Choosing Violence - John Brown - US History - Part 2 - Extra History

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    John Brown is starting an army, and he tells Frederic Douglas he's set on it. He believes slavery cannot be abolished without violence and his speech is very convincing. This would be his first step on the path to what is now called Bleeding Kansas.
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  • @extrahistory
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    • @Texanprime
      @Texanprime Год назад +5

      Please do Texas revolution please extra history

    • @Geolaminar
      @Geolaminar Год назад +1

      Last time I was this early Harper's Ferry was intact

    • @theoneandonlydetraebean8286
      @theoneandonlydetraebean8286 Год назад +1

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    • @robertjarman3703
      @robertjarman3703 Год назад

      The South treated their slaves like the Kim Family treats North Koreans, worse in some ways given the life expectancy. Who would say that the people of North Korea lack a right to revolution?

    • @haufjzo
      @haufjzo Год назад +2

      I have an request. Can you Skanderbeg also known as athlete of Christ pls? He is a great warrior who we don’t talk much about him and he defended Europe from Ottomans

  • @florians9949
    @florians9949 Год назад +2160

    Allowing slavers to capture ‘runaway slaves’ simply by verbal claims? Man I can’t see this being abused in any way.

    • @jdfigs5916
      @jdfigs5916 Год назад +160

      Yeah they were asking for violence at that point

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz Год назад +58

      It was abused

    • @LEEboneisDaMan
      @LEEboneisDaMan Год назад +209

      It’s even worse than that. According to the law, legal officials involved got paid MORE if the person in question was determined to be an escaped slave than if they were determined to be a free person.
      There was literally a financial reason to side with the slavers…

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 Год назад +13

      @@jdfigs5916 They still do today.

    • @panzerwolf494
      @panzerwolf494 Год назад +7

      It was, quite a bit.

  • @MrPhilsterable
    @MrPhilsterable Год назад +1453

    "His zeal in the cause of my race was far greater than mine - it was as the burning sun to my taper light - mine was bounded by time, his stretched away to the boundless shores of eternity. I could live for the slave, but he could die for him." From Frederick Douglas's Harper's Ferry address in 1881.

    • @shadowrain1024
      @shadowrain1024 Год назад +90

      That quote is an absolute banger

    • @youronlyfriend933
      @youronlyfriend933 Год назад +106

      @@shadowrain1024 Frederick Douglas has a lot of bangers tbh

    • @rparl
      @rparl Год назад

      I just finished Up From Slavery by Booker T Washington on Kindle. It ended before this.

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey Год назад +63

      Jesus christ, Fredrick Douglass was one of the greatest orators of all time.

    • @ostensiblyaverage5576
      @ostensiblyaverage5576 Год назад +27

      @@youronlyfriend933 Frederick Douglas was a banger tbh

  • @unknownuser3926
    @unknownuser3926 Год назад +477

    No matter how bad the acts of Bleeding Kansas were, they paled in comparison to the inhuman horrors of everyday slavery. There are few acts of violence as awful as slavery ever was as I'd consider enslavement (and all that came with it) to be one of the worst acts imaginable.

    • @vienlacrose
      @vienlacrose Год назад +8

      Remember: the animal husbandry industry is what humans do to things that aren't human.

    • @whm_w8833
      @whm_w8833 11 месяцев назад +2

      Or people should have saw the horror of the Civil War when Bleeding Kansas occurred and should have made a more thoughtful and forceful debate whether slavery should be ban

    • @TheBathrobeWizard
      @TheBathrobeWizard 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@whm_w8833 to be fair, slavery was primarily the reason for all the Bloody KS.
      But it was a whirlwind of alot of chaos in KS at the time. Cattle drives, "Frontier Troubles (predators, lack of supplies, Hostile indigenous persons, lack of medical attention)" , the Kansas Nebraska act was kinda just the detonator on a pile of c4 that was already getting big because "Hey guys, I Found Free Land over here"

    • @TheGreatCd
      @TheGreatCd 6 дней назад

      Yup

  • @CooperAATE
    @CooperAATE Год назад +672

    An actual American hero, that man.

  • @JIJCrow
    @JIJCrow Год назад +2170

    Extra History is teaching a South African in a village in South Africa in the Northern Province about a 19th Century American radical abolitionist,thank you ❤️

    • @slayden2737
      @slayden2737 Год назад +42

      That's so amazing

    • @secularsekai8910
      @secularsekai8910 Год назад +33

      Thank you for taking an interest and learning ❤

    • @pavan923
      @pavan923 Год назад +24

      I always wanted to visit Durban to see the Tamil community there

    • @CodaMission
      @CodaMission Год назад +25

      What irony, since the peaceful end of Apartheid was considered so miraculous to the 20th century.
      The violent revolution that should have come in America,
      and the peaceful reconciliation that wasn't expected to come in South Africa.

    • @thefirmamentalist9922
      @thefirmamentalist9922 Год назад +6

      @@CodaMission South Africa is in chaos right now.

  • @rnpola9408
    @rnpola9408 Год назад +1060

    As a Kansan myself I'm very excited to learn more about the period of Bleeding Kansas, because it was tragically glossed over in my school when we learned about the civil war. Thank you EH for teaching what schools won't.

    • @shebehere2452
      @shebehere2452 Год назад +22

      Thank you for seeking out knowlage in a time where its selective.

