I need this after breaking my hand at the last drop off. Today I'll attempt my first ride after five weeks in the cast, wish me luck guys! Thanks GMBN for always reading our minds :)
Sorry Neil, something extra to mention. I noticed in your technique something that is also important to maintain speed and control immediately after the drop. Just after your rear wheel leaves the drop you bring your body back to center (relative to the slope of the landing) before you land.
Drop offs pretty much got me started riding bikes. Neighborhood mostly just had cruiser bikes at the time. Chipped my front tooth on cousin's cruiser on a drop off. About a week later got my first bike. 83 Team Murry X20R BMX! Been riding ever since. Such fond memories of mine despite the dirt naps that made me snaggled toothed as a kid.
What I learnt from joy of bike and Kyle and April Get really low and centre on your bike , and just ride off it with good speed Also it's better to land a tiny bit front wheel first , cuz if you land rear wheel first you might loop out or the bars get slammed out of your hands
Excellent video. Hit my first surprise drop off today. Small one. I just sort of instinctively did what you’re showing, but thought I’d better watch this. Thanks
I've been trying and practicing slowly with 1 foot and 2 foot drop off, sometimes are nice, sometimes it hurts my shoulder. but it really requires a lot of confidence.
I would guess that if your shoulders are hurting your bars are probably dragging you downward and giving your torso a little bit of whiplash. The more evenly you can get your wheels to come off of the drop, the less whip there is. Instead it should just feel like you're jumping off of the ledge with your legs and landing on your hands and feet, nice and even.
You neglected to mention that it's important to get your weight neutral before your rear tire hits the ground. The video shows it but beginners might not realize that they shouldn't keep their weight back once their rear tire leaves the edge of the drop.
I just started riding mtb after riding fixies. I've been using the street to teach me some stuff. I hit speed bumps to practice getting a bit of air and curbs for beginner drop offs. It rained like hell this weekend so I can't wait until everything dries up so I can start transitioning to the trail and seeing what I've learned correctly and what needs work.
Thank you, you make it look so easy, practise it near a school where I live and seem to have it sorted but when I come across smaller ones on the trail I tend to bottle it 😕
That drop on Bonneyville is much, much larger than anything you'll normally find on a UK red trail, BPW are obsessed with big drops everywhere. That dropoff was originally half the size but they've let it get bigger and bigger without changing the grade. I hate drops.
Their 'red' drops are much more like 'blacks' at nearly all other UK trail centres. The basic technique that Neil demonstrated should be adequate for nearly all red trails (except BPW).
Strange how we are completely missing the technique that is similar to dropping into a near-vert ramp. Essentially that is letting the front wheel starting to drop, while hopping the rear just over the lip/edge. Works best for steep landing where the "manual approach" would result in landing much deeper into the landing. Dropping into a short landing or into a corner would not allow to manual into the drop.
Great technique for the right situation. But way too advanced for newer riders that will likely lead to them bitin it bad, and really limited on most trails I’ve seen. Altho you can practice the hell out of it at any skatepark.
If you watch the other guys videos from GMBN you would think all Neil does is crash. They love to use footage of Neil wipin' out to show how not to do a move.
Confused much, a bunch of other videos say do not drive back at the hips before you roll off, but recommend you stay low over the front bars , with hips neutral over the bottom bracket and then drive the front wheel towards the ground soon as you clear the lip of the jump. Then other videos recommend you use a pop off technique to push on the suspension and then pop off as you leave the lip of the jump. Can anyone clear up this variety of techniques? Maybe the youtube channels have gotten together to create this confusion just so they have more material for fails and bails :-)
Hi I'm just wondering about the technique where you compress the suspension front and rear and let go in front first and then the back. Is used together with leaning back? I'm a bit confused so I do something in the middle 🤣
There are litteraly thousands of drop-off tutorials on youtube, but not one single one of them mention the only problem I have: To keep my feet attached to the pedals (with flats). No matter how I do, at a certain height (~waist), I can often feel my feet "landing on the pedals" a fraction of a second after the bike hits the ground. It's really scary and unpredictable and no one I've spoken to can explain why, and no one else on the planet seems to have the same problem. WTF am I doing wrong? Actually, the problem gets much lesser if I land front wheel slightly before the rear, but that doesn't work too well when height is increasing. Especially not to flat, but that's what the drops around here are.
