FMCSA Updates | Speed Limiters, Automatic Braking System, New Entry Testing
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- FMCSA Updates | Speed Limiters, Automatic Braking System, New Entry Testing
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TRUCKERS, LISTEN UP!!
In this video, Ronen reviews and breaks down the newest proposed regulations from the FMCSA that affect the trucking industry as a whole, and gives his personal opinion on these updates and how they might or might not be efficient for the industry.
What do you think of these regulations? Do you have a different opinion than Ronen, or do you agree?? Leave your comments below and let's talk about it!
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction- FMCSA regulations 2023
00:33 FMCSA exists to improve road safety
01:15 New entry knowledge test
01:30 Testing to ensure you are knowledgeable on safety & compliance
01:45 To become a truck driver you need a LICENSE
02:24 Trucking speed limiters, do they work?
02:43 Every truck is governed at 65 MPH
03:27 Speed limiters help lower crash rates in trucking
03:56 Trucking and FUEL efficiency
04:15 Having a truck speed limiter will save you money on fuel
04:25 Truck speed limiters & reduced emissions
04:43 Newer trucks pollute less than older trucks
05:50 Broker & freight forwarder financial responsibility
06:18 To become a freight forwarder in the USA you need a bond
07:27 Trucking automated emergency braking system
07:45 REAL STORY on automatic braking system experience with semi trucks
08:50 Who would be liable for an automatic braking system accident?
09:27 Trucking safety fitness procedures
09:37 What FMCSA categorizes for fleet safety score
10:00 What I think FMCSA should be judging on
10:39 Problems with trucking E-LOGS
11:40 Suggestion for FMCSA safety checks in trucking
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The FMCSA only cares about the kickbacks the mega carriers give them to establish rules that push out smaller operations.
TRUE DAT!!!
yup they are definitely gunning for owner operators !
This is true in every industry. More government bureaucratic regulation always means more corruption. Freedom in the marketplace is never a bad thing.
The purpose of all this is not security, it is to reach into the pockets and take the little money left over from truckers.
The actual reason for this, I think, is to begin shutting down small companies and single Owner operators, because it is much easier to control larger companies or mega carriers.
These are the first baby steps of many to come.
@@GrdDogthe eld training is to deter new owner ops, not current ones. As current ones are exempt from eldt stuff. So I disagree with your statement. Although it doesnt mean I agree with the eldt stuff.
@@kydon1236 depends on the year of the truck not the term length of the driver; the mandate states "2000 or earlier would be exempt from using an ELD" I don't know many that are running 23 year old trucks.
@@GrdDog no.... eldt is entry level driver training..... smh not vehicle governs... LOL or what you think it to be being electronic log devices xD
@@kydon1236 I skipped the "t" at the end and yes went right to ELD "Electronic Log Device"; what I think to be electronic log devices is a thing; I know it all to well.
But back to training; yeah new drivers having proper training on the aspects of trucking should be more than they are currently; because things are changing so rapidly. Here is an example; I recently met a brand new driver, was with a trainer for 3 whole weeks and could not back his truck up to a dock with three empty spaces on each side, wtf, and then there are all the electronics and computers involved in operating the truck, that driver should be trained on also.
I have an A.S and 2 Bachelors degrees in IT programming and security; I have a hard time with ELD's and truck computers, I can only imagine if a driver had to do anything in that aspect to get rolling and have only bare knowledge, could easily become a clusterf(*k of major proportions.
The only thing I don’t agree with really is the speed limiters. I primarily drive the western US and a lot of these states have speed limits of 80 MPH. If trucks are limited to 65 I think that causes more of a Hazard. It can also lead to more road rage incidents because people driving cars could get stuck behind these trucks and lose their temper. I see it all the time in California where the truck speed limit is 55 13:07
The safest speed on the road was always a traffic speed, I'm surprised Ronen doesn't know that. Whatever he was talking about would probably be true if no one else would be driving there.
He said it. He's not a driver. Until he is, he should sit down & let the drivers drive. A governed truck runs longer, so it's polluting longer.
I took drive in the western states and see road rage all of the time. Luckily, our trucks go 70mph on the pedal and 72mph on cruise. The main thing causing accidents is that drivers aren't paying attention or tiredness.
@@Funk1880 Hey, he's the one who mentioned pollution. Watch the video again.
Ya but rarely do I see trucks driving 80 and above even if the truck is ungoverned....
