russia with vast influence among the third world, so you are not going to be able to get the UN to declare taiwan as anything other than chinese.
      Second, its china we're talking about, they aren't somalia or turkey/cyprus. cyprus is the way it is because turkey cant take the whole thing with fighting a war with potentially the british/nato. china can already take taiwan regardless of who is in the war.
      At some point, whether the people on taiwan want it or not, china will take taiwan, and i doubt anyone will actually defend the island, since a chinese assault will be swift, Rand studies indicates china can probably take most of the island within a month now, and faster as time goes on. plus no one is actually under any obligation to defend them, there is no treaty.
      So the real question is when and how many must die -assuming it's not a peaceful one- before it happens.

    • @nihil_hd1598
      @nihil_hd1598 2 года назад +2

      @@redsamson5185 No.if the taiwanese want to be indipended ,let them be.

  • @bluespy5813
    @bluespy5813 2 года назад +4

    I have a question...
    When I was like 9 or 10 years old I searched the total countries of the world and Google specifically stated that Taiwan is not a country but in the recent years they did the opposite, what's the reason behind this sudden change?

    • @felixsubakti6907
      @felixsubakti6907 2 года назад +21

      Google is banned in china since circa 2015 , so they opened an office in Taiwan and call Taiwan a country as a big fat middle finger to china for not being a good marketplace (they also call Turkestan a country in exile). Google also produced some of their phones in Taiwan that didn't comply with Chinese standards to add salt in the wound

    • @bluespy5813
      @bluespy5813 2 года назад +8

      @@felixsubakti6907 I mean I can't blame the Chinese for banning American apps cause terrorist in Xinjiang use them to exchange information

    • @ythunderboy8694
      @ythunderboy8694 2 года назад +7

      @@bluespy5813 Ah yes ban all american apps of your 1B population because of few terrorists

    • @bluespy5813
      @bluespy5813 2 года назад +8

      @@ythunderboy8694
      “Ah yes banning American apps cause of a few terrorists”
      It's not a “few”
      There's more than you think and besides Google censors a lot more info than one might think

    • @godlyoblivion
      @godlyoblivion 2 года назад +9

      @@bluespy5813 well the problem of terrorists is highly overstated by the Chinese government because it allows it to enforce monocultural ideals on the Uighur population.

  • @eroslogan3514
    @eroslogan3514 2 года назад

    it's not and it'll never be

  • @raulmenedez2427
    @raulmenedez2427 2 года назад +1

    It's easy to understand. It's all about territory. America is democracy

  • @BillySnider-yc2cc
    @BillySnider-yc2cc Год назад

    No

  • @natashatercera8536
    @natashatercera8536 Год назад +4

    What you fail to mention is that Taiwan had a completely different, Austronesian, tribal population until VERY recent times. You also failed to mention that the one China policy was masterminded by TAIWAN under Chiang Kai Shek’s government. During his rule, “Retake the mainland” was the slogan!!

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Год назад

      What happened to the original natives?

    • @accountantthe3394
      @accountantthe3394 Год назад +1

      @@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Genocide by Chiang when he retreated to the island and declared martial law

    • @sharwama992
      @sharwama992 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@accountantthe3394but for some reason the Han in Taiwan are trying to convince us that they are indigenous 😂

  • @paulenka5
    @paulenka5 2 года назад

    buon video anche se l'inglese lascia a desiderare! continuate a migliorare ragazzi!

  • @BioluminescentTree
    @BioluminescentTree 2 года назад

    Anche questo canale è caduto nell'errore ahimè diffusissimo di utilizzare per rappresentare il Giappone di questi anni la bandiera con i raggi. Questa in realtà era ad uso esclusivamente militare. La bandiera nazionale era invece uguale a quella attuale, solo con un rosso meno acceso. Non è conoscenza esoterica, su Wikipedia l'Impero giapponese è sempre rappresentato da tale vessillo.