Try and video it, i bet your hips are quite high when you are going off the drop. Try to stay low to your rear tyre on the front wheel lift and your feet shouldnt leave the pedals
Any thoughts about riding drops on a gravel bike? It's not something I was planning on doing when I got the bike, but I'm running into lots of small drops on trails that are otherwise rideable.
Do these skills differ at all for doing the same thing on a hard tail? I notice on the bigger drops the full susp bike really soaks up a lot of shock. Do you simply have to rely on soaking it into your body or does the landing technique differ altogether?
If you are dropping to flat, landing rear wheel first by a considerable amount will place your body in a better position to absorb the impact. Though if you are going at speed, I wouldn't recommend it as that is suited better for low speed impacts such as in trials. But if you aren't accustomed to drops, landing rear wheel first by a tiny amount will give you some margin of error so that you don't land front wheel first. It's almost always better to land a bit rear wheel first versus front wheel first. However, landing both wheels first on the majority of drops will be much smoother. But only start doing that once you become more comfortable with drops.
Only problem is if your run out isn’t long. I have a lot of drops like this in my area- drop then immediately into a hard left or right hander. Then you gotta slow it down and manual it.
i done my first ever (small) drop offs last week! gonna keep practising small ones for a while before i progress!. {Shameless plug} i've done a video showing me trying them on my channel! lol
A little point for this videos camera man. Please try to avoid filming with the sun in front of the camera man. Many parts were with moderator having the sun in his back.
I feel this video would be more helpful if Neil coached someone through their first drop off, such as a curb. Focus on the title of the video, which is the first drop off, instead of going on to discuss harder drop offs. This way us newbie’s could actually learn something. This is my complaint with most GMBN “how to” videos.
These GMBN videos all seem to show riders pushing their weight too far back and riding off the drop with straight arms. That's bad technique because if the front wheel drops you have no way to adjust. Stay centred over the bike and make sure you have some bend in your arms!
I'd like to see a video with a 'true' drop off, you know, one that is high and you can't gap it but have to ride the face of the drop. I want to know how I 'drop in' and ride this out 👍
Just thinking you should have hit that last one fast, slower and slowest to show the difference and explain how you end up with a longer bigger drop in each case.
No issues with assembly for me ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L but I could see where some might benefit from using an experienced bike assembler/mechanic. I'm an older rider starting back after a 10 year break. This bike exceeds my capabilities and has been easy to get comfortable riding. I'm mostly on easy trails with almost no street riding and have not been disappointed with the performance of the bike. My fitness level is far below what I previously rode with and because of that the mileage is going on the bike slowly. While I'm losing weight slowly, the bike seems to tolerate my 220 pounds just fine. The bike has been used by several family members ranging from 5'5" - 5'9".
damn, i hate when guides like this come out, i like when the good riders give the advice of "pre-load" a newbie tries it.. timing wrong and instant flung over the bars... i see it all the time "oh that good rider told me to do it like this" That's 100% a good rider not giving advice of whats actually happening and generally comes from "naturally talented" riders.
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I need this after breaking my hand at the last drop off. Today I'll attempt my first ride after five weeks in the cast, wish me luck guys! Thanks GMBN for always reading our minds :)
you got this bro
Thanks mate, you stay save out there guys
They did the same thing to me I also crashed and broke my finger on a drop off last week.
Hey, I'm in a cast after breaking both arms a few days ago on a drop.