    • @roberteltze4850
      @roberteltze4850 Год назад +32

      Another fellow Kansan, I've always liked the story of Henry Beecher since a junior high history teacher taught it to us about 40 years ago.
      Henry was a pastor in New York city and a very avid abolitionist (his sister was the famous abolitionist author Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of Uncle Tom's Cabin). Henry raised money to send members of his congregation to Kansas to help sway it to be a free state. They settled here and founded the town of Wabaunsee (about 10 miles east of Manhattan).
      What violence broke out in Kansas he raised money to send them a shipment of Sharps rifles. To prevent them from being seized by the border ruffians they were shipped in crates labeled "Books and Bibles". Those rifles became known as Beecher's Bibles.

    • @amrosh791
      @amrosh791 Год назад +4

      Part of the reason schools don't is that its a mess and hard to explain in the time you have in a school setting. The dynamic of all the people coming from out of state to fight for their opinion, and how much of it was not actually "bloody" (at least not many actual lives lost) complicates how to articulate the scenario.

    • @BookofFuture
      @BookofFuture Год назад +1

      A lot of history from the Civil War and Reconstruction has been glossed over. It’s sad that attempts to cover these eras have been derided as CRT or “woke” when it’s simply American history.

    • @stephenflint3640
      @stephenflint3640 Год назад +10

      ​@roberteltze4850 Beechers bibles; not gonna lie that's pretty fuckin cold.

  • @oscarpreuss2347
    @oscarpreuss2347 Год назад +344

    When churches donate swords and rifles to you, that’s when you know it’s about to get wild

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 Год назад +27

      Well, the prayer says "God is my shepherd", and sometimes, to be a good shepherd, it is necessary to kill the wolves that threaten the peace of the flock.

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 Год назад +3

      @Content_enjoyer if the "intervention" is "some people will be their rights and freedom denied because of an arbitrary belief", than the game MUST be broken by the players, developers be damned.

    • @pauldirc..
      @pauldirc.. Год назад

      On this instance i remember famous song of django unchained from john legend
      "Now I am not afraid to do the Lord's work
      You say vengeance is his but Imma do it first
      I'm gonna handle my business in the name of the Law, mmh
      Now if he made you cry oh I gotta know
      If he's not ready to die, he best prepare for it
      My judgment's divine I'll tell you who you can call
      You can call
      You better call the police
      Call the coroner"

    • @prestonjones1653
      @prestonjones1653 5 месяцев назад

      [Insert Sabaton's Last Stand here]

    • @comettamer
      @comettamer Месяц назад

      Swords of the Lord indeed.

  • @jaohonaxa
    @jaohonaxa Год назад +555

    Two points that I’m glad they’re drawing attention to.
    1. John was right that emancipation by peaceful means was impossible.
    2. As violent as John got it wasn’t anything more that the other side had done or was doing.

    • @jaredsandoy5616
      @jaredsandoy5616 Год назад +13

      I mean most other other countries abolished slavery without a war.

    • @jaohonaxa
      @jaohonaxa Год назад +131

      @@jaredsandoy5616 yeah, but American abolitionists had been trying that for decades by John’s time and it was looking less likely every year.

    • @Not_actually_a_commie
      @Not_actually_a_commie Год назад +70

      Unfortunately, the institutional tension between free and slave states (which had been brewing for a long time, and over other issues) made peaceful abolition impossible in the US

    • @biggestboofer
      @biggestboofer Год назад +6

      Just cause you kill slightly less people and use slightly less torture does not automatically mean it is justified.

    • @jaredsandoy5616
      @jaredsandoy5616 Год назад +4

      @@jaohonaxa I dont see what you're basing that on. part of the reason the Fire Eaters were so paranoid was their awareness that economic and social trends were working against them.

  • @mindob766
    @mindob766 Год назад +1305

    "Rifles donated by abolitionists churches"
    God has blessed us

  • @jdfigs5916
    @jdfigs5916 Год назад +2959

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable” John F Kennedy

    • @rutger5000
      @rutger5000 Год назад +1

      Peaceful revolution is only possible when the threat of violent revolution is clear, imminent of promise a greater disruption to established power structures as a peaceful one would.

    • @chetsmith8391
      @chetsmith8391 Год назад +82

      Hi Chi Minh said that you charlatan

    • @Leivve
      @Leivve Год назад +37

      @@chetsmith8391 No, JFK did.

    • @lucitheunlucky
      @lucitheunlucky Год назад +141

      ​@@chetsmith8391JFK was the one who popularized it, although let's just say that he was a bit hypocritical.

    • @loqutor
      @loqutor Год назад +2

      Yep. That's why one of the bigger villains here was Nat Turner.

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 Год назад +899

    Violence is not a solution to be trotted out at the first inconvenience, but there are times when violence is the correct and possibly the only viable solution.

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 Год назад +56

      A lot of people lack the maturity to make that call
      And would go gun swinging over the drop of a hate

    • @change6486
      @change6486 Год назад +90

      ​@Pain Ville gaming A lot of people would also lack the moral courage to take that necessary step to enact controlled violence when necessary
      And they would sit on the sidelines indefinitely while human suffering continues unabated.

    • @andrewweitzman4006
      @andrewweitzman4006 Год назад +65

      "Violence is never an answer. It is, however, sometimes a question. And sometimes, the answer to it is 'yes'."

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Год назад +63

      To proclaim 'violence is *never* the answer' infantilizes and disrespects the sword-shatterer, the chain-breaker, the *hero.*

    • @GinamosWithCherryOnTop
      @GinamosWithCherryOnTop Год назад +2

      And that is why duterte was so popular in the Philippines

  • @justinalicea1590
    @justinalicea1590 Год назад +514

    3:33 Learning what we did in the first episode, that practically happened. Witnessing slavery as a child and the beatings people his age were given simply because they were enslaved definitely had that kind of impact on him.

