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Answering Fundamentalist Attacks on the Eucharist
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2023
- In this presentation, Trent explains the wild yet surprisingly common objections fundamentalists make against the Eucharist and gives you some practical tips for answering them.
Trent Horn combats attacks on the Eucharist in his talk given at the 2022 Catholic Answers Conference, "The Eucharist - I Am with You Always." To attend this year's conference in person and meet your favorite apologists, visit: catholicanswer...
I am a former atheist, returned to Jesus over 6 months ago, I am right now in a crisis of determining whether to move to the protestant tradition or revert to catholicism. As an atheist I bought into the whole catholic pagan conspiracy theories and only just learning how many of them are just baseless. Your videos really help. I will pray to God that may his holy spirit guide me to the right path.
Hey how are you
At first sight the protestants seem to have good points but if you give it time, you will see all of them deconstructed. It is to be expected that 2000 years of tradition and scholarship have superior but less comprehensive (to the less educated) explanations and interpretations
What convinced you to become a theist?
I as a Catholic will humbly remind you that, practicing Catholics; BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST! Sadly, Protestants CLAIM to believe in Jesus Christ but; DON'T BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST and Mt.16:18 clearly reads that Jesus Christ and the Apostles founded One and ONLY Catholic Church in 33A.D. All others are False, Man made Protestant, Reformed, Religions and Churches, over 70,000 of them who use the same Bible and disagree with each other. God bless you.
Pagan is not a conspiracy theory. Constantine incorporated the paganism of the Roman Empire into the Christian church. You would need to research for origins of all the beliefs and practices. It also does appear to have been the policy, in converting natives of various countries, to adapt the native beliefs/practices into Catholicism with a belief it could be "Christianized".
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I'm a Syro-Malabar Catholic(follows East Syriac traditions) from south India our ancestors use the Peshitha Bible. Never expected Trent will mention it.
Yeee
i am also a syro malabar catholic bro
❤❤❤ @@jerintomjames3554
I'm glad you did this. I'm in the south and battling fundamentalists and hebrew israelites.
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I’m in the south too. South Carolina. 😀
@@Call_Upon_YAH First off we do NOT worship Mary. Second Catholic teachings are not blasphemous to the word of God, the Bible is a Catholic book. Thirdly we follow the teachings of the apostles, who’s authority was passed on to there disciples; called apostolic succession. Fourthly Peter was the first Pope whom was given the keys to the kingdom by Jesus Christ himself to be his shepherd on Earth. I don’t think you are aware that the misconceptions you have about the Catholic Church are completely untrue.
@@Call_Upon_YAH Lol
Just a gentle reminder: you are not battling them, they are battling you. You stand on the solid foundation that was laid by Jesus and Peter and his successors over the centuries. Remain in the truth of the gospels and they will not drag you down from that foundation.
This is Trent at his best. Bravo!
repeating ancient folklore..yes I agree..amen
There was a guy who called Catholic Answers Live the other day when Joe Heschmeyer was on, who believed Catholocism was based on sun worship. I had never heard anything like that before that call.
Look at your monsterance. Its a sun symbol with sun rays and your god is put in it and you worship it as god. Its your sun god. Enjoy your religion.
We do. We worship the Son of God 😁
Watch that stupid "documentary" zeitgeist. If comes from there but originally came from some dude in the 1800s. Bunch of crap
If you really want to go down that rabbit hole, look up Jack Chick.
How does Jimmy do it all? I had no idea he was capable of this level of art. Wow!
You mean Trent? LOL
Nvmd. Maybe I should watch the video first before reading comments :p
@@ButterCupLetsgoColts No. I mean Jimmy Akin. He drew that awesome comic. If you don't know who Jimmy Akin is, find out. He's a favorite of mine.
@Jesus Saves! All Protestant Churches come from one place: the church set up by Jesus Christ himself, The Catholic Church. I'm actually converting from Protestantism to Catholocism this Easter, along with my husband. I've done the research. The Protestant churches are heretical in nature and lack the sacrifice portion required to worship God through the real presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the consecrated Eucharist. The Protestant churches lack the fullness of the truth contained within the Catholic Church. I pray daily for the conversion of all sinners to the one true church and I will especially pray for you. May God bless you and may the Holy Spirit convict your heart of these fallacies you have been indoctrinated with.
I recall Jimmy once mentioned that he at one time was a police officer - a detective I think. If so, he would've been trained in how to make facial sketches for witnesses. That drawing looks an awful lot like just such a sketch.
This is definitely my new favorite Trent speech. Great job.
Trent, I'm enjoying this immensely.
As a Protestant discerning catholic faith, I don’t think Trent needs to justify addressing these “low hanging fruits.” I have a lot of friends in tennessee and Louisiana who are amazing Christian’s and very anti-catholic but have never been exposed to a reasonable catholic defense.
Most of the anticatholic objections are very hostile and uneducated. There is surely valid criticism, but most of their talkingpoints are things that not even the reformers wanted.
They are parroting 16th century political propaganda
Hmmmmmmm I'm from Tennessee & we are quite aware of Catholic cultism,, their manipulation of history in order to support their institution. It's probably because we have a habit of exposing liberalism. Where should we start? Their true establishment point, the centuries of the Pope's armies massacred murdering the true believers that existed thru out the world before the RCC of which labeled them Heritics? There is such glowing history that likes to be ignored otherwise people would doubt this is Christ's church. Wait! I know! Let's call people who understand that history as Fundamentalists that way they will lose credibility. Yeah yeah, just like that rotten Maxine Waters that termed those who disagree with democrats & liberals as Racists!
Love love love 💗. Thank you , this was a wonderful talk .
glad for this video - it's exactly what I wanted - am reading Catholicism and Fundamentalism
@@Call_Upon_YAH you're text seems to miss that Catholics would agree with much of what you posted. Have you looked at what Catholics would teach on these verses?
For instance keeping the word. Jesus said whoever's sins you forgive they are forgiven, whoever's sins you retain they are retained. Which is why Catholics have confession.
Catholic teaching also says that to worship anything or anyone as God is a sin.
