I remember when EQ2 came out, if you set all the graphics to Maximum it would tell you no PC that currently existed could run it properly at that level. Real galaxy brain decision by the devs.
That kind of general accessibility is one of the reasons why mobile games are so popular and console games apparently still too - no matter what some few spiteful, naysaying, Reddit basement dwelling PC gamer masterrace gigachads are repeatedly spewing in their toxic echo chambers.
Negative of the high req: A lot of people won't be able to play it on their current machine. Positive about the high req: It future proofs the graphics. When it is now top end graphics, in a few years it may still look reasonably good. (you know what I mean?) The game seems to go for a realistic art design, which needs good graphics to look good. It's not very stylized/ cartoonified, which is a choice I respect. ------- Besides that not just the recommended req is high, but the minimum is pretty darn high, too. So I really don't know how this game is supposed be able to run on a current gen console, lol.
@@glitchygrub I don't think so, it's going to be cross platform so the player counts should be higher. This might mean more worlds or instances as I don't think there will be nearly as many players on a single server like Archeage 1, but if PC's are at least making the minimum spec, should be about on-par with consoles.
If you've played any new console/PC game, you know you need a RTX 4060 to match the console's performance. It's truly disgusting how badly so many PC ports have been optimized. The PC hardware is good, but it's wasted on bad optimization.
i fucking loved archeage, but i won't be "got" again by them. best MMO i've ever played, but the HORRIFIC p2w, the bait and switch with unchained being no sub, no p2w, then going back on both of these, and the way they treated the game and community over the years, i'm not going to be putting myself through it again. not a chance, there is absolutely zero chance this game does not end up horrendously pay to win.
The is the reason why my hype level stays low. ArcheAge is the best PvP / open world MMO I have played, but it is painful how the p2w ruined it. That said, if the PVE and safe zones are developed enough, I could see myself being tempted in a more chill approach. P2w isn't as much of a problem in these environments. Play at your own pace kind of things
"Very high system requirements" ... Let me guess: Unreal Engine 5, with a heavy utilization of Nanite and Lumen? Just so the devs find out in their betas that most PCs cant run it smoothly and have to drop the quality of both down to hell, making the game not just run, but also look worse than it would have with handmade lightning and LODs?
Let me guess, Still playing Nintendo 64 graphics WoW. With a Nvidia 1060. If devs didn't try to push graphics every game would look like glitchy 💩 WoW. That said. U.E 5 does need more optimization for high fps.
I don't think there is a single Korean MMO I've played that i didn't drop after a week. Most are P2W and grindy as all hell with lackluster storytelling.
The only good korean MMO is black desert, it's just sad the developers have so much less resources than bigger game studios to create content for the game :(
You are saying that because you are not into pvp and want to pve alone... Otherwise you would have understood what lineage 2 did better than any other tittle. But yeah zoomers with limited attention spam want carebear pve nowadays...
This feels like a sadly common but awful take. Don't get it wrong, I'm not blaming you for being suspicious, but Kira was reasonable and cautious, and sadly we live in an internet where not expressing some opinions will make some people think you're a shill or whatever else bad person, depending on the opinion you're supposed to have.
One is my fondest and oddly funniest memories from my time in ArcheAge was building my first boat, putting the Kuroneko Character from a degenerate anime on my sail and doing dodgey solo tradepack suns across the ocean. The craziest thing that ever happened was when a pirate vessel with Pedobear on her mainsail gave chase. I luckily evaded them, but of course screencapped for posterity.
if they somehow at least manage to have 5 different endgame gameplay loops, then it will be excelent. Not just the heavily guided zerge down enemies for specific drops gameplay loop. that is pretty much the same for each day.
*Their first game centred on hyper monitization, greed and scumbaggery..... But we have a "trust me bro" from the studio, for it's sequel..... No thanks!!* *It'll be just as scummy no doubt.* 😂😂
Too bad I won't be able to play it on my older gaming laptop. I'm priced out of big games these days, not because games cost too much, but the tech does. Guess I'll stick to 10-15 year old games as usual.
I'll be cautiously watching. I dabbled lightly in ArcheAge from the earliest closed beta tests where you needed to hang around Reddit to snag keys etc to get in for the weekends. I then was wary of the open world PVP as an ex EVE player. But figured as a F2P game I was in no rush to dive deeper into it. Then of course Trion went belly up and I intially welcomed the Gamigo news as I didn't know their story yet. I bought the middle preorder Unchained bundle i think I eagerly awaited what would come. That clearly soured fast. Now adays I daily Star Trek Online and have an active sub to FF XIV and dabbled lightly into GW2. I'm not sure Firran will be able to fit in alongside Caitians, Hrothgar and Charr again. But I truly hope it won't go as badly as AA 1 ended up, if only as at least one person I am close to was hugely into AA and I would love to see them truly happy with AA 2.
co-op or multiplayer can be really fun. One of my favorite games of all time is Guild Wars 1 and that's not really an MMO. The cities and towns were hubs and you would gather a party of people and/or NPCs and explore zones as a group of 4, 6 or 8 depending on how far you had progressed the story. Guild Wars 1 is still one of my all time favorite games but they really nailed the combat and I primarily pvped. Enemy NPCs had the abilities of players. It was incredibly tactical and responsive. The classes were an interesting and fresh twist on the holy trinity. Guild Wars 1 is my nostalgia essentially and I tend to compare everything I've played since to it - League of Legends, New World, etc... If Archeage can pull something similar off then it could be a success for them and I might actually consider getting a Playstation subscription and maybe even a Playstation console. I haven't to this point because I don't do single player RPGs. I play games to play with others.
Nothing is next generation about this game unless 5000 players can be on screen at the same time in a massive PvE/PvP/PvEvP battle. These games always have tons of instanced content and low actual player count due to network/engine limitations. And scripting in most MMO's are just as bad as they were 20 years ago.
Next generation just means it can run on consoles at 30% the quality of a high end pc, it's just pointless console talk that's been left in the dust for the past 30 years.