    • @pocketheart1450
      @pocketheart1450 Год назад +60

      He was obviously deeply traumatized by watching this friend get beaten basically to death.

    • @mariuskaesser
      @mariuskaesser Год назад +12

      While I agree that he was not untouched by slavery, I disagree. The fact is he could walk home and had his freedom. Also he was not phisically harmed unlike the other boy. Witnessing these injustice is traumatizing but it is not as traumatizing as actually surviving them.

    • @jordanetherington1922
      @jordanetherington1922 Год назад +40

      ​@@mariuskaesser no one said they were

    • @mariuskaesser
      @mariuskaesser Год назад +1

      ​@@jordanetherington1922 I am sorry if I was wrong but it kinda felt like they did 🤷‍♂

    • @cheesypower3282
      @cheesypower3282 Год назад +47

      @@mariuskaesser Trauma isn't a competition bro- just because somebody's deep, scarring wound isn't "as bad" as somebody else's doesn't mean there isn't common ground between the two.

  • @thatfrenchguy-gj1fx
    @thatfrenchguy-gj1fx Год назад +151

    Rest in peace John Brow you did the right thing

  • @weaselwolf
    @weaselwolf Год назад +180

    So when I was a kid in school we'd sing 'John brown's baby' to the tune of 'John brown's body' it was a stupid little song and dance where we'd omit a word and replace it with a gesture.
    We were NEVER taught the actual words, or anything about the actual man.
    I remember being absolutely incensed when I found out that rather than a touching ballad of a radical hero we were taught a nonsense baby song.
    Finding out how many of his children died of disease only makes the whole thing worse. It's not just trying to erase the real man it's also a cruel insult.

  • @chaddoyle7719
    @chaddoyle7719 Год назад +268

    “As though his own soul had been pierced by the iron of slavery” that hit hard I hope someday someone can feel that type of way for me

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson Год назад

      Are you a slave?

    • @stevencooper4422
      @stevencooper4422 Год назад +15

      Stop focusing on the past. Find a worthwhile cause in the class struggles of today.

    • @Thepeanutcollector
      @Thepeanutcollector 4 месяца назад +1

      @@stevencooper4422 “Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.”

  • @joeystudios5973
    @joeystudios5973 Год назад +194

    What makes this awesome, is that in my history class we are right now learning about the Civil War and this video suddenly came up in my recommendation. Thanks for teaching me, what I needed to know.

    • @Zeknif1
      @Zeknif1 Год назад +3

      If at any point you develop the opinion that General Ulysses S Grant was a simple minded commander who could only fight with vast numerical superiority to simply brute force his way through his opponents, as most school issued history books coverage focuses on his Appomattox Campaign, I would recommend reading up on his Mississippi River campaign (most notably the campaign to take Vicksburg) as this is most often summarized in footnotes. Along with Stonewall Jackson’s victory in Shenandoah Valley, some of Grant’s best work in the Civil War are tirelessly dissected in war colleges around the world to this day as key features of the maneuvers remain relevant to modern warfare after all this time.

  • @amdreallyfast
    @amdreallyfast Год назад +78

    @8:55 Artist's prompt: "Guns. Lots of guns."

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Год назад +55

      and swords, let's not forget the swords! .... although hard to see with all thoes guns 😂

    • @JonathanLundkvist
      @JonathanLundkvist Год назад +10

      The arsenal of freedom!

    • @ruffertorex4352
      @ruffertorex4352 Год назад

      For all the anit-2a peeps in the audience, please note how a private citizen is taking up arms against the Federal Government.

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Год назад +125

    I love this retelling of his story, I have a great admiration for this man and the work that he did. It's very easy to judge his violence from the future with no exacting knowledge of his struggles throughout his life and name him murderer. Brave, committed and righteous.
    Like deployed 👍

    • @secularmonk5176
      @secularmonk5176 Год назад +3

      "It's very easy to judge ____ from the future with no exacting knowledge of _____"

    • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
      @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Год назад

      @@secularmonk5176 very clever name, I like it very much

    • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
      @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Год назад

      @@secularmonk5176 ...I am aware of the point that you are making, do I agree? Not 100% but it has validity. 👍

    • @secularmonk5176
      @secularmonk5176 Год назад +1

      @@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
      We seem to be on enough of the same page to get along 😺

    • @secularmonk5176
      @secularmonk5176 Год назад +1

      @@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
      (about my name) Thx ... the lighter side of introverted nihilism!

  • @ThatBasedGuy
    @ThatBasedGuy Год назад +255

    Violence isn’t the answer, it’s a question and the answer is “yes”

  • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
    @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv Год назад +421

    Rules and Regulations are written with blood, as is social reform. Very few major changes in society happened without there being violence because violence, sadly, is often the only thing that makes people sit up and take notice. Not to say protests and strikes have not, but the greatest changes in society only occurred after copious amounts of blood were shed. I wish it weren’t so, god do I wish it weren’t so.

    • @ThunderRod
      @ThunderRod Год назад +7

      War never changes.

    • @literalantifaterrorist4673
      @literalantifaterrorist4673 Год назад +7

      willing to bet the next 15 years in America will be like The Troubles on steroids.

    • @Keasarr
      @Keasarr Год назад +35

      The blood is only spilled though when those who resist change in the end take to weapons to defend the status quo. A revolution is seldom violent until the counter-revolution answers with violence. Great social change can happen though when there is enough people who refuse to help defend system of oppression, but that peace is only relative to capital means of the defenders who almost inevitably will take to weapons to hold it. It is therefore important to always advocate for peace, but arm the movement to defend itself against violence and if need be move through force instead.