    • @novalectiointernational
      @novalectiointernational  2 года назад +3

      E' vero, ho usato la bandiera con i raggi per motivi più che altro grafici (il cerchio rosso al centro sarebbe stato oscurato da immagini e video)
      - Jacopo -

  • @fengshuo2725
    @fengshuo2725 Год назад +4

    The infrastructures built by Imperial Japan were tools to syphon resources and local population hardly had the chance enjoy the benefits from it. And the oppressions imposed on locals were beyond most modern folks imagination, i.e had to pick a japanese name in order to get to school, join IJA or IJN to have a better social status, females became sex slaves. And since you mentioned those unfair treaties at the beginning of the video, why not look a bit further back to see the forming of relation between Taiwan and the Mainland. Info involved remain narrow, and you need to know more.

    • @nickm2558
      @nickm2558 3 месяца назад +1

      yup, my wife is from Taiwan and many people there hate the Japanese, they do like the modern culture and food etc but hate the people and what they did to them.

  • @kaisersoze5155
    @kaisersoze5155 2 года назад +1

    You told us after 1940s ... What about last 2000 years? Who ruled the island?

  • @moleash6465
    @moleash6465 2 года назад

    My families belong to KMT Chinese, I wonder what privileges I ever had.

  • @Swissswoosher
    @Swissswoosher 2 года назад +15

    US: Hey Xi, Taiwan
    Xi: I don’t get it
    US: You never will

    • @Swissswoosher
      @Swissswoosher 2 года назад

      @@PutXi_Whipped chill, it’s a joke.

  • @makukawakami
    @makukawakami 2 года назад +12

    im just waiting for the 50 cent army to show up in the comments

  • @junacebedo888
    @junacebedo888 2 года назад +5

    One very important factor why the Mainland wants Taiwan is, Mao ordered all China's historical & cultural heritage DESTROYED . But, some of those historical artifacts went to Taiwan and was preserved

  • @heavenbright2342
    @heavenbright2342 2 года назад +19

    The better question is why the world, especially the US, is obsessed with Taiwan. If there is no foreign interference, China would just maintain the status quo and leave Taiwan alone in all but formally as part of China. Similarly, China had to react when Hong Kong was being used by foreign anti-China factions, such as the NED which is part of the CIA.

    • @sww3679
      @sww3679 2 года назад +3

      if China takes control of Taiwan. China gains control of TSMC, the biggest semi conductor producer in the world. Taiwan is also an important see passage between the striat of malacca and countries like japan and korea. if china gains control of Taiwan, the sea routes will be much much longer and the commodity prices will inflate.

    • @sendo82
      @sendo82 2 года назад +4

      Fun fact the CEO of TSMC is from China...

    • @rg9448
      @rg9448 2 года назад

      I think Beijing would prefer to maintain the status quo, especially after Ukraine invasion by Russia and see how the majority of western powers reacts to it. China is in much more better situation than Russia, and the status of Taiwan is not as clear as Ukraine, so China should be able to pass through it better than Russia. But economy is the main focus of China, so causing international problem on such scale would be harmful for China more than it would benefit it. Just like HK, I heard that recently Chinese gov considers to leave the "one country two system" more than 2047 deadline if it works. I think they dont mind keeping with the status quo as long it doesnt bring problems to them. Ofc, if they want to "re-integrate" Taiwan, hopefully not with violence like Putin does right now

    • @wojciechhoppe456
      @wojciechhoppe456 2 года назад +1

      @@rg9448 logically it's true. I would pretty much support your point of view. But there is one thing. Xi Jinping is ramping up nationalism in China to a degree that's not healthy anymore. Xi can reign as long as he wants to, but what we see now in China is that he gains more and more power and is changing China into a more autocratic country, internally he almost reached the same status like Mao Zedong. The longer a leader reigns the crazier they get and I believe Xi Jinping wants to achieve one great goal before his death. He wants to write History and become the greatest leader of China. And the world faced many tragedies with leaders who want to "write History". He is ramping up nationalistic feelings so much, that by now I believe that even Chinese would sacrifice their wealth for the sake of China "national rejuvenation". And for such a a leader, just look on how isolated Russia is now, he wouldn't care for his countrys situation as long as he can write his history and unlike in Russia, I wouldn't expect any backlash from the population