1 for fuel mileage
2 saftey
There needs to be a way to have a no punishment inspection. Where you can voluntarily go in get them to do a full inspection audit that doesn't go against you but allows you to learn and become safer.
LOL. That probably would happen if FMCSA would actually be after safety and not after our money 😅
And to be able to do that so many times a year.
A good diesel shop with an experienced mechanic should be able to do the same type of inspection; yes it will cost you $$, but considering D.O.T does not do it for free (probably never will) and it will cost more $$, it is an easy decision for me to make.
@@josephgetno I retired D.O.T officer with a high inspection rating could make a killing in business if the person opened based on this model in the right location.
YES! It was known as a fix it ticket! This was before the mass Invasion of 3rd world savages driving our trucks.
Trucks need to be able to go to the same speed as cars. Otherwise they become a danger on the highway because they’re slow and everybody has to move around them, just like they do when they go up hills
No. Trucks need to stay in the right lane where they belong. 65 mph covers most 2 lane highways
@kskesler LOL. You've never driven a big truck and it shows. You're the type of person to think the left lane is a travel lane.
@@konigstiger8518 I drive for a living. I am simply disagreeing with the comment I replied to. The danger is trucks both traveling at 65 and trying to pass each other. Cars get impatient and people like you who clearly think they are smarter cause the accidents
No I just feel sorry for the truck drivers going up hills being sitting ducks because they can’t move at a decent speed.same on flat land.and I have driven trucks, the worst kind city delivery truck where you have to constantly watch out for cars.good luck with those slow ass trucks.
@kskesler I'm 25, have driven for 3 years and have 400k miles under my belt accident free. I drive for a company with governed trucks, trust me, if everyone was going the same speed, there would be a lot of angry people on the roads.
A alarm for get close to something is safer than auto braking that can put you in the ditch on a slick road.
It’s annoying asf also I have it and it’s not safer
The auto braking is a POS because it can activate on bridges, signs and etc.
Same for g force sensors on tilt. I'm not dangerous I know how to drive a downhill curve. I know its malfunctioning because I can do a left curve and it gets upset during right curves and I've driven for years with no tipped product and I drive produce.
Schneider had some shit trailers, and there was one time my on guard saw what I think was an exit sign, and it locked the brakes down, and the brakes on the trailer didn't release... trailer went to the shop, and I went to Walmart for some new pants
Plus the modern fleet trucks almost all come with airbag shocks under the sleeper cabs and they really sway and lean with a slightest breeze. They also activate those stupid g- force sensors for hard turning or leaning
The issue I have with automatic braking systems is sometimes they see things that aren’t there and will engage brakes for no reasons increasing the chance of an actual accident. I drive a 21 Cascadia and the system engage brakes at least once a week for no good reason.
EXACTLY.
I think there's a recall on them for that very reason, you could probably take it in and get it changed out
Mine too
Yes Sir:; I get Collision warning when nothing is in front of me
Yes me too on a icy curve on i80 in iowa autos merging onto the highway cutting into my lane setting off auto brakes and causing me stop the truck from jacknifeing into all lanes.
Speed limits need to be dropped for cars also otherwise you are just going to have more accidents because more cars are impatient than trucks and driving in California alot where the speed limit for trucks is 55 and cars is 75 it can be very hairy in many times personally it works better in states where the truck and car speeds are the same
RV's and pickups pulling trailers of any kind including campers; I personally think these drivers should have to take an extra test for a license like we do for a CDL.
The RV industry lobby is huge. They would never pass a bill for extra license for RV. This would hurt RV sales, it will never happen.
exactly!! you are obviously a truck driver speaking to a bunch of non truck drivers
Any trailer period or boats because then they might have a small understanding of what is needed when I was in high school and went to get my regular license one of the instructors brothers was an oo and he would bring in his rig to the school and they parked cars around it in the blind spots then all the kids took turns getting into the driver's seat so they understood that truck drivers can't see you everywhere in the mirrors back then we had very few accidents in and around the area
@@geraldwilson727 When I was in school we has drivers ed; that also taught backing a trailers, I mean I live in Florida 90% of houses have trailers, so we got taught real life skills in shop class that people could use to get a good paying job right away, no college needed and now most have good size companies doing all kinds of trade work. I learned to drive an old Mac with true triple lever shifters on my families ranch and then I pulled different loads or went and got them for the ranch. When I was 21 and legal to get a CDL; I did so and then when hired by a company; I stayed out for 6 months by choice, to this day I stay out 4 month's at the shortest and 6 at the longest.