    • @tada-kun982
      @tada-kun982 Год назад +16

      Whilst violence is at times a sad necessity, we must be careful not to embrace it lest all sense and reason be lost.

    • @watching7721
      @watching7721 Год назад +12

      You have to be careful with your violence though. The French Revolution, for example, lost itself in a violent revolutionary oligarchy. The violence that that pushed abolition to success was the American Civil War

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +146

    His soul goes marching on! Love your videos!

  • @sErgEantaEgis12
    @sErgEantaEgis12 Год назад +20

    You guys should do a one-shot on Calixa Lavallée, he was a French-Canadian musician who saw minstrel shows from the US South touring what was then Lower Canada, became fascinated by the US South and eventually visited and did a complete 180 degree turn on his views about the South and became an abolitionist, enlisting in the Union Army and he was wounded in the leg and discharged after Antietam. He later ended up writing Canada's national anthem.

  • @wolfofbs1607
    @wolfofbs1607 Год назад +37

    As a Wisconsinite, it makes me smile every time I see my state pop up in history.

  • @SirNerdTheThird5143
    @SirNerdTheThird5143 Год назад +161

    Fun fact:
    Harriet Tubman was born in the time of Jefferson and dies in the time when Reagan was born.

    • @mehmeh2255
      @mehmeh2255 Год назад +14

      she died in 1913?

    • @pabloni1117
      @pabloni1117 Год назад +58

      ​@@mehmeh2255 reagan was born in 1911. There was a period of time when both were alive

    • @ALLTHETIME-ALLTHETIME
      @ALLTHETIME-ALLTHETIME Год назад +54

      @@mehmeh2255 Harriet Tubman lived from 1822-1913, Jefferson died in 1826, and Regan was born in 1911, so like... kinda but barely

    • @l3ete1geuse
      @l3ete1geuse Год назад +18

      Dang, that's neat. I just looked it up and you're right. She was born 4 years before Jefferson died, and died when Reagan was 2.

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 Год назад +7

      @@ALLTHETIME-ALLTHETIME for the 1800 damn did she live for a long time

  • @ladymacbethofmtensk896
    @ladymacbethofmtensk896 Год назад +140

    You should do a series entirely on the Compromise of 1850, how a slaveowner President, Zachary Taylor attempted to force a crisis on the slavery issue, how he counted on the South's lack of leverage, how he died before he could play his gambit out, and how weaker men took over and immediately began making massive concessions so as to halt the crisis. Most importantly, it emboldened southern politicians to make ever louder threats of secession and civil war and led to ever more concessions that made civil war inevitable.

    • @xtoadsannom6704
      @xtoadsannom6704 Год назад +4

      What was the goal his gambit if he was a slaveowner ?

    • @ladymacbethofmtensk896
      @ladymacbethofmtensk896 Год назад +4

      @@xtoadsannom6704 There is the goal, and there is The Goal. The Goal can be reached only at the end of a chain of smaller goals, and unlike many of the Founding Fathers who owned slaves, who concentrated heavily on The Goal of ending slavery quickly, Taylor was aiming for a more modest accomplishment of curbing the institution's spread so others could chip away at it later, after he was gone.
      One thing that you need to remember is that the Founding Fathers who owned slaves could not actually free those slaves however much they wanted to, because they were deep in debt. To free the slaves, first the debts needed to be cleared, and then came the greater problem of what was to be done with the slaves once they were free.
      By 1850, the process of legal manumission had gotten much more complicated and difficult, so there were actually times that people would own slaves solely on paper, simply so that the slaves would be functionally free. If anything, we need to study Zachary Taylor more closely, because when a slaveowner was being criticized for being too aggressive against slavery, there has to be some eccentric dynamics in the slave/master relationship.

    • @Kaiserboo1871
      @Kaiserboo1871 Год назад

      @@ladymacbethofmtensk896 Interesting.
      So what was his plan then? What did he hope to accomplish by creating a crisis in 1850.

    • @ladymacbethofmtensk896
      @ladymacbethofmtensk896 Год назад

      @@Kaiserboo1871 You don't get it, do you? We can probably never really know, because Taylor died before he could play out that first gambit. But the point was that in 1850, something needed to be done about slavery, but the institution was too well entrenched in the South to make outright abolition possible. Slavery would have to be ended in stages. Ironically, Lincoln ended slavery in stages. First he promised not to interfere where it already existed. Then he turned the War into a war of emancipation. And later still, toward the end, he commenced enacting the Thirteenth Amendment, and the South was, by that point, so desperate, they were taking steps against slavery themselves.

    • @Kaiserboo1871
      @Kaiserboo1871 Год назад

      @@ladymacbethofmtensk896 So what was step 2 of his gambit.

  • @alexrudolph301
    @alexrudolph301 Год назад +27

    And bleeding Kansas still holds over 160 years later with the intense rivalry between the University of Missouri and Kansas University.

  • @TreeHairedGingerAle
    @TreeHairedGingerAle Год назад +25

    His soul goes marching on!

  • @KickstandOptional
    @KickstandOptional Год назад +29

    I've never awaited one of these episodes as eagerly as this one. Here's to Part 3.

  • @andrecarpenter2432
    @andrecarpenter2432 Год назад +37

    Unfortunately I feel like we need someone like him right now

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Год назад +3

      To do what?

    • @eotwkdp
      @eotwkdp Год назад

      @@sarasamaletdin4574probably wipe the board clean

    • @johnmacrae2006
      @johnmacrae2006 Год назад

      @@eotwkdp
      Meaning what?

    • @eotwkdp
      @eotwkdp Год назад

      @@johnmacrae2006 your own definition of just other chaotic horrible experience for all.

