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The South treated their slaves like the Kim Family treats North Koreans, worse in some ways given the life expectancy. Who would say that the people of North Korea lack a right to revolution?
I have an request. Can you Skanderbeg also known as athlete of Christ pls? He is a great warrior who we don’t talk much about him and he defended Europe from Ottomans
"His zeal in the cause of my race was far greater than mine - it was as the burning sun to my taper light - mine was bounded by time, his stretched away to the boundless shores of eternity. I could live for the slave, but he could die for him." From Frederick Douglas's Harper's Ferry address in 1881.
It’s even worse than that. According to the law, legal officials involved got paid MORE if the person in question was determined to be an escaped slave than if they were determined to be a free person. There was literally a financial reason to side with the slavers…
No matter how bad the acts of Bleeding Kansas were, they paled in comparison to the inhuman horrors of everyday slavery. There are few acts of violence as awful as slavery ever was as I'd consider enslavement (and all that came with it) to be one of the worst acts imaginable.
Or people should have saw the horror of the Civil War when Bleeding Kansas occurred and should have made a more thoughtful and forceful debate whether slavery should be ban
@whm_w8833 to be fair, slavery was primarily the reason for all the Bloody KS. But it was a whirlwind of alot of chaos in KS at the time. Cattle drives, "Frontier Troubles (predators, lack of supplies, Hostile indigenous persons, lack of medical attention)" , the Kansas Nebraska act was kinda just the detonator on a pile of c4 that was already getting big because "Hey guys, I Found Free Land over here"
As a Kansan myself I'm very excited to learn more about the period of Bleeding Kansas, because it was tragically glossed over in my school when we learned about the civil war. Thank you EH for teaching what schools won't.
Another fellow Kansan, I've always liked the story of Henry Beecher since a junior high history teacher taught it to us about 40 years ago. Henry was a pastor in New York city and a very avid abolitionist (his sister was the famous abolitionist author Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of Uncle Tom's Cabin). Henry raised money to send members of his congregation to Kansas to help sway it to be a free state. They settled here and founded the town of Wabaunsee (about 10 miles east of Manhattan). What violence broke out in Kansas he raised money to send them a shipment of Sharps rifles. To prevent them from being seized by the border ruffians they were shipped in crates labeled "Books and Bibles". Those rifles became known as Beecher's Bibles.
Part of the reason schools don't is that its a mess and hard to explain in the time you have in a school setting. The dynamic of all the people coming from out of state to fight for their opinion, and how much of it was not actually "bloody" (at least not many actual lives lost) complicates how to articulate the scenario.
A lot of history from the Civil War and Reconstruction has been glossed over. It’s sad that attempts to cover these eras have been derided as CRT or “woke” when it’s simply American history.
Extra History is teaching a South African in a village in South Africa in the Northern Province about a 19th Century American radical abolitionist,thank you ❤️
What irony, since the peaceful end of Apartheid was considered so miraculous to the 20th century. The violent revolution that should have come in America, and the peaceful reconciliation that wasn't expected to come in South Africa.
Well, the prayer says "God is my shepherd", and sometimes, to be a good shepherd, it is necessary to kill the wolves that threaten the peace of the flock.
@Content_enjoyer if the "intervention" is "some people will be their rights and freedom denied because of an arbitrary belief", than the game MUST be broken by the players, developers be damned.
On this instance i remember famous song of django unchained from john legend "Now I am not afraid to do the Lord's work You say vengeance is his but Imma do it first I'm gonna handle my business in the name of the Law, mmh Now if he made you cry oh I gotta know If he's not ready to die, he best prepare for it My judgment's divine I'll tell you who you can call You can call You better call the police Call the coroner"
3:33 Learning what we did in the first episode, that practically happened. Witnessing slavery as a child and the beatings people his age were given simply because they were enslaved definitely had that kind of impact on him.
While I agree that he was not untouched by slavery, I disagree. The fact is he could walk home and had his freedom. Also he was not phisically harmed unlike the other boy. Witnessing these injustice is traumatizing but it is not as traumatizing as actually surviving them.
@@mariuskaesser Trauma isn't a competition bro- just because somebody's deep, scarring wound isn't "as bad" as somebody else's doesn't mean there isn't common ground between the two.
Two points that I’m glad they’re drawing attention to. 1. John was right that emancipation by peaceful means was impossible. 2. As violent as John got it wasn’t anything more that the other side had done or was doing.
Unfortunately, the institutional tension between free and slave states (which had been brewing for a long time, and over other issues) made peaceful abolition impossible in the US
@@jaohonaxa I dont see what you're basing that on. part of the reason the Fire Eaters were so paranoid was their awareness that economic and social trends were working against them.
Violence is not a solution to be trotted out at the first inconvenience, but there are times when violence is the correct and possibly the only viable solution.
@Pain Ville gaming A lot of people would also lack the moral courage to take that necessary step to enact controlled violence when necessary And they would sit on the sidelines indefinitely while human suffering continues unabated.
Peaceful revolution is only possible when the threat of violent revolution is clear, imminent of promise a greater disruption to established power structures as a peaceful one would.
So when I was a kid in school we'd sing 'John brown's baby' to the tune of 'John brown's body' it was a stupid little song and dance where we'd omit a word and replace it with a gesture. We were NEVER taught the actual words, or anything about the actual man. I remember being absolutely incensed when I found out that rather than a touching ballad of a radical hero we were taught a nonsense baby song. Finding out how many of his children died of disease only makes the whole thing worse. It's not just trying to erase the real man it's also a cruel insult.