@@Daniel-td1kr oh man. Cant recon how complicated this must be in "some" situations. Poor you
Sorry Neil, something extra to mention. I noticed in your technique something that is also important to maintain speed and control immediately after the drop. Just after your rear wheel leaves the drop you bring your body back to center (relative to the slope of the landing) before you land.
Neil has some mad skills I'm glad you are here to help us along. Thanks!
Drop offs pretty much got me started riding bikes. Neighborhood mostly just had cruiser bikes at the time. Chipped my front tooth on cousin's cruiser on a drop off. About a week later got my first bike. 83 Team Murry X20R BMX! Been riding ever since. Such fond memories of mine despite the dirt naps that made me snaggled toothed as a kid.
Could you do a beginners guide on road gaps please? :-)
Do not attempt if a beginner.
they have about 20 videos on it already this channel is just recycled content
@@wilsarno eeerrr......theres always a first time lol
@@rsmithuk Just send it, you’ll be fine...
I think you’re on the wrong channel...
What I learnt from joy of bike and Kyle and April
Get really low and centre on your bike , and just ride off it with good speed
Also it's better to land a tiny bit front wheel first , cuz if you land rear wheel first you might loop out or the bars get slammed out of your hands
I love drops!! Neil you explained them very effectively. Love GMBN !!
Keep em coming!!
Really good one, thanks Neil! This was exactly what I needed today. Hope to see more GMBN Get Riding videos in a near future!
Excellent video. Hit my first surprise drop off today. Small one. I just sort of instinctively did what you’re showing, but thought I’d better watch this. Thanks
I've been trying and practicing slowly with 1 foot and 2 foot drop off, sometimes are nice, sometimes it hurts my shoulder. but it really requires a lot of confidence.
I would guess that if your shoulders are hurting your bars are probably dragging you downward and giving your torso a little bit of whiplash.
The more evenly you can get your wheels to come off of the drop, the less whip there is. Instead it should just feel like you're jumping off of the ledge with your legs and landing on your hands and feet, nice and even.
If you stay looser on the bike and compress into it when you land it helps to absorb the impact and stop you hurting your shoulder hopefully 👍
For some reason im obsessed with the color of that Canyon, love it.
You neglected to mention that it's important to get your weight neutral before your rear tire hits the ground. The video shows it but beginners might not realize that they shouldn't keep their weight back once their rear tire leaves the edge of the drop.
Great episode Neil!! Thank you!
about a week ago i hit my first drop, which was about 60cm tall. i wish i had these tips earlier because i did not have the cleanest landing.
I just started riding mtb after riding fixies. I've been using the street to teach me some stuff. I hit speed bumps to practice getting a bit of air and curbs for beginner drop offs.
It rained like hell this weekend so I can't wait until everything dries up so I can start transitioning to the trail and seeing what I've learned correctly and what needs work.
Thanls for the teachings Neil and GMBN team! 😃👍
Thank you, you make it look so easy, practise it near a school where I live and seem to have it sorted but when I come across smaller ones on the trail I tend to bottle it 😕
That drop on Bonneyville is much, much larger than anything you'll normally find on a UK red trail, BPW are obsessed with big drops everywhere. That dropoff was originally half the size but they've let it get bigger and bigger without changing the grade.
I hate drops.
Their 'red' drops are much more like 'blacks' at nearly all other UK trail centres. The basic technique that Neil demonstrated should be adequate for nearly all red trails (except BPW).
Strange how we are completely missing the technique that is similar to dropping into a near-vert ramp.
Essentially that is letting the front wheel starting to drop, while hopping the rear just over the lip/edge.
Works best for steep landing where the "manual approach" would result in landing much deeper into the landing.
Dropping into a short landing or into a corner would not allow to manual into the drop.
Great technique for the right situation. But way too advanced for newer riders that will likely lead to them bitin it bad, and really limited on most trails I’ve seen. Altho you can practice the hell out of it at any skatepark.
If you watch the other guys videos from GMBN you would think all Neil does is crash. They love to use footage of Neil wipin' out to show how not to do a move.