It's not just network/engine limitations. There are also severe gameplay implications. In my experience the more people the more chaotic and braindead things become. You just can't do a whole lot of good, meaningful gameplay with too many people, especially not in PvE - unless you enjoy tons of kill stealing, resource competition or world boss battles where there are so many effects on screen that you might get an epileptic seizure (if your rig can even handle all that and won't drop into single digit FPS). I assume that's also why a majority of coop games have settled with 4-5 players max. In game design more doesn't necessarily mean better. I'm always a little surprised how some people seem to struggle to understand that and tend to wet their pants in sheer excitement over "thousand this" and "bazillion that". This sort of naivety is one of the reasons why genuine scammers or studios like HelloGames get away with how they misrepresent their games. It's not a crime to be excited for things, but this attitude and in part also uneducation about simple game design necessities is setting these people up to get disappointed. No wonder some can't enjoy MMOs anymore with these unrealistic expectations.
@@Lenariet When you've got a lot of people fighting at once, the only real choice to be useful will be whoever had the best AoE, because single target effects will simply not be worth it.
@Kira i just read this on the Steam Page Announcement: This upcoming online action RPG will deliver unparalleled immersive gameplay, with a strong emphasis on intense, visceral combat. In lieu of a direct sequel, we've prepared a fresh take on the ArcheAge universe by shifting away from large-scale competitive battles to smaller group activities and interactive adventures. Our aim is for ArcheAge Chronicles to be approachable and enjoyable for both veteran players as well as those who are just joining our world.
I think this is the first time I've ever heard Kira put something in a positive light. :^) -- I played AA1 shortly after launch for awhile, he's not wrong. Game was fantastic, until it wasn't. So this is cautiously exciting. **VERY** cautiously.
This is the most hopeful I’ve seen Kira in a long time, almost like he’s advertising for the game lol. What happened today Kira, you just have an overly exciting day today?
Dude I remember when archage first came out my brother and i were going out on the sea stealing trade packs and causing chaos, it was truly an epic mmo back then, hope archage 2 will stand out too
Unless there are compelling quests and a way to completely opt out from PvP, I can't see myself playing it. To me, the most important part of any MMO is that the world has to be a nice place to be and spend time in. If I have to worry about getting ganked while in the open world it is not a place I like to spend time in. Good quest design is also important as it gives life to the world aside from just player to player interaction and also gives you stuff to do even if there's not many people playing at the time. Also having NPC characters to get attached to is important to me, as even though I enjoy beef between guilds and stuff, I don't get as attached to that stuff as I do to well written characters and having some sort of attachment to the game is important for me to keep playing it. Game looks pretty and combat looks fun, but kinda worried about stuff to do outside of combat and monetisation
In b4 it's ruined by p2w. what you can't spend 100s a week on RNG gear upgrades and rng loot boxes. looks like you'll be content for those who do. or perpetually behind the curve.
“...It completely lost what it was meant to be by trying to become something it was not. And no one wanted what it became.” This is pure poetry, my friend! This is the #1 killer of creative expression (and living authentically).
I have amazing memories and friendships from the old ArcheAge. I remember the game becoming worse and worse, people leaving, guildies houses getting demolished... It was kinda sad. Years later I reinstalled AA, my characters were still there, so I rode/drove/sailed around on my mounts, vehicles and boats, visited old places. Some time later there was the announcement people need to log in to get their characters transferred to the new servers or they get deleted. I didn't log in, I decided to let the past die and keep the good memories. So it is kinda baffling kakao games are trying it again.
I tried Archeage at launch. Bots were everywhere, taking all the land, porting to complete caravan quests instantly, farming / exploiting everything. It was nuts and not what I expected. Nonbots would kill/boss steal, node steal, and act like unbelievable assholes in-game on a level I never knew was possible. I quit and never looked back. The funny thing is that this sort of bullshit became the norm. Kids seemed to think that running 3rd party programs to cheat wasn't cheating, just "how they liked to play the game," and it was fine if they were ruining the game for everyone else, all that matter was their own experience. They were afraid to group with others, refused to cooperate when they did, and had no reservations about lying, cheating, and stealing, and used the report function purely as a means to bully others. New MMORPGs never really recaptured their former glory after that (2013) and most things entertainment-wise turned into shit from 2014 on. That's pretty much humanity's experience as a whole trying to deal with Millennials. And for me, it all started with Archeage.
Archages court system was the best attempt for a judicial system in a game ever to date. Being captured then going to court and having a judge who was a player, then being found guilty or not guilty followed by going to jail and talking with the people there about how you got cought or if you were infamous players just being in awe you finally got caught Is the most unique and amazing experience in gaming bar none.i really hope it returns
It was a cool idea in theory but in practice it was just everyone getting a laugh at the person on trial before hitting guilty. You would never see an innocent verdict unless it was some small amount of time, because that's boring and uninteresting.
I actually liked the first one. Minus the absolutely awful monetization. And time gating crafting mechanics with mobile practices like stamina. I thought the gliding was cool. Building ships and sailing the sea and being a pirate was fun. The pvp unless you were up against a mega whale was not bad. owning your own property and building a guild hall was great. I hope they do all of this but make it better and far less nickle and diming your customers every time you want to do something. The p2w was some of the worst i have ever experienced.
ArcheAge had almost the exact same monetization as EVE Online. Monetization practices weren’t the problem. The problem was the power gap offered by gear was beyond insane and once you have that gear you will never lose it. Nobody cares if the person one shotting them 6 months in on a character they’ve actively played that whole time swiped or no-lifed to get there. They care that they just got one shot on a character they’ve spent hundreds of hours grinding. If AA2 doesn’t address that I could care less how they monetize it. It will be a hard pass from me.
The only thing i disliked about original Archeage was the server merges. I get why they did it....but when you're a land baron with almost 30 buildings down across both continents that took months to get just right and then having to reset it over and over made it very frustrating.