The hardest part for me was the rule book and paper work, everything else inspection, backing, driving was no issue.
While I agree that slower speeds result in better fuel mileage, speed limiters haven't dropped accident rates in Ontario at all. According to the OPP there are more wrecks now than ever. One reason is ill trained drivers on the road and way too many of them running along in a conga line 10' off the truck in front of them, particularly in northern Ontario. You also see far too many of them on the four lanes taking 5-10km to pass each other too.
He's talking about believe without stats.
To many rules too much Government intervention, you can never stop accidents no matter what speed, these newer truck are much safer than what I grew up in the old school way.
You can have no accidents train the correct way shut everything down in the winter months and get rid of every single car on the highway the accidents will disappear
I find speed limiters make me a hazard on the road. I'm slow merging an 4 wheelers get pissed off we take so long to pass. My 2022 Volvo has auto brakes an are a joke. A ghost car must have been infront of me on i80 today. They just came on for no reason
Only large fleet owner would say governed trucks is a good thing. It lowers fuel bill and insurance premium.
Pass the bill for knowledge test of English written and verbal.
Put in place requirements for driver to be US citizen or permanent resident (green card)
Build more parking spaces
Create one centralized eLog system 14/14/70 with 1 hr break after first 8 hours.
Broker transparency
There’s bunch more, but it’s a good start
Screw a 1 hr hour break. I get annoyed with a 30 min break. Gotta sit there for 15 min after doing my drop switch for no reason.
Speed related accidents in trucks usually have nothing to do with top speed. It's usually too fast foe conditions or the road. You can still roll a truck on a 25 mph curve with a truck governed at 65. Otherwise we wouldn't see all these mega carriers that are governed still getting in all these accidents.
@@MegaCabMorris exactly
This guy is obviously a company guy. Of course these big carriers want speed limiters and extra tests for owner operators. It helps eliminate the competition.
If the courses are expensive, or overly complicated then less people will be able to get their own authority. And speed limiters keep owner operators from having a efficiency edge over these mega carriers.
Everyone needs to contact their congressman and senators, even if you don’t have a truck. These rules will cause prices for goods to go up, and it will open the door to speed limiters on personal vehicles.
Don’t say you haven’t been warned!!
I can say from experience that the automatic braking system isn't that great. I think the idea's good, but the execution needs improvement. The detection system will pick up on some small object like a mile marker and briefly hit the brakes, which is bad when you're going around a corner what with double momentum issues. My truck especially likes to slam on the brakes when I'm entering a truck wash. The second and bigger issue is that it activates far too closely to a stopped vehicle on the road. If you're heavy, you're still going through whatever's in front of you. If you're empty, it might slow you enough to reduce the incident to property damage and injury. Overall, I believe that the best system would be for truck drivers to always be on their toes and paying attention.
I heard a rumor that freightliner is in the middle of a class action lawsuit over onguard. I haven't looked into it myself
a friend has a 2023 truck with all that safety crap on it. His opinion is that it will cause more accidents than prevent. He has been driving since 1979, so he knows a bit about trucking.
He's right cause all that stuff does is annoy the driver. If they want a robot driving their trucks then they need to get self driving trucks.
@@lightpawshirdthey are.
When the fmcsa starts requiring these guys to pass an independent pretrip and skills test, ill give them credit for wanting the roads safer... they're just digging in everyone's pockets and using words like safety to accomplish that
I think mega carriers are just upset that they can’t compete with the speed of owner operators, govern your own fleet all you’d like. But if that’s the case govern all vehicles, it’s the four wheelers that cut us off anyway because they fly and then all of a sudden cut you off even if your driving 60 mph to get off an exit😅
Automatic braking is dangerous when going downhill in snow with a b train and the radar thinks it's going to hit something on in a 4 lane on ice in traffic, in summer its fine it sees a shadow and it hits the breaks wtv but winter is a different story
It is better to stay parked in the winter with those censor
Or just unplug it and run with a few lights on the dash instead. I haul glass and these sensors in the new Freightliners are annoying and dangerous at times due to it picking up false positives.
@@Demonoid1990 the brand new ones won't let you unplug them stop engine light comes on
I feel ABS is also dangerous on icy roads too
@@user_friendly1984. only if it's not working correctly
TL;DR for Ronen's opinion:
He's 100% in favor of more regulation in all aspects.
No thanks.
Exactly. Notice he said nothing about def!! Bet he has a delete on all his trucks.
