You can apply a pre emergent like Tenacity (Mesotrione) right before putting down seeds. It won’t effect germination at all as long as you apply it correctly. I’ve done it atleast 3 times with fescue in particular and never had an issue. Tenacity will also kill most grassy type weeds that are already existing.
you are doing the seeding early enough that you can do some weed control this fall. Get 2 or 3 mowings in on the new seedlings, then on a 60+ degree day, spot spray them.
My tall fescue overseed is taking a long to germinate. I'm worried that using starter fert and Milo is causing the grass to grow fast and blocking the new seed from the sun. Any thoughts?
Great question! Best and safest bet is to wait until right before next spring before putting down a pre-emergent in newly seeded lawns, if you seeded in the fall. That should allow for enough time for the seeds to really germinate and establish themselves!
throw you some iron in your Bermuda helps your scalp spots bounce back. the wife and I takes a few weeks vacation a year I'll come back and my lawn will be 4" or more. lawns looking good tho man you will be pleased next season.
Pardon me. I would have mixed some Milo with some more TF seed and spread that. Scotts starter with tenacity will take care of those weeds. If anyone thinks that broadcast tenacity won't blast weeds needs to try it out. It will certainly ghost the weeds and you can hit each spot with some weed killer a little later to finish them off. It certainly draws attention to them.
Question. Last summer I killed off some wide-bladed fescue and planted a rye/bluegrass mix. Unfortunately my lawn is more of a fescue mix (you live and learn). Now I got these large circles of bluegrass that sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the lawn. Is there any way to make my lawn look more uniform or,do I need to kill off with the glyphosate the areas I planted last year. Asking for some much needed help lol :)
Outside of doing an overseeding of the rye/bluegrass in the fescue areas and fescue in the bluegrass to try and even it out, your best bet will be to use glyphosate to treat the bluegrass patches and replant fescue a week later once the grass has died and the glyphosate has had time to break down.
The easy and most honest answer, I had some starter fert. left over from my spring app! The more in depth scientific answer, you can add many synthetic nutrients to organic fertilizer to make it more complete, due to the fact that most organic fertilizers lack the desired amount of various macro- or micronutrients to obtain success. So, by adding in the starter fert, with the organic, we are not putting too many synthesized and too little organic nutrients into the soil for successful growth.
The synthetic fertilizer usually has some portion of fast release which will help give you a boost the first two weeks while the organic could take a few weeks to get going since it requires decomposition via microbes and the like.
Big no no brother mixing two different fertilizers in your spreader at the same time. Do it individually. Different size in grains going thru your spreader may not give you a even spread of each fertilizer by combining them together my man. Other factors come to play as well. Besides that. Love your channel, you have a talent in being in front of the camera, I would also but I'm not that great in front of the camera👍🏼
JC! I was wondering when you would jump in to comment on another video! Follow you on IG and find your content very informative, so thank you! Honestly, I was worried about doing this. As you mentioned, I was worried about getting an even spread. It actually spread pretty good. Both the synthetic and organic fert. I used, their prill size was close enough. Couple that with a spreader setting in the middle of both the individual recommended settings of each, pretty happy with the results. What are some of the other factors? Thanks for watching and commenting and the compliment.
CastleberryFilms "Big no no" may have been too strong a choice of words lol sorry it was early in the morning when I saw this video 😊 not a major issue, but depending on the two products you are using, one may be heavier than the other which would cause the heavier product to settle first towards the bottom of your spreader as you walk your lawn. Again, not devastating, but it's always better to do one product at a time 👍🏼 Keep up the great work, love your videos and I as well learn from you! Thanks for the support the feeling is mutual 🙌🏼
Haha no worries friend! You make a very good and valid point that everyone should know! That is the beauty of this platform. We can create conversations like this for all of us to learn and benefit from. Thanks! You keep on keeping on as well!
I've mixed up two different types of fertilizer, for example Milorganite and Espoma, in a wheel barrel to get a homogeneous mixture before adding to the spreader and it seemed to work out ok. You are right that the best way is separate, no argument there, but sometimes for a 5,000 sqft lawn I'll get one back of each that covers that total and mix them up.