Awesome overview. I hope they've learnt their lesson, my favourite gaming moments are from the original. So I'll hold onto hope after everything they do the right thing
Any MMO with pay2win mechanics is doomed to fail. They can make the best gameplay and systems in the world that won't matter if real life economics can influence the game. Without its own eco system nothing matters long term.
You clearly have no clue about MMO’s and their economics. It’s pretty easy to check some lists of most played/profitable MMO’s and there’s several heavily p2w MMO’s there.
Kira, you're selling us this game pretty well with this video. I put it on my wish list and will follow the news. Lets hope it'll become as good as you hope it will be.
I had to share a house because so many people brought land 😂 I loved crafting and farming I remember the pirates robbed me and my teammates but we had so much fun. Then they fucked up and made it play to win. I’ll wait for the reviews
I really did love Archeage until it went into a tailspin. The pvp and criminal system in the game was pretty damn fun. Even the skirmishes when it came to trade runs where memorable.
Archeage 1 was from day 1 very heavy pay to win, you needed a tranport tractor to transport trade packs, which needed a tree that needed to be struck by lightning to make the engine. The only realistic way to do that was to buy the high likely hood of being struck by lightning from the cash shop loot box. I expect this game to be worse than that, even tho i am exited to see it
What's curious is that the PS5 trailer made it seem like a Monster Hunter-like singleplayer/co-op game, with the whole "Online multiplayer requires PS+". I don't think MMOs require PS+. I'm certain Tera didn't. I know Anthem required PS+ for co-op, but I think the core game worked without it. It might very well be that their plans have changed deeply. I think if it was ArcheAge 2, they would've called it ArcheAge 2. I don't know. I hope it is an MMO, I miss the old ArcheAge days, I had a blast for a few months with the re-release. The game was amazing. If this isn't an MMO, it still looked good, so I'll probably play it.
AA1 was very innovative, but it's also one of the most p2w games I've ever played. In that game it's morally justified for the rich to steal from the homeless(and I'm talking hall monitor type stuff) so you need to join a guild or join pirates if you wanted to make any long term progress without paying for a home as a F2P player. Hopefully things changed since I left.
@@kennethnoisewater4423 I thought that would be what happens but there wasn't really ever that moment. He reaches the end of the video praising it still and talking about how excited he is. Idk it rubs me very strangely. I'm sure Kira wants this game to be good but surely he can't be on enough copium to buy the hype
I never played Archeage but I did spend years on Black Desert Online. Had to quit due to mental health issues that game and the gear upgrading systems have caused me (don't you love it when everything you own downgrades and breaks, costing hours to fix?). If Archeage Chronicles has no downgrade systems then I might check it out. I honestly don't care that much about p2w aspects except for when they cause what you already own to get worse because you didn't pay for safeguards to stop the possibility of downgrade.
nothing downgrades, you just end up stuck not being able to upgrade anymore since the trade runs that make you actual gold get stolen by p2w guys with impossible to obtain gear that will beat you up non stop and all you can do is stop playing, no pvp area will be accessible since they will be camping, the labour sistem will make sure to make the game unplayable since all you can do without labour is.. walk around. The game is great, they screwed it up real good tho.. I suggest you to go for ArcheRage instead, not that p2w at the cost of a few updates behind. Gl
It’s crazy how u said the Competition is nonexistent when 2025 is literally THE YEAR for Action MMO RPG games. We got Chrono Odyssey, Crimson Desert, DokeV (really that’s releasing in 2026 due to them prioritizing Crimson Desert first) we got Dune Awakening, Where Winds Meet, and Hell Is Us The competition is definitely there 😂 My wallet gonna be drained next year😭🤣
The high system requirements in combination with action combat make me think this is not going to be a "real" MMORPG. If I wanted intense action combat and graphics, I would play God of War or something.
oh boy, stay away from this one guys, after what they did to Archeage i'm sure Archeage Chronicles will be even more grindy and pay to win. i have never in my life played a game where crafting was pay to win until Archeage, yes you read that correctly, they figured out a way to monetize crafting and that killed Archeage.
12:08 I'd say its probably a fair bet the cash shop won't make half the players quit overnight. More due to lowered standards for monetization than anything else though.
1:30 doesn't sound like it's the case based on this quote from the Executive Producer "In lieu of a direct sequel, we've prepared a fresh take on the ArcheAge universe by shifting away from large-scale competitive battles to smaller group activities and interactive adventures. Our aim is for ArcheAge Chronicles to be approachable and enjoyable for both veteran players as well as those who are just joining our world."
This sounds too good to be true. As such I'll be ignoring that initial gut reaction and throwing money at this as soon as I can. You know, like a moron would do.
Chronically online take. Just because a youtuber isn't overly opinionated on anything you dislike doesn't mean he's a paid shill. Kira has bashed Kakao before and made clear to remind us of the bad, but he knows he can't see the future so he's being cautious.
@@ekki1993 Chronically boring take. Just because someone makes a joke about a person fanboying over a game does not mean we have not all done it once before or that you need to be a guardian for him. Also, Who said i didn't like it? sounds like your just looking for a chance to defend your crush. Easy there sport no one is gonna harm your factious lover.
@@everlonggaming1966 Wdym fanboying? The overall message of the video was negative. You do seem to have a tendency to make up stories so I don't blame you.
@@ekki1993 aww do they not have reading comprehension where your from? your comment was an attempt to defend someone who was excited about a game without knowing anything about it. He stated in the video he was. So coming to the rescue of a you tube personality is textbook fanboy behavior. It interesting you speak on my tendencies but your inability to 1 take a joke as a joke and 2 see the irony in your statements shows your lack of comprehension on the subject. So please go back to what ever rock you crawled out of and go back to bed. Im sure this message is to long for you to read and your response will only come in the form of some short blurp about the first sentence so I look forward to seeing it soon.
I disagree about lack of competition. Throne and Liberty is coming out October 1st and has a very well thought out monetisation system which makes it very fair for free to play players. I believe that will be the game that sets the standard for how MMOs should be ran and how the pay to win aspects should be handled.