What makes this awesome, is that in my history class we are right now learning about the Civil War and this video suddenly came up in my recommendation. Thanks for teaching me, what I needed to know.
If at any point you develop the opinion that General Ulysses S Grant was a simple minded commander who could only fight with vast numerical superiority to simply brute force his way through his opponents, as most school issued history books coverage focuses on his Appomattox Campaign, I would recommend reading up on his Mississippi River campaign (most notably the campaign to take Vicksburg) as this is most often summarized in footnotes. Along with Stonewall Jackson’s victory in Shenandoah Valley, some of Grant’s best work in the Civil War are tirelessly dissected in war colleges around the world to this day as key features of the maneuvers remain relevant to modern warfare after all this time.
I love this retelling of his story, I have a great admiration for this man and the work that he did. It's very easy to judge his violence from the future with no exacting knowledge of his struggles throughout his life and name him murderer. Brave, committed and righteous. Like deployed 👍
Sometimes I think we as a modern audience fail to appreciate how radical Brown's attitude was. Everything from openly calling for the death of slave owners (if need be), to organizing a cosmopolitan militia was unheard of in the 1850s. Dude embodied every fear that a slave owner had and he owned it so hard.
Rules and Regulations are written with blood, as is social reform. Very few major changes in society happened without there being violence because violence, sadly, is often the only thing that makes people sit up and take notice. Not to say protests and strikes have not, but the greatest changes in society only occurred after copious amounts of blood were shed. I wish it weren’t so, god do I wish it weren’t so.
The blood is only spilled though when those who resist change in the end take to weapons to defend the status quo. A revolution is seldom violent until the counter-revolution answers with violence. Great social change can happen though when there is enough people who refuse to help defend system of oppression, but that peace is only relative to capital means of the defenders who almost inevitably will take to weapons to hold it. It is therefore important to always advocate for peace, but arm the movement to defend itself against violence and if need be move through force instead.
You have to be careful with your violence though. The French Revolution, for example, lost itself in a violent revolutionary oligarchy. The violence that that pushed abolition to success was the American Civil War
You guys should do a one-shot on Calixa Lavallée, he was a French-Canadian musician who saw minstrel shows from the US South touring what was then Lower Canada, became fascinated by the US South and eventually visited and did a complete 180 degree turn on his views about the South and became an abolitionist, enlisting in the Union Army and he was wounded in the leg and discharged after Antietam. He later ended up writing Canada's national anthem.
You should do a series entirely on the Compromise of 1850, how a slaveowner President, Zachary Taylor attempted to force a crisis on the slavery issue, how he counted on the South's lack of leverage, how he died before he could play his gambit out, and how weaker men took over and immediately began making massive concessions so as to halt the crisis. Most importantly, it emboldened southern politicians to make ever louder threats of secession and civil war and led to ever more concessions that made civil war inevitable.
@@xtoadsannom6704 There is the goal, and there is The Goal. The Goal can be reached only at the end of a chain of smaller goals, and unlike many of the Founding Fathers who owned slaves, who concentrated heavily on The Goal of ending slavery quickly, Taylor was aiming for a more modest accomplishment of curbing the institution's spread so others could chip away at it later, after he was gone. One thing that you need to remember is that the Founding Fathers who owned slaves could not actually free those slaves however much they wanted to, because they were deep in debt. To free the slaves, first the debts needed to be cleared, and then came the greater problem of what was to be done with the slaves once they were free. By 1850, the process of legal manumission had gotten much more complicated and difficult, so there were actually times that people would own slaves solely on paper, simply so that the slaves would be functionally free. If anything, we need to study Zachary Taylor more closely, because when a slaveowner was being criticized for being too aggressive against slavery, there has to be some eccentric dynamics in the slave/master relationship.
@@Kaiserboo1871 You don't get it, do you? We can probably never really know, because Taylor died before he could play out that first gambit. But the point was that in 1850, something needed to be done about slavery, but the institution was too well entrenched in the South to make outright abolition possible. Slavery would have to be ended in stages. Ironically, Lincoln ended slavery in stages. First he promised not to interfere where it already existed. Then he turned the War into a war of emancipation. And later still, toward the end, he commenced enacting the Thirteenth Amendment, and the South was, by that point, so desperate, they were taking steps against slavery themselves.
@@erraticonteuse Totally understandable, he was an attractive man. Also of course personality plays a huge role in attractiveness and being who he is clearly checks the personality box.
fugitive slave act also made it illegal for slave owners to sell their slaves without permission from their state government. so if say a wealthy northerner bought out an entire plantation to free its slaves and move them north (which was a thing that happened) now the owner was not allowed to sell the slaves.
@@Poormrworry By that definition we have never been capitalist. You can still have a free market and be considered a capitalist society even with regulation. Only hyper capitalists will disagree
Alright, some minor stuff I'm sure you'll discuss in the lies episode, but I'll say something anyways. California wasn't admitted to balance out Texas, that was Iowa. California actually threw off the balance, hence why it's request for admission caused the crisis in 1850. Ultimately the balance was preserved by a gentleman's agreement to send one pro slave and one pro free senator. The actual main parts of the compromise of 1850 were 1) California comes in as a free state (though with the earlier mentioned agreement) 2) The slave trade (but not slavery itself) would be banned in D.C. 3) Texas would be reduced in size, and along with the non-California sections of the Mexican cessation shall become the New Mexico and Utah territories, which allow slavery, and 4) the fugitive slave act. Also, territories aren't states. New Mexico and Utah getting non-voting representatives is just what territories get, it's not really a part of the compromise, same with Kansas and Nebraska. Now, territories becoming organized is a step towards statehood, but it's important to make these distinctions in talking about bleeding Kansas because the whole crisis was tied up in the statehood process, as I no doubt imagine you'll have to discuss when you get to the Lecompton constitution.