Is the KJV the true Holy Bible?
@weaponofchoice-tc7qs yeah, the original comment I was replying to was deleted. I'm grateful for Catholic Answers, I'm not sold on the externals of catholicism (miraculous medals, statues and such), but the catechism and it's teachings seem solid.
@@ddmdUp1 All Bibles are a translation. There is no perfect Bible. The KJV is a rather literal translation. If you are comfortable with the KJV that is fine. Newer translations are easier to understand. I would recommend a Catholic Bible because the footnotes are consistent with Catholic beliefs.
Great video! Very helpful when dealing with those who have these types of objections
Trent!! I’m such a huge fan. I just recently bought your book The Case for Catholicism and I can’t put it down! I’ve taken a deep dive into learning about our faith and how to defend it. I am so appreciative for your hard work that goes into books and speeches like this.
after 2000 years, the practicing faithful would be about 5% of the world's population,,,not exactly a success storey..amen
Good teaching!
Glad you made this video!!!! Thank you!!!! It's not the scholars that attack us....our children at high school ball games, the park, walking in the shopping mall, at college, etc.
It's not the scholars who attack us in the work place, the bank, the dry cleaners, the supermarket, etc.
There was a little old man that attacked me with all his hatred in the grocery parking lot after I refused his jack chick flyer. He began to scream out, especially when I said I was a Catholic Christian, about Purgatory not being in the Bible, etc. I put on my Steve Ray/Trent Horne/Jimmy Akin/Patrick Madrid hat........
And I asked him. "Where does it say, in the whole Bible, that everything you believe has to be found in the Bible?"
And, "Where is Trinity in the Bible?"
And, I showed him where the Bible says that baptism now saves us, and John says Jesus taught them so much that there aren't enough books in the world to contain it all.
He simply couldn't win this battle. He was spitting and he got all red in the face and I told him that he needed to settle down. I was worried he would have a heart attack.
It is so sad how brainwashed these people are. They would drink the kool-aid. We need a Catholic apologist to make a book just for us little people to defend the faith and for our teen agers too. This book should have Bible verses and simple explanations of all those protestant questions. We need to be armed with the correct answers in our everyday life.
to be honest, all religions are pretty crazy
Unless I am going to argue theology I would take the tract just so I could throw it away later and keep it from falling in the hands of someone weak in the faith.
Unfortunately not many of them are out for the truth. Theyre just out to get us. I have seen many in the comments where people take the time to explain and even wuote bible verses but then these protestants resort to ad hominen attacks- calling us whores of babylon and stuff. Sometimes im tempted to hit them with a thick bible (hard bound)
@WeaponOfChoice that's what every religion things that only theres is right and all others wrong LOL. irony.
I doubt he was screaming or had any hate. You had the hate attacking that poor old man who was only trying to witness to the lost. Everything theological you believe needs to be in scripture. If it is not in scripture, then it is word of man and not Word of God. The teaching of the Trinity is in scripture. Many concepts are taught, but not given the name we give them. The name doesn't change anything; it's just a convenient label.
No, baptism does not save us, and scripture does not say it does. John said the things Jesus did could fill more books than the world could hold. Tell me, how would we know what those things were??
It sure is so sad how brainwashed you are. You obviously only drink the kool-aid of your RCC indoctrination and don't think, research, reason for yourself. NO critical thinking allowed in Catholicism. You might be burned at the stake, right? You don't have correct answers, only false propaganda.
God Bless you Trent!
Live TRUTH, Live CATHOLIC!!!
Does "Live Catholic" include transferring known pedophile priests from one parish to another?
@@moonytheloony6516
We all sin, Jimmy Swaggart is Protestant, he is sexually immoral.
That is vile
@@universalflamethrower6342except it's truth which y'all prefer to forget & kept swept under the carpet. Ya ought to dig into some of your mighty men of God pope's that were into vile sexual immorality. The Vatican & Jesuits did not help enough to squash that or change yer history enough
Hi CA, please turn on the caption featured on your channel, so we in indonesia can understand this speech in our own language. Thanks before
Trent Horn is totally an amazing 🙂I'm learning a lot from his podcast 🙂
I read Keating’s book on Catholicism & Fundamentalism when I was discerning the Church, excellent resource.❤
I'm reading that now. :-). How have you found your journey? Where did you come from?
@@ddmdUp1 Hi Daniel. I entered the Church in 2014❤️I read the Catechism in 2010 & fell in love with the Church but still had to work out assenting to all of the uniquely Catholic doctrines, Marian, papal, etc. I read a whole lot, Scott Hahn, Carl Keating, Jimmy Akin… I also read the Apostolic Fathers & everything prior to the Nicene Counsel I could find, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp, Clement of Rome, Didache, to establish the existence of the Church & her practices before Constantine. It still took 2 times through RCIA before I finally assented to everything.😂I was a staunch Southern Baptist before I started the journey & had no intentions of converting at the age of 57. 😂I tell people God dragged me kicking & screaming into the Catholic Church because He knew I belonged here😂🤣😂
@@TrixRN ❤️ I'm on my second round of RCIA now. My prayer was something like "Lord if you promise to see me through to the other side, I'll go." Meaning the transition from all my friends and relationships into the church. It's been a very difficult journey.
@@ddmdUp1 I’ll be praying for you🙏❤️Which doctrines are you having problems with, if I may ask?
@@TrixRN thank you. Mostly I struggle with does God hate me, tolerate me, or maybe love me. I'm coming from a strict Anabaptist setting where if you sin you're out mindset.
I get these glimpses of God loving me in Catholic teaching that gives me hope from time to time.
Marian beliefs seem unnecessary to require adherence past the gospel record, like assumption. Miraculous medals and superstitious beliefs are an annoyance. The catechism says anyone that believes the power is of the thing itself is superstitious, it seems like making merchandise of people to sell all the medals, statues and images. Medals are also recent like last 150 years.
The church's lack of discipline seems too lenient, like if people openly sin and don't believe the eucharist, seems like it shouldn't be ignored? That might just be misperception on my part.