@@kirareacts u do understand kakao stole from the players like credits and items and tons items lost as in costume and mats and never replaced hell they never even apologised, its like employing a company u trusted them once to do a job they they rob u blind instead and think nothing of it, so would u trust them again and employ them again, u would be pretty dumb to do so.
While Archeage 2 looks very good and I wish it the very best, I already have an mmo I'm invested in and sadly don't have the time to pick up another one. Still, hope those who pick it up have a ton of fun, and that this doesn't go the same way as the previous two!
Thinking of my time in Archeage compared with the info available for this new version... sounds awful. I expect the potential to be ruined in various ways just like in Archeage. And too many people now turn every game into a full time job so any reliance on pvp at best will hold an mmorpg back to only being a niche game. I did really like the class design stuff quite a lot and found myself wishing there was a more quest/pve story heavy version of such a game. I also did enjoy the open world general feel immensely and some of the holiday events. So it's not like there's zero hope for this new game. I just think there's too many ways in way it can go wrong. I also loved playing with my galleon that I built myself but ultimately couldn't do much with it since there wasn't very minimal sea exploring to do that wasn't in pvp areas. I also built my own car which was fun for a bit until realizing there weren't many goals to have. I was with an active powerful guild for a while too, so I did experience that side of the game.. and it got old real fast. Too hectic to keep up with that side of things in such a game.
If the original game was good, the monetization wouldn't have stopped it's success. In fact, games tend to fail first AND THEN they implement heavy monetization to make up for the money lost due to the failure. I have played A LOT of games with micro-transactions over the years and in my experience, the more successful a game gets, the less P2W and more casual friendly they become. If they have a large player-base, they have less a need to squeeze those whales for every penny. There are WAY more causals than there are hardcore players, and causals do actually spend casually even if they don't play a whole lot, since they actually have jobs.
Kakao running it is kinda scary. I liked archeage when I played it originally in beta and release, I just never like open world PvP, so I quit long before trion ruined it. I'd welcome a chance to give the vision another shot, but I know I won't play it for long =v = I hope its good though, because that action combat looks like it'll be so much fun.
Complete disinterest until post-release monitisation strategy is known. Anything said until that point is utterly meaningless. You'd be utterly to sane to invest any hype (or money) into the title until that point.
man I remmber when captain shack (the XPgamer) did the video for Archage pre launch when they the paid beta and he loved it. game launch the launch was a disaster. housing just broke on day 1. and then later he did the video about how the first video he did (beta video) was no longer true like all the good thing he said was gone.
Seems strange watching one of your videos where you throw out all your usual critical thinking and analysis to glaze a game that has next to no info out about it. 80% of this video is you hyping it up on it might be this or that and then quickly glossing over the failures of the other 2 archeage failures. I was a big archeage fan ($150 beta player) and want this to be good but this video just seems weird coming from you.
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I dunno man, "very high system requirement" sounds like a terrible decision for a genre of game that needs a good amount of players to exist.
I remember when EQ2 came out, if you set all the graphics to Maximum it would tell you no PC that currently existed could run it properly at that level. Real galaxy brain decision by the devs.
That kind of general accessibility is one of the reasons why mobile games are so popular and console games apparently still too - no matter what some few spiteful, naysaying, Reddit basement dwelling PC gamer masterrace gigachads are repeatedly spewing in their toxic echo chambers.
I don't think this is going to be an MMO. I think they plan for it to have a low player count.
Negative of the high req: A lot of people won't be able to play it on their current machine.
Positive about the high req: It future proofs the graphics. When it is now top end graphics, in a few years it may still look reasonably good. (you know what I mean?)
The game seems to go for a realistic art design, which needs good graphics to look good. It's not very stylized/ cartoonified, which is a choice I respect.
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Besides that not just the recommended req is high, but the minimum is pretty darn high, too. So I really don't know how this game is supposed be able to run on a current gen console, lol.
@@glitchygrub I don't think so, it's going to be cross platform so the player counts should be higher. This might mean more worlds or instances as I don't think there will be nearly as many players on a single server like Archeage 1, but if PC's are at least making the minimum spec, should be about on-par with consoles.
Recommended : RTX 4060
Also runs on console
Sure bro, sure
NASA supercomputer in a white living room box worth few hundred bucks. But the PRO version runs old games at 60 FPS.
Cinematic 30FPS on console LOL?
If you've played any new console/PC game, you know you need a RTX 4060 to match the console's performance. It's truly disgusting how badly so many PC ports have been optimized. The PC hardware is good, but it's wasted on bad optimization.
@@BobBlibor ye it's sad, that could be said for most if not all PC ports as we wouldn't be the main focus when compared to console users
i fucking loved archeage, but i won't be "got" again by them. best MMO i've ever played, but the HORRIFIC p2w, the bait and switch with unchained being no sub, no p2w, then going back on both of these, and the way they treated the game and community over the years, i'm not going to be putting myself through it again. not a chance, there is absolutely zero chance this game does not end up horrendously pay to win.
how can you love it when they deleted and removed accounts and its a pay 2 win game
The is the reason why my hype level stays low. ArcheAge is the best PvP / open world MMO I have played, but it is painful how the p2w ruined it.
That said, if the PVE and safe zones are developed enough, I could see myself being tempted in a more chill approach. P2w isn't as much of a problem in these environments. Play at your own pace kind of things
Archeage alpha was handsdown the best MMORPG experience i ever had
Even 2004 loggin into WoW doesnt beat it.
Thunderstruck logs go p2w brrrrr in cash shop 😂
Question for someone now finding out about this series. How is the single player experience?
"Very high system requirements" ... Let me guess: Unreal Engine 5, with a heavy utilization of Nanite and Lumen? Just so the devs find out in their betas that most PCs cant run it smoothly and have to drop the quality of both down to hell, making the game not just run, but also look worse than it would have with handmade lightning and LODs?
man, how did you know? /s
B-b-but... gRaPhIcS and my expensive NASA supercomputer...!
@@Lenariet Yea, NASA supercomputer in a white living room box worth few hundred bucks. But the new PS5 can run old games at 60 FPS.
