Even if I could only "activate" one book at a time, just being able to hold more than one at a time would have made the book step that much smoother. Heck, I'd take only having one book per weapon at the same time. Having one book period was such a pain.
I did the BLM and PLD Zodiacs back in Heavensward. Then I did WAR in Stormblood, prefarming the rest and sitting on them. Quit when Eureka Pyros burned me out. Came back in 6.1, and did the rest. The friggin' books took me two days per weapon because the FATEs just took sevenever to spawn. I have five alts. _NONE_ of them are touching the Zodiac, even though the SMN book looks nice before it starts getting glowy. No thank you. I gave the game enough masochism doing all 10 Zodiacs, all 13 Anima, and all 15 Physeos on main (Haven't touched Bozja yet in any real depth, not looking forward to it) and I have the materials for all 19 Mandervilles up to Majestic. I think I'm good.
This is an issue with ARR quests in general. I decided recently to do every side quest in the game, and the amount of quests that are a chain is so fucking annoying. QUIT GIVING ME A NEW QUEST AFTER I JUST TURNED IN THE ONE YOU GAVE ME
Zodiac relics are incomparably faster now with data travel, I remember taking like a week to finish one book because fate was never spawning in my playtime window
Another thing that helps now is the rise of BLU mage. With a high level BLU mage with ram's voice and ultravibration, you can two-shot almost any boss fate and, with the flashy DPS BLU spells, you can still clear mob fates pretty fast. And if you keep speed clearing the fates this way, it will force the needed fate to spawn much faster (which can also be cleared insanely fast with BLU compared to literally any other level-syned job).
not to mention increased drop rates of the needed items(atma went from something like a 1%-5% to around a 20% and the dungeons were not a garunteed completion per run, something like 50%, so that 27 dungeon runs was easily more, and not to forget about the second dungeon step later that also was a 50/50 on wether you got the item needed at the end of the dungeon), light, decreased cost of poetic items as well as being able to solo all of the content required.
Getting a Zodiac is essentially saying after every step, "Well that wasn't so bad how bad could it be from here?" and it just gets progressively more mentally draining than the next.
I damn near spit my food out when I saw my Retainers name in a random Video on RUclips! You bought my Vampire's Knives! I guess the premelded ones I was selling were already gone... Little did I know what adventures those knives would see. Congrats on the -Zodiac- Zeta Weapon!
Comparing making a relic weapon now to how it was in Arr aint possible. You have some basic things like: - Drop rates in arr (were back in arr as low as 0.5-1%) - Not being able to fly - There was a limit on how many tomes you could get a week for the relic. The books also cost like 500 each - The anima books used to have 10 of each mob, while it only spawned 3 at a time, so you would have the whole server camping the same 3 dudes... - The respawn timers of some of the fates had up to a 72 hours of respawn time... - Light grind was hell since it was complelty random which fight was on bonus. And you got so little light from each thing. - Zeta atmas was.. special since it was a small chance to get your atma drop from your dungeon, and you didnt get it until the end of the dungeon, so each dungeon taking about 20 mins to do... - Materia grind, you would break your alexandriets as well if you failed, and it was a reallyy frustrating since you only got 1 map for free each day (from the expert roulette.) and you only got 1 per map. The list goes on.
@BrunoLopes-ou1gy I agree that Eureka and Bozja grinds are longer. But I do think that the ARR grind is worse because there's next to no new content for it, unlike Bozja and Eureka with unique zones, bosses, and raids.
@BrunoLopes-ou1gy Plus, Almost all of the ARR relics look bad except for the final versions imo, so it's less rewarding to recieve the earlier versions.
@@Bruiser7985 when it's a current content I agree, it could be very fun to do, at least once. But after that it's very frustrating to do because you rely on other people who probably already did that for you to finish what you want. I hope eureka become popular again with the free trial up to stormblood than I'll be able to finish it.
@@BrunoLopes-ou1gy To be fair I started Eureka this month and it's been extremely populated at when I've played. I had no issues finding prep groups and NM farm groups
The daily instance cap is exactly 100, I saw this from Blue Mage gil farming videos. The instance caps will block you out from doing solo quest duties and Gold Saucer Gates such as Leap of Faith and Airforce one as well (The stage ones and the chocobo hatchling are still fine since they are not instanced). I think I once reached the cap through Chocobo Racing.
The trick is to start at 7 am (or 9 hours before reset) and have the reset occur right between all the dungeon runs. There is some leeway, but timing is key.
I completed all Zodiac relics. I hadn't realized the toll it took on me until watching this video made me feel physically ill. But congrats on your relic!
I remember back in the day I got all the ATMA in one day and my friends still talk about it to this day. I can't even complain about rng in this game because they bring up the atma incident everytime and are just like "girl shut up, eff you"😂 xD
i just did this the other day. although after doing the books i doubt ill ever use the other atma. lol but at least i have them all just in case i guess.
As someone who's done half the weapons available and only got 2 book grinds left, they're fun to do in downtime when you dunno what you wanna do on any game, but to do it in 1 day you've actually lost the plot 😂 Amazing stuff though still, congrats 👏
I find it silly that SE hasn't just axed the gil drops from ARR/HW dungeons instead of imposing that silly duty limit because they don't exist in SB onwards, but have historically been one of the most heavily farmed sources of gil for bots. The drops are too small to be meaningful to normal players so I kind of doubt anyone would actually miss them.