In this case, yes, dolomitic lime was added to the soil about a month before seeding. This is common practice in Georgia because of our thick clay soil. You may not need to do this in your lawn, though, so check your pH before you plan to seed to find out what your lawn needs.
Tenacity can be used as a pre-emergent for some weeds and as a post-emergent for some of the same ones and some additional weeds. We recommend calling us at 866-581-7378 to discuss in more detail your specific situation and the weeds you are targeting.
Just have to put this in here: Your sunglasses -- the reflective lenses are particularly attractive. Is that a brand name you feel like sharing? I'm mesmerized by them (yes, overeasily entertained...)
Many customers put down their fertilizer at the same time as seeding, or anywhere the first few weeks as the seedlings start to emerge. There is no set time it has to be put down unless the label of the product you are using dictates otherwise. Please let us know if you have any other questions and we would be happy to help!
Good eye! Although Paul made a lot of videos early on in this series, he did not make a video every time he mowed. But you are correct in that you should alternate your cutting patterns each time you mow to keep your grass growing up and not out. With Tall Fescue this will not be as much as a concern as it is with creeping turfgrasses like St. Augustine, bluegrass, and Bermuda.
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You can apply a pre emergent like Tenacity (Mesotrione) right before putting down seeds. It won’t effect germination at all as long as you apply it correctly. I’ve done it atleast 3 times with fescue in particular and never had an issue. Tenacity will also kill most grassy type weeds that are already existing.
Tenacity can be used as pre emergent, post emergent and will not stop seed from germinating
Going on vacation? No problem! PGR has you covered :D Get some Primo (if you can afford it) or some T-Nex, and you'll be all good.
you are doing the seeding early enough that you can do some weed control this fall. Get 2 or 3 mowings in on the new seedlings, then on a 60+ degree day, spot spray them.
Thanks for watching, commenting and the tip! This just might happen here soon!
My tall fescue overseed is taking a long to germinate. I'm worried that using starter fert and Milo is causing the grass to grow fast and blocking the new seed from the sun. Any thoughts?
Jumping ahead....after doing a fall restoration project, when will you be able to lay down pre-emergent on the newly seeded lawns?
Great question! Best and safest bet is to wait until right before next spring before putting down a pre-emergent in newly seeded lawns, if you seeded in the fall. That should allow for enough time for the seeds to really germinate and establish themselves!
throw you some iron in your Bermuda helps your scalp spots bounce back. the wife and I takes a few weeks vacation a year I'll come back and my lawn will be 4" or more. lawns looking good tho man you will be pleased next season.
Thanks for the tip James!
Great tip! Made my heart ache to see it brown like...sigh...hoping I will be pleased next season.
Pardon me. I would have mixed some Milo with some more TF seed and spread that. Scotts starter with tenacity will take care of those weeds. If anyone thinks that broadcast tenacity won't blast weeds needs to try it out. It will certainly ghost the weeds and you can hit each spot with some weed killer a little later to finish them off. It certainly draws attention to them.
Thanks David! Appreciate the tip. The masses for sure have spoken and we might plan on making a video addressing this issue!
Nice hat man, did you go on safari? haha sorry, I dig it. Nice video as always! Love watching
Ha, thanks! No safari. Snuck away to Florida for a nice family beach vacation. Thanks for watching. Just subscribed to your channel!
CastleberryFilms Nice! Always good to get away with the family. Thanks mate, Appreciate it!
Question. Last summer I killed off some wide-bladed fescue and planted a rye/bluegrass mix. Unfortunately my lawn is more of a fescue mix (you live and learn). Now I got these large circles of bluegrass that sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the lawn. Is there any way to make my lawn look more uniform or,do I need to kill off with the glyphosate the areas I planted last year. Asking for some much needed help lol :)
Outside of doing an overseeding of the rye/bluegrass in the fescue areas and fescue in the bluegrass to try and even it out, your best bet will be to use glyphosate to treat the bluegrass patches and replant fescue a week later once the grass has died and the glyphosate has had time to break down.
DoMyOwn thanks I'll consider it over the next few weeks, neighbors will think I'm crazy for doing it again, but I feel as though I have no choice. :/
You are most welcome! Best of luck. Please let us know if you have any more questions.