I struggle with myself, but the idea of real healing and help in the church is encouraging. Like maybe I can grow in virtue, even at this older age.
So I'm somewhat confused, mixed with hopefulness, mixed with fear 😨
As a Brit, Trent's comment about 'utter rubbish' made me laugh (I say it all the time!)
Trent Horn, I love you brother! I’m traditional high church Anglican. We believe in a lot of Catholic beliefs from early on with all due respect excluding the doctrine of the Papacy. We hold to the 7 sacraments and kneel at the altar to receive the body and blood of Christ. I just want a more deep belief in the real presence coming from a Baptist James White background.
Yes, very close but lacking the essential Real Presence of Christ in the consecrated Eucharist, which is the true Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus. Transubstantiation. Your denomination does not believe in the Eucharist, and does not have this holy Sacrament nor any consecrated Bishops and Priests. Only in the Catholic Church. (And those certain Orthodox churches in union).
For those Protestants who are considering Roman Catholicism please read a book written by Timothy F Kaufmann ; Graven Bread, the Papacy, the Apparitions of Mary, and the Worship of the Bread of the Altar.
Amen Bro! 😊
Eastern Orthodox, Coptic Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, the Assyrian Church of the East, Roman Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, and even Calvinists who take John Calvin's Treatises seriously, all believe in some sort of Real Presence doctrine. Fundamentalists are in a tiny, tiny minority of Christians. But that just makes them be convinced that they're "The faithful remnant of the Lord."
They are in the minority? I know here in Texas (where Trent is too) every town has at least 4 churches, which are usually not any of the ones you mentioned. That's probably where Trent's coming from.
@@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 In the USA, yes, it is true, there are 67 Evangelical Fundamentalists for every one Catholic, and there are 150 Fundamentalists for every one Orthodox. But America is not the world. Globally, it is 1.6 Billion Catholics/Orthodox, compared to around 200 Million Fundamentalists.
@bradley tarr That can't really be true since the US is > 20% Catholic. The fundamentalists are largely regional, too, being a higher % in the South. Outside of the south they are a minority.
Can you please respond to Peter Dimond soon. It’s been troubling me for a while and I have a very hard time figuring out how to rebut his teachings. Love and thanks Trent
I think he might’ve done a video on it a little while back, if it wasn’t him it’s on Pints with Aquinas.
@@iq5402 he did a rebuttal but Dimond came out with 3 videos analyzing and rebutting his claims. Thing is I don’t like Dimond or his teachings but at the same time they seem hard to argue against, and it’s left me very worried about my own belief in the Catholic Church
@@adenmelton8264 He did a response to Dimond a while back. Basically Dimond loves to snag a quote out of context from 800 years ago and smash it into something a pope said after Vatican II and then conclude that this must be heresy and therefore they’re not the pope. But his feeneyite views were condemned before Vatican II, so he will do mental gymnastics and apply one standard to say that Pius IX and XII and the Council of Trent aren’t heretics when they say one thing but that Francis and other popes are heretics when they say the same thing. For a pope to be a heretic, he has to obstinately deny a dogma of the faith. If you can’t prove he’s obstinately denying a dogma and not just making an error, or that it isn’t a case of development of doctrine (such as with baptism by implicit desire) then he does not have a serious argument. This is not how the Church works, you don’t break into schism the moment you in your garage hear one thing from the pope you think is wrong. How would it have survived 2000 years if this was how things operated.
@@bman5257 thank you so much. I was never too convinced of Dimond considering some of his more messed up views (unbaptized babies go to limbo and even those who never heard the gospel go to hell.) I just had a hard time refuting his claims especially after he released a series of videos “debunking” Trent’s replies
@@adenmelton8264it's a good rule of thumb not to pay much heed to those who spend their lives bashing our faith. It would be like accepting legal advice from convicted criminals. There's an unlimited number of ways someone can be wrong, and you only have so many hours in a day. The enemies of God would love to have you stuck playing whack-a-mole all the time, instead of experiencing all the joys in life God desires for us.
Thanks so much and God bless you
I encourage all to read Ephesians 2;8-9 and 1John 5:13 in the kjv.
Where does the Bible say to read the
KJV ?
The KJV is just bad ass
@@PInk77W1exactly, it's better just being a RCC drone, don't have to think, believe or move just drink the Vatican Kool aid. Kinda like feeding off CNN then go out & attend anti anything riots & protests
I was debating a Protestant online
I brought up Jn 6. Where Jesus said
“My flesh is real food.”
The guy answered me by saying
“Obviously he didn’t mean it”
Protestants are like Abdools, they will twist scripture any way possible to do Sola Scripture, that is because they don't know the Grace of tradition
And how did you reply? This is what I say:
Jesus taught that _unless you _*_eat His flesh_*_ and _*_drink His blood,_*_ you will: _*_have no life in you; no eternal salvation; and Jesus will not reside in you nor will you reside in Jesus._* John 6:53-56.
Those who do not believe take the mark of 666, as in John 6:66: no coincidence that number. Furthermore, St. Paul also warned those whom didn't discern this truth (of the true Body and Blood of Christ) became ill and some even died. (1 Corinthians 11:29-30).
@@c.Ichthys I don’t remember how I replied.
I was pretty shocked
@@PInk77W1somehow you need to pray for wisdom & try to understand. V47 I say unto you He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
So what did he say?
V51 if any man eat of this bread he shall live forever.
Oooops, contradiction??!! What?
Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man & drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Hmmmmmmmm
Let's see here: v47 believe is the rule as is so much scripture. V51, 53: eat of this bread, eat of this flesh, drink of his blood.
Did it kick in yet? V47 believe for eternal life. V51, 53 is an edition to that? If I believe it ain't good enough? Howbout I just eat & drink, that'll do it? Nope it don't say that. Why did Jesus one day change to speaking in parables?? Now how did Jesus talk when he wanted us to think? Could Jesus Christ be ourb"only" nourishment for life? Of course. Could feasting on the flesh & blood of Jesus be belief & faith? Is it better to have a priest order down Christ from his position in heaven daily to be sacraficed again? He was a once & for all perfect sacrafice for me from GOD, why, how could I let a man, an institution claim it's ok, it's needed, it's bloodless? Only, only Satan would cause question or try to distort what Christ did once for all.