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Great video, Rinon. I did the NIN weap myself and a BLM one and can tell you your chat definitely did you a favor. Maybe unintentionally because they wanted you to suffer but optimized you can finish Aurumn Vale with NIN in like 1:09 or even faster. And the weapon looks the best imo from all ARR ones. Even better than the Ultimate daggers of any Ultimates. With BLM it would've been major pain to farm fates AND run Aurumn AND do books. I thought you're on Light not Chaos. Thanks for the p12s guide it's pretty standard here.
The *best* way I've found to farm these is to do it with 2 other people. Every book has 3 FATEs, so you just have one person sit in each zone. None of the FATEs up? Queue for a dungeon. FATE up? Everyone goes to do it and then goes back to their designated zone. Rinse and repeat. It's great.
I remember doing my light grind last year for my first weapon, optimising it, reporting to friends on my fastest times, declinging sanity. They at least pulled me out every now and then for raids and roulette, would have gone truly mad otherwise
I'm gonna feel bad saying this... but apparently the most efficient way to get light is to see which one has the bonus out of the three dungeons. Tam-tara, Stone Vigil, and Aurum Vale. You unsync all three of them and you spam the one that gives you the "blinding" bonus that shifts every two hours that's better than the brilliant light that you were getting spamming Aurum Vale. ...man I can't believe you actually hit the duty cap.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I also did this in one day, but never actually hit the dungeon limit thanks to the bonus light which is actually the most hidden, trash mechanic in the entire game. Actually, maybe the game tells you there is a bonus for light, but its so easily missable.
I dont think so, is the ban only for doing dungeons? Even if it isnt, ex trials, garuda and moogle to be specific, are for what i have seen by far the best way to farm light at lvl cap.
@@blkhailink5963I calculated the time required to do a few of them at the time. It's definitely been a while so I lost those numbers. Anything that required duty finder will lock you out unfortunately.
@@blkhailink5963 Assuming you don't have a fast dungeon with bonus (which would most likely be the fastest regardless), then yeah, an EX that you can clear in 2/3 the time (or same time, if the EX has a bonus) of a dungeon would break even on time, and you should be able to make even better. Another option to consider: Ifrit Normal (4-man version, not "Hard") gives 1/4 the light of non-bonus EX or 1/6 the light of EX w/ bonus, and can be killed the second the intro circle drops. At least with fast load times, this becomes very competitive with EX. But either way, since these are trials, they do not count towards the ~100 dungeons/day limit.
I did PLD's Zodiac relic before I even got to HW, during EW. At level 60. On the free trial. It was awful. Keep in mind that "it's easier now" does NOT mean "it's easy". Also, for those giving it a try, Garuda Extreme is better than Aurum Vale for the first light farm. Faster by two thirds, for only slightly less light. If you have two level 90 dps, you can get it done in *9* seconds. Recently helped a friend through theirs and that's how we did that step. Just spamming the quest and trying to beat the time each run. I think our lowest was 6 seconds if we got every hit off just right.
Garuda is faster, but if you're ever worried about hitting the duty limit (if you want to do duty roulettes or cap tomes the same day) then Aurum is better.
I enjoyed the pain so much, I did all 10 of them For the levepart, if u hold the ones u dont want, the leves will be forced to pick the ones u want to fill the pool, making that part pretty much not RNG at all, especially handy if u do multiple relics
Some of your tips helped me in my free trial zodiac journey, and after completing the first I decided I had not felt enough pain and began gathering the materials to make the other 9 relics
I've done like 4-5 Zetas and the last 2 were a breeze because of World travel. It makes Books so much faster it's a night and day difference. I think my last weapon I finished in 2 days.
im on my 6th ARR weapon, you can get the crafted step open as you're doing books (after the first weapon) so the dungeons you do for books also work for the crafted step
The biggest thing I like about the ARR relics is that they can be used in the Heavensward relics. The idea that they are the culmination of your time in ARR, travel with you through Heavensward, and in some form they continue to grow in power is such a neat concept.
honestly i just wish they kept that in for each new relic, giving you a chance to have a set of truly personal weapons that continued to grow with you, something you really crafted yourself from the ground up. plus then youd only need to make one set of weapons, and each time you turn it in you can keep access to the replicas without hogging inventory space
What amazing accomplishment, ARR RELIC in 1 day!, i remember getting a PLD relic weapon right after i beat ARR when i was like lvl 62 and broke, the whole ARR relic took me like an month to complete
the tip about picking up the levequests in advance for future books is an absolute godsend as i'm literally on the books step of a zodiac weapon grind right now.... my second one, that is. wish i'd thought of doing that on the first one! but at least i can do it on this second time around.
I didn't do my ARR Relic in 1 day, but I did do it on the Free Trial. No market board access - I had to get all of the materia and crafted items manually! I worked on it slowly in the background and it took like 3 months - mostly because of the materia and a couple of craft materials that can only drop from certain treasure maps. The 300k gil cap was also a bit of an issue with regards to getting the desynth items since they only come from overpriced vendor items.
light farming can be done in half an hour ish with spamming ifrit, 3 seconds per run its longer to load in and out than do the fight. works for both light farms
This only works on JP, in NA you have to alternate between King Moogle EX and Ifrit EX otherwise you will get RP locked every other Ifrit run. Still a lot faster than Aurum vale farming, though. Difference between ~128 Light/min vs. ~48 Light/min.