How many roads in Canada have speed limits for cars are 75 or 80 mph but trucks are 65mph? I remember back in the '90s Schneider and JB Hunt doing almost the speed limit trying to pass each other but other trucks and cars going much faster driving up on them almost causing accidents. That wasn't safe back then and most roads have much faster speed limits now a days. Keep doing the great informative videos Ronen.
Emergency breaking systems are good, as long as they are not required on flatbeds, and WORK they way they should.
The brake systems trigger for a large road sign, shadows, jersey barriers in construction zones. Currently until the tech is greatly improved it should not be required
They don't work as they claim. I have had 4 incidents this year alone where the system slammed on the brakes for no reasons. One of those incidents nearly caused me to wreck on a downhill curve when fully loaded.
I don't care even if they require it I will challenge it in any court.
75 mph limit is reasonable, especially when you have places in the states with speed limits that are high. Honestly I used to drive a governed truck at 65 it SUCKED BALLS 😅. BUT now I can go at least 72 mph. It's not too bad and I am not stuck behind trucks going the same speed and cars interaction is less especially in the country areas. The only thing is that drivers have to pay close attention to the road, especially in the cities. If all trucks going the same speed it's too much interaction. If speed is limited 75 is not bad, but honesty we shouldn't be limited at all
My opinion you should be able to go at least the top posted speed limit of any state your in. Going the same speed as the posted limit will reduce cars road raging on you and prevent backups. It's our job to make sure we are being safe around everyone else even if it means to slow down a little for a bit. Last time I checked that's what it means to be a "Driver"
Only bad thing about driving a truck governed at 60-65 mph is that you could be capped out at max speed while cars are flying past you at 80-100 mph. There’s plenty of situations where you become a brick wall on the interstate and if anybody hits you, it’s your fault until you can prove otherwise. I’ll admit 65 is a good spot to be governed at, but some of these trucks that are capped at 50-60, that’s a nightmare waiting to happen.
Driving 65 mph as an owner operator is a goal we reach for. Real time traffic is another topic. If you need more, the operator is actively in the seat where these decisions are being made. Allow the operator to operate.
I worked with 65mph limiter. I've been stuck in a 9 pack group of trucks. All had 65mph limiter. Followed them for an hour. Very frustrating and nobody could pass. It is unsafe.
Next company was set at 70. I never had that issue. I could pass. Felt great.
Ronen, nope, I am against limiters unless 4 wheelers are the same. With so many drivers distracted by their phones, trucks limited below 4 wheelers is asking for a rear end crash. No data I know of on this just a feeling.
It’s called speed variance and it’s the reason why the fmcsa decided all trailers should have a DOT bumper. The industry already did a study of speed limiters in the 70s. It’s why we don’t have them now…. Do the research
I had that emergency breaking system happen when I was at stevens transport. I was in missouri and doing 35mph with my hazards on and it was pouring rain and it braked for me and I lost traction and slid off the road, luckily I just slid into some grass but I still got a "talking to" by my safety lol
"i'm not a driver".... of course you aren't. hey, the more regulations the better... just as long as YOU don't have to comply with them. everybody wants to rule everyone else until those "regulations" come knocking at YOUR doors. SMFH
By your answer tells me your not a driver please if you don’t own a cell keep your comments to yourself
Im glad you brought up the braking system. Mine does that exact thing. 2018 T680. But with an extra caveat. If its pouring down rain my system will spazz out i.e. repetative beeping and attempts to slow the truck. The this has only occured since putting the truck in the shop to update the collision detection system. Nothing like puckering the bum whilst white knuckling tje steering wheel in a maelstrom because of a "safety" feature.
Does it do that when the cruise control is off
@jboardman1976
When its not active yes, but I do generally keep the cruise flicked on when driving. Could that be the issue?
I flip the dash switch to turn it off (T680) when coming up on construction or on icy roads. It'll stay off for awhile but comes back on later.
Great video Ronin (lmao yes it was in purpose) getting better and better with the script, filming, editing and video setting, I'm jealous. So ya want feedback well here is my long story feedback; mainly because I'm shutdown for the night and bored.
First off the FMCSA is run by people that have never done the job and do not have first hand experience in doing the job in any phase, as a company driver, a lease driver or an o/o and that is the major downfall since the FMCSA was created. The FMCSA like many other parts of the Government gets kick backs from various sources, their is no doubt here, that does not have the individual truckers, small companies and single person O/O's with their own authority like myself in mind at any point, unless it is to screw us.