I know y'all have been conditioned & re-educated by & on Vatican orders but GOD gave you HIS WORD & HIS Spirit for a reason, now use it!!!!
The Didache says believers should fast one or two days prior to being baptized so that clearly refutes infant baptism.
The Apostolic fathers were Jewish and taught what was written in the letters that were passed around to the churches. They also knew the disciples. After the Apostolic fathers there came the Early church fathers who were gentile and then started changing what the Apostolic fathers taught.The gentile fathers were influenced by Greek philosophers, and some of them taught a form of purgatory.
I have also heard in the past, “In the Holy Spirit” for IHS.
The stuff some people can imagine!
I sometimes wonder if such people has ever, even remotely considered the idea... the possibility, that English is not the only language in the world? And if they can also realize it is a relatively new language by that matter.
I have also heard that it is Iesu Homidor Salvador or something similar, the Latin for Jesus Mankind's Saviour. Another is In Hoc Signo - in this sign.
can you put the possibility to translate the video into french please?
People who have a 4th Grade Education on Egypt and the Egyptian Pantheon, know that the Egyptian Sun-god was Ra...
Yeah, cuz he had like the coolest name! (and easiest to remember)
Cool. I didn't know Jimmy was an artist.
Martin Luther found a Bible in his monasterys library. Monstasterys did not teach men who were studying for the priesthood the Bible, they merely learned how to present the "Mass" for the laity.
Martin Luther believed Mary is the Mother of God and Christ is truly present in the Eucharist.
@@MarcLarocque He did not believe in transubstantiation, he believed in consubstantiation.
Trent’s Gargamel voice is on point! 🤣👏🏻
Trent def on some “Red Bull” before this speech lol
I had had heard of awry but I thought it was a different word to "or-ee" too, until I finally heard speaker reading from a powerpoint pronounce awry as a-rye.
If you want hear about the Eucharist miracle in Poland go to RUclips and watch the video on The Saint Thomas Eucharist miracle that happened this week.Its about 2:35 long. Either watch all of it or go to the 2:00 minute mark and he'll start talking about the Poland Eucharist miracle and the heart tissue
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can we have a story time with the trents?
Thousand of Protestants were killed by the Roman Catholic church for refusing to participate in the idolatry of the Mass.
I agree that millions were not killed by the Roman Catholic church but millions of people who rejected Catholicism were tortured. The majority of these people returned to Catholicism do to being tortured or being threatened with torture.
The Lords Supper was actually fulfilled in the first century by the house of Israel.
What video is Trent referring to in Oceanside?
Not one Roman Catholic wrote any book listed in the Bible so they didnt give people the Bible. The Old Testament and Apocrypha books were written by the Jews who were entrusted the "Oracles of God" over a thousand years before the Roman Catholic church existed. The New Testament letters were passed around to various churches by the Apostles before the "Council of Trent" claimed to give people the canon.
Trent. Give me your public speaking powers
The Roman Catholic church clearly violates the teaching of the Last Supper when it only offers the "host" for Mass or waters down the wine . Jesus clearly offered both the bread and the wine separately to eat.
Doumo arigatou gozaimasgita/どうもありがとうございました
In the passage about eating with unwashed hands, Jesus says that whatever goes in the mouth is eliminated so that has nothing to do with righteousness. Does that relate at all to the Eucharist being the actual body and blood of Christ and grace being conferred through the Eucharist? I can see the argument of the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist conferring grace, but not the physical presence in the sense of flesh and blood.
I was in a pilgrimage in 2023 and was on a 2 by 2 mission knocking on doors as catholics. A group of protestants motioned us over and gave us these comics. Hahaha. Proceeded to barage us with how we were wrong that we believe we still have to do abything to be saved
32:01 Noting, anamnesis in the LXX translates lə·’az·kā·rāh in Lev 24:7 and lə·zik·kā·rō·wn in Numb 10:10 ... in each case a sacrifice is involved, so we have a very good case for Mass being a sacrifice.
@WeaponOfChoice I'm not sure what "accuser" is supposed to mean in a case like this ...
@WeaponOfChoice I know it is a legal expression - what I don't know is which side is supposed to be cast for the role of "accuser" in a case like this.
@WeaponOfChoice No offense caused.
@WeaponOfChoice Indeed, I was only puzzled by a choice of word.
In the situation of the 16th C. your proposition would have been clearer, since the Reformers were accusing what was hitherto the main position.
@WeaponOfChoice meaning, the "reform" ditched Jesus as the way and the life ...
When you forgive your child, do you then afterwards beat them after forgiveness?
Is that how you teac children to forgive others?
"Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.”
No, but if my child breaks a window of the house, while I forgive them, they still have to pay for the repair of the window
@@joethebro3965
Jesus has paid it for us, for He is our passover sacrificed (once) for us.
That's Grace.
Thanks, Trent. Someone needs to defend the actual body of Christ! And His soul & divinity. God bless you, sir. May His peace always be with you. 🙏
PS I have Chick's entire The Crusaders comic book series, all 22 volumes. Why I have them is a quandary; my poor Protestant PTSD ex-Ranger ex gave them to me one day while telling me that the earth was flat & the moon landing was faked. And this poor soul had multiple PhD's and truly believed that Jesus is who He claims. He believed THAT, not believed IN Jesus. And so, in remembrance for this poor soul, I've kept the comic book series. After all, they ARE highly entertaining & a joke. Should be in a museum to mental instability somewhere, don't ya think?
Jesus is a big boy. He can defend himself.
@weaponofchoice-tc7qs Your god is weak and needs humans to defend him. Mine is strong and needs no help.
It’s the low hanging fruit that gets the big views…ok, you just got there. Never mind. God bless
27:59 I don't think this view of the "Forbidden Book" is exclusive property of Fundamentalists.
I am not sure whether Craig Lampe is Fundamentalist or not, he's just radically Protestant.
I did write a response to a video giving his book as a "dcoumentary" and it would seem the guys involved were very far from exclusively Fundamentalists.