Seems to me it’s less a question of when the abolitionists should have turned to violence but when; they were up against fanatical racists who wanted to maintain slavery even if that meant lying, cheating, threatening, and straight-up doing violence against anyone that opposed their barbarity. I can see how a system so entrenched in society as slavery was would be a hard thing to phase out, but the civil war was started by the south, and all their actions made it abundantly clear they were never gonna give up slavery without a fight. Then again, violence should be avoided as a last resort, the corpses of Americans piled in the fields were the realization of the worst fears of those that advocated a peaceful end to slavery, but the question of when you should stop trying to use peaceful means to change society is a far more difficult one, and often it seems, the answer seems only clear in hindsight.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." The South's lying, cheating and violence made a peaceful end of slavery impossible.
John Browns life is a life a sadness and heartache....I wonder if his losses propelled him into taking a firmer, stronger stance on abolition. Like a Antz life, where the female bee wanted to help the ant, but her husband(whatever) didn't but when she died he did everything he could to help. Because it was his loves passion and he too, had to see his partners wish come true.
I don’t want to nitpick on this, but it’s a little weird that you chose bolt-action rifles instead of more era-accurate repeaters or breach loaders. I get it’s easier for the animators, but i wouldn’t expect Mauser bolt-actions in 1840s America
@@robertjarman3703 saying something did exist doesn’t mean it was common. also, there’s no evidence needle guns were used outside of europe or were very widespread until after the events in this series
If you ever visit North Elba NY AKA Lake Placid NY. Visit John Brown's farm, his homestead, grave, and beautiful trails throughout the woods and grasslands. Full experience is May to October. There is a shaving cup made from the gallows that John was hung on (spoiler)
Eh, I put him on the same podium as Jean Paul Jones, Ida Lewis, and that absolute unit that was the Tank Man of Tiananmen Square, who couldn't even be bothered to put down his groceries before winning a staring contest with a tank platoon.
The Northern states refusal to comply with the fugitive slave law is a grievance justification the Southern state bring up in their various articles of secession. When modern "historians" tell you about "states rights" more often than not this is one of the rights that are being directly cited. The Southern states believed their right to have slaves was being denied by Northern states refusing to help them keep their slaves.
Ok but every person is willing to fight for something think they are fighting for what is right. Who are you to tell everyone else what is right or wrong.
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court overturned that decision ^^' But what happened a lot was that even if people were guilty of rescuing slaves, juries would find them non-guilty at their trials ^^
when you are about to be punished for something you didn't do and there is nothing you can do to stop the punishment you should do something to earn the punishment
Wow, I've lived in the Adirondacks my whole life and I'm so happy that I know the history of North Elba now! I had never heard about that before and I'm thrilled to learn my area was a part of John Brown's life ✊
History, critical thinking and media literacy have never been more important. Thank you for teaching about complex issues in a simple, fun and easily digestible format.
Doesn't seem very complex to me Slavery is evil, those who practice it are evil, & evil can only be purged through fire & guns Any fools who try negotiating with evil only concede ground & make evil stronger -- there is no compromising with injustice
I've always loved him and this just makes me love him more. Argue with his methods if you want but his clarity and follow through is just right. We should all be about it like him instead of talking about it like most.
"Surrounding the polling places with armed men and threatened the lives of election officials", thank goodness nothing like that could EVER hapen today!
4:31 the fact that sitting members of Congress drew firearms on each other in a debate over the "right" to enslave a human being goes a long way toward explaining how ass-backward such a despicably large percentage of our population remains to this day. Thankfully the younger generations of Americans seem to be rapidly changing that (something I attribute to the mainstream adoption of the internet and the decoupling of social awareness from geographic region or population density), but the fact that it's taken over a century and a half since the end of the American Civil War to even get this far is fucking disgusting.
The bit about Nebraska being "safe" from becoming a slave vote due to being next to Iowa...as someone who's family is from Nebraska, it's depressing to see how many modern day Nebraskans probably regret that, based on their attitudes on and towards race. We won the war but lost the battle against Southern bigotry and racism.
It is an ongoing weakness on the left that we believe every problem can be solved without violence. The sad reality is that no major social change has ever happened without violence or the threat there-of. Even Gandhi was successful mostly because the alternative was a general revolt/revolution on the Indian sub-continent.
It's not accidental that we've come by the belief that violence by the masses is never justified for any reason, yet we are met with violence in countless forms from the state and corporations and expected to take it in stride.
I mean, recent history ahows that revolution violence IS possible. Remember all those Color revolutions that toppled autocratic governments in the 1980's and 1990's?
Great series as always guys. I’d like to put in a request for a series on the Texas war for independence. As a Texan, I’d love to hear y’all’s commentary on the events
Seeing a history of federal congress being hung over issues that the majority of citizens do not benefit from or are in agreement regarding makes me mad for some reason
10:48 ok i get this channel is highly intertwined with gaming (was more in the past but shh) but i still was NOT expecting fucking *_Peppino Spaghetti_* to appear in an ad break for a _history_ channel.