@_Just_John but new ones need to have separate playing and marketing modes. At least most start in playing.
Let me guess, Still playing Nintendo 64 graphics WoW. With a Nvidia 1060. If devs didn't try to push graphics every game would look like glitchy 💩 WoW.
That said. U.E 5 does need more optimization for high fps.
I don't think there is a single Korean MMO I've played that i didn't drop after a week. Most are P2W and grindy as all hell with lackluster storytelling.
Tera was great until it wasnt
Most of their content is sitting in horribly organized menus with horrific ui. Throne and liberty already looks daunting
@@GenDrake3 And massive paywalls
The only good korean MMO is black desert, it's just sad the developers have so much less resources than bigger game studios to create content for the game :(
You are saying that because you are not into pvp and want to pve alone... Otherwise you would have understood what lineage 2 did better than any other tittle. But yeah zoomers with limited attention spam want carebear pve nowadays...
Just because of who is involved, there's no way I'll have any hype for this.
This is gonna be one of the heaviest monetized games in history.
"kakao games" I was worried the moment that screen showed.
because they are thieves.
Archeage is cursed.
Which company are you not worried about?
Because this time it is going to be different.
This really feels like an ad
I was wondering if this was sponsored tbh
This feels like a sadly common but awful take.
Don't get it wrong, I'm not blaming you for being suspicious, but Kira was reasonable and cautious, and sadly we live in an internet where not expressing some opinions will make some people think you're a shill or whatever else bad person, depending on the opinion you're supposed to have.
One is my fondest and oddly funniest memories from my time in ArcheAge was building my first boat, putting the Kuroneko Character from a degenerate anime on my sail and doing dodgey solo tradepack suns across the ocean. The craziest thing that ever happened was when a pirate vessel with Pedobear on her mainsail gave chase. I luckily evaded them, but of course screencapped for posterity.
if they somehow at least manage to have 5 different endgame gameplay loops, then it will be excelent. Not just the heavily guided zerge down enemies for specific drops gameplay loop. that is pretty much the same for each day.
*Their first game centred on hyper monitization, greed and scumbaggery..... But we have a "trust me bro" from the studio, for it's sequel..... No thanks!!*
*It'll be just as scummy no doubt.* 😂😂
Too bad I won't be able to play it on my older gaming laptop. I'm priced out of big games these days, not because games cost too much, but the tech does. Guess I'll stick to 10-15 year old games as usual.
Nahh man this is Bless Unleashed 2.0 lol
Archeage: Chronicles of Elyria
Pain
Archage: Aternum..
This video felt so weird
I'll be cautiously watching. I dabbled lightly in ArcheAge from the earliest closed beta tests where you needed to hang around Reddit to snag keys etc to get in for the weekends. I then was wary of the open world PVP as an ex EVE player. But figured as a F2P game I was in no rush to dive deeper into it.
Then of course Trion went belly up and I intially welcomed the Gamigo news as I didn't know their story yet. I bought the middle preorder Unchained bundle i think I eagerly awaited what would come. That clearly soured fast.
Now adays I daily Star Trek Online and have an active sub to FF XIV and dabbled lightly into GW2. I'm not sure Firran will be able to fit in alongside Caitians, Hrothgar and Charr again. But I truly hope it won't go as badly as AA 1 ended up, if only as at least one person I am close to was hugely into AA and I would love to see them truly happy with AA 2.
Ive never heard Kira this excited
He really loved Archeage for a time, so I don't blame him for being hopeful.
co-op or multiplayer can be really fun. One of my favorite games of all time is Guild Wars 1 and that's not really an MMO. The cities and towns were hubs and you would gather a party of people and/or NPCs and explore zones as a group of 4, 6 or 8 depending on how far you had progressed the story.
Guild Wars 1 is still one of my all time favorite games but they really nailed the combat and I primarily pvped. Enemy NPCs had the abilities of players. It was incredibly tactical and responsive. The classes were an interesting and fresh twist on the holy trinity. Guild Wars 1 is my nostalgia essentially and I tend to compare everything I've played since to it - League of Legends, New World, etc...
If Archeage can pull something similar off then it could be a success for them and I might actually consider getting a Playstation subscription and maybe even a Playstation console. I haven't to this point because I don't do single player RPGs. I play games to play with others.
imagine the monetization possibilities in this one, I'm sure i will be next-gen with those
Gave up playing MMOs a few years ago but like to hear about them still.
damn Kakao Games.. even Amazon is a better publisher..
Nothing is next generation about this game unless 5000 players can be on screen at the same time in a massive PvE/PvP/PvEvP battle. These games always have tons of instanced content and low actual player count due to network/engine limitations. And scripting in most MMO's are just as bad as they were 20 years ago.
Next generation just means it can run on consoles at 30% the quality of a high end pc, it's just pointless console talk that's been left in the dust for the past 30 years.
It's not just network/engine limitations. There are also severe gameplay implications. In my experience the more people the more chaotic and braindead things become. You just can't do a whole lot of good, meaningful gameplay with too many people, especially not in PvE - unless you enjoy tons of kill stealing, resource competition or world boss battles where there are so many effects on screen that you might get an epileptic seizure (if your rig can even handle all that and won't drop into single digit FPS). I assume that's also why a majority of coop games have settled with 4-5 players max. In game design more doesn't necessarily mean better. I'm always a little surprised how some people seem to struggle to understand that and tend to wet their pants in sheer excitement over "thousand this" and "bazillion that". This sort of naivety is one of the reasons why genuine scammers or studios like HelloGames get away with how they misrepresent their games. It's not a crime to be excited for things, but this attitude and in part also uneducation about simple game design necessities is setting these people up to get disappointed. No wonder some can't enjoy MMOs anymore with these unrealistic expectations.
@@Lenariet When you've got a lot of people fighting at once, the only real choice to be useful will be whoever had the best AoE, because single target effects will simply not be worth it.
@Kira i just read this on the Steam Page Announcement:
This upcoming online action RPG will deliver unparalleled immersive gameplay, with a strong emphasis on intense, visceral combat.