Amen!
About 30 yrs or so ago I found a Chick Tract in the pages of a library book. It was in the Catholic section where I was browsing. I could see immediately how egregiously incorrect it was. The art was crude and the message so ill informed. They could be used to instruct ppl in apologetics as Horn is doing here, like for teens who might be swayed and don't know what to say when confronted. There is too much "sheep stealing" going on by some evangelicals, many who were raised Catholic themselves.
Yet, Evangelicals who are sincere, who study their Bibles, who heed the Words of Jesus, who read the Early Church Fathers, & who are open to the Holy Spirit, end up becoming Catholic. Scott Hahn, Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples, Steve Ray, David Anders, John Bergsma, Marcus Grodi, and so many more.
The Chick comic books look like propaganda psyop against the Catholic Church...look at the devices he uses to influence the ill infomed...no facts...completely false stuff he promoted.
The Bible says not to make graven images of anything that is in Heaven, like angels. The Roman Catholic church clearly distorts images of angels portraying them as feminine or cute and cuddly.
Actually, no, this is something that most commonly came out of the Italian Renaissance.The word "cherub" may come from the Akkadian word karabu, which means "to bless." The Catholic church doesn't say, "Ah yes, all angels are cute little babies with wings." Even the earliest depictions of angels in iconography were not portrayed the way you're thinking of. This is mainly because of the idea that angels don't have a physical body like you, and I have one. Instead, in art, they have "bodies" they have "wings" to separate them from humanity. And yes, books such as Ezekiel and Revelation do depict angels. Yet this is not what they always physically look like, since they are not physical creatures
Holy avocado toast! I’ve heard of Chick Tracts, but didn’t know they were this bad. This is so embarrassing.
They're not bad, they're VICIOUS
When Peter was confirmed as the first pope….upon this rock I shall build my church not upon my bible….both are equally important it just shows that sola scriptura is nonsense
How about answering schismatic attacks on our Pope.
Trent Horn = CA apologist + Star Wars nerd
0:08 That Protestants attack the Eucharist is one thing, but what's Fundamentalist about it?
38:16 Is that Vener. Fulton Sheen, holding up a host?
Either way, the laws about what to do to heretics and the laws about what is heresy are absolutely distinct, and with no large swathes of population Catholic and isolated from non-Catholics, there is not much to protect by executing heretics. The Inquisition has had its run, but it's not a viable option for today.
Yes Fulton Sheen
@@PInk77W1 Thank you!
Trent is Bad Ass!!! Jack t chick tracts made me dig more into my faith...the death cookie made me more alive when i looked in to the real Eucharist....
Newsflash: The Catholic Eucharist is NOT "Holy" at all.. especially since it's given out by a Church that's "Accursed", "Anathematized" and "Eternally Condemned" by it's preaching of "Another Gospel"..as well as..4,000 (and counting) Priests..who became Defiled..when they had their hands down the pants of 330,000 Children (and counting) that they RAPED and SEXUALLY ASSAULTED them possibly weeks, days or even hours..before handing out the Eucharist..which made the Eucharist Desecrated..and UNHOLY!
Chick seems to have once again only read part of the prohibition against Idolatry as it is not just an image of God that is forbidden but anything in heaven and on earth, so the depiction of an angel and human (souls) around 5:20 would make Chick a (now diseased) Idolater.
29:36 Actually, "private interpretation" as you attribute to Protestantism is a fairly late comer in Protestantism.
The Lutheran view is more that the Church _has_ a magisterium, which is always fallible even if authentic, to put it in terms that a Catholic can relate to.
This obviously means, the Lutheran could claim that while Lateran IV was authentic magisterium, it was still fallible, and actually failed. So, a new authentic magisterium is set up by Luther and his disciples to correct that. And the Lutheran idea of who decides over the magisterium is simply Caesareopapism.
@WeaponOfChoice It's even what he wanted and promoted.
It's what Lutheran countries had.
I thought Luther was complaining about too many people doing what he did almost immediately.
@@PInk77W1 Good analysis of a psychological type, but not good assessment of what he thought.
@@hglundahl
He wrote it down
Its really brave of you to show the Chick Track because it really exposes the CC. And bravo for trying to explain it away. I have a new respect for you.
I don't think it shows what you think it shows, or exposes who you think it exposes.
@@misterkittyandfriends1441 You false religion catholics are funny.
@@peterzinya1
A cartoon tract
vs
Hundreds of giant Cathedrals and universities and hospitals
8:22 _"They did it in Ancient Egypt"_
Is Jack Chick (in the person of the devil) leaning on Hislop?
Oh, hadn't heard of Massey, sorry ....
Either way, leaning on either Hislop or Massey is not Fundamentalist exesis ...
The DaVinci Code is a dramatic NOVEL, loosely based on various historical & religious views. It is not an addition to the Canon. Dan Brown is a talented author; I very much enjoy the “Ancient Artifact Treasure Hunt Action Adventure” genre. Indiana Jones; The Librarian Trilogy; National Treasure Duo; Romancing the Stone / Jewel of the Nile; etc. All Fiction.
I truly do not understand why so many bloomers are so bunched up over The DaVinci Code….
Seriously, folks…
Statues and idol worship is one of my favorite things to discuss with protestants.
Do they worship their terracotta garden bunny or bird? Do they worship the stuffed panda bear their child has? Do they let their daughter play with a baby doll?....oh, then they must worship infant humans.
They refuse to see the ridiculousness of all this.
sadly we ALL worship our cell phones, literally never turning them off or leaving them alone.
@@terrymunoztrujillo483 I agree with that statement in general. But not "ALL"
@@row1landr 94% ;)
To be fair, Protestants do not kneel before gnomes, bunnies, pink flamingoes, and say prayers. A much better argument is to quote the Bible in which God orders the Israelites to make statues, even after apparently forbidding 'graven images'.
