Its miked up for the league to check--Nothing. If that racial slur was said, Garrett didnt speak that at all afterwards until he stood before the commissioner. Of course Wiley, cant see through this--get passed it bro.
He never said he twisted nuts and dicks! He said he would grab their stomach and twist. Nasty acts. I mean I've pinched ppl in the gut and kidneys in piles but never twist guts or grab nuts
The Real Reason no and the kick in and of itself warrants a suspension. Also running after Garrett also caused an escalation of the fight but nothing justifies the helmet swing.
I don't think so for exactly what Whitlock said. People like Whitlock would automatically say that Garrett is trying to play the race card to justify his actions. Also, I don't remember Garrett being allowed to say anything that wasn't already prepared for him. It would make sense that the organization and his lawyer wouldn't want Garrett to freely talk in public cuz it could be used against him in his appeal. So, to me, it makes sense that he waited (most likely on advice of the org and/or his lawyer) until his appeal to fully explain his side of what happened. You cannot make overarching generalities cuz you cannot speak for every single person. If you think you can then you're dumber than I thought you are.
Garrett and his HC insinuated that something was said immediately after the game. Then Garrett waits until and official meeting, closed doors, with a league official, under oath to let the league know what's up. As anyone with a sense of responsibility and respect for the league would do, as an act of not escolating. It gets leaked and now everyone's getting pissy that he didn't shout off the rooftops as the entire media world is condemning him. The same people who are ripping him for going through the proper channels would have ripped him for not going through the proper channels.
@@cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301 you sir, are doing the exact thing that you in your closing paragraph say people cant do, that is funny, and hypocritical
@@wildsillyman47 You don't make any sense. I didn't make any overarching generalities. I am assuming you are referring to when I said "people like Whitlock" i.e. the people who are saying the same thing as Whitlock. I am not talking on behalf of every single person. Do you even know what constitutes an overarching generality? Explain how what I said was hypocritical. When you fail to do so, be prepared to be made fun of mercilessly.
Myles Garret is lying. He never would’ve issued an apology without mentioning that he was called a racial slur. This is a pathetic attempt to lower his suspension. What an ugly day for the Browns.
Wiley could have just skipped all his BS excuses and cut to the chase: "I believe Myles Garrett because he's black and Mason Rudolph is a Trump supporter."
Wiley never said he believes Garrett, he said he has no reason not to believe him.... and he also said that Garrett seems more believable than Rudolph right now because Rudolph has already lied about what happened.
LoL. But he should have it is open conversation sensitive but open. Mark can take care of himself and he can comment his opinion as well. Like arrington said it goes both ways
israel endalk How so? Were you on the field and hear him not use a racial slur? Or do you just believe what people want you too? Did the NFL release proof that Myles is lying or did they just say they couldn’t find he was telling the truth? Big difference.
@@selig7 u seem a lil upset like dude didn't say he believed either side didn't speak on it at all. I think he meant that as a black person the spectacle as a whole was embarrassing.forgive me off I wrong
To all you idiots, Myles didn't just "come out with it" 2 weeks later, he waited to go to Roger's office and tell him PRIVATELY what happened. The NFL just leaked the info. So re-think your racist viewpoints about "crying racism"…
@@openthemind1244 do you actually believe that? Seriously? He waited a week to come out with this when he had every chance to use this as defence for his own inappropriate actions and clear his name a bit right from the beginning? No way man. He was apologetic after the game and said himself that there's no place in the game for that and that he felt ashamed of what he had done. And he even wrote a letter of apology to Rudolph. Nah man. I dont buy that.
Open The Mind it would have been the first thing he said... “he called me the N word!!!” Would have been all he could say after the game. He used the race card because it’s word against word... and he wants an excuse for doing something dumb. To suggest otherwise is silly.
Wiley: "I'm going to choose to believe him and then bend all the facts to support that belief instead of going with the common sense explanation that he's lying."
When your reality and common sense is shaped by your misguided perception of reality then believe what you want . But regardless of when he would have said this accusation people like you would find it a convenient excuse. There are no facts to support if he did or did not say it. We only know Rudolph lied about being slammed and his hand being caught in his helmet and he didn't make the situation worse. There is no evidence to prove Garrett lied anywhere about his horrid actions or what led up to them.
Miles didn't apologize his PR team did and they apologized before they got his side of the story this is an inside guy talking to you now so now... closet racist racism is in everything y'all do nowadays you can even look at video and see this guy's foot in the man's crotch and still pretend it didn't happen why because white folks can always look the other way on Extreme things and make no mistake this is not extreme this is a dude who got everything he asked for because he got the bad end of it he's now our victim and you like that victim never the less he had his lineman holding the man's arms he ran up on somebody and got all he deserved and y'all want to victimize him he didn't get cut he didn't get a concussion he threw his arms in the air like a b**** and you like that guy I bet you have a lot in common with that guy
He clearly inferred something was said & he showed no signs of regret so... Who knows only Idiot smashed brain Rudolph, Garrett & maybe DeCastro &Pouncey
I believe Rudolph called him an n word and don’t blame garret at all plus he was defending himself when Rudolph charged him. The helmet swing was bad on his part but in the heat of the moment did it cause he lost his cool when Rudolph tried to come back at him - coming from a white guy
question though, did he say it to the coach after the incident. I remember that the coach gave a statement that Miles Garret told him what happened but that would remain between them. If the Coach collaborates the allegation, does that give it more power?
@@BlackzSparrow As a black person if someone calls me the N word and I react, that will not be the end of it, because I will love to let the world know about it. 2. I will also not apologise to him but will apologise for my reaction, if i over did it. He has been coached to use that as a get away card to reduce his suspension and that is so coward of him! Respect lost here for him. If there was an N word I'm not sure that his team mate will shh about it. Not a single person said anything until 7days later.
@@alfredad12 good to see some one actually using some common Sense on this subject. It's completely ridiculous to think he wouldn't of called out Rudolph for being a racist IMMEDIATELY after the incident. IF....big If , he had used that slur and Myles didn't report it immediately, then shame on him. But we both know it never was said ..
Nah. Necessarily! That would've been the first thing out of his mouth. That would've been his justification for what he did and he would have damm sure told all the rest of the black players that night.
@@robertmoss4210 that's stupid...being called a name isn't justification for possibly killing him...if the first thing out of your mouth is "well, he called me a name" then you have the maturity of a 8 year old.
Exactly!! It wouldnt take him catching an indefinite suspension to make that point. He didnt think he was gonna get burned, and when he did he tried anything he thought would gain him sympathy. Which today is nothing more than the race or religion card.