More of this please!
Confused much, a bunch of other videos say do not drive back at the hips before you roll off, but recommend you stay low over the front bars , with hips neutral over the bottom bracket and then drive the front wheel towards the ground soon as you clear the lip of the jump. Then other videos recommend you use a pop off technique to push on the suspension and then pop off as you leave the lip of the jump. Can anyone clear up this variety of techniques?
Maybe the youtube channels have gotten together to create this confusion just so they have more material for fails and bails :-)
It seems no matter what I crash on I always seem to go over the bars lol thanks for the video
Amazing.
Thanks Neil...I definitely " want to look less stupid" , as it is an issue ! Be safe .
Hi I'm just wondering about the technique where you compress the suspension front and rear and let go in front first and then the back. Is used together with leaning back? I'm a bit confused so I do something in the middle 🤣
There are litteraly thousands of drop-off tutorials on youtube, but not one single one of them mention the only problem I have: To keep my feet attached to the pedals (with flats). No matter how I do, at a certain height (~waist), I can often feel my feet "landing on the pedals" a fraction of a second after the bike hits the ground. It's really scary and unpredictable and no one I've spoken to can explain why, and no one else on the planet seems to have the same problem. WTF am I doing wrong?
Actually, the problem gets much lesser if I land front wheel slightly before the rear, but that doesn't work too well when height is increasing. Especially not to flat, but that's what the drops around here are.
Try and video it, i bet your hips are quite high when you are going off the drop. Try to stay low to your rear tyre on the front wheel lift and your feet shouldnt leave the pedals
great skill session! you all are always so good at instruction.
Get your camera sensor cleaned :D
Superb video as always :)
Thx
Greetings from borneo🇮🇩🤟
Neil what pants are you warring in video?
They look like the Dainese HG Pants 1.
Awesome
Would i be right in thinking you more or less land where you are looking??
Need more side-on shots!
*The 5 stitches on my shin made me click on this video*
Where is this filmed?
Edit: its bike park wales. I recognised the drop offs from last year. I did the larger one very badly.
Are you sure this is Wales? I can see a very big amount of sunlight there...
He said it was wales
@@itchyprince3793 He did. Im fairly certain Mr Firelord was joking
Big drop is Bonneyville and I think the small one is Surfin Bird?
@gmbn clean your camera sensor it has some spots.
Okay Mr. 4K 🙄
Came here to make sure someone advised :)
Nice 👍👍, my new frend👍❤
Any thoughts about riding drops on a gravel bike? It's not something I was planning on doing when I got the bike, but I'm running into lots of small drops on trails that are otherwise rideable.
thx from chile
Can you guys do drops with no run up?
New vid less goooooooooooo
Do these skills differ at all for doing the same thing on a hard tail? I notice on the bigger drops the full susp bike really soaks up a lot of shock. Do you simply have to rely on soaking it into your body or does the landing technique differ altogether?
Nice
Across the pond we just call them 'drops'. ; )
Do "slide the bike forward" (3:45). Don't manual off drops (6:45), unless you're truly a pro at manuals.
I am going to stick to burns and wheels on the ground
I need a tutorial for riding stairs, last time wasnt a success 😂
Just lean back and roll down them, not too much to them lol
Agree with Neb. And stay away from the front brake. Lol
It was more meant to be a joke but yeah 👍🏻
When going off a drop should the rear wheel strike the ground first on a hardtail?
If you are dropping to flat, landing rear wheel first by a considerable amount will place your body in a better position to absorb the impact. Though if you are going at speed, I wouldn't recommend it as that is suited better for low speed impacts such as in trials.
But if you aren't accustomed to drops, landing rear wheel first by a tiny amount will give you some margin of error so that you don't land front wheel first. It's almost always better to land a bit rear wheel first versus front wheel first.
However, landing both wheels first on the majority of drops will be much smoother. But only start doing that once you become more comfortable with drops.