You know what could be a interesting one of the battle of civitate l. Essentially Norman’s in Italy meaning a battle in which they heavily outnumbered and the Swabian last stand.
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Please do Texas revolution please extra history
Last time I was this early Harper's Ferry was intact
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The South treated their slaves like the Kim Family treats North Koreans, worse in some ways given the life expectancy. Who would say that the people of North Korea lack a right to revolution?
I have an request. Can you Skanderbeg also known as athlete of Christ pls? He is a great warrior who we don’t talk much about him and he defended Europe from Ottomans
"His zeal in the cause of my race was far greater than mine - it was as the burning sun to my taper light - mine was bounded by time, his stretched away to the boundless shores of eternity. I could live for the slave, but he could die for him." From Frederick Douglas's Harper's Ferry address in 1881.
That quote is an absolute banger
@@shadowrain1024 Frederick Douglas has a lot of bangers tbh
I just finished Up From Slavery by Booker T Washington on Kindle. It ended before this.
Jesus christ, Fredrick Douglass was one of the greatest orators of all time.
@@youronlyfriend933 Frederick Douglas was a banger tbh
Allowing slavers to capture ‘runaway slaves’ simply by verbal claims? Man I can’t see this being abused in any way.
Yeah they were asking for violence at that point
It was abused
It’s even worse than that. According to the law, legal officials involved got paid MORE if the person in question was determined to be an escaped slave than if they were determined to be a free person.
There was literally a financial reason to side with the slavers…
@@jdfigs5916 They still do today.
It was, quite a bit.
No matter how bad the acts of Bleeding Kansas were, they paled in comparison to the inhuman horrors of everyday slavery. There are few acts of violence as awful as slavery ever was as I'd consider enslavement (and all that came with it) to be one of the worst acts imaginable.
Remember: the animal husbandry industry is what humans do to things that aren't human.
Or people should have saw the horror of the Civil War when Bleeding Kansas occurred and should have made a more thoughtful and forceful debate whether slavery should be ban
@whm_w8833 to be fair, slavery was primarily the reason for all the Bloody KS.
But it was a whirlwind of alot of chaos in KS at the time. Cattle drives, "Frontier Troubles (predators, lack of supplies, Hostile indigenous persons, lack of medical attention)" , the Kansas Nebraska act was kinda just the detonator on a pile of c4 that was already getting big because "Hey guys, I Found Free Land over here"
Yup
As a Kansan myself I'm very excited to learn more about the period of Bleeding Kansas, because it was tragically glossed over in my school when we learned about the civil war. Thank you EH for teaching what schools won't.
Thank you for seeking out knowlage in a time where its selective.
Another fellow Kansan, I've always liked the story of Henry Beecher since a junior high history teacher taught it to us about 40 years ago.
Henry was a pastor in New York city and a very avid abolitionist (his sister was the famous abolitionist author Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of Uncle Tom's Cabin). Henry raised money to send members of his congregation to Kansas to help sway it to be a free state. They settled here and founded the town of Wabaunsee (about 10 miles east of Manhattan).
What violence broke out in Kansas he raised money to send them a shipment of Sharps rifles. To prevent them from being seized by the border ruffians they were shipped in crates labeled "Books and Bibles". Those rifles became known as Beecher's Bibles.
Part of the reason schools don't is that its a mess and hard to explain in the time you have in a school setting. The dynamic of all the people coming from out of state to fight for their opinion, and how much of it was not actually "bloody" (at least not many actual lives lost) complicates how to articulate the scenario.
A lot of history from the Civil War and Reconstruction has been glossed over. It’s sad that attempts to cover these eras have been derided as CRT or “woke” when it’s simply American history.
@roberteltze4850 Beechers bibles; not gonna lie that's pretty fuckin cold.
"Rifles donated by abolitionists churches"
God has blessed us
seems about right
Beecher's Bibles.
I bet they blessed them too with a reading from the Book of Armaments
*Joshua Graham liked that*
@@MasteringJohn "We can't expect God to do all the work"
An actual American hero, that man.
Hell no
hell yes
@@simonunella6330 dude
50/50 from me
He is an inspiration to me
Extra History is teaching a South African in a village in South Africa in the Northern Province about a 19th Century American radical abolitionist,thank you ❤️
That's so amazing
Thank you for taking an interest and learning ❤
I always wanted to visit Durban to see the Tamil community there
What irony, since the peaceful end of Apartheid was considered so miraculous to the 20th century.
The violent revolution that should have come in America,
and the peaceful reconciliation that wasn't expected to come in South Africa.
@@CodaMission South Africa is in chaos right now.
When churches donate swords and rifles to you, that’s when you know it’s about to get wild
Well, the prayer says "God is my shepherd", and sometimes, to be a good shepherd, it is necessary to kill the wolves that threaten the peace of the flock.
@Content_enjoyer if the "intervention" is "some people will be their rights and freedom denied because of an arbitrary belief", than the game MUST be broken by the players, developers be damned.
On this instance i remember famous song of django unchained from john legend
"Now I am not afraid to do the Lord's work
You say vengeance is his but Imma do it first
I'm gonna handle my business in the name of the Law, mmh
Now if he made you cry oh I gotta know
If he's not ready to die, he best prepare for it
My judgment's divine I'll tell you who you can call
You can call
You better call the police
Call the coroner"
[Insert Sabaton's Last Stand here]
Swords of the Lord indeed.