I have personally hit the instance cap before. I had enough supplies to grind out two HW relic weapons, and I was also working on getting a mount in an extreme trial the same day. I did a bunch of unsynced runs of the old Xtreme trial, then did a whole bunch more instanced runs as part of The relic grind, and I hit the 100 limit.
you dont need to comeplete a leve, you can just pick one up and abandon it and it still refreshes the list, picking up a level changes the list not completing them
I remember doing the bow together with a friend because it was such a pain, we could only handle one book a day because after that we were already exhausted. Luckily he was also a rich crafter so getting some of the items was easier. But that didn't stop me from going "Are we done yet?" after every step. Having the stamina and motivation to do this in one day baffles me (and I learned of the duty limit I never heard anything about) so congrats. Also I really like the Zeta weapon designs, feel like they totally hold up to modern relics
i do remember these caps were added for safety of players health. it seems odd but i do recall an interview where they explained why this exists. its not to deal with bots though but thats most i recall other than what i mentioned as possible recalled factoids.
Last year I decided I wanted to get all of the ARR relics done. So I've been slowly working on doing the steps for all of them one by one. I only have three relics to get past the books.
I got my Yoichi Bow Zeta before Heavensward released. It took quite a bit of effort, but having that sweet glowy boy going into the next bit of content was fantastic.
you can also get a lot of alexandrite pretty quick by doing the treasure maps for them, which is a looooot faster than any of the other methods. (but still not quite as fast as already having them im a retainer I guess lol)
definitely make sure you hang onto that weapon because unlike every other relic weapon, you have to actually bring the completed zodiak weapon with you to the replica vendor to buy versions of any of the steps for glam
When I did the Atma stage at release, I was able to get the second set in less than an hour(basically two weapons done). That pissed a lot of people off that were still hunting for 1 in the same zone when I returned.
I just finished my second zodiac and for the final light farm and there's two things that really struck me. (books are books, nothing special here) This go around, for my final step, I bribed a friend with the inferno horns we'd find and did ifrit ex. At 30 seconds each run and 2-3 runs per mahatma, this step did not take that long. The backbreaker here is the books, and the gil step if you dont have that much. I only had 1.5 mil going into this and now I hover at about 50k. Still, congrats on your weapon! the Zodiacs are one of the best looking weapons in the game
Good job. For the next challenge/Zodiac, try doing it old-school. No server/DC hopping, no pre-farming Alexandrites and start the run with 0 poetics :D
fun fact. You don't ahve to turn the leve in to trigger a new one showing up. You just have to complete it. this works 95% of the time, so you can actually forcably get the entire leve list from a single levemete into your quest log at once. It doenst' fix everyting but it takes a big bite out of the RNG aspect of it
Just watching JustRuss' reaction to this and when you talked about Alexandrite and the tome requirements of those one thing I suddenly remembered was there is another way to collect Alexandrite if you are insane enough to do it. If you farm FATEs in ARR with the Animus weapon equipped they sometimes can drop 1 Alexandrite at about the same rate as the atma with the Zenith weapon.
Hey there! This was an awesome video. I'm gonna watch the lone hero one like you suggested, although it would be cool if you put a link to the videos that you recommend in the description or a pinned comment
FYI just did my ARR relic yesterday (took me 3 days) but at the last step where you need to farm light 12 times me and a friend ran the trial ultima's Bane. 6 second clear time and only takes 5 runs per step. It works on the light farming in the earlier step as well and is SO MUCH FASTER than running dungeons. Finished that step in less than 1 hour.
For the book step if your fate isn’t popping up I’m 99 percent sure you can just start doing the other fates in the area to get your desired fate to spawn when I’ve done this before assuming my fate hasn’t spawned yet it takes me 5-10 minutes to spawn in my experience
I started a zodiac weapon years ago, and I quit partway through my first book. It's still there in my quest inventory, using space, next to the obsolete Aether Compass I don't want to discard.
It took me a month or two to grind out my Zodiac weapon. I had the bright idea to go out of my way to level up all my crafters to 50, gear them up (and collect all of the Supra/Lucis tools) so that I could do the craft parts on my own.
you can also grind all the atma crystals early if you plan on getting all ARR relic weapons. I have like 2 and a half ARR relics and it's the worst grind in the game because of the SHEER amount of dungeons you have to run as well as the atma grinding (if you grind for all 12 weapons at once)
See even though everyone complains about the books at least they keep you actively engaged. Grinding aurum vale for light was easily the worst part for me too.
Lol I did mine with monk. It took a week for mine. There is nothing on the net about this but the fates with axe icons have the highest drop rate for atma. This was discovered after multiple are relic weps. The odds always greatly increased on those fates compared to others.
I did only a Zodiac weapon and was for the Warrior Axe and tbh, the light farm was the thing that traumatized me and made me never want to step into Sastasha again. I chose to spam Sastasha because I could 1 shot most things with the relic still so I wouldn't accidentally forget to swap weapons before exiting dungeon/equipping it before the final boss.
As someone with a primitive brain as mine I only recently finished the Zodiac warr relic I had, after 3 yrs of procastanating after the Anima step And as a Free Trial still, m ways of grinding are.... old school xD I have since then decided in the future to get every other relic for all jobs, in all expansions Just for the replica glam to store in my dresser to take unnccessary space This vid was exactly what I needed to remind me of the brain damage I must've suffered to cloud out these memories and the choices ahead Your videos have been very informative and entertaining :> And your Miqo'te is very precious in both ingame design and digital art design, the arts you have of her are very lovely x3 Thank you for being you!