In lieu of a direct sequel, we've prepared a fresh take on the ArcheAge universe by shifting away from large-scale competitive battles to smaller group activities and interactive adventures. Our aim is for ArcheAge Chronicles to be approachable and enjoyable for both veteran players as well as those who are just joining our world.
I think this is the first time I've ever heard Kira put something in a positive light. :^) -- I played AA1 shortly after launch for awhile, he's not wrong. Game was fantastic, until it wasn't. So this is cautiously exciting. **VERY** cautiously.
This is the most hopeful I’ve seen Kira in a long time, almost like he’s advertising for the game lol. What happened today Kira, you just have an overly exciting day today?
Yo Kira, good to hear from ya man. Thanks for the video.
Dude I remember when archage first came out my brother and i were going out on the sea stealing trade packs and causing chaos,
it was truly an epic mmo back then, hope archage 2 will stand out too
Archeage? Didn't that horribly fail?
Yes because they became play to win. I was there for the launch and they fucked up which would have been a great game.
@@kellygoodman6167pay2win* Thunderstruck logs...
Unless there are compelling quests and a way to completely opt out from PvP, I can't see myself playing it. To me, the most important part of any MMO is that the world has to be a nice place to be and spend time in. If I have to worry about getting ganked while in the open world it is not a place I like to spend time in. Good quest design is also important as it gives life to the world aside from just player to player interaction and also gives you stuff to do even if there's not many people playing at the time. Also having NPC characters to get attached to is important to me, as even though I enjoy beef between guilds and stuff, I don't get as attached to that stuff as I do to well written characters and having some sort of attachment to the game is important for me to keep playing it.
Game looks pretty and combat looks fun, but kinda worried about stuff to do outside of combat and monetisation
I think Archeage is one of the greatest mmos of our time. its tragic that greed killed it
Great video. I also just enjoyed hearing you talk about something that you believe has exciting possibilities.
In b4 it's ruined by p2w. what you can't spend 100s a week on RNG gear upgrades and rng loot boxes. looks like you'll be content for those who do. or perpetually behind the curve.
Why would they even name it archeage, thats just sets up enough red flags
I just gotta say this as someone entirely new to the scene, "It's looking like an MMO Elden Ring". And that's kinda what sold me.
I was just day dreaming about my old days in Archeage and wondering if they had any private servers.
archerage and aaclassic are the things you want to google for
“...It completely lost what it was meant to be by trying to become something it was not. And no one wanted what it became.” This is pure poetry, my friend! This is the #1 killer of creative expression (and living authentically).
I have amazing memories and friendships from the old ArcheAge. I remember the game becoming worse and worse, people leaving, guildies houses getting demolished... It was kinda sad. Years later I reinstalled AA, my characters were still there, so I rode/drove/sailed around on my mounts, vehicles and boats, visited old places. Some time later there was the announcement people need to log in to get their characters transferred to the new servers or they get deleted. I didn't log in, I decided to let the past die and keep the good memories. So it is kinda baffling kakao games are trying it again.
Good job Ashes of Creation is still 75 years away from Beta...
“Next generation of mmos”
*10 player limit*
🤡 archeage 0.5.
I tried Archeage at launch. Bots were everywhere, taking all the land, porting to complete caravan quests instantly, farming / exploiting everything. It was nuts and not what I expected. Nonbots would kill/boss steal, node steal, and act like unbelievable assholes in-game on a level I never knew was possible. I quit and never looked back. The funny thing is that this sort of bullshit became the norm. Kids seemed to think that running 3rd party programs to cheat wasn't cheating, just "how they liked to play the game," and it was fine if they were ruining the game for everyone else, all that matter was their own experience. They were afraid to group with others, refused to cooperate when they did, and had no reservations about lying, cheating, and stealing, and used the report function purely as a means to bully others. New MMORPGs never really recaptured their former glory after that (2013) and most things entertainment-wise turned into shit from 2014 on. That's pretty much humanity's experience as a whole trying to deal with Millennials. And for me, it all started with Archeage.
I'm gonna be real. This doesn't look like an MMO. It doesn't even look like Archeage. Where's the fucking library grind?
you liked library grind? wtf is wrong with you
@@CreetEnemyDK lmao
Archages court system was the best attempt for a judicial system in a game ever to date.
Being captured then going to court and having a judge who was a player, then being found guilty or not guilty followed by going to jail and talking with the people there about how you got cought or if you were infamous players just being in awe you finally got caught
Is the most unique and amazing experience in gaming bar none.i really hope it returns
It was a cool idea in theory but in practice it was just everyone getting a laugh at the person on trial before hitting guilty. You would never see an innocent verdict unless it was some small amount of time, because that's boring and uninteresting.
I actually liked the first one. Minus the absolutely awful monetization. And time gating crafting mechanics with mobile practices like stamina. I thought the gliding was cool. Building ships and sailing the sea and being a pirate was fun. The pvp unless you were up against a mega whale was not bad. owning your own property and building a guild hall was great. I hope they do all of this but make it better and far less nickle and diming your customers every time you want to do something. The p2w was some of the worst i have ever experienced.
Great video, short and sweet, to the point, subscribed.
ArcheAge had almost the exact same monetization as EVE Online. Monetization practices weren’t the problem. The problem was the power gap offered by gear was beyond insane and once you have that gear you will never lose it.
Nobody cares if the person one shotting them 6 months in on a character they’ve actively played that whole time swiped or no-lifed to get there. They care that they just got one shot on a character they’ve spent hundreds of hours grinding.
If AA2 doesn’t address that I could care less how they monetize it. It will be a hard pass from me.
The only thing i disliked about original Archeage was the server merges. I get why they did it....but when you're a land baron with almost 30 buildings down across both continents that took months to get just right and then having to reset it over and over made it very frustrating.
Cryyfuu clips got me feeling nostalgic. Damn, feels like a lifetime ago.
Awesome overview.