@abc def I've been in a situation just like this ... I'm far from racist ... One of my favorite historical figures is John Brown because he was a legit abolitionist ... He was a middle class white man that fought with slaves in Kansas and Harper's Ferry ... Chill with that racist stuff because you do not know me ...
Black people never use racial slurs: according to the NFL, the media, politicians; and everyone else in the world. If your afraid to discuss the truth, it makes it difficult to heal from crying victim.
kirkdogg007 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH word games don’t change the meaning and understanding that we all have. Prejudice against someone’s race is racism, period. Wtf are you even trying to say, “they are racist but it’s not actually racist because they are black and weak, not worthy of criticizing”? You’re the racist
prejudice is a “preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience,”. Quite simply, it is a pre-judgment that one makes of another that is not rooted in their own experience. Prejudice refers to a preconceived idea about a particular group, while racism involves an unequal distribution of power on the basis of race. Sociologists have found that racism has led to a wide range of detrimental outcomes for people of color, including unequal access to jobs and housing, as well as an increased risk of being a victim of police brutality.
“We caught him on camera saying the ‘b’ word.” So what you’re saying is that the cameras and mics at the game are capable of recording things that are said? And yet there’s no evidence whatsoever of him using a racial slur? Very interesting.
@@greggorysteward8915 *you said it. Some would some wouldn't. That right there would clear it up. But nobody hesitated for a moment. Proves he didn't say it(according to your theory)!🤔*
@@sergeiyzerman7240 It has to do with the racial history. The social structure. And the over all effect. This ridiculous attempt at distortion of FACT crumbles in consideration and comparison to the above. Your slurs were codified into LAWs. And justified as LEGALITY. So use your preposterous attempt at distortion on RUMPLUCKERs like yourself. Not on someone who is WOKE.
@@sergeiyzerman7240 There is no question that from a strictly moral point of view, NO...using racial slurs toward whites is NOT ok. That was not my focus in the first place. For me, there was never any question about the fact that it was wrong!!! Just as there is no question that RUMPLICKERs use it, slurs against white, reverse racism, ect. as a distorting tactic to HISTORY of RACISM in America and WHO is the primary perpetrator of that history.
Here’s Wiley’s logic: Rudolph says he didn’t escalate...his apology was six days later... scripted... insincere...THEREFORE....he used the ‘n’ word. Brilliant.
No what he is saying is show me a time that Myles had lied. Now show me a time that Rudolph lied. Oh you can't show one for Garrett but you can for Mason? Well in that case I'm going to take the side of the person who has a more reliable personality
Ronald Kregar I think you're right, they probably said that the desk had to have different takes. Cause Marcellus' take, was just I'm listening to Myles cause he's black and not mason, cause he's white.
@@JoshuaKimbrough "There's no God at Columbia which is why there is no wisdom at Columbia". He's probably knowledgable but it's not wise to just believe any kind of allegation without proper evidence.
These are all opinions and not facts. That’s what makes it hard to decide. The minute a audio recording comes out one could either be completely right or completely wrong.
@@JTorr that there's no reason to NOT believe him....that's exactly the point that you or Whitlock can't seem to understand...that's logic.......to say you DON'T believe him because Jussie Smollett lied or because it's 7 days later or etc is NOT logic.
M. Camp Garrett didnt lose himself all over a guy trying to take his helmet off.. lets cut the nonsense hes twice the size of rudolph.. Garrett probably felt pressured after the game and didnt want to make it about a race thing and didnt want to make the situation even worse than it was
Alfred Jones - Like what? I’m an OU fan and followed OSU reasonably closely. Never heard a word about Rudolph being a bad guy. He was definitely aggravating this situation by pulling at Garrett’s helmet and doing a push-kick to Garrett’s crotch (watch the video. It’s there). The stuff about the N word... no. Not buying it. And I’m very sorry to see Garrett go. Amazing talent and he’s going to lose almost everything for an out of character reaction. Back to it. I haven’t ever heard anything bad about Rudolph. He always reminded me o OSU’s version of Landry Jones. Squeaky clean. Almost a great player. No killer instinct.
whitlock said something interesting he mad at garrett playing the race card. but not mad at rudolph calling garrett an bully. throwing more dirt on his name when he started everything but couodnt finish it. he still hasnt apologize for those lors he told on camera like he was so innocent
@@mrkeels89 calling someone a bully (whether it be a lie or not), & someone clearly lying about being called the "N" word are two totally different things. You can't compare those at all
B.S HE SAID IT...MYLES BEING A BLACK MAN N AMERICA DNT HAVE CHANCE. . OF COURSE HE SHOULD KEPT HIS MOUTH CLOSED.....QUARTERBACK ALL INNOCENT STRAIGHT BS
Of course he's wrong....his commentary opposes the little white narrative that you pale males and your black sycophants like to tell yourselves about equality and merit.
Kendrick Moore if you want to judge a group of people for the actions of others, especially people from a different generation, don’t then say you shouldn’t judge black people on the actions of others ie crime statistics. You can’t have it both ways. You can judge as a group or you can judge as an individual. You can’t have both
@@TitusT21 Well lets see 40 years of social safety net targeting poor and low income, affirmative action, preferential grants, loans, and treatment in education see weighted SAT scores. Give a flat dollar value, and it will be too small. No matter what, for some nothing will ever be enough
Crutch you Caucasian fool you're the one with the crutch leaning on the treacherous wickedness of your ancestors to build your wealth but a reckoning is coming blood for blood eye for an eye lol haha
How do you know it didn't happen there are people who been victimized and didn't say a word for years now hitting him in the head may have been overboard but the Quarterback isn't innocent either.
Ummmmmmm ... different profession yet, the same theme... how is it that Garrett espousing that this nobody QB used racial slurs several days after the incident but, white women came forward decades after the fact to accuse Cosby and they were totally believable.... lmatfo!!!! Typical of Mr. Charlie.
He's just playing devils advocate, it's all for show for people on these "debate" shows to disagree. They have both sides here too, which makes everyone feel represented lol.
Mark D You would move the goalpost I’m the argument regardless. If I slapped you 7 days ago and you didn’t tell anybody for 7 days, does it change the fact that you were slapped 7 days ago?
@@Piface2099 so they need to stop lying and saying there is absolutely no evidence of mason saying anything racist. release the audio if there's nothing there. let us know if Myles is a liar or not.
@Petty Ceddy We all would rat out our QB If he said that, wtf are you on? That's beyond team loyalty. So mason whispered a slur and then tried to grab his helmet off??? Can I sell you magic jumping beans?
@Quinton Rogers are you high how is he supposed to show you evidence when it was a confrontation on the field. Like what do you want recording of him saying it ????