I have done two grinds that get respect even among old players. I did the pteranodon grind before it got easier, and I possess a logistics node for winning 200 Frontline matches in player versus player content. I'm currently working on the rarest of the PVP mounts, the mech suit called construct 7. That one has been frustrating in the extreme.
as someone that has near all the relics and is working on completing my last 3 manderville relics, i just hope dawntrail has hand/land relics, i liked doing those~
Why did you do Aurum Vale? Tam-Tara Deepcroft is so much easier unsynced and gives the same amount of light. ;) Also, I did not realize that there is a 100 duty limit cap which bans you from Duty Finder until the reset. I guess it's because I didn't do 100 dungeons in a single day.
Tam tara has object interactions and delayed mob spawning. For av, no need to kill the mobs except bosses and the morbols so av may be easier for dps unsync I guess
When you said that people complained about getting the Atma items from FATEs and how it took them days, I got all 12 within an hour or 2. Alone. My luck from shiny hunting apparently applies to relic grinding in XIV.
Unsynced didn't exist in ARR, dungeons were a lot harder then they are now, drop rates are improved from what they were.. In short everything is a lot easier now then they used to be.
I've been occasionally going back to my Paladin weapon to slowly work my way through its upgrades. I've literally been working on the Curtana+Holy Shield for a decade without finishing it. Now I started doing the Thyrus a couple of days ago, and I'm currently stuck on collecting the 12 Atma because Maiden just refuses to drop.
I'm working on my first one right now. Still on the twelve atma step and I have....one for my WAR weapon after three days. My partner did it when it was still relevant, so I I feel bad griping about it, but this is going to be hell. 😅
it took me 1 year to do all the ARR relics and about 25-50million Gil and 1 ARR relic requires about 1.4million gil in total to complete each Arr Relic requires close to that much gil to do
I have done Zodiac weapons (when able to no-life them) in about 3 days each on average entirely solo. I genuinely recommend using Bozja for grinding poetics and just AFK for FATEs to spawn at specific locations rather than seever hopping so you retain your sanity.
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The books are what killed me. Just let me hold every book at one time
I was literally sitting on the book quest for like 2 years. Completed HW relic instead
Even if I could only "activate" one book at a time, just being able to hold more than one at a time would have made the book step that much smoother. Heck, I'd take only having one book per weapon at the same time. Having one book period was such a pain.
It really is JUST the books. The books require more work than the entirety of an Anima or Eureka weapon. It's ridiculous.
I did the BLM and PLD Zodiacs back in Heavensward. Then I did WAR in Stormblood, prefarming the rest and sitting on them. Quit when Eureka Pyros burned me out. Came back in 6.1, and did the rest. The friggin' books took me two days per weapon because the FATEs just took sevenever to spawn.
I have five alts. _NONE_ of them are touching the Zodiac, even though the SMN book looks nice before it starts getting glowy. No thank you. I gave the game enough masochism doing all 10 Zodiacs, all 13 Anima, and all 15 Physeos on main (Haven't touched Bozja yet in any real depth, not looking forward to it) and I have the materials for all 19 Mandervilles up to Majestic. I think I'm good.
This is an issue with ARR quests in general. I decided recently to do every side quest in the game, and the amount of quests that are a chain is so fucking annoying. QUIT GIVING ME A NEW QUEST AFTER I JUST TURNED IN THE ONE YOU GAVE ME
Zodiac relics are incomparably faster now with data travel, I remember taking like a week to finish one book because fate was never spawning in my playtime window
I'll never forget Taken in Southern Thanalan, and how many days I sat there waiting for it to spawn
omg why i didn't think of data travel
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Another thing that helps now is the rise of BLU mage. With a high level BLU mage with ram's voice and ultravibration, you can two-shot almost any boss fate and, with the flashy DPS BLU spells, you can still clear mob fates pretty fast. And if you keep speed clearing the fates this way, it will force the needed fate to spawn much faster (which can also be cleared insanely fast with BLU compared to literally any other level-syned job).
not to mention increased drop rates of the needed items(atma went from something like a 1%-5% to around a 20% and the dungeons were not a garunteed completion per run, something like 50%, so that 27 dungeon runs was easily more, and not to forget about the second dungeon step later that also was a 50/50 on wether you got the item needed at the end of the dungeon), light, decreased cost of poetic items as well as being able to solo all of the content required.
Getting a Zodiac is essentially saying after every step, "Well that wasn't so bad how bad could it be from here?" and it just gets progressively more mentally draining than the next.
Now for the low low price of 50 Alexandrite and one extra quest you get access to the best kettles in town.
With the new Martialist shirt dyed red, you can make a good Ranma Saotome cosplay too.
So that's why he had bought 125 of it back in the day...
I damn near spit my food out when I saw my Retainers name in a random Video on RUclips!
You bought my Vampire's Knives! I guess the premelded ones I was selling were already gone...
Little did I know what adventures those knives would see.
Congrats on the -Zodiac- Zeta Weapon!
Comparing making a relic weapon now to how it was in Arr aint possible. You have some basic things like:
- Drop rates in arr (were back in arr as low as 0.5-1%)
- Not being able to fly
- There was a limit on how many tomes you could get a week for the relic. The books also cost like 500 each
- The anima books used to have 10 of each mob, while it only spawned 3 at a time, so you would have the whole server camping the same 3 dudes...