3:33 Learning what we did in the first episode, that practically happened. Witnessing slavery as a child and the beatings people his age were given simply because they were enslaved definitely had that kind of impact on him.
He was obviously deeply traumatized by watching this friend get beaten basically to death.
While I agree that he was not untouched by slavery, I disagree. The fact is he could walk home and had his freedom. Also he was not phisically harmed unlike the other boy. Witnessing these injustice is traumatizing but it is not as traumatizing as actually surviving them.
@@mariuskaesser no one said they were
@@jordanetherington1922 I am sorry if I was wrong but it kinda felt like they did 🤷♂
@@mariuskaesser Trauma isn't a competition bro- just because somebody's deep, scarring wound isn't "as bad" as somebody else's doesn't mean there isn't common ground between the two.
Two points that I’m glad they’re drawing attention to.
1. John was right that emancipation by peaceful means was impossible.
2. As violent as John got it wasn’t anything more that the other side had done or was doing.
I mean most other other countries abolished slavery without a war.
@@jaredsandoy5616 yeah, but American abolitionists had been trying that for decades by John’s time and it was looking less likely every year.
Unfortunately, the institutional tension between free and slave states (which had been brewing for a long time, and over other issues) made peaceful abolition impossible in the US
Just cause you kill slightly less people and use slightly less torture does not automatically mean it is justified.
@@jaohonaxa I dont see what you're basing that on. part of the reason the Fire Eaters were so paranoid was their awareness that economic and social trends were working against them.
Violence is not a solution to be trotted out at the first inconvenience, but there are times when violence is the correct and possibly the only viable solution.
A lot of people lack the maturity to make that call
And would go gun swinging over the drop of a hate
@Pain Ville gaming A lot of people would also lack the moral courage to take that necessary step to enact controlled violence when necessary
And they would sit on the sidelines indefinitely while human suffering continues unabated.
"Violence is never an answer. It is, however, sometimes a question. And sometimes, the answer to it is 'yes'."
To proclaim 'violence is *never* the answer' infantilizes and disrespects the sword-shatterer, the chain-breaker, the *hero.*
And that is why duterte was so popular in the Philippines
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable” John F Kennedy
Peaceful revolution is only possible when the threat of violent revolution is clear, imminent of promise a greater disruption to established power structures as a peaceful one would.
Hi Chi Minh said that you charlatan
@@chetsmith8391 No, JFK did.
@@chetsmith8391JFK was the one who popularized it, although let's just say that he was a bit hypocritical.
Yep. That's why one of the bigger villains here was Nat Turner.
“As though his own soul had been pierced by the iron of slavery” that hit hard I hope someday someone can feel that type of way for me
Are you a slave?
Stop focusing on the past. Find a worthwhile cause in the class struggles of today.
@@stevencooper4422 “Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.”
@@stevencooper4422 typical response from people (like you) who desire to repeat it.
So when I was a kid in school we'd sing 'John brown's baby' to the tune of 'John brown's body' it was a stupid little song and dance where we'd omit a word and replace it with a gesture.
We were NEVER taught the actual words, or anything about the actual man.
I remember being absolutely incensed when I found out that rather than a touching ballad of a radical hero we were taught a nonsense baby song.
Finding out how many of his children died of disease only makes the whole thing worse. It's not just trying to erase the real man it's also a cruel insult.
What makes this awesome, is that in my history class we are right now learning about the Civil War and this video suddenly came up in my recommendation. Thanks for teaching me, what I needed to know.
If at any point you develop the opinion that General Ulysses S Grant was a simple minded commander who could only fight with vast numerical superiority to simply brute force his way through his opponents, as most school issued history books coverage focuses on his Appomattox Campaign, I would recommend reading up on his Mississippi River campaign (most notably the campaign to take Vicksburg) as this is most often summarized in footnotes. Along with Stonewall Jackson’s victory in Shenandoah Valley, some of Grant’s best work in the Civil War are tirelessly dissected in war colleges around the world to this day as key features of the maneuvers remain relevant to modern warfare after all this time.
Rest in peace John Brow you did the right thing
Violence isn’t the answer, it’s a question and the answer is “yes”
@8:55 Artist's prompt: "Guns. Lots of guns."
and swords, let's not forget the swords! .... although hard to see with all thoes guns 😂
The arsenal of freedom!
For all the anit-2a peeps in the audience, please note how a private citizen is taking up arms against the Federal Government.
I love this retelling of his story, I have a great admiration for this man and the work that he did. It's very easy to judge his violence from the future with no exacting knowledge of his struggles throughout his life and name him murderer. Brave, committed and righteous.
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"It's very easy to judge ____ from the future with no exacting knowledge of _____"
@@secularmonk5176 very clever name, I like it very much
@@secularmonk5176 ...I am aware of the point that you are making, do I agree? Not 100% but it has validity. 👍
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We seem to be on enough of the same page to get along 😺
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(about my name) Thx ... the lighter side of introverted nihilism!
His soul goes marching on! Love your videos!
Sometimes I think we as a modern audience fail to appreciate how radical Brown's attitude was. Everything from openly calling for the death of slave owners (if need be), to organizing a cosmopolitan militia was unheard of in the 1850s. Dude embodied every fear that a slave owner had and he owned it so hard.