6:40, He's absolutely right. The night of the game, Garrett was heated and let his emotions take over, leading him to do something stupid. 6 days later after writing an apology, he realized what "rest of the season" actually meant and did something dumber. If I'm wrong, I'll come back here and apologize.
@@Visionoyd so it ain't strange to you that Myles didn't tell any of his teammates that Mason called him a slur? That would be the first thing I told my teammates, coach, ref, and the media.
Richard Hostetler Said something to the proper authorities and that was his coaches and GM’s they said that that was not new to them they had heard about it and in his post game interview when the interviewer asked him if something was said from Mason to him they started the fight he said that the NFL need to go check it out and he wasn’t go comment on it until later on so he told people that something was said he just didn’t say exactly
Whatever Rudolph said, whatever Rudolph did, it still DID NOT warrant the hit with the helmet on the head. Now if Rudolph made some racial comment to Garrett during the incident, if Garrett took a few swings at him with his fist, I'd be okay with that as sad as they may seem.
He assaulted the person that assaulted him first. How does everyone miss Rudolph pulling on his helmet when the videos clearly show he did it. But you act like he did wasn't anything.
Once you say “assault” it takes nfl out of it. He has two enemies in his face and one actively reaching to hit him. I believe in the eyes of a courtroom this is clear self defense. Anyway Mason has it coming for dropping the N bomb.
As a black man listening to Marcellus and Lavar make me feel no hope for the Youth of the black community if their elders respond to violence in this way. As black men and women we have to understand that words do not warrant physical assault or abuse. Black people get whooped when they are children for saying things not only for actions. Those are good teaching moments to help a young child understand what they're saying is wrong, but instead of majority of us got whooped instead. No white person ever whipped me, the only whipping I got came from a person look exactly like me. Lesson here is a real man keeps his composure no matter what is said. You can never justify your violence because someone called you a word. Try that in court or to God and see where that gets you. Marcellus and Lavar it's time to grow up and evolve. Think of the message you send to the children.
Aaron Humphrey except Garrett apologized to Rudolph in a statement and never told the media or teammates about the alleged slur. We can use logic when looking at the circumstantial evidence and make reasonable inferences.
Marcellus contradicts himself about 12 different times in this segment. You can always tell when Marcellus is trying to bs because he starts using the word “context” too much and usually in an unintelligible manner
Jeremiah Johnson nah that’s Lavar on this show you can tell because he’s laughing throughout the argument especially when Whitlock calls out on his basketball game story. Wiley is trying to impress max kellerman.
@@dannytallmadge2161 but that's stupid to ask because Wiley's point is that Garrett is not "NOT credible"....Whitlock was trying to make it seem like Wiley is trying to say Garrett is right when Wiley was simply saying that you can't say Garrett is wrong.... that's called twisting someone's point.
@@JayTheRealest1 Lol Garrett was interviewed *right after the game* ! That's not a good time? Why wait a week when you have a platform immediately following the incident?! BS!
Especially with your job on the line, amirite? If someone was BSing about me at my place of work, I'd be talkin up a STORM about how they were lying right off the bat; Not waiting 8 days. Either way, name-calling doesn't warrant physical violence. Isn't that what we teach children? "Words will never hurt me." But a helmet will!
@@ThyKing25 Garrett gets roughing the passer all the time. 8 seconds left in the game and pile drives Rudolph into the ground? That's unnecessary and Garrett deserved everything that has been given to him. He tried use the race card in his appeal and it didn't work, now he looks stupid.
myles said the night in an interview the fight happened he got out of control and made a mistake and had to own up to it. No angry no rage he was calm and admitted the fight shouldn't of happened. A WEEK LATER after hes been suspended he says well actually rudolf called me a racial slur? Myles is willing to ruin another players reputation over this.
@@MalevolentElephant lol...I can't for my life understand why since people don't immediately hear a complete story they think there is no story to hear...
Everyone has their opinion, but the truth of the matter is,no one knows what happened between those 2,but something was said,something happened to start it all
I doubt that Garrett would wait til now to point that out. He would've told his team and they would've made this public sooner. In fact when those Steelers linemen were in his face he would've told them.
You’re a clown... because clearly you have your finger on the pulse of the browns locker room... you don’t pick a fight with someone.. then decide to pull out a bat.. and then have that person you’re fighting take that bat away from you... and your continue to escalate the fight and get in his face.. Don’t act surprised if you get hit.. Ps Whitlock is fat
What are your thoughts on Myles Garrett’s allegation?
I think if Rudolph really said something racist garret would have been said something i think he's full of shhh
@@TooCold7100 same
Its miked up for the league to check--Nothing. If that racial slur was said, Garrett didnt speak that at all afterwards until he stood before the commissioner. Of course Wiley, cant see through this--get passed it bro.
WHITLOCK IS A COWARD
Speak For Yourself Marcellus right on point LaVar Arrington right on point back to the study wow OG Arrington
“I don’t have a reason NOT to believe Myles Garrett”
Except none of the other 21 players nor any official heard this. Fantastic.
Have you heard of the concept of volume. Mason didn’t necessarily shout it at him maybe it was whispered.
@@syuhaguawuwhapwb6124 ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
@@TweaNation never said he was guilty i just said this wasn’t the be all end all
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that the guy in blue just admitted to twisting someone’s manhood in the bottom of a pile? Lmfao
it was right after he got finished suckin on it
He never said he twisted nuts and dicks! He said he would grab their stomach and twist. Nasty acts. I mean I've pinched ppl in the gut and kidneys in piles but never twist guts or grab nuts
The Real Reason no and the kick in and of itself warrants a suspension. Also running after Garrett also caused an escalation of the fight but nothing justifies the helmet swing.
The Real Reason you’ve obviously never played FB
Wiley is a f'n tool
Come on man. If that QB called him the N word we would’ve heard that on day one.
..more like right there and then..whether that word or any other slur..
I don't think so for exactly what Whitlock said. People like Whitlock would automatically say that Garrett is trying to play the race card to justify his actions. Also, I don't remember Garrett being allowed to say anything that wasn't already prepared for him. It would make sense that the organization and his lawyer wouldn't want Garrett to freely talk in public cuz it could be used against him in his appeal. So, to me, it makes sense that he waited (most likely on advice of the org and/or his lawyer) until his appeal to fully explain his side of what happened.
You cannot make overarching generalities cuz you cannot speak for every single person. If you think you can then you're dumber than I thought you are.
Garrett and his HC insinuated that something was said immediately after the game. Then Garrett waits until and official meeting, closed doors, with a league official, under oath to let the league know what's up. As anyone with a sense of responsibility and respect for the league would do, as an act of not escolating. It gets leaked and now everyone's getting pissy that he didn't shout off the rooftops as the entire media world is condemning him. The same people who are ripping him for going through the proper channels would have ripped him for not going through the proper channels.