- The respawn timers of some of the fates had up to a 72 hours of respawn time...
- Light grind was hell since it was complelty random which fight was on bonus. And you got so little light from each thing.
- Zeta atmas was.. special since it was a small chance to get your atma drop from your dungeon, and you didnt get it until the end of the dungeon, so each dungeon taking about 20 mins to do...
- Materia grind, you would break your alexandriets as well if you failed, and it was a reallyy frustrating since you only got 1 map for free each day (from the expert roulette.) and you only got 1 per map.
The list goes on.
And I see people complaining how grind this is TODAY, when there is eureka em bozja that are much worst.
@BrunoLopes-ou1gy I agree that Eureka and Bozja grinds are longer. But I do think that the ARR grind is worse because there's next to no new content for it, unlike Bozja and Eureka with unique zones, bosses, and raids.
@BrunoLopes-ou1gy Plus, Almost all of the ARR relics look bad except for the final versions imo, so it's less rewarding to recieve the earlier versions.
@@Bruiser7985 when it's a current content I agree, it could be very fun to do, at least once. But after that it's very frustrating to do because you rely on other people who probably already did that for you to finish what you want. I hope eureka become popular again with the free trial up to stormblood than I'll be able to finish it.
@@BrunoLopes-ou1gy To be fair I started Eureka this month and it's been extremely populated at when I've played. I had no issues finding prep groups and NM farm groups
The daily instance cap is exactly 100, I saw this from Blue Mage gil farming videos. The instance caps will block you out from doing solo quest duties and Gold Saucer Gates such as Leap of Faith and Airforce one as well (The stage ones and the chocobo hatchling are still fine since they are not instanced).
I think I once reached the cap through Chocobo Racing.
The trick is to start at 7 am (or 9 hours before reset) and have the reset occur right between all the dungeon runs. There is some leeway, but timing is key.
I completed all Zodiac relics. I hadn't realized the toll it took on me until watching this video made me feel physically ill. But congrats on your relic!
I remember back in the day I got all the ATMA in one day and my friends still talk about it to this day. I can't even complain about rng in this game because they bring up the atma incident everytime and are just like "girl shut up, eff you"😂
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i just did this the other day. although after doing the books i doubt ill ever use the other atma. lol but at least i have them all just in case i guess.
“You need to complete Aurum Vale 42 times.” So confirmed, Aurum Vale *is* the meaning of life
I did it in 2 days. Horrible mind numbing, but its easy to do.
Did this step change or something? I swear that wasn't the most efficient thing to do before, I thought it was one of the extremes or raids?
@@KazumiKiguma Ya idk, back in ShB I remember spamming Ifrit ex over and over again instead of Aurum Vale as it was the most efficient.
I think back in the day they said Tam-Tara Deepcroft. Because it is easy and short enough that even as an actual Level 50 player you can do it solo
As someone who's done half the weapons available and only got 2 book grinds left, they're fun to do in downtime when you dunno what you wanna do on any game, but to do it in 1 day you've actually lost the plot 😂
Amazing stuff though still, congrats 👏
I find it silly that SE hasn't just axed the gil drops from ARR/HW dungeons instead of imposing that silly duty limit because they don't exist in SB onwards, but have historically been one of the most heavily farmed sources of gil for bots.
The drops are too small to be meaningful to normal players so I kind of doubt anyone would actually miss them.
StB and on still gives gil, its just all moved to the bosses
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Great video, Rinon. I did the NIN weap myself and a BLM one and can tell you your chat definitely did you a favor. Maybe unintentionally because they wanted you to suffer but optimized you can finish Aurumn Vale with NIN in like 1:09 or even faster. And the weapon looks the best imo from all ARR ones. Even better than the Ultimate daggers of any Ultimates. With BLM it would've been major pain to farm fates AND run Aurumn AND do books. I thought you're on Light not Chaos. Thanks for the p12s guide it's pretty standard here.
The *best* way I've found to farm these is to do it with 2 other people. Every book has 3 FATEs, so you just have one person sit in each zone. None of the FATEs up? Queue for a dungeon. FATE up? Everyone goes to do it and then goes back to their designated zone. Rinse and repeat. It's great.
I remember doing my light grind last year for my first weapon, optimising it, reporting to friends on my fastest times, declinging sanity. They at least pulled me out every now and then for raids and roulette, would have gone truly mad otherwise
I'm gonna feel bad saying this... but apparently the most efficient way to get light is to see which one has the bonus out of the three dungeons.
Tam-tara, Stone Vigil, and Aurum Vale.
You unsync all three of them and you spam the one that gives you the "blinding" bonus that shifts every two hours that's better than the brilliant light that you were getting spamming Aurum Vale.
...man I can't believe you actually hit the duty cap.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I also did this in one day, but never actually hit the dungeon limit thanks to the bonus light which is actually the most hidden, trash mechanic in the entire game. Actually, maybe the game tells you there is a bonus for light, but its so easily missable.
I dont think so, is the ban only for doing dungeons? Even if it isnt, ex trials, garuda and moogle to be specific, are for what i have seen by far the best way to farm light at lvl cap.
@@blkhailink5963I calculated the time required to do a few of them at the time. It's definitely been a while so I lost those numbers. Anything that required duty finder will lock you out unfortunately.