Rules and Regulations are written with blood, as is social reform. Very few major changes in society happened without there being violence because violence, sadly, is often the only thing that makes people sit up and take notice. Not to say protests and strikes have not, but the greatest changes in society only occurred after copious amounts of blood were shed. I wish it weren’t so, god do I wish it weren’t so.
War never changes.
willing to bet the next 15 years in America will be like The Troubles on steroids.
The blood is only spilled though when those who resist change in the end take to weapons to defend the status quo. A revolution is seldom violent until the counter-revolution answers with violence. Great social change can happen though when there is enough people who refuse to help defend system of oppression, but that peace is only relative to capital means of the defenders who almost inevitably will take to weapons to hold it. It is therefore important to always advocate for peace, but arm the movement to defend itself against violence and if need be move through force instead.
Whilst violence is at times a sad necessity, we must be careful not to embrace it lest all sense and reason be lost.
You have to be careful with your violence though. The French Revolution, for example, lost itself in a violent revolutionary oligarchy. The violence that that pushed abolition to success was the American Civil War
As a Wisconsinite, it makes me smile every time I see my state pop up in history.
You guys should do a one-shot on Calixa Lavallée, he was a French-Canadian musician who saw minstrel shows from the US South touring what was then Lower Canada, became fascinated by the US South and eventually visited and did a complete 180 degree turn on his views about the South and became an abolitionist, enlisting in the Union Army and he was wounded in the leg and discharged after Antietam. He later ended up writing Canada's national anthem.
This and US labor history is something we should really spotlight more and more.
I've never awaited one of these episodes as eagerly as this one. Here's to Part 3.
Thanks!
Thank YOU!
And bleeding Kansas still holds over 160 years later with the intense rivalry between the University of Missouri and Kansas University.
You should do a series entirely on the Compromise of 1850, how a slaveowner President, Zachary Taylor attempted to force a crisis on the slavery issue, how he counted on the South's lack of leverage, how he died before he could play his gambit out, and how weaker men took over and immediately began making massive concessions so as to halt the crisis. Most importantly, it emboldened southern politicians to make ever louder threats of secession and civil war and led to ever more concessions that made civil war inevitable.
What was the goal his gambit if he was a slaveowner ?
@@xtoadsannom6704 There is the goal, and there is The Goal. The Goal can be reached only at the end of a chain of smaller goals, and unlike many of the Founding Fathers who owned slaves, who concentrated heavily on The Goal of ending slavery quickly, Taylor was aiming for a more modest accomplishment of curbing the institution's spread so others could chip away at it later, after he was gone.
One thing that you need to remember is that the Founding Fathers who owned slaves could not actually free those slaves however much they wanted to, because they were deep in debt. To free the slaves, first the debts needed to be cleared, and then came the greater problem of what was to be done with the slaves once they were free.
By 1850, the process of legal manumission had gotten much more complicated and difficult, so there were actually times that people would own slaves solely on paper, simply so that the slaves would be functionally free. If anything, we need to study Zachary Taylor more closely, because when a slaveowner was being criticized for being too aggressive against slavery, there has to be some eccentric dynamics in the slave/master relationship.
@@ladymacbethofmtensk896 Interesting.
So what was his plan then? What did he hope to accomplish by creating a crisis in 1850.
@@Kaiserboo1871 You don't get it, do you? We can probably never really know, because Taylor died before he could play out that first gambit. But the point was that in 1850, something needed to be done about slavery, but the institution was too well entrenched in the South to make outright abolition possible. Slavery would have to be ended in stages. Ironically, Lincoln ended slavery in stages. First he promised not to interfere where it already existed. Then he turned the War into a war of emancipation. And later still, toward the end, he commenced enacting the Thirteenth Amendment, and the South was, by that point, so desperate, they were taking steps against slavery themselves.
@@ladymacbethofmtensk896 So what was step 2 of his gambit.
Fun fact:
Harriet Tubman was born in the time of Jefferson and dies in the time when Reagan was born.
she died in 1913?
@@mehmeh2255 reagan was born in 1911. There was a period of time when both were alive
@@mehmeh2255 Harriet Tubman lived from 1822-1913, Jefferson died in 1826, and Regan was born in 1911, so like... kinda but barely
Dang, that's neat. I just looked it up and you're right. She was born 4 years before Jefferson died, and died when Reagan was 2.
@@ALLTHETIME-ALLTHETIME for the 1800 damn did she live for a long time
His soul goes marching on!
Western Mass Native here, love seeing some history on my area! Keep it up you guys rock!
Would it be possible to get a Video on Shay's Rebellion?
Love how Fredric Douglas’s hair is drawn
Both of these men had _really_ good hair.
Frederick Douglass looked like a lion and I have had a crush on him for ages.
@@erraticonteuse
Totally understandable, he was an attractive man. Also of course personality plays a huge role in attractiveness and being who he is clearly checks the personality box.
@@CaraTheStrange also, fun fact
Frederick Douglass was the most photographed man of the 19th century
@@MichaelCasanovaMusic
That certainly is a fun fact. Such magnificence deserves to be photographed as much as possible
This is one of the most exciting series so far, I knew nothing of this man and in 20 minutes I'm one of his fans.
fugitive slave act also made it illegal for slave owners to sell their slaves without permission from their state government. so if say a wealthy northerner bought out an entire plantation to free its slaves and move them north (which was a thing that happened) now the owner was not allowed to sell the slaves.