    • @johnmacrae2006
      @johnmacrae2006 Год назад

      @@eotwkdp Ya, that’s what we need.

  • @ravinraven6913
    @ravinraven6913 Год назад +68

    John Browns life is a life a sadness and heartache....I wonder if his losses propelled him into taking a firmer, stronger stance on abolition. Like a Antz life, where the female bee wanted to help the ant, but her husband(whatever) didn't but when she died he did everything he could to help. Because it was his loves passion and he too, had to see his partners wish come true.

    • @trla6505
      @trla6505 Год назад +1

      Interesting perspective,ñ

  • @charlieputzel7735
    @charlieputzel7735 Год назад +28

    Alright, some minor stuff I'm sure you'll discuss in the lies episode, but I'll say something anyways. California wasn't admitted to balance out Texas, that was Iowa. California actually threw off the balance, hence why it's request for admission caused the crisis in 1850. Ultimately the balance was preserved by a gentleman's agreement to send one pro slave and one pro free senator. The actual main parts of the compromise of 1850 were 1) California comes in as a free state (though with the earlier mentioned agreement) 2) The slave trade (but not slavery itself) would be banned in D.C. 3) Texas would be reduced in size, and along with the non-California sections of the Mexican cessation shall become the New Mexico and Utah territories, which allow slavery, and 4) the fugitive slave act.
    Also, territories aren't states. New Mexico and Utah getting non-voting representatives is just what territories get, it's not really a part of the compromise, same with Kansas and Nebraska. Now, territories becoming organized is a step towards statehood, but it's important to make these distinctions in talking about bleeding Kansas because the whole crisis was tied up in the statehood process, as I no doubt imagine you'll have to discuss when you get to the Lecompton constitution.

  • @CaraTheStrange
    @CaraTheStrange Год назад +21

    Love how Fredric Douglas’s hair is drawn

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Год назад +14

      Both of these men had _really_ good hair.

    • @erraticonteuse
      @erraticonteuse Год назад +8

      Frederick Douglass looked like a lion and I have had a crush on him for ages.

    • @CaraTheStrange
      @CaraTheStrange Год назад +7

      @@erraticonteuse
      Totally understandable, he was an attractive man. Also of course personality plays a huge role in attractiveness and being who he is clearly checks the personality box.

    • @MichaelCasanovaMusic
      @MichaelCasanovaMusic Год назад +5

      @@CaraTheStrange also, fun fact
      Frederick Douglass was the most photographed man of the 19th century

    • @CaraTheStrange
      @CaraTheStrange Год назад +2

      @@MichaelCasanovaMusic
      That certainly is a fun fact. Such magnificence deserves to be photographed as much as possible

  • @chasemcnab7610
    @chasemcnab7610 Год назад +61

    Seems to me it’s less a question of when the abolitionists should have turned to violence but when; they were up against fanatical racists who wanted to maintain slavery even if that meant lying, cheating, threatening, and straight-up doing violence against anyone that opposed their barbarity. I can see how a system so entrenched in society as slavery was would be a hard thing to phase out, but the civil war was started by the south, and all their actions made it abundantly clear they were never gonna give up slavery without a fight. Then again, violence should be avoided as a last resort, the corpses of Americans piled in the fields were the realization of the worst fears of those that advocated a peaceful end to slavery, but the question of when you should stop trying to use peaceful means to change society is a far more difficult one, and often it seems, the answer seems only clear in hindsight.

    • @CaptainSully101
      @CaptainSully101 Год назад

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." The South's lying, cheating and violence made a peaceful end of slavery impossible.

  • @Poormrworry
    @Poormrworry Год назад +20

    fugitive slave act also made it illegal for slave owners to sell their slaves without permission from their state government. so if say a wealthy northerner bought out an entire plantation to free its slaves and move them north (which was a thing that happened) now the owner was not allowed to sell the slaves.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Год назад

      What this free market

    • @Poormrworry
      @Poormrworry Год назад +3

      @@carkawalakhatulistiwa we weren’t capitalists yet

    • @physetermacrocephalus2209
      @physetermacrocephalus2209 Год назад +1

      @@Poormrworry
      By that definition we have never been capitalist. You can still have a free market and be considered a capitalist society even with regulation. Only hyper capitalists will disagree

  • @thehungrylittlenihilist
    @thehungrylittlenihilist Год назад +38

    It's always "states rights" until the Northern States want to protect freed slaves.

    • @alexandersturnn4530
      @alexandersturnn4530 Год назад +4

      Exactly. The South only cried "States Rights!" as long as those rights favored them and Slavery.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Год назад +9

      Don't even take that filth seriously.

  • @maxkogler1830
    @maxkogler1830 Год назад +55

    I like this man more with every episode.

  • @brendan5825
    @brendan5825 Год назад +15

    Western Mass Native here, love seeing some history on my area! Keep it up you guys rock!

    • @brendan5825
      @brendan5825 Год назад

      Would it be possible to get a Video on Shay's Rebellion?

  • @siroutlaw7466
    @siroutlaw7466 Год назад +10

    5:30 Keep in mind, $1,000 from 1850 to today’s value is worth $38,355.13. That’s messed up

  • @_ducjk
    @_ducjk Год назад +67

    I don’t want to nitpick on this, but it’s a little weird that you chose bolt-action rifles instead of more era-accurate repeaters or breach loaders. I get it’s easier for the animators, but i wouldn’t expect Mauser bolt-actions in 1840s America

    • @robertjarman3703
      @robertjarman3703 Год назад +6

      Bolt actions did exist, it is not too crazy for them to have bought Dreyser needle guns.