@@cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301 you sir, are doing the exact thing that you in your closing paragraph say people cant do, that is funny, and hypocritical
@@wildsillyman47 You don't make any sense. I didn't make any overarching generalities. I am assuming you are referring to when I said "people like Whitlock" i.e. the people who are saying the same thing as Whitlock. I am not talking on behalf of every single person. Do you even know what constitutes an overarching generality? Explain how what I said was hypocritical. When you fail to do so, be prepared to be made fun of mercilessly.
"My blackness won't allow me to give an honest opinion." -Wiley
Good summary
Imagine being I such a mental prison that your afraid to speak honestly for fear of being called a sellout?
@@CoreyT127 well put
@ Nolan Gleason If blacks are tribal I guess whites are clan-like
I know more Marcellus but I haven't talked to him since we were in early twenties. He didn't act racist then at all
If the helmet don't fit you must acquit
Should have 1k likes... surgical af.
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Myles Garret is lying. He never would’ve issued an apology without mentioning that he was called a racial slur. This is a pathetic attempt to lower his suspension. What an ugly day for the Browns.
Facts
@@cordelljohnson1060 Jesus man, were you there? Do you know for a fact that it was said?
@Frank B Parker Whiteboys tough asf on the internet 🙄
Josina Anderson should be fired!
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 Everybody is a tough guy on the internet, skin color not withstanding.
Wiley could have just skipped all his BS excuses and cut to the chase: "I believe Myles Garrett because he's black and Mason Rudolph is a Trump supporter."
Except Wiley is a conservative.
Dov 😂😂
Or you could say the reverse, which is that you don’t believe Garrett because he is black and you believe Mason because he is a Trump supporter
Wiley never said he believes Garrett, he said he has no reason not to believe him.... and he also said that Garrett seems more believable than Rudolph right now because Rudolph has already lied about what happened.
Thats the most accurate comment ever. This is literally the reason.
Schlereth wanted out of there. I’m surprised he said anything.
LoL. But he should have it is open conversation sensitive but open. Mark can take care of himself and he can comment his opinion as well. Like arrington said it goes both ways
Being from Idaho and we know how they feel I the potato state
@@coleeason6007. Lol. Yes we know
as a black person this is an totally an embarrassment.
israel endalk How so? Were you on the field and hear him not use a racial slur? Or do you just believe what people want you too? Did the NFL release proof that Myles is lying or did they just say they couldn’t find he was telling the truth? Big difference.
@@selig7 u seem a lil upset like dude didn't say he believed either side didn't speak on it at all. I think he meant that as a black person the spectacle as a whole was embarrassing.forgive me off I wrong
@@selig7 Lol that's not how this works... Just like in court, you have to prove the other person did say/do something, not the other way around.
israel endalk I think the whole thing is. Hand out suspensions (including Rudolph). Leave it be haha
@@selig7 aren't you doing the samething? Just believing what people want you to? Go somewhere with your nonsense. It's not working you lame.
I heard Myles Garret just announced Rudolph poured bleach on him too.
And tried to put a noose on him too. That Rudolph will try anything.
Toodank2bunderstood Classic!
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Ralph Sandwich Myles Garret swung the helmet at Rudolph just cause he said “Eat fresh”
Took his Subway sammich too even
This dude seems like he wishes there was actually a slur used.
To all you idiots, Myles didn't just "come out with it" 2 weeks later, he waited to go to Roger's office and tell him PRIVATELY what happened. The NFL just leaked the info. So re-think your racist viewpoints about "crying racism"…
@@openthemind1244 do you actually believe that? Seriously? He waited a week to come out with this when he had every chance to use this as defence for his own inappropriate actions and clear his name a bit right from the beginning? No way man. He was apologetic after the game and said himself that there's no place in the game for that and that he felt ashamed of what he had done. And he even wrote a letter of apology to Rudolph. Nah man. I dont buy that.
Open The Mind it would have been the first thing he said... “he called me the N word!!!” Would have been all he could say after the game. He used the race card because it’s word against word... and he wants an excuse for doing something dumb. To suggest otherwise is silly.
@@openthemind1244 you need to change your name here son because your mind looks closed asf. Disingenuous.
@@openthemind1244 your an idiot miles used this as a scapegoat so his suspension is lessened.
Lavar Arrington on here looking like Rodney Peete.
Yo LOL a young Rodney Peete
Wiley: "I'm going to choose to believe him and then bend all the facts to support that belief instead of going with the common sense explanation that he's lying."
@Jay Rush you must have never lived in reality
How’s it common sense
joelil thrash it’s common sense Garret is lying if you even have the slightest bit of self awareness and ability to decipher behavior.
Bend what facts?
When your reality and common sense is shaped by your misguided perception of reality then believe what you want . But regardless of when he would have said this accusation people like you would find it a convenient excuse. There are no facts to support if he did or did not say it. We only know Rudolph lied about being slammed and his hand being caught in his helmet and he didn't make the situation worse. There is no evidence to prove Garrett lied anywhere about his horrid actions or what led up to them.
Mark is smart letting all the black guys hash this out 😂😂😂
that's the best thing for him to do.
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I recognized that also.
While at the same time does not pull a Max Kellerman
There is only two black men on the set.
Myles is lying. If somebody called me the N word I wouldn’t apologize the way Myles did.
Exactly
He was forced to. In the post game interview he didnt show any signs of regret.
Miles didn't apologize his PR team did and they apologized before they got his side of the story this is an inside guy talking to you now so now... closet racist racism is in everything y'all do nowadays you can even look at video and see this guy's foot in the man's crotch and still pretend it didn't happen why because white folks can always look the other way on Extreme things and make no mistake this is not extreme this is a dude who got everything he asked for because he got the bad end of it he's now our victim and you like that victim never the less he had his lineman holding the man's arms he ran up on somebody and got all he deserved and y'all want to victimize him he didn't get cut he didn't get a concussion he threw his arms in the air like a b**** and you like that guy I bet you have a lot in common with that guy
If you like making millions you would
U say that but u don't have millions on the line neither 💯💯
Them saying that Rudolph looked so angry he would say a racial slur is pretty messed up lol
If he did that he would of expressed that after the game
It is not what they call you it is what you answer to! Myles Garrett is a punk!
@@williamaaronberryiii6538 shut up GEEZER.
