King KORG Neo - No funny business!
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2024
- Korg just announced the new King KORG NEO. This is something as unusual as a "normal" synth. No weird gimmicks, nothing impossible to understand and no funny business. Just a straight up decent synthesizer!
Let's take a look at it, have a listen to some patches together and... Yeah - explore the thing.
It's based on the 11 year old KingKORG but evolved and brought into 2024, feeling like a newborn baby with an old soul. It reminds me of the MicrKORG a bit too now when I think about it. The presets are new, some features has been taken out, others has been brought in.
This might not be a synth for the dedicated synth-nerd but for more of an average Joe-kinda user.
It's pretty expensive for what it is though... That has to be said again.
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Ok. Thank you guys for the comments!
I stand by everything I said in this video but now (the day after posting) it’s clear to me that I’ve put myself in a place where I’m just trying a bit too hard to be nuanced, balanced and nice.
Everything I said in the video is right but I think I should’ve made it more clear that: it’s too expensive for what it is. I’m not very excited about this synth because there’s just not a lot to be excited about. It’s not bad. But it’s just not exciting. Everything doesn’t need to be exciting in the first place. It’s a virtual analog synth from Korg - that’s it.
I’ll rethink my video making process and go back to my unscripted, looser format. Still nuanced and reasonable but letting my personal opinions on things shine through more.
I once had a king korg(black) and I was able to summon up some great patches over and over. I sold it to afford the Waldorf iridium keyboard. I admit I do miss the simple immediacy of the king Korg. I certainly couldn’t program deep esoteric evolving soundscapes but to be honest, How many songs actually take full advantage of that kind of deep programming. Tge most important aspect of a synth is the QUALITY of its basic components. The oscillators and filters do sound pretty damn good. I have entertained buying another king Korg and if they included the analog tube on the Neo, I’d buy it.
Looks so fun and clean! Glad you got 100k congrats, thanks for inspiring me for almost 2 years now!
Solid piece of gear! Thanks for the chill vibes, Accurate!
Wish they would remake a DW8000 or Poly 800 in this format.
Not feeling this one. And then u saw the price 1000bucks??? Yikes
Thought it'd be 399 or something
Hmm... it's a re package of a decade old synth £949 its a bit steep for a 37 key synth..
i was expecting around the £600 - £700 mark like the roland gaia 2 .. gonna be a hard sell i thnk.
Especially if it follows the rest of the Korg line with 5ms midi latency 👀
The new MicroKORG is likely to be 700.
Right? I guess everything get more expensive as I said but this one would’ve made more sense at a lower price point for sure.
@@AccurateBeats Especially because the manufacturer prices at the china are below pre-covid as the war at the Ukraine has seized the consumption. Only reason we're asked to pay the prices we do is because the middleman is greedy. Just say no.
Vastly underrated synth, has sounded amazing since 2013. 🤘
Great to see you on this review! I have the OG King Korg and I wouldn't mind grabbing this one as well... if just for aesthetics alone, but I love the sounds from it!
Cool! I haven’t tried the OG but as far as I’ve heard, it seems cool.
Yeah, an all white synth like this is definitely something extra.
I agree, I have the original too, but could make room for this!
I think your comments were RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
It's a great little synth. I owned the original one, and yes there are somethings they should have improved upon.
An improved arpeggiator, with a couple of user slots, and the big one, reverb & delay at THE SAME TIME!!
Maybe they'll be a firmware update coming, but I'm still getting one.
Not regular videos but sponsored one like always on time! Thank you dear lord
I love your reviews and enjoyed this one so much. Its awesome to see you in good health. You look great I pray for all of Gods Blessings to you and your family
Thanks man! I appreciate that
That ending sounded to me like kraftwerk's autobahn impression :D Ha det gött to you too my friend, it's a pleasure learning swedish around here :)
BTW, you CAN go straight to each OSC volume level, by holding the 'shift' key whilst turning the 'tune' knob, after selecting which osc you want to change.
Yeah, I put that in text on the video a mixer would still be cool though 🤣
My favorite thing to do is to scroll through a massive list on a 1 inch screen.
Nice review,, thank you
Good honest review matey, cheers. I have an original King Korg already. One thing I don't get with Korg lately is they rework the controls into a nice compact design.. and then fail to release a desktop module version that can also fit in 19" rack. Just seems mad
That’s a great point. Having this series of synths in rack format would be really cool!