I hope they've learnt their lesson, my favourite gaming moments are from the original. So I'll hold onto hope after everything they do the right thing
Any MMO with pay2win mechanics is doomed to fail. They can make the best gameplay and systems in the world that won't matter if real life economics can influence the game. Without its own eco system nothing matters long term.
Every mmo has p2w mechanics, so that's simply untrue.
You clearly have no clue about MMO’s and their economics. It’s pretty easy to check some lists of most played/profitable MMO’s and there’s several heavily p2w MMO’s there.
every mmo is p2w now stfu xD and play your mobile games
Damn. i didn't know the sad tale of Archeage. You are correct. This was a disaster for what could've been great.
Highly. Caustiously optimistic.
It looks exactly like what i wpuld want in a new MMO.
Lets see how it turns out.
This feels like an advertisement
Kira, you're selling us this game pretty well with this video. I put it on my wish list and will follow the news. Lets hope it'll become as good as you hope it will be.
A lot of potential here. Color me intrigued but also very wary.
I had to share a house because so many people brought land 😂 I loved crafting and farming I remember the pirates robbed me and my teammates but we had so much fun. Then they fucked up and made it play to win. I’ll wait for the reviews
I can’t wait for Archeage 2. Played the first one a lot.
I really did love Archeage until it went into a tailspin. The pvp and criminal system in the game was pretty damn fun. Even the skirmishes when it came to trade runs where memorable.
Archeage 1 was from day 1 very heavy pay to win, you needed a tranport tractor to transport trade packs, which needed a tree that needed to be struck by lightning to make the engine. The only realistic way to do that was to buy the high likely hood of being struck by lightning from the cash shop loot box. I expect this game to be worse than that, even tho i am exited to see it
What's curious is that the PS5 trailer made it seem like a Monster Hunter-like singleplayer/co-op game, with the whole "Online multiplayer requires PS+". I don't think MMOs require PS+. I'm certain Tera didn't. I know Anthem required PS+ for co-op, but I think the core game worked without it. It might very well be that their plans have changed deeply. I think if it was ArcheAge 2, they would've called it ArcheAge 2. I don't know. I hope it is an MMO, I miss the old ArcheAge days, I had a blast for a few months with the re-release. The game was amazing. If this isn't an MMO, it still looked good, so I'll probably play it.
AA1 was very innovative, but it's also one of the most p2w games I've ever played. In that game it's morally justified for the rich to steal from the homeless(and I'm talking hall monitor type stuff) so you need to join a guild or join pirates if you wanted to make any long term progress without paying for a home as a F2P player. Hopefully things changed since I left.
Had one of the best weapons on a server back in the day thanks to dumb luck miss that game
For some people, if the game have more than 2 people is massive and considered MMO nowadays 😂
I've never seen that said before.
This sounds like an AD. This looks like mostly UE5 assets tacked together. Trailer even looks like a UE5 tech demo... weird video Kira
It really does feel like an ad the whole way through.
I kinda thought that was intentional. on the surface the game looks great, then *record scratch* KakaoGames, p2w etc.
@@kennethnoisewater4423 I thought that would be what happens but there wasn't really ever that moment. He reaches the end of the video praising it still and talking about how excited he is. Idk it rubs me very strangely. I'm sure Kira wants this game to be good but surely he can't be on enough copium to buy the hype
I never played Archeage but I did spend years on Black Desert Online. Had to quit due to mental health issues that game and the gear upgrading systems have caused me (don't you love it when everything you own downgrades and breaks, costing hours to fix?). If Archeage Chronicles has no downgrade systems then I might check it out. I honestly don't care that much about p2w aspects except for when they cause what you already own to get worse because you didn't pay for safeguards to stop the possibility of downgrade.
nothing downgrades, you just end up stuck not being able to upgrade anymore since the trade runs that make you actual gold get stolen by p2w guys with impossible to obtain gear that will beat you up non stop and all you can do is stop playing, no pvp area will be accessible since they will be camping, the labour sistem will make sure to make the game unplayable since all you can do without labour is.. walk around. The game is great, they screwed it up real good tho.. I suggest you to go for ArcheRage instead, not that p2w at the cost of a few updates behind. Gl
@@aty4282 items did downgrade or break when you were regrading them
It’s crazy how u said the Competition is nonexistent when 2025 is literally THE YEAR for Action MMO RPG games. We got Chrono Odyssey, Crimson Desert, DokeV (really that’s releasing in 2026 due to them prioritizing Crimson Desert first) we got Dune Awakening, Where Winds Meet, and Hell Is Us
The competition is definitely there 😂
My wallet gonna be drained next year😭🤣
Idk why but it felt weird hearing a hopeful kira video
The moment I saw the Trion logo I knew...
The high system requirements in combination with action combat make me think this is not going to be a "real" MMORPG. If I wanted intense action combat and graphics, I would play God of War or something.
It’s deffo going to be like Bless online glad you said it at the end 🤣
I had never heard of the original. Based on the trailer I thought co-op story based rpg. Will it still have story? I’m happy it’s action based.
I'm ngl that character looking like it was running full speed but moving in slow motion kinda throwing me off.
This is going to yet another MMORPG flop. Goes to show how many people don't know the definition of insanity...
You don't know the definition of insanity, clearly
There has only been one game in the history of Korea that had a respectable business model combined with quality. I doubt this one will be the second
Asians just can't do MMO's. Something in their genetics.
oh boy, stay away from this one guys, after what they did to Archeage i'm sure Archeage Chronicles will be even more grindy and pay to win. i have never in my life played a game where crafting was pay to win until Archeage, yes you read that correctly, they figured out a way to monetize crafting and that killed Archeage.
12:08 I'd say its probably a fair bet the cash shop won't make half the players quit overnight. More due to lowered standards for monetization than anything else though.
They better make up for what they did with AA and AA:U. Still pissed about that
1:30 doesn't sound like it's the case based on this quote from the Executive Producer
"In lieu of a direct sequel, we've prepared a fresh take on the ArcheAge universe by shifting away from large-scale competitive battles to smaller group activities and interactive adventures. Our aim is for ArcheAge Chronicles to be approachable and enjoyable for both veteran players as well as those who are just joining our world."