*Lmao you don't know what he would've done. None of us do.*
He clearly inferred something was said & he showed no signs of regret so... Who knows only Idiot smashed brain Rudolph, Garrett & maybe DeCastro &Pouncey
I believe Rudolph called him an n word and don’t blame garret at all plus he was defending himself when Rudolph charged him. The helmet swing was bad on his part but in the heat of the moment did it cause he lost his cool when Rudolph tried to come back at him - coming from a white guy
Marcellus “Facts over feelings unless they’re my feelings” Wiley 😂
Brad T dude so true
@@Superdimensional I don't respect Wiley anymore.
Sweet Music he always been an emo.
Brad T I agree
Good one bruh!!!
Wiley: I have no evidence but I believe him 100%.
A black guy believes a black guy with no reasonable cause and some people are surprised. No way
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That's exactly why y'all white people believe the white person. Nobody knows who's telling the truth but the two players
Wiley is a racist
@@raymondbacon1741 You are making the same exact same assumption. He' s black, so why would he lie about hearing a racial slur? It works both ways.
lets be real, if Rudolph said what Garret said then there is no way Garrett would of apologized
7days to remember been called N word! Come on Wiley!
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William Aaron Berry III
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It is not what they call you it is what you answer to! Myles Garrett is a punk!
That's what I say. C'mon man!
question though, did he say it to the coach after the incident. I remember that the coach gave a statement that Miles Garret told him what happened but that would remain between them. If the Coach collaborates the allegation, does that give it more power?
@@BlackzSparrow As a black person if someone calls me the N word and I react, that will not be the end of it, because I will love to let the world know about it.
2. I will also not apologise to him but will apologise for my reaction, if i over did it. He has been coached to use that as a get away card to reduce his suspension and that is so coward of him! Respect lost here for him. If there was an N word I'm not sure that his team mate will shh about it. Not a single person said anything until 7days later.
@@alfredad12 good to see some one actually using some common Sense on this subject. It's completely ridiculous to think he wouldn't of called out Rudolph for being a racist IMMEDIATELY after the incident. IF....big If , he had used that slur and Myles didn't report it immediately, then shame on him. But we both know it never was said ..
Myles Garrett out here lying like Jussie Smollett hahahahahah...
I agree....I don't believe Myles Garrett either, but Jason Whitlock is still trash!
Smooyay
Robert Butler you have to prove someone guilty not innocent. The Steelers QB is innocent until proven guilty
Why did he get so upset his team was winning the game? Mason Rudolph didn't take swing at him. He had to have said something
@@bretyeilding9215 Robert didn't lean towards any side.He made reasonable assumption.dont know what happened
He didn't call him the "N" word. If he had we would have heard all about it immediately, not 6 days later
Nah. Necessarily! That would've been the first thing out of his mouth. That would've been his justification for what he did and he would have damm sure told all the rest of the black players that night.
@Phil Alexandre Maybe you and I just know different types of black people. Good day.
@@robertmoss4210 that's stupid...being called a name isn't justification for possibly killing him...if the first thing out of your mouth is "well, he called me a name" then you have the maturity of a 8 year old.
@@boricuafrican1 I tell you what, go around calling people the n-word and see how close you come to actually losing your life.
Being black isn't a justification for being killed either oh, but it's happened more times than we can count
Wiley sticking to his guns even though everyone poked holes all over his logic.
KRocksU elementary logic. He’s way off here- sounds like a complete fool.
If Rudolph called Garrett the n word Garrett would have said so immediately
Exactly!! It wouldnt take him catching an indefinite suspension to make that point. He didnt think he was gonna get burned, and when he did he tried anything he thought would gain him sympathy. Which today is nothing more than the race or religion card.
How Do You Know That?
Not really...
Jay Glazer was actually reporting about it immediately after the game he stated he knew right after. Just that Myles wanted it to be kept under wraps
Not necessarily
Wiley is up here bragging about playing dirty AS. No wonder he agrees with Garrett
Exactly! Hopeing blood is drawn. What a effeminate man.🤦🏿♂️
Everybody play dirty in the trenches
Jason Whitlock. Preach. The perpetual ethnic victimization needs to come to an abrupt end‼️
Check out Glen Loury or John McWhorter. They are people who talk about the victimization subject.
You should be ashamed of yourself for the stupid comments you just made ! Wow brother really!😪
Preach what? I really want guys like u and whitlock to be with your master and get away from the rest of us!!!!
Garrett wasn't trying to use it as an excuse ... It got leaked out ... Believe me when I say this : Rudolph started this ... 💯💯💯 sure ...
@abc def I've been in a situation just like this ... I'm far from racist ... One of my favorite historical figures is John Brown because he was a legit abolitionist ... He was a middle class white man that fought with slaves in Kansas and Harper's Ferry ... Chill with that racist stuff because you do not know me ...
Mason Rudolph said, "We usually beat the BROWNS!" Garrett took it the wrong way...
Lmao
Nice!
Nice!
Lmao
I don't think Rudolph said it because if he did he would have had a bunch of Brothers jumping on his Fanny
Black people never use racial slurs: according to the NFL, the media, politicians; and everyone else in the world. If your afraid to discuss the truth, it makes it difficult to heal from crying victim.
@Clint Redmon u mean prejudice.
@@kirkdogg007 No. Racist.
kirkdogg007 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH word games don’t change the meaning and understanding that we all have. Prejudice against someone’s race is racism, period. Wtf are you even trying to say, “they are racist but it’s not actually racist because they are black and weak, not worthy of criticizing”? You’re the racist
prejudice is a “preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience,”. Quite simply, it is a pre-judgment that one makes of another that is not rooted in their own experience.
Prejudice refers to a preconceived idea about a particular group, while racism involves an unequal distribution of power on the basis of race.
Sociologists have found that racism has led to a wide range of detrimental outcomes for people of color, including unequal access to jobs and housing, as well as an increased risk of being a victim of police brutality.
@@deman714 except this isn't prejudice because there is not preconceived opinion in this matter what garrett did was racist
“We caught him on camera saying the ‘b’ word.”
So what you’re saying is that the cameras and mics at the game are capable of recording things that are said? And yet there’s no evidence whatsoever of him using a racial slur? Very interesting.
Excellent point. Wiley has CTE going on or something after listening to his take on this
Lol very sharp remark
exactly
N0TYALC If there was audio to negate the league who is going through a racial crisis would def put it out
He pushed him from behind what are you supposed to say ?
Wileys takes have been awful lately, dude is just becoming annoying
Swag Money I appreciate him keeping the conversation lively. It’s necessary to have diverse opinions to make a show good.
@@Anonynamalam it's a Bayless move. Be a contrary just to be .... No substance.
This is most likely not how he really feels, every show needs at least one person to disagree with the majority
Now What Bayless has substance
@@Anonynamalam I understand that, but he's reaching way too hard with the theory he's trying to use.