Exodus 25 10 “Have them make an ark[b] of acacia wood-two and a half cubits long, a cubit and a half wide, and a cubit and a half high.[c] 11 Overlay it with pure gold, both inside and out, and make a gold molding around it. 12 Cast four gold rings for it and fasten them to its four feet, with two rings on one side and two rings on the other. 13 Then make poles of acacia wood and overlay them with gold. 14 Insert the poles into the rings on the sides of the ark to carry it. 15 The poles are to remain in the rings of this ark; they are not to be removed. 16 Then put in the ark the tablets of the covenant law, which I will give you.
17 “Make an atonement cover of pure gold-two and a half cubits long and a cubit and a half wide. 18 And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. 19 Make one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; make the cherubim of one piece with the cover, at the two ends. 20 The cherubim are to have their wings spread upward, overshadowing the cover with them. The cherubim are to face each other, looking toward the cover. 21 Place the cover on top of the ark and put in the ark the tablets of the covenant law that I will give you. 22 There, above the cover between the two cherubim that are over the ark of the covenant law, I will meet with you and give you all my commands for the Israelites.
@WeaponOfChoice AWESOME example!
Numbers 21
4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea,[c] to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!”
6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.
We Catholics are on the high ground. We don’t need to prove anything to Protestants. They must be willing to listen
Hahahaha. You have that backwards. The Church that tortured and killed millions in the most diabolical ways has no high ground.
@@joycegreer9391 Did you even watch around 35:00 and on? Without lies, Protestantism dies.
- ex Prot
@@user-zi7gd9pn3l You mean without lies Catholicism dies, heretic.
You need to research all the tortures and killing of the RCC. I've never heard/read the atrocities as being supposed witches burned at the stake...smh. That was not the focus of the Inquisitions. Stating RCC and secular as different is very disingenuous. The RCC controlled all of Europe. Religious and secular were not separate. The person on this video is dishonest.
@@joycegreer9391 Actually religion and government were separate. The church didn't control the government, it influenced it, but ultimately the government got the final say. Also most criminals during the times of the inquisition hoped to get tried for heresy because the church courts were way more forgiving than the government courts. Most heretics would of been let off easy by just promising to do Penance for their crime.
@@user-zi7gd9pn3l You have that wrong. RCC controlled Europe. The secular carried out executions by the orders of the Vatican. Kings were ruled by the RCC. Otherwise, Henry VIII would not have had a problem.
Penance was not the issue. These were people tortured into recanting or being killed in horrible ways. These were not secular crimes.
You need to seriously research.
There were Bibles chained to Roman Catholic churches but they werent written in the venacular so the common man couldn't read them.
@amo6396 All right, would you like to become a monk? Spend your whole life writing a Bible on an animals hide? To later have it stolen from a church? The monks practically were the printers of the medieval Era. The printing press was invented in 1440 by a Catholic German. And even then, think of the development of book making up until that point. It was chained to the church so that people could read it without it being stolen
Ambrose of Milan, On the Mysteries
Chapter 9. Ο Θεός να ευλογεί.
It’s not a parallel it’s a precursor and it’s correct. The Eucharist wasn’t anything new but derived from the ancient mystery cults. It’s history like it or not. You can’t debunk it.
Nope
JESUS SAID "IF ANYONE SAYS, HERE IS THE CHRIST (THE UNBIBLICAL EUCHARIST).., DO NOT BELIEVE IT".(MATTHEW 24:23).
well then your Calling Christ un biblical
In Matthew 26, Mark 14, and Luke 22, Jesus says of the bread, “This is my body.” He says of the wine, “This is my blood.” Not “this is symbolic of,” or “this represents,” He says “this IS.” In John 6, He repeats Himself, like He does nowhere else in Scripture, to emphasize the fact that He expects us to eat His flesh and drink His blood and that His flesh is real food and that His blood is real drink.
Anyone who says He is speaking symbolically, and not literally, simply is refusing to look at all of the facts. Fact #1: The Jews took him literally, verse 52. Fact #2: His disciples took him literally, verse 60. Fact #3, the Apostles took him literally, verses 67-69. If everyone who heard him speak at the time took Him literally, then my question is: Why does anyone today, 2000 years after the fact, take him symbolically?
Also, in verse 51, Jesus says that the bread which He will give for the life of the world is His flesh. When did He give His flesh for the life of the world? On the cross. Was that symbolic? If you think Jesus is speaking symbolically here when He says that we must eat His flesh and drink His blood, then you must also conclude that Jesus’ death on the cross was symbolic…it wasn’t really Jesus hanging up there…it was symbolic flesh and symbolic blood.
Jesus is clearly talking about the flesh that He gave for the life of the world…He did that on the cross. Those who believe He is talking symbolically here in John 6, have a real problem when it comes to John 6:51. Did Jesus give His real flesh and blood for the life of the world, or was it only His symbolic flesh and blood?
First, any divine command that comes later modifies divine commands that came earlier. When Jesus declared all foods clean (Mk 7:19), his command superseded the earlier command that certain foods be regarded as unclean (Lv 11:1-8). If Jesus today commands us to drink his blood, his command supersedes any prior command concerning drinking blood.
Second, the command against drinking blood, like all of the Old Testament dietary regulations, has passed away, for “These are only a shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink” (Col 2:17, 16).
The mention of not eating blood in Acts 15:20, 29 was a pastoral provision suggested by James to keep Jews from being scandalized by the conduct of Gentile Christians. We know that these pastoral provisions were only temporary. One concerned abstaining from idol meat, yet later Paul says eating idol meat is okay so long as it doesn’t scandalize others (Rom 14:1-14, 1 Cor 8:1-13).
If it is objected that blood is not a food (though it is in some cultures), note that Jesus was asked (Mk 7:5) why his disciples ate with unwashed hands. He replied, “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn’t go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body” (7:18-19). In context this refers to a non-food substance (the dirt on one’s unwashed hands).
Third, the Old Testament is very specific about why one was not to eat blood: “The life of every creature is the blood of it; therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood” (Lv 17:14, cf. Dt 12:23). The Israelites could not eat animal blood because it contained the animal’s life, but there is one Person whose life you must have in you, “Christ who is your life” (Col 3:4).