I dind them scary if I slow down or think about it - fine if I just hit them with a bit of pace !
100% faster is better then rolling as long as you have a exit
Yeah, if you’re going fast enough you don’t even see the drop until you’ve gone over it and by then it’s too late to bottle it
Only problem is if your run out isn’t long. I have a lot of drops like this in my area- drop then immediately into a hard left or right hander. Then you gotta slow it down and manual it.
Everything looks steeper and scarier in real life than it does on camera.
i done my first ever (small) drop offs last week! gonna keep practising small ones for a while before i progress!. {Shameless plug} i've done a video showing me trying them on my channel! lol
A little point for this videos camera man. Please try to avoid filming with the sun in front of the camera man. Many parts were with moderator having the sun in his back.
Also needed to make sure someone pointed this out :)
what brand is that pants?
been doinf them for over 20 years amd yet still I click
So can i still do that with axis hardtail; cause i have a axis hardtail
Would you guys like to feature a women MTB rider on your channel?
hi
my main problem is going in to drops with a slow speed
I feel this video would be more helpful if Neil coached someone through their first drop off, such as a curb. Focus on the title of the video, which is the first drop off, instead of going on to discuss harder drop offs. This way us newbie’s could actually learn something. This is my complaint with most GMBN “how to” videos.
haven't they already done this video?
I displace a big problem in mountain bikes
or as I call them - "walk offs" 😂
guys, what is the model of the CANYON?
Spectral 29 CF 9.0
These GMBN videos all seem to show riders pushing their weight too far back and riding off the drop with straight arms. That's bad technique because if the front wheel drops you have no way to adjust. Stay centred over the bike and make sure you have some bend in your arms!
I'd like to see a video with a 'true' drop off, you know, one that is high and you can't gap it but have to ride the face of the drop. I want to know how I 'drop in' and ride this out 👍
First one mabe, Second one, No chance, I'm just too scared.
What pants are you wearing 👖
Mind of a 14 year old body of a70 year old mind always wins yewww🤙🏼
Are they chain ring marks on the rock 😂😂😂
First
Just thinking you should have hit that last one fast, slower and slowest to show the difference and explain how you end up with a longer bigger drop in each case.
I can recommend People to take mtb clinics to learn these techniques. In 4 hours i do bigger drops than People who are riding for years
No issues with assembly for me ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L but I could see where some might benefit from using an experienced bike assembler/mechanic. I'm an older rider starting back after a 10 year break. This bike exceeds my capabilities and has been easy to get comfortable riding. I'm mostly on easy trails with almost no street riding and have not been disappointed with the performance of the bike. My fitness level is far below what I previously rode with and because of that the mileage is going on the bike slowly. While I'm losing weight slowly, the bike seems to tolerate my 220 pounds just fine. The bike has been used by several family members ranging from 5'5" - 5'9".
More regurgitated content? Why is this becoming a new trend for ya?
A tutorial on drop off? All I was told was “follow me”
damn, i hate when guides like this come out, i like when the good riders give the advice of "pre-load" a newbie tries it.. timing wrong and instant flung over the bars...
i see it all the time "oh that good rider told me to do it like this" That's 100% a good rider not giving advice of whats actually happening and generally comes from "naturally talented" riders.
*pushes front wheel down off edge of drop* wonders what went wrong?! Ehehe
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I have plenty of shredding videos and just started a channel and one of the few women who ride, would you guys like to feature me?
How about an global MTB giveaway? I bet many people would like it.
Prvi
And wear a full-face helmet.
We are the first 5 people to comment
Dont try this at your late 40's...it hurt like hell!
Meh, only if you botch it. LOL. 49!
Just point and shoot... 🤷♂️😂
That is my current technique and I guess I am an OTB blackbelt. 😂
can GMBN giveaway a mtb
Second
neil is that a little belly i see there?
how do these videos get views they’ve made this video 10 times
Eighth
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Please do the Arabic translation