Marcellus used to be entertaining now he sounds like every other girl on ESPN
Lol
Man I ok if they use logic and facts to prove a point, but this dude is arguing just to argue!
Man shut tf up
Marcellus sounds like Greg Beez!!! Lol you go girl
@@joesalazar2634 And she don’t even sound hot...
If he said that would his black teammates come to his defense?
Some would some wouldn't. Remember what Whitlock said he was called one and nobody did anything at that time.
Bro no one is coming in defense of Whitlock. Even if he was from DC, NYC, South Central and various urban areas.
Big Travis cuz it was him and his white teammate on the pile so they wouldn’t of heard
Big Travis said the same thing
@@greggorysteward8915 *you said it. Some would some wouldn't. That right there would clear it up. But nobody hesitated for a moment. Proves he didn't say it(according to your theory)!🤔*
Wiley: Let me explain why OJ had to do it!!!
Classic!!! Lol!!!
Hahahaha
j'amuse
Basically...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Marcellus Wiley has been married 20 times he will buy anything
😂😂😂
Joe Forte
😂
Where did you get that from? I can't find anything to confirm he's been married more than once. Not cool to spread lies about people.
4:00 "Racial slurs go both ways." So then why is it that only the ones toward black players get punished?
Because of American History.
Because of the WHITE racism.
Blacks never made Jim Crow Law.
...now did they!?!
@@zutrue what does this have to do with what I said? Are you saying racial slurs towards whites are ok and should go unpunished?
@@sergeiyzerman7240 It has to do with the racial history. The social structure. And the over all effect.
This ridiculous attempt at distortion of FACT crumbles in consideration and comparison to
the above. Your slurs were codified into LAWs. And justified as LEGALITY. So use your preposterous attempt at distortion
on RUMPLUCKERs like yourself. Not on someone who is WOKE.
@@zutrueLotta big words, but still avoiding the question (woke tactic). Is racial slurs towards whites ok or not?
@@sergeiyzerman7240 There is no question that from a strictly moral point of view, NO...using racial slurs toward whites is NOT ok. That was not my focus in the first place.
For me, there was never any question about
the fact that it was wrong!!! Just as there is
no question that RUMPLICKERs use it, slurs against white, reverse racism, ect. as a distorting tactic to HISTORY of RACISM in
America and WHO is the primary perpetrator of that history.
Here’s Wiley’s logic: Rudolph says he didn’t escalate...his apology was six days later... scripted... insincere...THEREFORE....he used the ‘n’ word.
Brilliant.
And when whitlock presses him how does that make you believe he used the n word? Wiley: BECAUSE!
And the b word. 🤦♂️
No what he is saying is show me a time that Myles had lied. Now show me a time that Rudolph lied. Oh you can't show one for Garrett but you can for Mason? Well in that case I'm going to take the side of the person who has a more reliable personality
Paul Schuster I’d love to leave a like, but you’re already at 69. So here’s my like lol
He’s saying if you’re lying about one thing... what else are you lying about
Wiley sounds smart but I don’t think he has common sense.🤦🏻♂️
na, he’s def a high IQ guy....but somebody’s gotta be the contrarian
Ronald Kregar I think you're right, they probably said that the desk had to have different takes. Cause Marcellus' take, was just I'm listening to Myles cause he's black and not mason, cause he's white.
@- Cicero he literally went to COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY with a 4.0 GPA. Obvious racist comment 😂😂😂😂😂
- Cicero idk about low IQ... he went to Columbia didn’t he? That’s an IV leauqe school. But I agree he lacks common sense at times
@@JoshuaKimbrough "There's no God at Columbia which is why there is no wisdom at Columbia". He's probably knowledgable but it's not wise to just believe any kind of allegation without proper evidence.
I dont disagree with Wiley, but I completely disagree with him on this topic
These are all opinions and not facts. That’s what makes it hard to decide. The minute a audio recording comes out one could either be completely right or completely wrong.
I don't know how...Marcellus and Lavar are actually using logic...Whitlock is using emotional frustrations as his reasoning.
@@boricuafrican1 What video did you watch?! Wiley is using a bunch of contextual BS! He believes Garrett using what facts?!
@@JTorr that there's no reason to NOT believe him....that's exactly the point that you or Whitlock can't seem to understand...that's logic.......to say you DON'T believe him because Jussie Smollett lied or because it's 7 days later or etc is NOT logic.
@SteelCityBL!ZT what? no one is accusing Rudolph of saying that but Garrett who said he heard him say it....wtf are you talking about?
My problem isn’t Whitlock’s opinion it’s the way he interrupted the guests he disagrees with.
Well at the time it was his show. Everyone how has a show dose it
This might be the dumbest position Marcellus has ever been forced to take
Christian Kensing arguments for ratings, let’s never agree and get rich !
Marcellus sounds like an idiot
station4hiphop me or Marcellus? I had forgotten the Kap quote, that’s up at the top too
station4hiphop ummm... ok....
@@javonttewilliams8663 This is the only response thats true! FACTS!!!
Im sure if it was said, dude wouldve told every man on that field what he said and the situation wouldve been worse
Especially the two large black men that were involved on the other team trying to subdue other black man
Wiley can’t let that “brotherhood” go. Come on. A week later?
Why does it matter when it came out smh
M. Camp Garrett didnt lose himself all over a guy trying to take his helmet off.. lets cut the nonsense hes twice the size of rudolph.. Garrett probably felt pressured after the game and didnt want to make it about a race thing and didnt want to make the situation even worse than it was
Mason Rudolph yelled “This is MAGA country!” Aaaahahahahaaaa!!
Yeah, Make America Great Again has become a racial slur. Typical
Jennifer Duncan - Sad, isn’t it? And for the love of god, don’t do this! 👌 You’ll be permabanned from Cubs games.
Mason Rudolph aint no angel...people at Oklahoma State didnt like him because he use to start stuff on campus
Alfred Jones - Like what? I’m an OU fan and followed OSU reasonably closely. Never heard a word about Rudolph being a bad guy. He was definitely aggravating this situation by pulling at Garrett’s helmet and doing a push-kick to Garrett’s crotch (watch the video. It’s there). The stuff about the N word... no. Not buying it. And I’m very sorry to see Garrett go. Amazing talent and he’s going to lose almost everything for an out of character reaction.
Back to it. I haven’t ever heard anything bad about Rudolph. He always reminded me o OSU’s version of Landry Jones. Squeaky clean. Almost a great player. No killer instinct.
Listen to you idiots
Wiley is really pulling at straws here to defend Garrett
He speaks like a lawyer. A bad one.
whitlock said something interesting he mad at garrett playing the race card. but not mad at rudolph calling garrett an bully. throwing more dirt on his name when he started everything but couodnt finish it. he still hasnt apologize for those lors he told on camera like he was so innocent
@@mrkeels89 you killed your argument with bad spelling and confusion.