@@ShoryukenPizza thats a shame, never did the farm in a single day so i never saw it happen before
@@blkhailink5963 Assuming you don't have a fast dungeon with bonus (which would most likely be the fastest regardless), then yeah, an EX that you can clear in 2/3 the time (or same time, if the EX has a bonus) of a dungeon would break even on time, and you should be able to make even better. Another option to consider: Ifrit Normal (4-man version, not "Hard") gives 1/4 the light of non-bonus EX or 1/6 the light of EX w/ bonus, and can be killed the second the intro circle drops. At least with fast load times, this becomes very competitive with EX.
But either way, since these are trials, they do not count towards the ~100 dungeons/day limit.
I did PLD's Zodiac relic before I even got to HW, during EW. At level 60. On the free trial.
It was awful.
Keep in mind that "it's easier now" does NOT mean "it's easy".
Also, for those giving it a try, Garuda Extreme is better than Aurum Vale for the first light farm. Faster by two thirds, for only slightly less light. If you have two level 90 dps, you can get it done in *9* seconds. Recently helped a friend through theirs and that's how we did that step. Just spamming the quest and trying to beat the time each run. I think our lowest was 6 seconds if we got every hit off just right.
I mean, a summoner can kill Garuda Extreme in 7-8 seconds with their first GCD if they have 550+ gear.
Garuda is faster, but if you're ever worried about hitting the duty limit (if you want to do duty roulettes or cap tomes the same day) then Aurum is better.
yes it's EXTREMELY easy sweetheart lol
@@penultimania4295 I see you skipped the clarifications and went straight to "no you're wrong lol"
class act, keep it up
@@guilegale8942 no, if you're doing the relic farm before you're max level you're just stupid, it's as simple as that.
I enjoyed the pain so much, I did all 10 of them
For the levepart, if u hold the ones u dont want, the leves will be forced to pick the ones u want to fill the pool, making that part pretty much not RNG at all, especially handy if u do multiple relics
Some of your tips helped me in my free trial zodiac journey, and after completing the first I decided I had not felt enough pain and began gathering the materials to make the other 9 relics
Now that I've watched your video I think I'll give it a go!! Thanks for sharing the process XD
I've done like 4-5 Zetas and the last 2 were a breeze because of World travel. It makes Books so much faster it's a night and day difference. I think my last weapon I finished in 2 days.
im on my 6th ARR weapon, you can get the crafted step open as you're doing books (after the first weapon) so the dungeons you do for books also work for the crafted step
The biggest thing I like about the ARR relics is that they can be used in the Heavensward relics. The idea that they are the culmination of your time in ARR, travel with you through Heavensward, and in some form they continue to grow in power is such a neat concept.
honestly i just wish they kept that in for each new relic, giving you a chance to have a set of truly personal weapons that continued to grow with you, something you really crafted yourself from the ground up. plus then youd only need to make one set of weapons, and each time you turn it in you can keep access to the replicas without hogging inventory space
for materia I and II, i use crafted hq right side with slots when i gather or craft. The spiritbond really quickly and i extract materia 1s from that.
What amazing accomplishment, ARR RELIC in 1 day!, i remember getting a PLD relic weapon right after i beat ARR when i was like lvl 62 and broke, the whole ARR relic took me like an month to complete
i have yet to do a Zodiac weapon or do UWU but i feel like uwu prog would go faster than an arr relic xd
the tip about picking up the levequests in advance for future books is an absolute godsend as i'm literally on the books step of a zodiac weapon grind right now.... my second one, that is. wish i'd thought of doing that on the first one! but at least i can do it on this second time around.
where can I find a list of all the leves I need? I can't seem to find a list online
@@EndyTTV i think i looked it up on ffxiv consolegameswiki
I didn't do my ARR Relic in 1 day, but I did do it on the Free Trial. No market board access - I had to get all of the materia and crafted items manually! I worked on it slowly in the background and it took like 3 months - mostly because of the materia and a couple of craft materials that can only drop from certain treasure maps. The 300k gil cap was also a bit of an issue with regards to getting the desynth items since they only come from overpriced vendor items.
light farming can be done in half an hour ish with spamming ifrit, 3 seconds per run its longer to load in and out than do the fight.
works for both light farms
This only works on JP, in NA you have to alternate between King Moogle EX and Ifrit EX otherwise you will get RP locked every other Ifrit run. Still a lot faster than Aurum vale farming, though. Difference between ~128 Light/min vs. ~48 Light/min.
@@Jade-nn3bnworks on both EU and OCE too. NA being the outlier
It's crazy how much easier this game is as a streamer
sounds like a skill issue to me
@@RinBanana sounds like you should be able you do it solo and without having alexandrite ahead of time
The Instance Cap. I wasn’t expecting it but here we are. That’s insane.
I have personally hit the instance cap before. I had enough supplies to grind out two HW relic weapons, and I was also working on getting a mount in an extreme trial the same day. I did a bunch of unsynced runs of the old Xtreme trial, then did a whole bunch more instanced runs as part of The relic grind, and I hit the 100 limit.
The way I did atmas way back when was to stay in a zone until I had atmas for each weapon.
Meanwhile there is me, 7 month player chilling down the game slowly, doing one book per day to preserve my sanity.
you dont need to comeplete a leve, you can just pick one up and abandon it and it still refreshes the list, picking up a level changes the list not completing them
done with my 6th almost, 4 more to go ^^
Did all 60/70/80 relics.