What this free market
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa we weren’t capitalists yet
@@Poormrworry
By that definition we have never been capitalist. You can still have a free market and be considered a capitalist society even with regulation. Only hyper capitalists will disagree
I like this man more with every episode.
Alright, some minor stuff I'm sure you'll discuss in the lies episode, but I'll say something anyways. California wasn't admitted to balance out Texas, that was Iowa. California actually threw off the balance, hence why it's request for admission caused the crisis in 1850. Ultimately the balance was preserved by a gentleman's agreement to send one pro slave and one pro free senator. The actual main parts of the compromise of 1850 were 1) California comes in as a free state (though with the earlier mentioned agreement) 2) The slave trade (but not slavery itself) would be banned in D.C. 3) Texas would be reduced in size, and along with the non-California sections of the Mexican cessation shall become the New Mexico and Utah territories, which allow slavery, and 4) the fugitive slave act.
Also, territories aren't states. New Mexico and Utah getting non-voting representatives is just what territories get, it's not really a part of the compromise, same with Kansas and Nebraska. Now, territories becoming organized is a step towards statehood, but it's important to make these distinctions in talking about bleeding Kansas because the whole crisis was tied up in the statehood process, as I no doubt imagine you'll have to discuss when you get to the Lecompton constitution.
Seems to me it’s less a question of when the abolitionists should have turned to violence but when; they were up against fanatical racists who wanted to maintain slavery even if that meant lying, cheating, threatening, and straight-up doing violence against anyone that opposed their barbarity. I can see how a system so entrenched in society as slavery was would be a hard thing to phase out, but the civil war was started by the south, and all their actions made it abundantly clear they were never gonna give up slavery without a fight. Then again, violence should be avoided as a last resort, the corpses of Americans piled in the fields were the realization of the worst fears of those that advocated a peaceful end to slavery, but the question of when you should stop trying to use peaceful means to change society is a far more difficult one, and often it seems, the answer seems only clear in hindsight.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." The South's lying, cheating and violence made a peaceful end of slavery impossible.
John Browns life is a life a sadness and heartache....I wonder if his losses propelled him into taking a firmer, stronger stance on abolition. Like a Antz life, where the female bee wanted to help the ant, but her husband(whatever) didn't but when she died he did everything he could to help. Because it was his loves passion and he too, had to see his partners wish come true.
Interesting perspective,ñ
5:30 Keep in mind, $1,000 from 1850 to today’s value is worth $38,355.13. That’s messed up
extra history you guys are amazing always top tier videos and hilarious as well
I don’t want to nitpick on this, but it’s a little weird that you chose bolt-action rifles instead of more era-accurate repeaters or breach loaders. I get it’s easier for the animators, but i wouldn’t expect Mauser bolt-actions in 1840s America
Bolt actions did exist, it is not too crazy for them to have bought Dreyser needle guns.
@@robertjarman3703 saying something did exist doesn’t mean it was common. also, there’s no evidence needle guns were used outside of europe or were very widespread until after the events in this series
I don't even know what any of that means. How big is the chance that the animator doesn't either?
@@wasneeplus good point!! not everyone knows everything about everything, but history channels are history channels
I think they're supposed to be Krag Jorgensen rifles, which is even more weird. Idk why they didn't just doodle a quick percussion rifle instead
Bro this series is amazing keep it up guys 😁👍
It's always "states rights" until the Northern States want to protect freed slaves.
Exactly. The South only cried "States Rights!" as long as those rights favored them and Slavery.
Don't even take that filth seriously.
Unfortunately I feel like we need someone like him right now
To do what?
@@sarasamaletdin4574probably wipe the board clean
@@eotwkdp
Meaning what?
@@johnmacrae2006 your own definition of just other chaotic horrible experience for all.
@@eotwkdp Ya, that’s what we need.
If you ever visit North Elba NY AKA Lake Placid NY. Visit John Brown's farm, his homestead, grave, and beautiful trails throughout the woods and grasslands. Full experience is May to October. There is a shaving cup made from the gallows that John was hung on (spoiler)
Most based human being ive never heard of.
Eh, I put him on the same podium as Jean Paul Jones, Ida Lewis, and that absolute unit that was the Tank Man of Tiananmen Square, who couldn't even be bothered to put down his groceries before winning a staring contest with a tank platoon.
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing "What are you gonna do, run me over? Your tank will break before I do."
Your add reads are superb.
The Northern states refusal to comply with the fugitive slave law is a grievance justification the Southern state bring up in their various articles of secession. When modern "historians" tell you about "states rights" more often than not this is one of the rights that are being directly cited. The Southern states believed their right to have slaves was being denied by Northern states refusing to help them keep their slaves.
So yeah right in the end it was still slavery.
I demand to see John Brown’s distinctive haircut and beard!
I am very surprised a millionaire started an experiment like that. Who was the millionaire?
Gerrit Smith. His story ends tragically and is a spoiler for the Harpers Ferry raid in the next episode...
We have to be willing to fight for what is right, even if it costs us our lives. Because very often, that's the only way things will change.
Those who believe this and their goal is self-righteous are rarely ever seen as the good guys
@Pain Ville gaming "their" and "good".
@@l3ete1geuse google traduation is a bitch
@@painvillegaming4119 Is it a requirement for ill informed people to be bad at grammar and spelling?
Ok but every person is willing to fight for something think they are fighting for what is right. Who are you to tell everyone else what is right or wrong.