@@mrkeels89 calling someone a bully (whether it be a lie or not), & someone clearly lying about being called the "N" word are two totally different things. You can't compare those at all
You compare bully with a racial slur
If all else fails, play the race card.
@jjosephdubya yeah, that makes sense.
B.S HE SAID IT...MYLES BEING A BLACK MAN N AMERICA DNT HAVE CHANCE. . OF COURSE HE SHOULD KEPT HIS MOUTH CLOSED.....QUARTERBACK ALL INNOCENT STRAIGHT BS
@@Listening4n0w go back to Africa then and enjoy all the modern conveniences there.
@@jayd.b.9729 LOL... Hey Devil you sound angryyyyyyy!!! Grrrrrrrr 😈
Or just dismiss anything about race that makes you uncomfortable, like most racists who use jargon such as “the race card”
None of this is worth even speaking about!
Facts either let them fight or stop talling about it.
The NFL has the entire field mic'd why don't they pull it up.....hmmmm
Rudolph helmet didn't have a mic in it..
Marcellus Wiley is out of his mind on this one.
He's an idiot. What classes did he take at Columbia
He's out of his mind on a lot of takes
@@megankeksey8313 what did he say that was wrong ?
Of course he's wrong....his commentary opposes the little white narrative that you pale males and your black sycophants like to tell yourselves about equality and merit.
in case of emergency break glass and pull out race card .wiley still believes jussie smollett
@R J drop your sociology class lol
Kendrick Moore if you want to judge a group of people for the actions of others, especially people from a different generation, don’t then say you shouldn’t judge black people on the actions of others ie crime statistics. You can’t have it both ways. You can judge as a group or you can judge as an individual. You can’t have both
@R J tell us more, racist coward.
Wiley, holding onto that race card, can't let that crutch go.
When black people get reparation will stop using the race card
@@TitusT21
No they wouldnt.
@@TitusT21 Well lets see 40 years of social safety net targeting poor and low income, affirmative action, preferential grants, loans, and treatment in education see weighted SAT scores. Give a flat dollar value, and it will be too small. No matter what, for some nothing will ever be enough
Crutch you Caucasian fool you're the one with the crutch leaning on the treacherous wickedness of your ancestors to build your wealth but a reckoning is coming blood for blood eye for an eye lol haha
Never
It took him a week to say this. I have a hard time believing he said it.
How do you know it didn't happen there are people who been victimized and didn't say a word for years now hitting him in the head may have been overboard but the Quarterback isn't innocent either.
It was in an appeal hearing. That’s why he didn’t say anything previously
Ummmmmmm ... different profession yet, the same theme... how is it that Garrett espousing that this nobody QB used racial slurs several days after the incident but, white women came forward decades after the fact to accuse Cosby and they were totally believable.... lmatfo!!!! Typical of Mr. Charlie.
Nah....he went to the league and they leaked it out. Garrett actually said he wanted them to release the audio.
Of course you do.
Wiley debating this subject like he's a member of the Democrat party.
Mark D Lol he probably is
I bet Wiley subscribes to Identity politics
He's just playing devils advocate, it's all for show for people on these "debate" shows to disagree.
They have both sides here too, which makes everyone feel represented lol.
Mark D You would move the goalpost I’m the argument regardless. If I slapped you 7 days ago and you didn’t tell anybody for 7 days, does it change the fact that you were slapped 7 days ago?
why are you bringing up identity politics you tribal psychos put a party under everything.
Release the mic’d up off both Myles & Mason. That’s it.
No way they will. Last thing in the world the NFL wants is to let CNN and them know just how often that kind of talk goes around in every single game
Not everyone is micd up during the game
@@frankzappa9148 the QB and star players are def mic'd up.
@@Piface2099 so they need to stop lying and saying there is absolutely no evidence of mason saying anything racist. release the audio if there's nothing there. let us know if Myles is a liar or not.
Game wasnt mic'd up. I already looked it up.
Wiley is a clown. Dude he lied get over it.
@Petty Ceddy NOBODY heard it
@Petty Ceddy We all would rat out our QB If he said that, wtf are you on? That's beyond team loyalty. So mason whispered a slur and then tried to grab his helmet off??? Can I sell you magic jumping beans?
@Quinton Rogers what proof do you want from Myles he told what happen lol
@Quinton Rogers what kind of proof are you gonna get like do you hear your self lol 😂😂😂😂😂
@Quinton Rogers are you high how is he supposed to show you evidence when it was a confrontation on the field. Like what do you want recording of him saying it ????
6:40, He's absolutely right. The night of the game, Garrett was heated and let his emotions take over, leading him to do something stupid. 6 days later after writing an apology, he realized what "rest of the season" actually meant and did something dumber. If I'm wrong, I'll come back here and apologize.
He lying Baker already came out and said this was the 1st he even heard about this. Gtfoh Wiley turnin into a clown
@Richard Hostetler He lost control, total control, but controlled saying what happened to cause it to everyone, even his coach.
This is most likely not how he really feels, every show needs at least one person to disagree with the majority
Baker dont play defense
@@Visionoyd so it ain't strange to you that Myles didn't tell any of his teammates that Mason called him a slur? That would be the first thing I told my teammates, coach, ref, and the media.
Richard Hostetler Said something to the proper authorities and that was his coaches and GM’s they said that that was not new to them they had heard about it and in his post game interview when the interviewer asked him if something was said from Mason to him they started the fight he said that the NFL need to go check it out and he wasn’t go comment on it until later on so he told people that something was said he just didn’t say exactly
You dropped the balls on this one Marcellus. If someone called me that, I would have let people know during my press conference
Would love to know Schlereth's inner thoughts watching these three black men argue over this....
@Toodank2bunderstood 😂
Whatever Rudolph said, whatever Rudolph did, it still DID NOT warrant the hit with the helmet on the head. Now if Rudolph made some racial comment to Garrett during the incident, if Garrett took a few swings at him with his fist, I'd be okay with that as sad as they may seem.
The guy who has the year suspension is the one that assaulted someone- now y’all are the word police
They always change standard to benefit them
He assaulted the person that assaulted him first. How does everyone miss Rudolph pulling on his helmet when the videos clearly show he did it. But you act like he did wasn't anything.
@@sneakypete139 you clowns that equate face mask tugging to a cracked skull are the best kind of morons.
Once you say “assault” it takes nfl out of it. He has two enemies in his face and one actively reaching to hit him. I believe in the eyes of a courtroom this is clear self defense.