Love relics ♥
Was great to watch that!
I’d love them to let you do at least 2 books at a time even though I’m down to 3 to complete.
Subscribed, absolutely madman
I actually finished 4 or 5 Atma grinds over the years just randomly doing a FATE now and again as I passed thru the areas.
When you said you did the vail 42 times my jaw dropped.. I’m so sorry. Sending you my hopes and prayers
So the key is to start maybe 12hrs after daily reset to prevent the bot prevention mechanism.
I remember doing the bow together with a friend because it was such a pain, we could only handle one book a day because after that we were already exhausted.
Luckily he was also a rich crafter so getting some of the items was easier. But that didn't stop me from going "Are we done yet?" after every step.
Having the stamina and motivation to do this in one day baffles me (and I learned of the duty limit I never heard anything about) so congrats.
Also I really like the Zeta weapon designs, feel like they totally hold up to modern relics
is your friend me?
i did the exact same thing with a friend of mine and i crafted everything that needed to be crafted.
we did 1 book a day as well.
@@Maeve_Rose Guess that's just the best way to do it without losing your sanity
i do remember these caps were added for safety of players health. it seems odd but i do recall an interview where they explained why this exists. its not to deal with bots though but thats most i recall other than what i mentioned as possible recalled factoids.
Last year I decided I wanted to get all of the ARR relics done. So I've been slowly working on doing the steps for all of them one by one. I only have three relics to get past the books.
What is the chest piece you're wearing at the beginning of the video?
I got my Yoichi Bow Zeta before Heavensward released. It took quite a bit of effort, but having that sweet glowy boy going into the next bit of content was fantastic.
you can also get a lot of alexandrite pretty quick by doing the treasure maps for them, which is a looooot faster than any of the other methods. (but still not quite as fast as already having them im a retainer I guess lol)
oh! i never knew you were playing on the same server as I. well done btw!
definitely make sure you hang onto that weapon because unlike every other relic weapon, you have to actually bring the completed zodiak weapon with you to the replica vendor to buy versions of any of the steps for glam
i love the defense fate in north la noscea, thats fails after arround 50 seconds. i was camping this spot for 40 min until the fate finally apeared
When I did the Atma stage at release, I was able to get the second set in less than an hour(basically two weapons done). That pissed a lot of people off that were still hunting for 1 in the same zone when I returned.
I just finished my second zodiac and for the final light farm and there's two things that really struck me. (books are books, nothing special here) This go around, for my final step, I bribed a friend with the inferno horns we'd find and did ifrit ex. At 30 seconds each run and 2-3 runs per mahatma, this step did not take that long. The backbreaker here is the books, and the gil step if you dont have that much. I only had 1.5 mil going into this and now I hover at about 50k. Still, congrats on your weapon! the Zodiacs are one of the best looking weapons in the game
Does anyone know where to find that list of levequests he mentions?
Good job. For the next challenge/Zodiac, try doing it old-school. No server/DC hopping, no pre-farming Alexandrites and start the run with 0 poetics :D
I swear, when I grinded for my ARR Bow, I got aneurism on my aneurism. It was prolly longest grind I did in this game, ngl.
omg you made me wanna continue my long time abandoned zodiac weapon
Trying to do Zodiacs on White Mage and Paladin be cause it looks cool and i wanted glams for those classes.
It takes me hours to do one book.
for light farm, I prefer 5sec ifrit normal runs. Even without bonus light its comparable to aurum vale WITH bonus light
fun fact. You don't ahve to turn the leve in to trigger a new one showing up. You just have to complete it. this works 95% of the time, so you can actually forcably get the entire leve list from a single levemete into your quest log at once. It doenst' fix everyting but it takes a big bite out of the RNG aspect of it
finishing my 5th Arr Relic weapon soon.. not going into HW until i finish all 10.. doing the relic weapons gives you at least 30 levels lol
I have only ever done the PLD one, and i can't see myself doing it again. At least not until i have all of the crafters levelled
Just watching JustRuss' reaction to this and when you talked about Alexandrite and the tome requirements of those one thing I suddenly remembered was there is another way to collect Alexandrite if you are insane enough to do it. If you farm FATEs in ARR with the Animus weapon equipped they sometimes can drop 1 Alexandrite at about the same rate as the atma with the Zenith weapon.
Hey there! This was an awesome video. I'm gonna watch the lone hero one like you suggested, although it would be cool if you put a link to the videos that you recommend in the description or a pinned comment
This video really puts into perspective how easy this grind is when you just marketboard through half of it
FYI just did my ARR relic yesterday (took me 3 days) but at the last step where you need to farm light 12 times me and a friend ran the trial ultima's Bane. 6 second clear time and only takes 5 runs per step. It works on the light farming in the earlier step as well and is SO MUCH FASTER than running dungeons. Finished that step in less than 1 hour.
Here i am watching this as i wait for the 24 hour patch, i just finished arr and im doing all the in-between expansions
For the book step if your fate isn’t popping up I’m 99 percent sure you can just start doing the other fates in the area to get your desired fate to spawn when I’ve done this before assuming my fate hasn’t spawned yet it takes me 5-10 minutes to spawn in my experience
17:21 im stuck at this step rn, im poor af. Not sure on what to do to get that much gil :(
I'm getting sleepy just watching you do the book step, I did it twice and still want to do a third one but god damn is it monotonous
I'm currently working on the veil of wiyu in free trial, the grind is insane
I started a zodiac weapon years ago, and I quit partway through my first book.