Speedlimits not a big deal; same outrage happened when companies big and small started to govern trucks speed; me being an O/O not tied to a company but my own, I control the speed limit of my truck and it is usually around 65-68mph, why you may ask, simple 9 mpg running at 65-68 and letting the computer do the work or 5-6 with me running the pedals at 70-80mph, a trucker knows what kind of savings are involved there, if you don't, then stay away from being an Owner Operator.
The big thing I have against this is; this is MY TRUCK I PAID FOR AND I OPERATE AND I TAKE THE RISK DOING SO; so what gives the Government the right to tell me what to do with my vehicle and pay attention RV Drivers, Hot Shot drivers and even civilian car drivers, this is coming at y'all next.
New entry 100% agree a good thing.
Auto Braking is going to be so dangerous, I foresee a lot of incidents here with jackknifing because of this system, both on slick roads and icy roads. Who will be responsible will be determined by the Insurance Companies and the lawyers I bet; the true winners in this crap.
I agree also with the fleet safety and the FMCSA knows about the ELD manipulation; that happens from overseas and there is little that can be done about it, anyone with the right IT knowledge and programming can do the same.
As for the "safety inspections" I have been running now for 32 years and I can count with one finger when I have seen a "inspector" looking at trucks on a yard; I was told by a Florida U.S. D.O.T inspector that is because they cannot prove the trucks are not going in for repair, sounds plausible to me , but I'm not doing their job.
Now in todays age look at regular trucking and look at the hot-shot drivers; in FL more and more hot-shot's are being pulled in for inspection and the big rigs are let by, unless there is a clear defect that catches the watching eye. The reason for this and this comes directly from a Florida D.O.T. inspector, "we have X amount of inspections to do in a day and it does not say which type of vehicles have to be inspected; inspecting a hot-shot takes 15 minutes or less, inspecting a big rig takes from 45 minutes to 2 hours, so which would you focus on inspecting in the heat and rain of Florida to meet the X amount?" kinda shoves the safety aspect out the window.
So what do I do when im running on I-10 in West Texas and the speed limit is 80mph for both trucks and cars? And Im limited to 65mph. You dont think the speed difference between the cars and trucks arent going to cause crashes? Its been proven time and time again that large speed differences between cars and trucks cause crashes.
Speed limiters on trucks should be decided by the driver experience and mvr. Instead of a point system, it should be a mph system
I was a victim of auto braking system. I had a company semi automatically went from 65MPH on clear I-40 NM going east an hour from ABQ cut off my acceleration control and had another semi tailgating me. I went from 65MPH to 35mph fast without warning and I didn’t gain control put in neutral than gun the fuel flipped into Drive and got it back to 65MPH. Put in a company shop days later and they said the mapping system built into truck needed update. Because the brand mapped out all the roads in America to help reduce fuel consumption when in cruise. The system did recognize the location and disengaged but didn’t allow me to manually control till it got to safe speed to give me control.
In the us 70mph is reasonable for a truck most new trucks have plenty of safety systems now accidents are caused by impatient distracted drivers we call steering wheel holders. If all truck driver stay alert not texting or watching movies you would have less accidents.
LOL yeah you can tell he's not a driver because of his opinion on speed limiters.
Nah Ronen.
The breaking system still malfunctions like you’ve spoke about… few winters ago mine picked up a shadown from a sign in a snow storm sent me sliding luckily I got it under control no crash
I drive a 2023 Freightliner and the automatic braking system stills fucking up. But once the radar gets calibrated it stops. However I usually have my finger ready to cancel cruise control in case that happens again
Also, fuel efficiency is a huge factor. Actually, I would argue its the main factor of lowering speed down for drivers cause it's not the driver saving money, it's the company. Me capable of doing 700-800+ days really opens the doors for loads for me. Currently I'm living off of 710 miles a day getting about 3.85$per mile cause I can take these loads and get them where they need to be cause my truck isn't governed at 65mph.
I dont use my cruise control... control anymore. I was climbing a small grade. The truck thought I was going to hit the 18 ft bridge; so it applied the brakes rather aggressively. No more cruise for me
Question about the New Entry testing: When exactly is this test given? Is this given after you have driven with a mentor and before a truck is assigned to you? I will be switching to trucking soon, so I'm trying to get ahead of the game the best I can. Thanks in advance.