Finally, even if the Jehovah’s Witnesses were right that drinking blood were intrinsically evil instead of the subject of a temporary prohibition, they would still have problems with John 6 because, in their interpretation, Jesus would be commanding us to eat his flesh symbolically and to drink his blood symbolically. He would be commanding us to act out symbolically an intrinsically evil deed as part of a sacred worship service. But this leads us to a ludicrous conclusion, so it must be that drinking Christ’s blood is permissible (not to say desirable).
@@biblealone9201 you are wasting your time on lupe lo ....
He is here AGAIN as a troll and not here to listen to reason.
Jesus said
As often as YOU do this
I’m tired of hearing all this stuff over and over. I don’t need to be convinced . I accepted all this in 2 nd grade. Gee!
15:00 A long history of folklore belief does not make it any more real. Transubstantiation is a religious belief, not a scientific fact ..amen
If transubstantiation is only a religious belief then how do you explain the scientific evidence from the Eucharistic miracles?
Oh ye of little faith. Since you brought up science in your previous comments, take a look at scientists discoveries about the miracles of the Eucharist which are actual health tissue.
The Roman Catholic "host" is clearly a graven image.
But he answered and said unto them, "Why do you also transgress *the commandment of God* by your TRADITION?” Sun-day
{Matthew 15:3}
Oh here you are taking a verse out of context! Read Matt 15:3 in context. Now tell me, what tradition, were they doing that Jesus condemned? They were not taking care or their parent(s)!!! Not honoring mother and father! Giving "gifts" to the Pharisees that would profit these Pharisees, while neglecting the care of parents.
@@c.Ichthys
What difference does it make? They did the same with their traditions added to God's holy sabbath day.
@@c.Ichthys
This was not meant for them, but for you who are wondering after the mark of the beast and worshipping on Sunday a common (spurious) day that God has never made holy.
@@c.Ichthys
It was Peters confession of faith that Jesus would build his church on.
Not on Peter himself.
When Jesus came into the coasts of *Caesarea Philippi* he asked his disciples, saying, "Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?"
And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
He saith unto them, "But whom say ye that I am?"
And Simon Peter answered and said, *Thou art the Christ the Son of the living God*
And Jesus answered and said unto him, "Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and *upon this rock I will build my church* and *the gates of hell* shall not prevail against it.”
{Matthew 16:13-18}
"upon *this rock* I will build my church"
is a demonstrated pronoun.
No different than,
Jesus answered and said unto them, "Destroy *this temple* and in three days I will raise it up.”
{John 2:19}
"the gates of hell"
Here Jesus was using satire, for the pagans believed that the gates of hades was at a cave in Caesarea Philippi.
“And I will give unto thee *the keys of the kingdom of heaven* and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
{Matthew 16:19}
The keys to the kingdom is not exclusive to Peter, for anyone can open the kingdom of heaven by their witness of the gospel to unbelievers.
“Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.”
{Matthew 10:32}
That *if thou shalt confess with thy mouth* the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and *with the mouth confession is made unto salvation*
{Romans 10:9-10}
And that *every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord* to the glory of God the Father.
{Philippians 2:11}
Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
{1 John 4:15}
And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said, *If thou believest with all thine heart thou mayest* And he answered and said, *I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God*
{Acts 8:35-36}
@@larrybedouin2921 You make false statements. Jesus said He is the Lord of the Sabbath. Sabbath does not mean "Saturday". It actually means "seven", and God commanded man to work 6 days and rest on the 7th (Sabbath) keeping the 7th day holy. There was no Saturday. Know when the Apostles observed the Breaking of the Bread (Eucharist) and which day? As Scripture declares: on the first day of the week, the Lord's Day (which is known as Sunday).
When you are ignorant about history you can make your own up. Go Woke
3:00 I have a scholarly criticism. so you will love it.The garden of Eden is folklore from antiquity. We evolved as human beings and were not created. Try to answer that in a scholarly way..amen
You're not credible. Tell me, how did we evolve? You would say from a one-celled brainless amoeba. Where did that amoeba come from? Where and when did the universe come into existence? Whom created the amazing complex DNA? How did a brainless amoeba know to become eyes, brains, organs, bones etc? Not only that, male and female at the same time with reproductive organs. And to create plant life, insects and all animals, birds and sealife? At the same time since all life on earth is co-dependant and exists synergistically. See, in order for there to be created things, there first must be a Creator. And that Creator is God as He revealed to us and came to us in the Person of Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh.
15:00 Nowhere in my high school chemistry book could i see how Jesus can be transported from heaven and chemically become a piece of naan bread..amen
You won't find answers about the Eucharist in your chemistry book. Try reading the book, Rome Sweet Home, by Professor Scott Hahn. That should help you understand the Eucharist.
Oh so you place limitations on God's miracles! Pitiful.
I am the 666th like!😂😂😂 For a second i thought, weather to give like or not.
So you say it's highgly unlikely to burn 5 million women at a stake, yet I presume you wouldn't dare to voice the same doubt about holocaust.
Flee from idolatry!!!
7:53 You have hopes of Jack Chick getting to heaven?
Just before he died, he was blaspheming the visions of St. Ignatius of Loyola ....
7:25 St Paul should be in Rikers for crimes against humanity..amen
Well, as you judge so shall you be judged. Thankfully St. Paul is eternally in heaven with God.
Those people do not respect the Last Supper that Jesus and his apostles had ever taken...do in remembrance of Jesus.
4:15 _"is there anything this man can't do?"_
Distinguish Fundamentalism from Anticatholicism, perhaps?
As a Bible believing Christian I am saved by grace through faith ( for good works ) and the good works are a necessary sign that my heart has changed and I love god but I am not trying to earn what Christ has given as a free gift.If we have to earn ongoing salvation then the cross is nullified and Christ died for nothing .All he had to do was to encourage the Jews to spread their faith to the rest of the world and we would all have a faith based on good works under the law of Moses .But Jesus died for my sins and rose again to give me eternal life as a free gift of grace through faith .The consequence is that as a saved person you want to please god and so do good works out of love for god.I am incapable of earning salvation myself Why ? I cannot be perfect every second of every hour of every day.god bless
You confuse Redemption with Salvation. Everyone, (past, present and future) was *_redeemed_* by Jesus's death upon the cross. That is not automatic salvation. Salvation is a gift we either accept or reject, and salvation once accepted can be lost. Jesus placed conditions (requirements) on salvation with His commands/teachings: Baptism, Confession, Holy Communion (aka Eucharist), obedience.