And this was a que for Korg. Hacksaw. Done.
Perfect synth for someone that wants those analog or digital synth timbres to add to their music without the hassle of 'knob per function' analog or 'menu driven parameter' programming digital synths.
Yeah, something like that!
I think it’s a great first step into synths in general. Feels like a work horse
Or buy a used original for less than half the price.
@@fatbobe1986 That works for Korg Volcas, but KingKorgs? Only seen 3 between eBay & Reverb, and no they are not half the price...if they are in great condition.
@@aseomg I sold one for £350. It didn't sell first time round as well. Keep your eyes open for a deal.
It reminds me of a Micro Korg (ish) keyboard. I’m aware Korg also released a MicroKorg 2, which makes me question this keyboard… And yes these prices are crazy. $1k to me is like Workstation or full fledged synths prices . All the music gear manufacturers have raised prices considerably on their gear… It’s a weird time with music tech, because do I really need another synth for a bass lead or pad ? What does this device do that others can’t ? At the end of the day the goal is supposed to be to make music. 🤔
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Hi Thanks for this useful video. I the same period of time, Roland launched Gaia2 which seemed to me comparing with this Korg. Have you an opinion on these two synths ?
Seems like a great "first synth", I feel like the minilogue or microkorg used to be the ideal starter synth, but you have more sound source options with this one.
This would be a great way to teach an interested person about some synthesizer basics with a decent keyboard and sound.
Yeah, I think you’re 100% right.
A great place to start learning the basics
I'm attracted to this on the basis it's a good simple synth.
If I had anything similar then I'd not give it a second thought.
The aesthetic is what would attract me to this instead of other simple synths... microfreak for instance.
Would still have other more innovative synths along in that buy list to go along with this.
At $550 it would make sense, but at $1000 it’s kind of a ‘why’? I guess if you’re buying your first synth and everything in your studio is white you’d pay $1000 for it?
I would wait fo the KingKorg NEO SE
LOL and pay £1500+
There’s also a MicroKorg2 but no videos on that lol
I know!
If that one makes the microkorg to another level… I’m 100% there!
$1,000 for the King KORG Neo? A good place to start, eh? Arturia's Minifreak is half the price & includes an analogue filter & AT. Watch the R.R.P. plummet short term.
Yeah. The price point is a bit unfortunate!
I suspect the split keyboard is there ready for the SE version.
More likely legacy from the original KK that did have 5 octaves.
The bar, for me, was set by the Radias in 2006. Within my live rig, it's used for leads, arps & primarily vocoder. Korg has yet to release any vocoder keyboard that has taken the Radias to the next level, and I've tried them ALL! I like the form factor of the Neo, but the sounds that I've heard from it so far, including the vocoder are unimpressive. If it was priced like the wavestate, I would take a chance with one, but charging $300 more is a deal breaker.
I like the products from Korg but the price is not right for me. If I want one of the new synthesizers. I'll probably have to wait for a second-hand offer.
I think this is the first video of yours I’ve watched, and even though I’m not familiar with your YT personality/style, I felt the obvious lack of real enthusiasm you have for this synth within minutes.
It’s too bad - this synth looks fantastic, but honestly it doesn’t seem to sound all that great (from watching a few vids), and the price is a real problem. I mean, Modal Cobalt/Argon 8, anyone (also not perfect - I returned my Cobalt for various reasons, but it was way better than this appears to be IMO, and less expensive to boot)? Minifreak? A half dozen others I’m not thinking of that are actually compelling?
Thank you so much!
You are 100% right. I am not excited about this one because there’s not much to be excited about. It’s a decent synth that servers a purpose, sure. But it’s not exciting. The price is a problem but also… It’s a virtual analog synth with a bunch of oscillators - that’s pretty much it.
I didn’t think of this when I made the video but yeah… I should’ve put more of my opinions in here; I’m beeing too nuanced here. That’ll change in the future.
Thanks for helping out!
Yamaha SeqTrack for the win lol
no
LOL!
Yamaha… meh!
the Korg No@@Heathcliff_hensel
i did like your demo beat though @@AccurateBeats
Personally, I'd have been happier if they released a VST plugin version of King Korg. The design looks good though, even if it looks like editing will be a pain in the arse.