Any government enlargement that replaces the time honored practice of the old truckers teaching the new truckers, attacks the progress of learning safe freight. Scales, pullovers, any matter of insurance and bonding cannot hold a candle to the pass it on process. Motor vehicle agencies are power mad extortionists. Legislature are houses of prejudice and sellouts to insurance companies. Simple is better.
Wife and I have been running Calgary - Mississauga, haven't crossed an open scale in Ontario yet this year
They should put speed limiters on cars ,so everyone knows exactly how that works. Yes it's great when its an open road Midwest USA or Canada you're cruising along no issues. But when you are in the situation trying to pass someone when everyone going the same speed, you've got other vehicles getting on the highway, you got others on the left lane going twice the speed limit. Another word it's great when you don't have to drive 😂. Enjoy it Americans, you guys used to honk and give us a finger for going too slow.
I'm sorry you don't have enough inspection stations. Can you drive your trucks to an inspection station or hire an inspector?
The indifference In speed causes wrecks. Cars traveling at 85mph where trucks can only reach a maximum of 65mph on a flat hwy or down hill is a minimum of 20 mph indifference which is nearly 1/3 the total speed of the truck. If you truly want to reduce accidents cell phone usage in automobiles has to be addressed. 90% of people driving cars have a phone in their hands
I have been driving a truck for about 30 years. If the government reduces the speed to 65 miles per hour you are asking for accidents, you will have 4 wheelers driving on the right shoulder to get around two trucks that are blocking the right and left lane especially on hills and mountains, not all trucks have the same pulling capacity.
65 sucks because no one wants to be in the right lane in busy traffic, they just clog the travel lanes
I wasn’t aware of the new 2025 rule with more EGR equipment being forced to be in the new trucks when you can please give us an updated video on that should people be buying the 2024 or waiting until the 2025 and is it going to get better gas mileage, or worse?
we have 70 mph in usa and 5 lane highways with rest areas and exits on the left its not safe to switch lanes merge or get in the left lane for exits. We should be able to go up to 72 at least really .
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Your opinion that speed limiters make it more safe is great. You run 100 trucks what does the actual safety record show?
I would never work for someone driving at 65mph. My company has trucks at 75mph. If you want safe drivers then only hire safe drivers and offer higher pay. If they ever try and force speed limiters on all trucks I’ll switch careers.
I had a braking system cause a wreck in a 2019 truck in 2020, luckily I was empty flatbed. No fatalities. Went to court and my company beat the case down from a 7 figure suit to $25k settlement and it beats me if they tried to go after the manufacturers after
Shadow issue about auto braking is very real. Highway 287 NYS southbound, especially in early fall. Brakes slam on downhill on a curve from underpass shadow. Fleet owned International, when reported told they were aware of the issue. 😮
Very sensitive subject speed limiters. If your an Owner Operator, owner of a fleet, company owner etc. You should have the choice to choose if you want speed limiters or not for you. Not the government. There are situations and times when extra speed is need to make a safe pass and not empeding traffic side by side blocking lanes for miles making road rage a possibility. Another example when on highways, interstates. Before approaching a steep hill, you want to gain more speed to climb the steep hill and also go with the faster flow of traffic so your not going half the speed limit holding up traffic when you have a full load of weight. Cruising at 65 mph yes is fuel efficient but also need to be efficient enough to speed up when necessary. Dash cams always a must have as well.
The goal of making the highways as safe as possible is a judgment call. We could reduce accidents 20 if we prohibited driving vehicles. Reduce the speed limit to 5 mph. Lots of things could be done government bureaucrats can’t make people want to be safe.
1:15 When is this going to take effect? I just bought a truck and was going to start my owner operater business in the next month or two. I have to take a course now?
No, don't worry about it
What about the your 65 mile hour drivers following other trucks 10 , 20 feet distance how much time to have to react????
In Calgary they set up inspection sites read on the streets and they inspect city drivers if they see that you drive cross border they do not bother you because they know that you’re more than likely get checked in the states. They are more concerned about the local commercial drivers that run lousy equipment
Every study that has been done on speed limiters has shown that more accidents have occured between trucks and cars, because there is more interactions.
Any extra technology on trucks, make it an extra cost option.
Unlike passenger cars, you can still spec out a truck down to the feature, the way you want it to an extent. No new technology needs to be added to what we already have. Simply perfect what we already have. As Ronen mentioned the issues with automatic braking, it slams brakes when the truck goes under a tunnel at a certain time of day. He's also correct by saying that truck manufacturers need to focus on fixing that rather than add more emission control on an already clean idle system. In short, before adding something new, FIX THE CURRENT STUFF.