The only mmo worth it at the moment is still & only Final Fantasy 14 but this one looks stunning. I would try 🙏🏼
This sounds too good to be true. As such I'll be ignoring that initial gut reaction and throwing money at this as soon as I can. You know, like a moron would do.
Sponsored by Archage and Kakao Games?
Chronically online take. Just because a youtuber isn't overly opinionated on anything you dislike doesn't mean he's a paid shill. Kira has bashed Kakao before and made clear to remind us of the bad, but he knows he can't see the future so he's being cautious.
@@ekki1993 Chronically boring take. Just because someone makes a joke about a person fanboying over a game does not mean we have not all done it once before or that you need to be a guardian for him. Also, Who said i didn't like it? sounds like your just looking for a chance to defend your crush. Easy there sport no one is gonna harm your factious lover.
@@everlonggaming1966 Wdym fanboying? The overall message of the video was negative. You do seem to have a tendency to make up stories so I don't blame you.
@@ekki1993 aww do they not have reading comprehension where your from? your comment was an attempt to defend someone who was excited about a game without knowing anything about it. He stated in the video he was. So coming to the rescue of a you tube personality is textbook fanboy behavior. It interesting you speak on my tendencies but your inability to 1 take a joke as a joke and 2 see the irony in your statements shows your lack of comprehension on the subject. So please go back to what ever rock you crawled out of and go back to bed. Im sure this message is to long for you to read and your response will only come in the form of some short blurp about the first sentence so I look forward to seeing it soon.
@@ekki1993 You are in every comment thread that says this feels like an ad defending him. Maybe he shouldn't have made it feel like an ad?
I disagree about lack of competition. Throne and Liberty is coming out October 1st and has a very well thought out monetisation system which makes it very fair for free to play players. I believe that will be the game that sets the standard for how MMOs should be ran and how the pay to win aspects should be handled.
Tnl is likely to be dead long before this releases.
@@kirareacts if TnL dies before new world i will do infinite backflips
👍
@@kirareacts Yeh but why did you make this video feel like it's an advertisement?
I didn't.
hope they paid well bro
Is "they" in the room with you bro?
@@kirareacts u do understand kakao stole from the players like credits and items and tons items lost as in costume and mats and never replaced hell they never even apologised, its like employing a company u trusted them once to do a job they they rob u blind instead and think nothing of it, so would u trust them again and employ them again, u would be pretty dumb to do so.
Are you replying to someone else? Because nothing you just said had any relevance to anything I said.
While Archeage 2 looks very good and I wish it the very best, I already have an mmo I'm invested in and sadly don't have the time to pick up another one. Still, hope those who pick it up have a ton of fun, and that this doesn't go the same way as the previous two!
FNTASTIC is back and are making a new game called Escape Factory
I want it to be good, but I have no trust in a Korean mmo to not have some of the most dog-shit monetisation around. I guess we'll see.
This is possibly a blind shot, but does someone who played the old ArcheAge on European servers remember Fishermandan?
Betting that the microtransactions will kill it, leaving this here so I can comeback at that time.
Thinking of my time in Archeage compared with the info available for this new version... sounds awful. I expect the potential to be ruined in various ways just like in Archeage. And too many people now turn every game into a full time job so any reliance on pvp at best will hold an mmorpg back to only being a niche game. I did really like the class design stuff quite a lot and found myself wishing there was a more quest/pve story heavy version of such a game. I also did enjoy the open world general feel immensely and some of the holiday events. So it's not like there's zero hope for this new game. I just think there's too many ways in way it can go wrong.
I also loved playing with my galleon that I built myself but ultimately couldn't do much with it since there wasn't very minimal sea exploring to do that wasn't in pvp areas. I also built my own car which was fun for a bit until realizing there weren't many goals to have. I was with an active powerful guild for a while too, so I did experience that side of the game.. and it got old real fast. Too hectic to keep up with that side of things in such a game.
It looks amazing , but if there is no pvp i wont be so excited.
If the original game was good, the monetization wouldn't have stopped it's success. In fact, games tend to fail first AND THEN they implement heavy monetization to make up for the money lost due to the failure.
I have played A LOT of games with micro-transactions over the years and in my experience, the more successful a game gets, the less P2W and more casual friendly they become. If they have a large player-base, they have less a need to squeeze those whales for every penny. There are WAY more causals than there are hardcore players, and causals do actually spend casually even if they don't play a whole lot, since they actually have jobs.
Kakao running it is kinda scary. I liked archeage when I played it originally in beta and release, I just never like open world PvP, so I quit long before trion ruined it. I'd welcome a chance to give the vision another shot, but I know I won't play it for long =v = I hope its good though, because that action combat looks like it'll be so much fun.
Complete disinterest until post-release monitisation strategy is known. Anything said until that point is utterly meaningless. You'd be utterly to sane to invest any hype (or money) into the title until that point.
Try ArcheAge Classic. A non p2w private server, brings back the amazing game.
Is this a Paid Promo?
Unless it says it's a paid promo, it isn't a paid promo. This info should help you moving forward in life.
Sorry Kira, I'm acting like a bloody idiot.
All good, at least you didn't double down like a lot of people have. I always respect that.
kakao = zero expectations
(I'm just curious how much they will milk their cow)
man I remmber when captain shack (the XPgamer) did the video for Archage pre launch when they the paid beta and he loved it.
game launch the launch was a disaster. housing just broke on day 1.
and then later he did the video about how the first video he did (beta video) was no longer true like all the good thing he said was gone.
Seems strange watching one of your videos where you throw out all your usual critical thinking and analysis to glaze a game that has next to no info out about it. 80% of this video is you hyping it up on it might be this or that and then quickly glossing over the failures of the other 2 archeage failures. I was a big archeage fan ($150 beta player) and want this to be good but this video just seems weird coming from you.
Yeh this feels like an ad...
Yeah... if it doesn't have the mix and match skillsets, ocean content, and open world pvp it isn't archeage.