    • @miliba
      @miliba 2 года назад

      Chinese imperialism

  • @lordsteppergod7269
    @lordsteppergod7269 2 года назад +2

    If China gets control of those Semiconductors, we're screwed

  • @kurapikakurutabr
    @kurapikakurutabr 2 года назад +7

    Simple. Taiwan is a REBEL part of the country. It's just like you asking me, what would the US reaction be if Hawaii, or I don't know, Florida, suddenly, because of political differences with the Federal government, started claiming the right to govern from their territories, the rest of the country; that's basically it, Taiwan was "founded", with the intention of absorbing the government from the rest of China and taking power for itself, not because it wanted to become independent. What makes peaceful reunification impossible is precisely US interference, which constantly exerts its "soft" and "hard" power over the island, which causes tremendous friction in relations that have nothing to do with the Americans, since the The situation is solely and exclusively of a national character for China, and there is no reason why the US wants to make the island their protectorate under the excuse of semiconductor demand, as everyone has been saying, because nobody is stupid and everyone knows that the US can well to even quickly create a production chain for this input within its own territory, as Biden recently started to do. The Taiwan issue for the Americans in my humble opinion is uniquely and exclusively REPRESSION, yes, a repression for having to share a post of influence with the country that in the recent past they look down on, with condescension and now have to put up with .
    Sorry for the grammar mistakes, I don't know how to write much in English. And don't misunderstand my point of view either, because it's a criticism of the government and corporations that have great influence in the US, not against its people, who for me are the biggest victims of the vested interests of the politicians and powerful.

    • @godlyoblivion
      @godlyoblivion 2 года назад +3

      Taiwan is so different now than it was when Chiang Kai Shek first fled there. It would be unfair to impose unification on a country like Taiwan when it’s people don’t want to and because it is already so independent. Unification would just be needless bloodshed.

    • @romebus4328
      @romebus4328 2 года назад +5

      The difference between the relation of Florida and the USA or PRC and the ROC is that ROC is NOT a breakaway state, it was always independent since 1912. By using Florida as an example, I say that Ethiopia has claims on the entire world

  • @revinhatol
    @revinhatol 2 года назад

    China (Beijing): I am you, and you are me.
    China (Taipei): No! No, this can't be true!

    • @sebastianmelmoth685
      @sebastianmelmoth685 2 года назад +4

      China: There is only ONE China. Taiwan: Indeed there is, so why do you keep trying to invade yourself? Please consult a mental health professional. We are worried.

    • @jonaspete
      @jonaspete 2 года назад +4

      I don't know why they doesnt call themselves a republic of china if they want to gain a recognition as a true successor to China and Chinese civilization. Or else they only confined themselves to a little space like Hong Kong. In fact both of these two should do some treaty to gain a leverage over CCP China.

    • @ranggaadi5179
      @ranggaadi5179 2 года назад +1

      @@jonaspete there is no way they get leverage because Hongkong was a British colony that has been given back to mainland China and PRC and ROC are technically still at war because there is no peace treaty or ceasefire and the PRC are the ones who have control of mainland China and because of one china policy only small nation that recognize them and the majority of the world agree that PRC is the real successor, and the UN also consider Formosa island is part of china

    • @MilanILoveU
      @MilanILoveU 2 года назад

      @@ranggaadi5179 Although China is a country run by the Communist Party, relations between China and the Soviet Union have been torn apart since the 1960s. China established diplomatic relations with the United States in the 1970s, when President Nixon personally visited Beijing and announced the severance of diplomatic relations with Taiwan, when Mao was still alive. The Communist Party of China is only nominally called the Communist Party, but what it continues is the traditional Chinese path of independence. In the 1980s, China supported the Afghans to resist the Soviet invasion together with the United States, and together with the United States boycotted the 1980 Moscow Olympics, while the PRC’s The Olympic Committee was granted legal seats in 1979. Then in 1984, we played the first Olympics in Los Angeles. But we need to throw away some of the cultures in our heritage that don't match industrialization because we want to develop. If you go to China, you will find that this is a capitalist country, but the government needs to control the wanton spread of capital. We want to use capital, not to be ruled by capital. We don’t want to be a country ruled by Wall Street. Remember the 99% movement that took place on Wall Street in the United States? It was also suppressed by the United States. Also, if you know the history of Taiwan's military, they originated from the Whampoa Military School in Canton in the 1920s, which was funded by the Soviets and trained by Soviet officers. It can be said that Taiwan's army was established by the Soviet Union

  • @Panchoproductions2069
    @Panchoproductions2069 2 года назад

    Do a video about chile, inmigrants and the cams are destroying the country

  • @GeneralGayJay
    @GeneralGayJay Год назад

    We should put Nato troops there to discourage an invasion.