Hi can you recommend or list out truck driving school that can train and help the student to transit into truck driving job in Canada.
When government agencies are talking about emissions on trucks, they're focusing on nitrous oxide and particulates, and to a lesser extent carbon monoxide. That icky stuff can get turned into nitrogen gas, water, and carbon dioxide which are way less harmful to breathe. The total carbon emissions are baked into the fuel consumed by the truck. Carbon emissions are relevant, but they're not the target for all the latest and greatest emissions features and technology.
One gets me is whenever the speed limit is 70 or 75 and a driver is maxed out at 65 and driving the Middle Lane during rush hour traffic.😅safe?
I drive a 2023 kw 880 and the brakes are still slamming with nothing there. It’s happened twice to me in 29k miles
65 mph vs 75 mph puts a cap on how many miles you’re able to turn legally in a day which put a cap on how much money you will be able to make in a day.. which adds up weekly monthly and annually
if that were the case then mega companies would raise the governors on their trucks
I don't like that automatic assist, because even on winter I have the problem on my 2019 volvo the truck slammed on the brakes because of the stupid 4wheeler , and I almost crash
The problem with governers isn't truck safety. The problem with governers is they're set at 60, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, and on and on. When you have two lanes of travel leaving a major city it takes forever for the traffic to normalize because you have a dozen different governers trying to get back into a free flow. If a truck is governed it needs to be a certain speed industry-wide. There should be two governer settings XX and N/A. Backups cause accidents. A line of governed trucks can cause just as much damage without even trading paint.
New driver here. Twice this week my Automated Breaking System went off on a bridge…not a soul (or even a shadow) in sight. If that happens on…I dunno, say…an icy bridge, truck driving may not be for me.
Heads up Ronin, I Drive in the Maritimes typically I run at 108kmph, I am constantly being passed By Ontario, and Quebec Plates blowing my wing mirrors off, Perhaps they are from the alternate universe...🤔
12:15 man oh you never been to California or Florida they pop Fontana California and from west palm beach to Miami they are crazy with the pop ups
Not about safety 😂 It's about money. Need to have that same energy when a disaster hits. Drivers can run past 14 hrs until a driver is tired
Time is more important than fuel mileage in my type of haul. It would be great to get fuel mileage but hauling grain has short hours
Speed Limiters, Automatic Braking System, Traffic Sensors ARE CRAP WE DON'T NEED THEM.
As you said, "You are not a driver." No one asks drivers when making these laws. Speed limiters are dangerous, in my opinion. I am a driver. I would discuss if anyone asks.
You like speed limiters, you like automatic braking. Next will be automatic steering. You're incrementally walking towards something. It's called autonomous trucking. Of course, you will like that too.
I think the FMCSA has the ability to change our Hours of Service to help us to become safer drivers.
The only issue i see😮 with speed limiters in the US is the amount of states with 80 mph speed limits. Autos need to be speed limited to 70 if you're going to limit Trucks
Safety is not what they care about. If they did worry about Safety then why would they suspend the rules after hurricanes ext.
Having speed differences between vehicles is unsafe and can cause more lane changes etc. 43 years OTR and limiters are a disaster leaving loaded trucks in the left lane creeping up on another for miles to get around them. No ability to gain momentum for an up coming hill. I briefly drove a limited truck and when in Arizona with an 80 mph limit, you are a hazard to both cars and other trucks!
I’ve been saying that about fuel fantasy should be more important than speed for 2 1/2 years or more! Unbelievably, but there are more in our drivers finding that out 4:52 4:53
I refuse to own a truck in this current economy. It was a goal of mine, but after hearing the horror stories and seeing first hand the obstacles, it doesn't even make sense anymore. Unless you're already established 😕
5-6 years ago? Nope. Happens all the time. Heaven forbid your flir gets covered in sleet….and slams on your brakes
Alright. Gotta stop you right there at the fuel efficiency at 65 speech. You’re not wrong…HOWEVER, me being an owner op should have the choice. Not be FORCED to do 65. I usually set my cruise at 63-64. Doesn’t mean I’d set my Governor on my truck at 64. BIG
Difference.
Australian scientists proved that the safest way to drive is to drive with the speed of the traffic flow. As soon as your trucks can't do that, you are a danger to others.
