It sounds like John at Stripe was very good at identifying what outcomes customers were looking for and bringing attention back to that rather than outputs. Was interesting to hear that.
20:10 the twitter prediction is spot-on: "unless something terrible happens". Listening to this nine months later and looking back, well it kinda had happened.
04:03 Shreyah upbringing and path into product management 14:12 Lessons from working at Stripe, Twitter, Google and Yahoo 27:12 How pre-mortem meetings impacted the culture at Stripe 33:23 What are the best practices in running a pre-mortem meeting 39:27 The LNO framework: What is it and how did it change Shreyas went about his day 48:06 The two-step tactic you can apply to overcome procrastination on important tasks 53:19 The three levels of product work and which level you should optimise 56:46 How might these product work levels cause conflict or influence your company culture 1:03:43 Common types of problems hiding behind the execution label 1:05:14 Two traits you need to identify a fake execution problem 1:13:10 The pitfall of ROI thinking 1:21:03 What is opportunity-cost thinking and how can you apply it?
I love this episode! The pre-mortem, LNO and three layers of product work are super useful tools! I recently quit my PM job because of the false execution issues and focus on ROI culture of the company. Hearing these problems presented in a structured way crystallized the reasons behind many of the symptoms I saw. Thank you for sharing your wisdom Shreyas! Lenny, you are so good at this! You asked every single question I had in my mind when following the conversation. Thank you 🙏
Wow. Very insightful. I am currently working in a org where re-orgs keep happening every 2 years because leadership don't know what they want. It's very clear that it's a strategy/culture problem.
I loved this. Being a PM is hard, so hard. Sometimes i think about giving all up... but i continue, and try to grow, learn and improve. This Podcast, and the way, the way in which Shreyas talked about this real and not theoretical stuff that just happens day to day in our jobs was awesome and heartwarming to hear.
What a nice and intense conversation, how Lenny runs it and how Shreyas joyfully answered every question taking it as an opportunity to enligten the audience, gives me a feeling that I will get better applying these ideas and techniques very soon. This is a good example outcome of Intent driven leadership where creativity and innovation are encouraged in word and in action and at heart.
Getting to this a bit late but so many gems here that was relatable. The most relatable was LNO concept. It reminded me of scenarios when the managers were incapable of understanding all tasks are not created equal and exhaust their teams by sending them to chase 10 things in 10 direction. This concept is good to teach in leadership lessons
Great podcast; Highly informative, authentic. Shreyas drives the point (quoting real-life examples) so lucidly with such clarity. In many hi-tech and modern enterprises conflicts, misalignments crop up even though every team tries its' best to excel. So much of blame-game, pointing fingers, and constant firefighting can be avoided and eliminated if the top leadership is cognizant of these issues.
Keep doing these podcast, one day you'll break your equilibrium of growth and grow exponentially.....Untill then these podcasts are reserved for thinkers like us. Good work dude
A very good explanation. Thanks. Since you worked for Stripe, I reccomand an assay : Schlep Blindness - Paul Graham. Paul's assays are very good to understand the way Stripe's founders went, till they got a product , and hided a PM.
Just a suggestion to add the key phrases in the video. I love the podcast with subtitles on but would be great if Intro can have the words pop-up. You got a soothing voice Lenny. Good luck!
Thanks Lenny for creating this video. Great to see two of my favorite PM legends.
I am wondering If I can get your thoughts on this - I recently discovered product management but my impression so far is that I can be paid well (sweet sweet tech salary), don't need to code, don't need any special certifications/MBA/MS Computer Science (or any specific degrees for that matter) or specific experiences. Seems too good to be true. Wondering if I am missing something?
In my experience, it’s the accountability. You set the direction and strategy for your product (making sure it’s aligned with the overall strategy). If your team works on the wrong thing, or or a small list of okay things but not the thing your product or customer needs, that’s on the PM. The PM has let down the team, the product, the company. And some PMs do code, some do design but it’s more that as PM you need to know enough about all aspects that impact your product to be able to decide on a coherent strategy, know what the teams priorities should be, and know what is right for the product.
It sounds like John at Stripe was very good at identifying what outcomes customers were looking for and bringing attention back to that rather than outputs. Was interesting to hear that.
20:10 the twitter prediction is spot-on: "unless something terrible happens". Listening to this nine months later and looking back, well it kinda had happened.
great point!
04:03 Shreyah upbringing and path into product management
14:12 Lessons from working at Stripe, Twitter, Google and Yahoo
27:12 How pre-mortem meetings impacted the culture at Stripe
33:23 What are the best practices in running a pre-mortem meeting
39:27 The LNO framework: What is it and how did it change Shreyas went about his day
48:06 The two-step tactic you can apply to overcome procrastination on important tasks
53:19 The three levels of product work and which level you should optimise
56:46 How might these product work levels cause conflict or influence your company culture
1:03:43 Common types of problems hiding behind the execution label
1:05:14 Two traits you need to identify a fake execution problem
1:13:10 The pitfall of ROI thinking
1:21:03 What is opportunity-cost thinking and how can you apply it?