  • @ReySchultz121
    @ReySchultz121 2 года назад

    You guys sound the same lol.

  • @joeblack4436
    @joeblack4436 2 года назад +10

    Taiwan works. There is no need for anybody to to step in and help them with anything. Let alone some country just coming along and saying... Hey that's mine. Why? Is this the 17th century or something? Leave Taiwan be. It is culturally disparate from China. The indigenous people of Taiwan settled there thousands of years ago. Just because the Dutch and then China colonised parts of it during colonial times, doesn't give China any more right to it, than the British, the Dutch or the French or even Japan have to any part of China. You can't be against colonialism, and be an active colonial power yourself. Let alone in this day and age when the whole world sees what you are doing every step of the way. It was the same with Tibet. For a country that so desperately crave respect from abroad China seems to do its utmost to act in a way sure to lose it. The resentment because of Tibet is still festering strong, no matter how much China has attempted to sweep the matter under the rug. Strong! And it will continue to do so for an entire generation at least. What do they think will happen when everybody in the world sees them first annexing Tibet, then Hong Kong, then Taiwan, any more plans this century? Get ready for HATE. It's already at DESPISE for many.

    • @sarkazm6011
      @sarkazm6011 2 года назад

      But do you realize that every country that is an island needs maybe not so much help, but support? For example, Japan has to buy a lot of raw materials. Is Taiwan Culturally Different? I don't know, I suspect that Chinese culture mixed with Japanese there. I know for sure that both Chinese and Taiwanese speak Mandarin.
      Tibet, however, is different from Taiwan, the story is different. Besides, the last time I checked, Tibet has theoretically been under Chinese care for a good dozen or so years, so?
      Don't get mixed up in Hong Kong, that's another matter. Hong Kong is part of China, not some country or I don't know what yet. Besides, some people in the world know what China is doing and support it, it isn't that everyone will be indignant at what the CCP is doing. There is nothing you can do about it, only show off on the internet, so I advise you to get over it.

    • @joeblack4436
      @joeblack4436 2 года назад +1

      ​@@sarkazm6011 There was undoubtedly some mixing in of both Chinese and Japanese culture at one or another time, definitely in modern times. Taiwan was already settled by its indigenous people in 3000BC. That's 5000 years ago. Those people are still around in Taiwan. And at least up to the Qing dynasty was considered as outside of China's borders, and as an island, even unthinkable to consider for integration into the Chinese empire. During the Qing dynasty, after Dutch and Spanish occupation of the island, such ideas were first discarded in favour of having a presence, although not in the form of actual wholesale occupation. And the Qing dynasty still respected the aboriginal land claim and actually went to great pains to protect it, even from it's own. But as these things go. As more Chinese settlers arrived and well... settled in, things changed. That was not that long ago. Yes the Japanese empire also bunged in there at some point, but this was all fairly recent history in grand scheme of the island nation known today as Taiwan.
      Of course there was never a chance that in hell that China in communist times, with the cultural revolution and all that, least due to the strategic value of the place, would ever keep themselves from doing the wrong thing and just claiming it for themselves wholesale.
      China, like Japan, actually has very little reasonable historic claim to the place. Cultural influence is something else completely. I eat both Chinese and Japanese food every few months. Doesn't mean they have any claim on where I live. As another example US influence no doubt strongly influence Mexican and Canadian culture, but they are still separate fully independent countries with every sovereign right in the world to be so.
      Frankly I find culture-centric arguments in matters of territorial claims to be rather flimsy and from an objective view - Boorish. That's not how it works.
      And sure some people here and there support what China is obviously doing. Many of them former European colonies. Because China is shouting as loud as they can about European colonialism that China itself suffered under, many seem unable to even notice Chinese colonialism happening right in front of their eyes. Or do, but do not really care for the moral side of the argument, and are happy to have a few eggs cracked to make an ideological omelette.
      Then there is also that whole other part of the world, most of it, that China can only convince, with mixed success to look the other way by bribing them with trade. A situation that will not last forever as it really doesn't seem like China wishes to stop any time soon and will most likely push further if Taiwan falls to them. Then all the trade in the world will not stop more countries from actively opposing China's ambitions. In fact demand for goods from China will likely dry up altogether as it becomes existentially prudent to sanction trade with China. Cheap goods can after all not be considered cheap when it comes at the cost of one's sovereignty. That is not cheap at all.