“In Wisconsin it was declared unconstitutional.” *Me the Wisconsinite fist bumps air*
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court overturned that decision ^^'
But what happened a lot was that even if people were guilty of rescuing slaves, juries would find them non-guilty at their trials ^^
This series has been Awesome! Thanks.
when you are about to be punished for something you didn't do
and there is nothing you can do to stop the punishment
you should do something to earn the punishment
Wow, I've lived in the Adirondacks my whole life and I'm so happy that I know the history of North Elba now! I had never heard about that before and I'm thrilled to learn my area was a part of John Brown's life ✊
Visit the farm!
"We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed"
MLK
History, critical thinking and media literacy have never been more important.
Thank you for teaching about complex issues in a simple, fun and easily digestible format.
Doesn't seem very complex to me
Slavery is evil, those who practice it are evil, & evil can only be purged through fire & guns
Any fools who try negotiating with evil only concede ground & make evil stronger -- there is no compromising with injustice
History's biggest gigachad.
I've always loved him and this just makes me love him more. Argue with his methods if you want but his clarity and follow through is just right. We should all be about it like him instead of talking about it like most.
I love the way you explain history, its fun and it has taught me a lot about history
The most ironic part is that Kansas doesn’t even have suitable climate for slave plantations
Frederick Douglas had amazing hair
Thems the facts
"States rights to do WHAT?"
Violence is not the answer. It is the question, and the answer is yes.
Great video can't wait for the next one!
7:56 Ah yes. Nothing says “our faction is the legitimate majority” like milling around an election site with weapons on full display.
I live in Springfield Mass and never knew this history. So interesting!
"Surrounding the polling places with armed men and threatened the lives of election officials", thank goodness nothing like that could EVER hapen today!
"23 minutes ago"
I have waited LONG ENOUGH
Still a hero to me. ❤
The art's next level in this one. nice.
Jhon sounds like Chaotic good personified.
His truth goes marching on
Will you mention the U.S Army’s involvement in Bleeding Kansas and include a cameo by Lieutenant J.E.B Stuart of the U.S Cavalry?
Watching this directly after "our changing climate"s new video has me feeling a certain kind of way
Indeed.
Just what I needed today
4:31 the fact that sitting members of Congress drew firearms on each other in a debate over the "right" to enslave a human being goes a long way toward explaining how ass-backward such a despicably large percentage of our population remains to this day. Thankfully the younger generations of Americans seem to be rapidly changing that (something I attribute to the mainstream adoption of the internet and the decoupling of social awareness from geographic region or population density), but the fact that it's taken over a century and a half since the end of the American Civil War to even get this far is fucking disgusting.
The bit about Nebraska being "safe" from becoming a slave vote due to being next to Iowa...as someone who's family is from Nebraska, it's depressing to see how many modern day Nebraskans probably regret that, based on their attitudes on and towards race.
We won the war but lost the battle against Southern bigotry and racism.
ironically northern virginia is like the opposite of the racism of the south today. It's got enough people to turn VA purple
@MasterShake9000
Lol, most anti slavery activists in the 1850’s were more bigoted than your average current-day Nebraskan.
It is an ongoing weakness on the left that we believe every problem can be solved without violence. The sad reality is that no major social change has ever happened without violence or the threat there-of. Even Gandhi was successful mostly because the alternative was a general revolt/revolution on the Indian sub-continent.
Well violence to establish a communist utopia isn't exactly worth fighting for. History proves this.
It's so sad, but so true. At times, you've gotta pick violence as a means to defend yourself. However, you should never be the aggressor
@@foam3132 facts
It's not accidental that we've come by the belief that violence by the masses is never justified for any reason, yet we are met with violence in countless forms from the state and corporations and expected to take it in stride.
I mean, recent history ahows that revolution violence IS possible. Remember all those Color revolutions that toppled autocratic governments in the 1980's and 1990's?
I waited for this
Please do some sort of video or series on Appalachia ❤
You deserve all the love in the world
8:55 why do they have bolt action rifles lol
Not impossible, they were invented decades before, and the Prussian army were already using them quite well, but the US didn't have many.
Great series as always guys. I’d like to put in a request for a series on the Texas war for independence. As a Texan, I’d love to hear y’all’s commentary on the events
he gets the world record for awesomeness
"oh he was a radical abolitionist o lord a terrorist"
You cant be extreme enough about the evil of slavery
terrorist by technical definition, though undeniably a good dude
Seeing a history of federal congress being hung over issues that the majority of citizens do not benefit from or are in agreement regarding makes me mad for some reason
Loving this series. 💚
Massacre? I'm sorry, you mispronounced "His righteous sentence"
Animarchy based EH enjoyer
so fucking based
Vengeance.
10:48 ok i get this channel is highly intertwined with gaming (was more in the past but shh) but i still was NOT expecting fucking *_Peppino Spaghetti_* to appear in an ad break for a _history_ channel.
2:16 I see we are also time traveling here too
YOU GUYS ARE PERFECT
This is soo good
Is that Townsend at 5:52? 😊
You know what could be a interesting one of the battle of civitate l. Essentially Norman’s in Italy meaning a battle in which they heavily outnumbered and the Swabian last stand.
6:22 Who was the Millionaire who started the community?
I’m late, but I believe it was Gerritt Smith.
8:40 Just as the founding fathers intended 🦅🦅🦅🔫🔫🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
awesome!!!