I love this episode! The pre-mortem, LNO and three layers of product work are super useful tools! I recently quit my PM job because of the false execution issues and focus on ROI culture of the company. Hearing these problems presented in a structured way crystallized the reasons behind many of the symptoms I saw. Thank you for sharing your wisdom Shreyas! Lenny, you are so good at this! You asked every single question I had in my mind when following the conversation. Thank you 🙏
LNO framework is on point. I am going to focus on the leverage tasks rather than the neutral and overhead tasks.
Wow. Very insightful. I am currently working in a org where re-orgs keep happening every 2 years because leadership don't know what they want. It's very clear that it's a strategy/culture problem.
Ooh to be a Shreyas in my lifetime… 🤍
Listening in 2024. Shreyas is really insightful 👍🏽👍🏽
This podcast is sheer gold. Thanks to Shreyas for the insights and Lenny for conducting a wonderful interview. Loved it!
I loved this. Being a PM is hard, so hard. Sometimes i think about giving all up... but i continue, and try to grow, learn and improve. This Podcast, and the way, the way in which Shreyas talked about this real and not theoretical stuff that just happens day to day in our jobs was awesome and heartwarming to hear.
This is one of the best episodes and thoroughly enjoyed all the nuggets of insights shared.
What a nice and intense conversation, how Lenny runs it and how Shreyas joyfully answered every question taking it as an opportunity to enligten the audience, gives me a feeling that I will get better applying these ideas and techniques very soon.
This is a good example outcome of Intent driven leadership where creativity and innovation are encouraged in word and in action and at heart.
Getting to this a bit late but so many gems here that was relatable. The most relatable was LNO concept. It reminded me of scenarios when the managers were incapable of understanding all tasks are not created equal and exhaust their teams by sending them to chase 10 things in 10 direction. This concept is good to teach in leadership lessons
Great podcast; Highly informative, authentic. Shreyas drives the point (quoting real-life examples) so lucidly with such clarity. In many hi-tech and modern enterprises conflicts, misalignments crop up even though every team tries its' best to excel. So much of blame-game, pointing fingers, and constant firefighting can be avoided and eliminated if the top leadership is cognizant of these issues.
Simply pearls of wisdom, backed by real world insights and anecdotes !!
Keep doing these podcast, one day you'll break your equilibrium of growth and grow exponentially.....Untill then these podcasts are reserved for thinkers like us. Good work dude
I can’t imagine that Lenny hasn’t hit exponential growth, I mean, are there PMs who don’t listen to Lenny or read his newsletters??
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Top 20% dev then he switched 🙆🏽♂️.
Probably turned out well but top 20% software engineer in Silicon Valley is a pretty hectic achievement
This is a helpful perspective to hear as I’m working on a transition into product. Thanks Lenny and Shreyas!
Simply perfect speaker and video material. Lenny - great podcast! Thank you!!!
Thank you!
A very good explanation. Thanks. Since you worked for Stripe, I reccomand an assay : Schlep Blindness - Paul Graham. Paul's assays are very good to understand the way Stripe's founders went, till they got a product , and hided a PM.
He is sooo me!
Spot ON!! So much stuff he talks about resonates. I learned so much. Thanks @Shreyas and @Lenny
Thanks you so much for sharing these insights. This is definitely helpful for someone like me who is new to PM.
This is a gold mine!
This podcast is so great even the ad products could be helpful and smth new to check)
Just a suggestion to add the key phrases in the video. I love the podcast with subtitles on but would be great if Intro can have the words pop-up. You got a soothing voice Lenny. Good luck!
This was amazing! I'll have to watch this multiple times, so much great insight. Thank you, super helpful for an APM looking to elevate their career
Great Stuff. It is all great music to my ears. Thanks Lenny for taking time to host Shreyas and initiate this great podcast
Shreyas is so insightful
Currently going through a career segue and your podcast is really helpful. Thank you so much.
Excellent! Great work Lenny.
Another Expert Host 🥳 Thanx a. Lot " LR " - Learn from Lenny Rachitsky Podcast "... Very useful
Loved it! Very insightful and thought provoking
Very informative interview.. Thank you Lenny!
Great podcast. Enjoyed a lot 🙌
Amazing thoughts. Added a lot of value
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Top class episode
Nice Job Lenny. Very helpful content 💪
If you Want get a competitive advantage over peer PMs, Listen carefully to this
Amazing content
Thanks Lenny for creating this video. Great to see two of my favorite PM legends.
I am wondering If I can get your thoughts on this - I recently discovered product management but my impression so far is that I can be paid well (sweet sweet tech salary), don't need to code, don't need any special certifications/MBA/MS Computer Science (or any specific degrees for that matter) or specific experiences.
Seems too good to be true. Wondering if I am missing something?
In my experience, it’s the accountability. You set the direction and strategy for your product (making sure it’s aligned with the overall strategy).
If your team works on the wrong thing, or or a small list of okay things but not the thing your product or customer needs, that’s on the PM. The PM has let down the team, the product, the company.
And some PMs do code, some do design but it’s more that as PM you need to know enough about all aspects that impact your product to be able to decide on a coherent strategy, know what the teams priorities should be, and know what is right for the product.
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I'd like to start a career in product management but I have no tech background. Is a tech background absolutely necessary?
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How are there so few comments?
But he doesn’t give specific examples
If he'd move today, it'd take him 17 years to get a green card. Unless he walks across the border.
bhai hindi bol le
learn English bhai! You want this man who works in the U.S to speak in Hindi as a response to English questions lol
kuch bhi
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