Not what's safe and what isn't, but as far as speed limiters go, if a truck is governed I think it should at least be governed to the speed limit. What's the purpose of governing the truck below the speed limit? I personally think that the slower vehicles are more of a danger than those going the speed limit. Not saying we should get out there and try to race everyone but we should at least be able to go with the flow of traffic. I know most people go over the limit but come on, I don't think slowing us down is going to make everything better. Just my personal opinion.
My 2023 truck still brakes that way still fun
This is stupid because the places you can legally run above 65 is in middle of no where, people aren't doing 75 mph through Los Angeles. This is such a waste of breathe. The high mileage areas don't have hardly any accidents. Trucking accidents have nothing to do with trucks that can go over 65 .
There is also a difference in running a road with an 85 mph speed limit and you are going 20 mph slower.
We are owner operator 40 years. Getting harder to make a living in trucking with diesel prices high and rates suck. Repairs tires and parts prices! Then we have this double broker crap making it harder for reputable carriers to get loads from brokers. Then the WAITING TIME! If u are on time for your apt , we shouldnt have to wait 4-5 hours to be loaded and unloaded for a lousy $25 after 2hours! And some now want 3-4 hours Free! Makes drives frustrated and have to now rush to make pick up or del on time! MORE FOCUS ON SHIPPERS AND RECEIVERS! $100 an hour mandatory waiting time
Closest I ever come to an accident driving a semi in 15 years was due to an automated Collision braking system was cut off and brake checked bye another semi went for shoulder had no control with all brakes locking up and jumping up and down on the interstate I'm the driver should be in controller not a damn automated computer nearly tarnish my perfect record
FMCSA is becoming nothing more than a joke. Speed limiters and automatic breaking are 2 of the most dangerous things that you can do to a driver. I have 33 years, over 4 million miles, 0 accidents or incidents. The key to safety is to train the drivers and make sure they know what they are doing. It's bad enough that now we have people driving semis with their legs crossed because they have automatics in their semis. More laws and more restrictions are not the answer! Stop giving CDL's to anybody that has a heartbeat.
As I driver, I noticed that slower speeds impede traffic and create frustration and impatient car drivers. I'm limited at 65mph, and when I'm passing a truck limited at 63, I have a line off cars behind me who are upset. Also, I have had 2 cars pass in emergency lanes in an 80mph zone when I was trying to pass at my max speed of 65mph. Not saying trucks should go 80 mph+, but 75 is more realistic as majority legal speed limits tend to be above 70 mph.
Also, when I had a truck limited at 72mph I averaged mpg 9.1-9.6 based on hills and load weight. I would cruse on declines at 75 mph in an 80 and capture better mpg. Same truck and engine i have now is limited to 65 mph. I get 8.1-8.4 mpg. At faster speeds and staying below, the actual speed limit of 75 or 80 I get better mpg on downhills and long straight aways. Up hill I feather the acceleration.
My Kenworth dealer will limit speeds to the front tire max speed rating only (75 for me). They said liability could fall on them.
I'm not a fan of the automated braking systems at all. I'm a new driver and have only been driving for about 2mo and I have already had the system attempt to engage at least 5 times in error. I agree that the system could be useful, but only if it works. And at this point I haven't seen any evidence that it's reliable. If the system tries to slam on my brakes when I'm on the highway because a plastic bag blows across the roadway, the danger caused is much higher than any benefit the system could ever have.
3:23 i disagree. 85mph is way to high but 65mph compared to the speed limit which usually is 75mph. As a driver 65mph actually make things unsafer. Drivers will be more wreakless
Depending on your gearing if you get better fuel economy at 65 or 70.
I drive 65 to 70 depending on the situation, but I don't need an idiot In a office telling me what speed to drive. Or how to run my truck!!!
When I began Driving in 1994 most trucks where govern at 55mph. Cars would be traveling at speed of 60-70mph. This made driving more stressful as the cars would be eager to pass the slower trucks just to slam on their brakes in front of me. To this day I'm always expecting and car that passes me to brake check me. Regulating a trucks speed lower than the flow of traffic is a hazard to all vehicles on the highway. Training all new drivers is the only way to insure safety, not regulating some while leaving other do as they wish.
Speed limiters for all trucks will be worse than California everywhere. I’m stuck at 65 and I hate it. I get in the way passing a truck that’s going 61-63 bc I can’t even have a boost to pass. Every truck going 65 will be a parking lot in the states.
At a press conference on August 12th, 1986, US President Ronald Reagan said, “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”