    • @_ducjk
      @_ducjk Год назад +16

      @@robertjarman3703 saying something did exist doesn’t mean it was common. also, there’s no evidence needle guns were used outside of europe or were very widespread until after the events in this series

    • @wasneeplus
      @wasneeplus Год назад +3

      I don't even know what any of that means. How big is the chance that the animator doesn't either?

    • @_ducjk
      @_ducjk Год назад +1

      @@wasneeplus good point!! not everyone knows everything about everything, but history channels are history channels

    • @unknownuser3926
      @unknownuser3926 Год назад +1

      I think they're supposed to be Krag Jorgensen rifles, which is even more weird. Idk why they didn't just doodle a quick percussion rifle instead

  • @l3ete1geuse
    @l3ete1geuse Год назад +66

    We have to be willing to fight for what is right, even if it costs us our lives. Because very often, that's the only way things will change.

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 Год назад +1

      Those who believe this and their goal is self-righteous are rarely ever seen as the good guys

    • @l3ete1geuse
      @l3ete1geuse Год назад

      @Pain Ville gaming "their" and "good".

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 Год назад

      @@l3ete1geuse google traduation is a bitch

    • @l3ete1geuse
      @l3ete1geuse Год назад

      @@painvillegaming4119 Is it a requirement for ill informed people to be bad at grammar and spelling?

    • @biggestboofer
      @biggestboofer Год назад +2

      Ok but every person is willing to fight for something think they are fighting for what is right. Who are you to tell everyone else what is right or wrong.

  • @ellipse147
    @ellipse147 Год назад +29

    I am very surprised a millionaire started an experiment like that. Who was the millionaire?

    • @celston51
      @celston51 Год назад +32

      Gerrit Smith. His story ends tragically and is a spoiler for the Harpers Ferry raid in the next episode...

  • @huntersartwell8028
    @huntersartwell8028 Год назад +7

    If you ever visit North Elba NY AKA Lake Placid NY. Visit John Brown's farm, his homestead, grave, and beautiful trails throughout the woods and grasslands. Full experience is May to October. There is a shaving cup made from the gallows that John was hung on (spoiler)

  • @jankusthegreat9233
    @jankusthegreat9233 Год назад +26

    Frederick Douglas had amazing hair

  • @fakechemicals
    @fakechemicals Год назад +9

    The Northern states refusal to comply with the fugitive slave law is a grievance justification the Southern state bring up in their various articles of secession. When modern "historians" tell you about "states rights" more often than not this is one of the rights that are being directly cited. The Southern states believed their right to have slaves was being denied by Northern states refusing to help them keep their slaves.

    • @vehx9316
      @vehx9316 Год назад +7

      So yeah right in the end it was still slavery.

  • @awesomedude00001
    @awesomedude00001 Год назад +52

    Most based human being ive never heard of.

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Год назад +2

      Eh, I put him on the same podium as Jean Paul Jones, Ida Lewis, and that absolute unit that was the Tank Man of Tiananmen Square, who couldn't even be bothered to put down his groceries before winning a staring contest with a tank platoon.

    • @Handles-Suck-YouTube
      @Handles-Suck-YouTube Год назад +1

      ​@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing "What are you gonna do, run me over? Your tank will break before I do."

  • @unovasfinest2623
    @unovasfinest2623 Год назад +8

    "We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed"
    MLK

  • @Bazookatone1
    @Bazookatone1 Год назад +18

    "Surrounding the polling places with armed men and threatened the lives of election officials", thank goodness nothing like that could EVER hapen today!

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... Год назад +14

    History, critical thinking and media literacy have never been more important.
    Thank you for teaching about complex issues in a simple, fun and easily digestible format.

    • @aformofmatter8913
      @aformofmatter8913 Год назад

      Doesn't seem very complex to me
      Slavery is evil, those who practice it are evil, & evil can only be purged through fire & guns
      Any fools who try negotiating with evil only concede ground & make evil stronger -- there is no compromising with injustice

  • @thetruerift
    @thetruerift Год назад +463

    It is an ongoing weakness on the left that we believe every problem can be solved without violence. The sad reality is that no major social change has ever happened without violence or the threat there-of. Even Gandhi was successful mostly because the alternative was a general revolt/revolution on the Indian sub-continent.

    • @giorgos6099
      @giorgos6099 Год назад +1

      Well violence to establish a communist utopia isn't exactly worth fighting for. History proves this.

    • @foam3132
      @foam3132 Год назад +56

      It's so sad, but so true. At times, you've gotta pick violence as a means to defend yourself. However, you should never be the aggressor

    • @auraaetherbladesigma6939
      @auraaetherbladesigma6939 Год назад +11

      @@foam3132 facts

    • @RougherFluffer
      @RougherFluffer Год назад +65

      It's not accidental that we've come by the belief that violence by the masses is never justified for any reason, yet we are met with violence in countless forms from the state and corporations and expected to take it in stride.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Год назад +16

      I mean, recent history ahows that revolution violence IS possible. Remember all those Color revolutions that toppled autocratic governments in the 1980's and 1990's?

  • @bananapanda9805
    @bananapanda9805 Год назад +16

    I demand to see John Brown’s distinctive haircut and beard!

  • @Kaiyanwang82
    @Kaiyanwang82 7 месяцев назад +5

    "States rights to do WHAT?"

  • @bill2178
    @bill2178 Год назад +42

    extra history you guys are amazing always top tier videos and hilarious as well

  • @jusuferg9945
    @jusuferg9945 Год назад +27

    Still a hero to me. ❤

  • @anonymousnarwhal4323
    @anonymousnarwhal4323 Год назад +5

    Wow, I've lived in the Adirondacks my whole life and I'm so happy that I know the history of North Elba now! I had never heard about that before and I'm thrilled to learn my area was a part of John Brown's life ✊

    • @HamSaladtv
      @HamSaladtv 11 месяцев назад +1

      Visit the farm!