  • @Advaitamanta
    @Advaitamanta Год назад

    Taiwan is more of China than Alaska is of America

  • @dsw86
    @dsw86 2 года назад +5

    By sheer quantity, the Chinese can certainly grow to overwhelm Taiwan militarily and economically around 2025. But that doesn't tell a full story nor does it mean a takeover is inevitable.
    It's only fair to also point out the rampant corruption in the Chinese government+military, and domestic inequality/suppression/crime issues. It adds context where you simply mention a large military budget and the J-20 (which is completely limited in capability to engines Russia allows China to buy).
    Taiwan (along with Western imperialism interference) is much more useful to the Chinese government as a talking point to distract from domestic issues in the Chinese populace. The government also cannot risk war to destabilize the economy which fuels support and complacency among the middle-upper class. China's military, while huge and beyond the corruption, also does not have the capability to meaningfully execute an amphibious assault. As such, the status quo (news of China's growing military, ADIZ flights, verbal threats by foreign ministry, continued messaging of One China and that Taiwan will be reunified, etc.) is extremely convenient for the CPC to hold on to power.

    • @thefrog6065
      @thefrog6065 2 года назад

      WS10C is standard on J20A and WS15 is being tested. AL31Fs are phasing out on the production line.

  • @erichtomanek4739
    @erichtomanek4739 2 года назад +24

    An excellent, well researched video.
    It's easy to listen and understand with informative visuals.
    As to your question:
    R.O.C. Taiwan is an independent nation.
    The communist controlled mainland is under occupation and in all honesty be referred to as West Taiwan.

    • @uncleho3085
      @uncleho3085 2 года назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @redsamson5185
      @redsamson5185 2 года назад +4

      taiwan is a part of china, but has no jurisdiction on the mainland.

    • @wangeliswangelis1464
      @wangeliswangelis1464 2 года назад +9

      Are you delusional?

    • @londoncrow500
      @londoncrow500 2 года назад +3

      Respect your patriotism, but 'west taiwan' is funny.

    • @zz3OPEN
      @zz3OPEN 2 года назад +2

      Taiwan is an example of what mainland China could be without the totalitarian regime of the CCP.

  • @saulgoodmanKAZAKH
    @saulgoodmanKAZAKH 2 года назад +1

    You mean China and West China?

  • @Monalisaseo
    @Monalisaseo 2 года назад

    我還不讚爆

    • @thomasau3204
      @thomasau3204 2 года назад

      赞完了
      再回归现实
      问题依然还在
      继续 吃喝拉撒上班生活

  • @scarecrow9474
    @scarecrow9474 2 года назад

    Is China Taiwan?

  • @modder15
    @modder15 2 года назад +41

    Taiwan deserves to be independent.

    • @user-re5qf7xc3d
      @user-re5qf7xc3d 2 года назад +19

      No, it won't and won't dare

    • @sarkazm6011
      @sarkazm6011 2 года назад +5

      Well, it depends. Can you give reasons why Taiwan deserves to be independent?

    • @user-he3dt7hr4u
      @user-he3dt7hr4u 2 года назад +7

      America will never support that

    • @accent1666
      @accent1666 2 года назад +8

      @@user-he3dt7hr4u and yet it does

    • @user-he3dt7hr4u
      @user-he3dt7hr4u 2 года назад +2

      @@accent1666 where did you get your info? if you can provide a link? for my information, it doesn't America will never support taiwan's independency. if so taiwan will declare independent already