This would be great if it didn't have the same shitty keybed as the others and a $1000 price tag.
It looks very star wars like. While i like it in pictures and video i cant imagine wanting a white shiny synth when i am jaming at night. after all i waitet all day for it to get dark outside.
But it looks really nice. Will be a horror to clean after a year i predict.
Which reminds me of what lengths i had to go to dim all the Sunlight Level Leds on my Minilogue XD. I tried 3-4 different adhesive Led dim foil until i got them to a level where i dont need to go blind when standing over the synth.
Is this one also so bright if you turn off your main home lights?
Then you need to age it 😂.
@@artisans8521 but does it age like good wine ?
Hi. Is it possible to create 1 stereo timbre paned hard L & R then stack the 2nd timbre in mono within 1 program / patch ect ?
I am thinking for creating stereo bass ? Psytrance. As this seems could be good for stereo bass with all the different oscillators . ?
Or possibly assign stereo width to a chorus fx on 1 timbre, keeping the 2nd timbre mono / dry... ?
The synth trends today are all about power and Korg underdelivers with a high price tag most of the time. Still making stuff like it's 2010. Modwave was powerful, not cheap but disgusting to play
Disgusting?
@@cougarman8 terrible keybed
Finally figured out what you've been saying at the end of your videos. I know this has nothing to do with the synth. Guess it helps the algorithms 🤷🏼♂
Haha! I guess it does help the algorithm 😃
Ha det gött!!
Good review. It’s a tad bit overpriced, but the KingKorg is a really decent VA synth.
This looks great but the MiniFreak is a steal
Cant take anything away from the MiniFreak!
I wouldn’t even roll blunts on this thing
Anything can get rolled on fam lol
Lol
Pothead comment.
😂
Lmao
I’m not feeling it? Before you said the price I was imagining it selling for about half that, and wasn’t feeling it!
Maybe it’s just not for me.. I’m thinking “I could get a second hand Hydra Synth for that?” Menus dive-e + the feeling that you really can’t get all that sound design-e with it.
I’m not sure I should care about the effects in that I’m sure I have much better in the computer? And all the sorta knob space they dedicate to them?
I suppose it’s like you’re creating the sound on the synth.. and all the little details add up to something unique, and that’s how you think about it.. but.
I don’t know, if you’re going to spend $1k on a synth, what are you buying it for? For $1k.. I want something to get excited about. I mean there’s so many synths $1000 or less.. that are way exciting for me.
It sorta feels like “if you want to use presets, maybe this is for you.”
I also have a hard time to be really excited about this one. It’s too expensive for what it is even though it’s a useful synth.
It serves a purpose but yeah… exciting? -Nope
Too many synths on the market...
Haha! YEAH!
and nothing new
@@marcutrillogibert9154 I think the new microkorg is worth looking at. There's a looper on there that overdubs and it takes batteries.
Yeah… that pretty much sums it up.
The KingKorg Neo is an almost identical copy of the KingKorg (just compare the Parameters Guides), more expensive with two important "minuses": the overall Tube effect (a rare specificity of the KingKorg which had the advantage to add warmth to the sound) no longer exists in the NEO and of course this very small keyboard.
In summary: KingKorg NEO, pay more to get a little less
They need to stop playing and drop the flagship replacement for Kronos/Nautilus
That and a follow up on the electribe series. Like… A proper groovebox sampler. My oh my
@@AccurateBeats exactly
If inaccurate beats gets a piece of gear,you know it sucks 😂
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They should put the valve on it.
I thought this would be like half the price of the Minilogue XD and its a grand(!)...Lots of expensive repackaging from Korg. They need to (re)hire some people.
I see what you’re saying. Personally, I’m really excited about the refresh of microkorg though, that has potential to be a bit mote special than this king Korg.
I still want them to follow up of the electrons though 😀
A second hand, KingKorg, with a good keyboard, costs less,
Nice for a first synth for my kid. What's the price?
Ask your son or a work colleague. They most likely know how to get this kind of information using Google searches. 😊
@michaelmos7497 yeah I'm looking for this Information in here in main topic. Try to be more useful next time ;)
Above 1000 (euros or dollars). It's way too expensive as a kid's toy. Also synths are pretty boring when used alone.