What's the advantage of mixing the starter and organic fert together in the spreader? Is it just to save time or is there another reason?
The easy and most honest answer, I had some starter fert. left over from my spring app! The more in depth scientific answer, you can add many synthetic nutrients to organic fertilizer to make it more complete, due to the fact that most organic fertilizers lack the desired amount of various macro- or micronutrients to obtain success. So, by adding in the starter fert, with the organic, we are not putting too many synthesized and too little organic nutrients into the soil for successful growth.
The synthetic fertilizer usually has some portion of fast release which will help give you a boost the first two weeks while the organic could take a few weeks to get going since it requires decomposition via microbes and the like.
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Big no no brother mixing two different fertilizers in your spreader at the same time. Do it individually. Different size in grains going thru your spreader may not give you a even spread of each fertilizer by combining them together my man. Other factors come to play as well. Besides that. Love your channel, you have a talent in being in front of the camera, I would also but I'm not that great in front of the camera👍🏼
JC! I was wondering when you would jump in to comment on another video! Follow you on IG and find your content very informative, so thank you! Honestly, I was worried about doing this. As you mentioned, I was worried about getting an even spread. It actually spread pretty good. Both the synthetic and organic fert. I used, their prill size was close enough. Couple that with a spreader setting in the middle of both the individual recommended settings of each, pretty happy with the results. What are some of the other factors? Thanks for watching and commenting and the compliment.
CastleberryFilms "Big no no" may have been too strong a choice of words lol sorry it was early in the morning when I saw this video 😊 not a major issue, but depending on the two products you are using, one may be heavier than the other which would cause the heavier product to settle first towards the bottom of your spreader as you walk your lawn. Again, not devastating, but it's always better to do one product at a time 👍🏼 Keep up the great work, love your videos and I as well learn from you! Thanks for the support the feeling is mutual 🙌🏼
Haha no worries friend! You make a very good and valid point that everyone should know! That is the beauty of this platform. We can create conversations like this for all of us to learn and benefit from. Thanks! You keep on keeping on as well!
I've mixed up two different types of fertilizer, for example Milorganite and Espoma, in a wheel barrel to get a homogeneous mixture before adding to the spreader and it seemed to work out ok. You are right that the best way is separate, no argument there, but sometimes for a 5,000 sqft lawn I'll get one back of each that covers that total and mix them up.
Did you add more lime into the soil before dropping the new seed?
In this case, yes, dolomitic lime was added to the soil about a month before seeding. This is common practice in Georgia because of our thick clay soil. You may not need to do this in your lawn, though, so check your pH before you plan to seed to find out what your lawn needs.
When did you start that project in the spring or early fall .? Month?
This project was started on August 31, 2017, shortly before fall.
I was battling the same thing last fall . Could’ve I use Tenacity to help battle the weeds ?
Tenacity can be used as a pre-emergent for some weeds and as a post-emergent for some of the same ones and some additional weeds. We recommend calling us at 866-581-7378 to discuss in more detail your specific situation and the weeds you are targeting.
Just have to put this in here: Your sunglasses -- the reflective lenses are particularly attractive.
Is that a brand name you feel like sharing? I'm mesmerized by them (yes, overeasily entertained...)
You need to prune that pear again.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Might be a future video here soon! ;-)
why not hit it with tenacity?
How long did you wait to lay slow release fertilizer after laying new seeds?
Many customers put down their fertilizer at the same time as seeding, or anywhere the first few weeks as the seedlings start to emerge. There is no set time it has to be put down unless the label of the product you are using dictates otherwise.
Please let us know if you have any other questions and we would be happy to help!
Get flag it off then u know you will not miss any areas
Any reason why you are not changing your cutting pattern?
Good eye! Although Paul made a lot of videos early on in this series, he did not make a video every time he mowed. But you are correct in that you should alternate your cutting patterns each time you mow to keep your grass growing up and not out. With Tall Fescue this will not be as much as a concern as it is with creeping turfgrasses like St. Augustine, bluegrass, and Bermuda.
Step one, put that nitrogen back into your lawn. Mulch
30 seconds in. I realize this is pretty much a copy of The Lawn Care Nut. I’m going to stick to watching him!