It's still there in my quest inventory, using space, next to the obsolete Aether Compass I don't want to discard.
Of course we don't want to discard it! It's a present from our oldest friend, after all.
This relic weapon grind will always and forever be part of my ffxiv journey. Im damn proud i also got through it.
It took me a month or two to grind out my Zodiac weapon. I had the bright idea to go out of my way to level up all my crafters to 50, gear them up (and collect all of the Supra/Lucis tools) so that I could do the craft parts on my own.
you can also grind all the atma crystals early if you plan on getting all ARR relic weapons. I have like 2 and a half ARR relics and it's the worst grind in the game because of the SHEER amount of dungeons you have to run as well as the atma grinding (if you grind for all 12 weapons at once)
See even though everyone complains about the books at least they keep you actively engaged. Grinding aurum vale for light was easily the worst part for me too.
For light farming you can also run 63 times mogry king extreme wich takes about 30 sec per run
Btw, what's the dress you're using, I love the armor dress combo and had an idea for a glam
If you mean in the thumbnail, it's the Neo-Ishgardian top of fending!
@@RinBanana thank you!
Lol I did mine with monk. It took a week for mine.
There is nothing on the net about this but the fates with axe icons have the highest drop rate for atma. This was discovered after multiple are relic weps. The odds always greatly increased on those fates compared to others.
I did only a Zodiac weapon and was for the Warrior Axe and tbh, the light farm was the thing that traumatized me and made me never want to step into Sastasha again. I chose to spam Sastasha because I could 1 shot most things with the relic still so I wouldn't accidentally forget to swap weapons before exiting dungeon/equipping it before the final boss.
So, this is my third week on ffxiv. Anyone know where I can find a guide to getting Excalibur? ; - ;
Wow i had no idea duties had a daily limit, thats a huge shocker right there 😮
As someone with a primitive brain as mine
I only recently finished the Zodiac warr relic I had, after 3 yrs of procastanating after the Anima step
And as a Free Trial still, m ways of grinding are.... old school xD
I have since then decided in the future to get every other relic for all jobs, in all expansions
Just for the replica glam to store in my dresser to take unnccessary space
This vid was exactly what I needed to remind me of the brain damage I must've suffered to cloud out these memories and the choices ahead
Your videos have been very informative and entertaining :>
And your Miqo'te is very precious in both ingame design and digital art design, the arts you have of her are very lovely x3
Thank you for being you!
I have done two grinds that get respect even among old players.
I did the pteranodon grind before it got easier, and I possess a logistics node for winning 200 Frontline matches in player versus player content. I'm currently working on the rarest of the PVP mounts, the mech suit called construct 7. That one has been frustrating in the extreme.
I did all 10 relics in a few weeks. I had covid and no responsibilities and all of netflix at my disposal. I actually enjoyed myself strangely enough
as someone that has near all the relics and is working on completing my last 3 manderville relics,
i just hope dawntrail has hand/land relics, i liked doing those~
Why did you do Aurum Vale? Tam-Tara Deepcroft is so much easier unsynced and gives the same amount of light. ;)
Also, I did not realize that there is a 100 duty limit cap which bans you from Duty Finder until the reset. I guess it's because I didn't do 100 dungeons in a single day.
Tam tara has object interactions and delayed mob spawning. For av, no need to kill the mobs except bosses and the morbols so av may be easier for dps unsync I guess
When you said that people complained about getting the Atma items from FATEs and how it took them days, I got all 12 within an hour or 2. Alone.
My luck from shiny hunting apparently applies to relic grinding in XIV.
Unsynced didn't exist in ARR, dungeons were a lot harder then they are now, drop rates are improved from what they were.. In short everything is a lot easier now then they used to be.
I've been occasionally going back to my Paladin weapon to slowly work my way through its upgrades. I've literally been working on the Curtana+Holy Shield for a decade without finishing it.
Now I started doing the Thyrus a couple of days ago, and I'm currently stuck on collecting the 12 Atma because Maiden just refuses to drop.
Good news: Maiden dropped
Bad news: Bull is giving me sass now
Heyyy can u tell me wich chest you wear qwq
On release, it took me six months to get my first atma.
I'm working on my first one right now. Still on the twelve atma step and I have....one for my WAR weapon after three days. My partner did it when it was still relevant, so I I feel bad griping about it, but this is going to be hell. 😅
omg this happen to me when I'm spamming to leveling my blumage 2 years ago 😂😂
The moment I saw NIN was selected I though. “Hey at least he has that increased movement speed!” 😂
it took me 1 year to do all the ARR relics and about 25-50million Gil and 1 ARR relic requires about 1.4million gil in total to complete each Arr Relic requires close to that much gil to do
I have done Zodiac weapons (when able to no-life them) in about 3 days each on average entirely solo. I genuinely recommend using Bozja for grinding poetics and just AFK for FATEs to spawn at specific locations rather than seever hopping so you retain your sanity.
OMG watching this remind me of how hard it was and I quit relic quest at the nexus part. :(
Its pretty fun if you got s couple friends to do books with and chill while doing it
I'm currently on the atma stage of gae bolg and it's a bit of a grind and a pain as well
As a Ninja main this was fantastic to watch 🤣