  • @mrgopnik5964
    @mrgopnik5964 Год назад +5

    The most ironic part is that Kansas doesn’t even have suitable climate for slave plantations

  • @dylanb265
    @dylanb265 Год назад +4

    His truth goes marching on

  • @ReySchultz121
    @ReySchultz121 Год назад +7

    History's biggest gigachad.

  • @falseprofit9801
    @falseprofit9801 Год назад +5

    7:56 Ah yes. Nothing says “our faction is the legitimate majority” like milling around an election site with weapons on full display.

  • @mostlycusimbored
    @mostlycusimbored Год назад +32

    This and US labor history is something we should really spotlight more and more.

  • @erichall7109
    @erichall7109 Год назад +17

    Bro this series is amazing keep it up guys 😁👍

  • @Lucasp110
    @Lucasp110 Год назад +14

    "oh he was a radical abolitionist o lord a terrorist"
    You cant be extreme enough about the evil of slavery

    • @applesyrupgaming
      @applesyrupgaming Год назад

      terrorist by technical definition, though undeniably a good dude

  • @smkfet
    @smkfet Год назад +6

    "23 minutes ago"
    I have waited LONG ENOUGH

  • @KingofAwesomness14
    @KingofAwesomness14 Год назад +8

    the best kind of violence, violence that inspires good change in society!

  • @AnimarchyHistory
    @AnimarchyHistory Год назад +18

    Massacre? I'm sorry, you mispronounced "His righteous sentence"

  • @KoreaMojo
    @KoreaMojo Год назад +1

    I've always loved him and this just makes me love him more. Argue with his methods if you want but his clarity and follow through is just right. We should all be about it like him instead of talking about it like most.

  • @therearenoshortcuts9868
    @therearenoshortcuts9868 Год назад +10

    when you are about to be punished for something you didn't do
    and there is nothing you can do to stop the punishment
    you should do something to earn the punishment

  • @chadsummerchild1120
    @chadsummerchild1120 Год назад +10

    This series has been Awesome! Thanks.

  • @alex123castro
    @alex123castro Год назад +3

    I live in Springfield Mass and never knew this history. So interesting!

  • @TroyEagan
    @TroyEagan Год назад +5

    Watching this directly after "our changing climate"s new video has me feeling a certain kind of way

  • @MasterShake9000
    @MasterShake9000 Год назад +24

    The bit about Nebraska being "safe" from becoming a slave vote due to being next to Iowa...as someone who's family is from Nebraska, it's depressing to see how many modern day Nebraskans probably regret that, based on their attitudes on and towards race.
    We won the war but lost the battle against Southern bigotry and racism.

    • @applesyrupgaming
      @applesyrupgaming Год назад

      ironically northern virginia is like the opposite of the racism of the south today. It's got enough people to turn VA purple

    • @johnmacrae2006
      @johnmacrae2006 Год назад

      @MasterShake9000
      Lol, most anti slavery activists in the 1850’s were more bigoted than your average current-day Nebraskan.

  • @sarcasticsuperjerk18
    @sarcasticsuperjerk18 Год назад +75

    It’s almost baffling people would see a man who, despite struggling in the later years of his life, would still give compassion and protection to those not even people of his own ideals would AND set out to protect his sons from actual tyranny, as a terrorist. He's a true American hero, for as violent as his approach was.

    • @MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq
      @MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq Год назад

      It's because there's been evil people that have used the same tactics in the past, and as such, a lot of people have problem seeing how can they be used for good. Take Mao Tse Tung for example, who used similar tactics and in the end he commited genocide and massacres against his own people.

    • @sarcasticsuperjerk18
      @sarcasticsuperjerk18 Год назад +2

      @@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq I _did_ say almost baffling.

    • @MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq
      @MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq Год назад +1

      @@sarcasticsuperjerk18 i know, but i'm just explaining that is normal for people to associate those tactics with being evil.

    • @sarcasticsuperjerk18
      @sarcasticsuperjerk18 Год назад +1

      @@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq That was rhetorical, sorry if that sounded rude or anything 😭

  • @OGJessie
    @OGJessie 7 месяцев назад +4

    you sir have the pass

  • @SlimyJamie
    @SlimyJamie Год назад +4

    I love the way you explain history, its fun and it has taught me a lot about history

  • @gallantcavalier3306
    @gallantcavalier3306 Год назад +8

    Will you mention the U.S Army’s involvement in Bleeding Kansas and include a cameo by Lieutenant J.E.B Stuart of the U.S Cavalry?

  • @simeonmeier6984
    @simeonmeier6984 Год назад +1

    Great series as always guys. I’d like to put in a request for a series on the Texas war for independence. As a Texan, I’d love to hear y’all’s commentary on the events

  • @JJadx
    @JJadx Год назад +2

    The art's next level in this one. nice.

  • @ag757
    @ag757 6 месяцев назад +1

    Your add reads are superb.

  • @zackakai5173
    @zackakai5173 Год назад +13

    4:31 the fact that sitting members of Congress drew firearms on each other in a debate over the "right" to enslave a human being goes a long way toward explaining how ass-backward such a despicably large percentage of our population remains to this day. Thankfully the younger generations of Americans seem to be rapidly changing that (something I attribute to the mainstream adoption of the internet and the decoupling of social awareness from geographic region or population density), but the fact that it's taken over a century and a half since the end of the American Civil War to even get this far is fucking disgusting.