I find vintage recreations boring, no matter who makes them. IF you want to do what Roland does and make very inexpensive high quality synths from vintage in digital form, that works for me. $300 to $400 for a Boutique with all surface controls is the best deal in digital synths of all time. The down side to vintage is millions of people have attempted to find sound designs and just about everything has been heard over the last 40 years. Korg should stay with Volca's for entry level and Modwave Wavestate and OpSix type synths that have modern energies to create all new sounds for today. This Korg NEO seems to be a loser.
But Korg just introduced the Modwave, Opsic and Wavestate in module form or 19inch rack mount, THIS is exciting!!! Too bad the price is just $50 buck lower than the keyboard????
ooof
Is it hybrid or digital
It’s digital. With analog modeling.
@@AccurateBeats idk what that means lol
@Ra_Sharpness_ Oh, sorry!
It’s a digital synth with a technology inside that mimics how an analog circuit sounds and behaves. It’s of course not a perfect 1 to 1 representation of what an analog synth would do. It’s the thing a lot of synth manufacturers did when everybody started loving analog synths again.
Still digital though.
@AccurateBeats thanks for explaining that dude. I have a microfreak so i wasn't sure how similar they were when it comes to type. Again thanks for the info
and again, no aftertouch - dont get it. i guess Korg is in a rush for make money with senseless 2nd editions on higher price range. Korg lost me.
I suspect you like it less than you said ;-)
lol! I’m trying my best to be nuanced here!
Honestly… This is not a synth to get excited about, this is a synth to get some usage out of. It’s not very special… But good. I can’t take that away from it😃
Ok so, maybe its me, but you really look like your not feeling this keyboard. Its ok to say its "meh" right? 😅
I don’t know…. It is a good product. But expensive. It’s just not very exciting. It’s useful and practical for sure but… The excitement level isn’t there.
The vocoder is great though!
@@AccurateBeats I understand, just wasn't sure if you wanted to even do the review. I have seen what you are like when you really like a product and when you don't so this was unusual for me to see. Don't worry I still enjoy your videos!!
I never do anything I don’t want to do but I know exactly what you’re talking about.
parle beaucoup
Not worth £1k for a two part synth. Better off buying a decent M1/M2 Mac Mini for that price way more value for money. Just not value for money. Synths are getting worse. Sad really because I love Korg but none of the stuff they brought out is of interest or more importantly value for money.
Its not worth more than max 350 $
Rubbish.
🗑️ imo
I own an OB-6, I own a Waldorf Iridium keyboard, and a Roland system 8.
I’ve owned Moog subsequent, sequential prophet rev2, and many many others, I also owned A KING KORG OG. I have considered buying another but passed to consider other options….now NEO shows up.
the king Korg was a hugely misunderstood instrument capable of seriously good tone! The prologue too. I think the difference between digital and analogue is an argument for people who are in some kind of audio cult! Gems like the system 8 and king Korg have proved that some folhh my a are addicted to a NAME……analog.
All synths, ALL OF THEM are electronic chip based! It’s as if analog synths are made out of vacuume tubes of some-such! No!!!! They are ALL circuit boards and integrated circuits with processor Chips from Motorola etc.
analog modeling has reached a point where it just doesn’t matter anymore….reminds me of women paying huge money to own a Coach Bag! There’s not a goddamn dimes difference between the quality of most purses…..it’s that NAME and the pride of PRICE! how about this novel idea, BUY A OURSE THAT GETS THE JOB DONE! with the money you save BUY TWO!!!!
I can buy two digital modeling for the price of just one Oberheim or Moog premium and in the long run, still end up with music worth listening to!!!
I hear people say, put on these headphones, you’ll hear there’s a difference! Ok, maybe, now add drums, vocals, and an engineer and what do you get? Same damn song reaction no matter if it’s a Moog voyager of a king Korg neo!
Real analog is just another coach bag!
1099€... Korg is out of reality! they took the KingKorg, less keys, less material, cheap plastic, take away the "Tube" and push up the price..
In 6 months we will see the real price of this TOY.. (around 500/600€ as the MK1 of Wavestate or Modwave)
maybe one day.. for its REAL right price.. (500€, 600 max..).. the same price of a new wavestate or OPSIX MK1...
but SURE i'll NEVER for this PRICE..korg is going out of MIND with this and the SILLY WS and OP6 SE..
a boring and overpriced synth, no one would want it