Jesus said if you love Him you will obey his commandments. He told us to obey our Bishops that He gave us and to listen to his Church (which is Catholic). Jesus warned that not all believers will get eternal salvation, only those who do the will of His Father. Oh and to be clear, no one can merit their own way into heaven.
@@c.Ichthys your comment is totally contradictory and you are contradicting yourself .First you make a distinction between redemption and salvation so that you can give Christ the partial credit and has to be then continued with the following of rules .Having told me what I need to do to earn salvation you conclude by telling me I can do nothing to merit salvation .you cannot have it both ways .When you can work out which it is you may be able to to have faith .At the moment you appear confused about what you do believe.I hope and pray that you can find clarity without contradiction
@@davidmccarroll8274 nope. No where have I contradicted myself. You just are misunderstanding about redemption and salvation and exactly what the scriptures mean about "works".
Tell me what you think redemption was. Tell me why Paul says work out your *_own salvation_* with fear and trembling. Tell me why James says faith without works is dead, it is no faith at all. Tell me why we're told that believing is not enough (demons believe yet they shudder) and that many who say "Lord, Lord" will not get eternal salvation. They were redeemed btw. The *_works of the OT Mosaic Laws_* cannot merit our eternal salvation. Read properly. Amen
@@c.Ichthys The easiest way I can explain what I believe is simple .We are saved by grace through faith in what Jesus did on the cross .End of done deal .We have to receive the grace through faith .After that we are filled with the holy spirit The holy spirit renews our mind so that we have a heart that wants to please god .I do my good works out of love for god ( my motivation ) in response to his love and grace on the cross . I do not do anything out of a sense of need to earn or a sense of duty .My life is about love for god and following his holy spirit in what to think and do and say and when to keep quiet.I live with the peace that surpasses understanding of which I have had for the past 20 years after living without god before .If and when I make a mistake I begin to loose my peace .I hate loosing my peace .As soon as I repent and apologize to God direct I get my peace back .True Christianity is a direct relationship with god through the holy spirit following his lead A loving relationship between god and those who choose him .all the best god bless !!!
@@davidmccarroll8274 (1) thank you for your reply. I see that you are mistaken about Jesus's death upon the cross. The "done deal" to use your words, was when Jesus took upon His sinless body and soul ALL the sins of the world in order to redeem ALL humans: past, present and future. That is not salvation. Redeem means to buy back; purchase another's debt (they pay the price) and free the person from prison/slavery. As scripture declares, the wage/price for sin is death (eternal separation from God, in hell). This debt was so great, an eternal sin, that no human could ever earn or purchase their freedom from “prison”; being slaves to sin and cut off from God. So by His blood and death, everyone is redeemed, unconditionally. Now, not everyone is saved. Salvation is conditional: It is freely offered, a gift, that *must be accepted and requires obedience to Jesus's teachings/commandments.* His words as recorded in the bible.
If Jesus came back today he would scratch his head and say I don't recognise any of this..I am Jewish..which way to the synagogue..amen
Lol. No Jesus would not say that. Jesus is the Word made flesh, Son of God, the I AM. He was born into the lineage of King David as well as the Levitical Priesthood of Aaron. Jesus is the New Covenant, and the baptized are called Christians. Amen
First to comment!
Church history is zero authority. Even in the first days of the church there was iniquity. Most of pauls writings address these issues. I put my trust in Jesus the spiritual bread of life.
The One, Holy,Catholic and Apostolic Church does have authority as established by Jesus the King, and Shepherd. Jesus gave to Cephas (Rock/Peter) the keys to the kingdom of heaven, (the Royal Steward now) which symbolizes complete authority to rule, govern and make decisions in place of the king. It is a lifetime office which is then passed on to the next successor when the Royal Steward dies (or becomes incapacitated). Not only that, in John 21:15-17 Jesus our Shepherd of shepherds delegated to Peter (and his successors) the role of Shepherd on earth over Jesus's flock of believers (baptized sheep and lambs).
39:55 You have done yourself and your intended audience a disservice by equating this type of Anti-Catholicism with Fundamentalism.
Meanwhile, one piece of refutation, whether to the "Death Cookie" or to "Forbidden Book" that I missed is, asking such people the question "where did the real Church go in the meantime?"
29:00 You said the church that christ established.
No he did not establish a church..he was a Jewish preacher and remained so all his life...he wanted to reform some aspects of his Jewish faith. Sr Paul who came on the seen afterwards was the main driver to start a new religion by letting in non Jews..amen
Jesus founded the ONE true Catholic Church Matt 16:18
Nope, you're wrong. Jesus said "I will build my Church upon Cephas (Aramaic means Rock and translated into English is Peter). Jesus is the builder and the first essential cornerstone laid upon the foundation of the Apostles and prophets, with Simon bar Jonah as the Rock upon which Jesus built His Church. Jesus also delegated upon Peter the office of the shepherd over Jesus's flock of believers (sheep and lambs) to feed and tend in the visible Sheepfold of Jesus which is The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
At the last supper Jesus said this is my body and again taking a cup said this is my blood but it is still bread and wine but look it is spirtual body and blood it is still his body and blood because he said so
and
Jesus said it is His true Flesh and true Blood. Not a symbol. Real.
Your time would be much better spent answering modernist attacks on the liturgy.
Jesus said "It is finished!"
Not
It is consummated.
For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
*Nor yet that he should offer himself often* as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
*For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world* but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
So *Christ was ONCE OFFERED to bear the sins of many* and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
{Hebrews 9:24-28}
Your unholy mass is an abomination unto God, for it denies the sufficiency of Christ one perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world.
Not Scriptural whatsoever.its tradition plan and simple
2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold to the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word or our epistle