  • @stewartgames6697
    @stewartgames6697 Год назад +11

    Must be nice to have an House of Representatives that isn't capped since 1929.

    • @jonnunn4196
      @jonnunn4196 Год назад +1

      Note that the 1911 Act set the size at 433 pending admission of Arizona and New Mexico at one each after which it hit 435. The 1929 cap was because the 1921 Congress deadlocked and didn't reapportion at all. (States kept the same number of seats in the 1920s as they had in the 1910s.)

  • @coolinjam8098
    @coolinjam8098 Год назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @minieyke
    @minieyke Год назад +4

    Seeing a history of federal congress being hung over issues that the majority of citizens do not benefit from or are in agreement regarding makes me mad for some reason

  • @juliancoenen4917
    @juliancoenen4917 Год назад +8

    YOU GUYS ARE PERFECT

  • @jamesgordon364
    @jamesgordon364 Год назад +19

    We need more people who are willing to fight for a better world 🌎 .

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 Год назад

      Does the phrase not become what you swore to destroy not existed ?

  • @laurencelikestopgun
    @laurencelikestopgun Год назад +1

    ".....But his soul keeps marching on!"

  • @ghostleemann955
    @ghostleemann955 Год назад +12

    he gets the world record for awesomeness

  • @shahsaeed3697
    @shahsaeed3697 Год назад +12

    Epitome of fighting the good fight

  • @SirAroace
    @SirAroace Год назад +12

    peaceful revolution is preferable but sadly violent revolution is often necessary.

  • @timmystitch55
    @timmystitch55 5 месяцев назад +1

    8:50 they needed dad

  • @mrkartoffel7418
    @mrkartoffel7418 Год назад +1

    You know what could be a interesting one of the battle of civitate l. Essentially Norman’s in Italy meaning a battle in which they heavily outnumbered and the Swabian last stand.

  • @yj9032
    @yj9032 Год назад +1

    You deserve all the love in the world

  • @comradepolarbear6920
    @comradepolarbear6920 Год назад +1

    One tiny mistake in the video are the bolt action rifles. Bolt action rifles, if I correctly recall, were not a thing till the 1880s

  • @ethanengelking2492
    @ethanengelking2492 Год назад +4

    Yes, bath in the attention Wisconsin, bath in it

  • @Fenrisson
    @Fenrisson Год назад +1

    Brown's my man.

  • @tyrian_baal
    @tyrian_baal Год назад +5

    8:55 why do they have bolt action rifles lol

    • @robertjarman3703
      @robertjarman3703 Год назад

      Not impossible, they were invented decades before, and the Prussian army were already using them quite well, but the US didn't have many.

  • @cheshirejack0797
    @cheshirejack0797 Год назад +5

    Franklin Pierce is the only president from my home state and this just makes me think, wow he's absolutely a terrible person and president

    • @moviefan005
      @moviefan005 Год назад

      He was a drunkard.

    • @geoffreyherrick298
      @geoffreyherrick298 Год назад

      He mooted the concept of state rights and became so hated the Democrats refused to nominate him again. I know he's beloved in New Hampshire but I'm kinda embarrassed about him.

    • @ichthys4396
      @ichthys4396 Год назад

      He was one of the US's worst presidents but it's a little understandable. Almost immediately before taking office, he watched his 11-year-son, Benjamin get decapitated in a train accident. His other two sons had already died a few years prior. His wife grew to resent him, because she blamed him for Benjamin's death. He drank himself into a stupor and it is doubtful he was ever sober during his presidency.

  • @phasm42
    @phasm42 Год назад +30

    Conservatism: literally not a single time on the right side of history.

    • @username88094
      @username88094 Год назад +3

      Weird that those that want to stop progress and acceptance end up being the assholes right?

    • @dillon8992
      @dillon8992 Год назад +1

      That's a dumb take. Societies progress for the bad aswell.

    • @phasm42
      @phasm42 Год назад +2

      @@dillon8992 So let's hear it: name a single time conservatism has been on the right side of history.

    • @phasm42
      @phasm42 Год назад +1

      @@dillon8992 as expected, crickets 🙄

    • @Borderose
      @Borderose 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@phasm42Brazil.
      Should have stayed an empire.

  • @szariq7338
    @szariq7338 Год назад +1

    Dear Extra History Team,
    I'd like to present you the historical topic, that for me is personal, even more so for my grandpa. Actions oriented around this topic have shaped his mind so much, that he won't be able to change most of his habits even at the death's doorstep. Due to the vulnerability of it I won't share the details.
    This topic is "Cursed soldiers" (also known as "unbreakable").
    It is a story of how Soviet authorities have hunted down the remnants of Polish Home Army during the many years following the end of World War 2.
    Methods of torture used by the Soviets lets allows me compare them to Gestapo, but worse.
    After tortures and executions many victims are still left unfound as they were buried in unmarked graves, including my forefather.
    Additionally to be sentenced to be shot you didn't even need to raise a hand against anyone, even medics weren't spared (here I mention Danuta Siedzikówna, alias "Inka").
    Upper estimates say, that up to 180 thousand could have waged a private war against the system. For the most resilient this nightmare has lasted until 1963.
    With free Poland now we annually acknowledge their sacrifice every 1st of March.
    I don't expect big series out of it, but I wish you become more interested in it.
    Yours sincerely,
    You see my nick

  • @marloyorkrodriguez9975
    @marloyorkrodriguez9975 Год назад +4

    His soul is marching on!

  • @Texanprime
    @Texanprime Год назад +17

    Please do Texas revolution please extra history