Anyway Mason has it coming for dropping the N bomb.
I agree with whitlock. We need to move on from victimhood and start accepting personal responsibility.
Tell that to the Jews.
@Ray Lat when good people stand by and say nothing snowballs turn into avalanches
@@thebestkoala when it rains it pours
I agree
Adriano Stafford the Jews let it go a long time ago
Garrett is trying to save his rear end. I don't believe him.
Why should you white man
@Tony Saracen you like being that guy?
@@corteztank7568 you too lol. You realize that black people don't believe him as well . If you only knew how petty and weak minded you seem.
Your white duh smh
I believe Miles
Look at Whitlock lying and tap dancing around the situation... he don't even know what players were involved🤔
Ask Jim Brown how many times he was called the "N" word.
Stephen Hughley who’s Jim Brown?
Big D 63 I seriously hope that you are just making a joke! I’m sure you are. But I just need to know!
Tim Hauck lol,but a lot of people don’t know.
@@timhauck933 unless you are like his age or only 20 years younger you shouldnt be surprised if someone doesnt know who he is lol
@@sdj6353 that is blasphemous!
Nobody remembers how Russell Westbrook reacted when a fan called him a racial slur??? Did he wait before exposing this?
Exactly
Did he? I don’t remember
@@kanyeeast1340 lol he mentioned it right away and got the guy banned for life
I think his agent or lawyer told him to say this.
VERDUCHI MAN exactly
Jew lawyer.
This actually makes the most sense...good point
As a black man listening to Marcellus and Lavar make me feel no hope for the Youth of the black community if their elders respond to violence in this way. As black men and women we have to understand that words do not warrant physical assault or abuse. Black people get whooped when they are children for saying things not only for actions. Those are good teaching moments to help a young child understand what they're saying is wrong, but instead of majority of us got whooped instead. No white person ever whipped me, the only whipping I got came from a person look exactly like me. Lesson here is a real man keeps his composure no matter what is said. You can never justify your violence because someone called you a word. Try that in court or to God and see where that gets you. Marcellus and Lavar it's time to grow up and evolve. Think of the message you send to the children.
Josh Verrett great comment!
@@SHA8UTIE thank you, happy I could weigh in
There's literally no way to know either way, so people should just reserve judgment and shut up about it.
Aaron Humphrey except Garrett apologized to Rudolph in a statement and never told the media or teammates about the alleged slur. We can use logic when looking at the circumstantial evidence and make reasonable inferences.
@@Superduperreverb Shhhhh 🤫
QBs are miked right? Players were standing around them, right? Stadiums are loud, not that loud.
Mason said
“This MAGA Country”
Is that a Jussie Smollet joke ??
Lol. Exactly
Marcellus contradicts himself about 12 different times in this segment. You can always tell when Marcellus is trying to bs because he starts using the word “context” too much and usually in an unintelligible manner
Sean Lutke I like how after three minutes of rambling Whitlock cut him off with a “how does that make garrett credible”.
This is most likely not how he really feels, every show needs at least one person to disagree with the majority
Jeremiah Johnson nah that’s Lavar on this show you can tell because he’s laughing throughout the argument especially when Whitlock calls out on his basketball game story. Wiley is trying to impress max kellerman.
@@dannytallmadge2161 but that's stupid to ask because Wiley's point is that Garrett is not "NOT credible"....Whitlock was trying to make it seem like Wiley is trying to say Garrett is right when Wiley was simply saying that you can't say Garrett is wrong.... that's called twisting someone's point.
boricuafrican the question was are you buying this. And Wiley starts off saying I buy it 100 percent. I think maybe you missed what Wiley’s point was.
If I got shot in front of Wiley, he'd blame me for being white.
Lavar tells his story, remembering all of that but then cant remember if he told his coaches or anyone else....f'n bs... 😂🤣😂🤣😂
STEELER 4 LIFE he’s trying to say that you can temporarily forget about in the moment
@@stun2187 bs
Mark is a smart man keeping his mouth shut almost this whole clip lol
Look at his skin color. You know he has to watch his words especially if he is siding with the white guy. Am i right?
He knows better than that
white people aren't allowed to have opinions on racial issues
👍🍻
jsunh98 What?!? LOL? According to who?
When all else fails, pull the race card.
@greenlantern699 he'll be the one locking up Obama and his cabal
I try to keep a full deck of race cards with me at all times
White supremacist
When in doubt blame the black man.
Pink and Gold glitter kitty When all else fails, blame the white man.
I don't care if a racial slur was used or not! That doesn't justify physical violence period!
Yea Wiley, I always wait at least a week to tell the truth after something happens to me.
*Lmao that's when the appeal meeting took place, you idiot.*
@@JayTheRealest1 Lol Garrett was interviewed *right after the game* ! That's not a good time? Why wait a week when you have a platform immediately following the incident?! BS!
Especially with your job on the line, amirite? If someone was BSing about me at my place of work, I'd be talkin up a STORM about how they were lying right off the bat; Not waiting 8 days. Either way, name-calling doesn't warrant physical violence. Isn't that what we teach children? "Words will never hurt me." But a helmet will!
Oh my god, who could ever believe Wiley after his observation.
Nosara 🙋🏽♂️
Wiley made some good points...
or he could be disagreeing for the sake of debate, i like wiley but I think he's off base on this one
Wiley made some very good points
I believe Wiley
Wiley is so frustrating. Arrington actually being reasonable in defending him Wiley is just blatantly biased and making no sense
Makes a lot sense. You will never understand something to something you haven't been through.
Stanley B how is he not making sense?
Wow this just got really bad for Myles Jessie Smollet Garrett
Hahahah
Amen!
"I have more then enough reason not blieve Mason Rudolph" lmao , so basically he is white and Garett is black .
Hypocrisy and race card in action
kankasin he literally explained his point immediately after
Eks TheGod they don't wanna here that.
Wiley and the other dude think Jussie is also telling the truth 🤣
lmao
I agree!!!
Why does Garrett deserve benefit of doubt?
He's the accuser.
TallCoolDrink Because Rudolph was the aggressor!
Edwin Henry how. Garret hit mason after he got the ball off. That’s what got mason mad & trying to push garret off of him.
Rudolph was the aggressor the whole way.
@@edwinhenry7531
Do you know if Rudolph called Garrett the "n" word?
@@ThyKing25 Garrett gets roughing the passer all the time.
8 seconds left in the game and pile drives Rudolph into the ground?
That's unnecessary and Garrett deserved everything that has been given to him. He tried use the race card in his appeal and it didn't work, now he looks stupid.
Jussie Smollett and others like him makes me not believe Garret.
Mike X so the hoaxes are justified in your eyes.
myles said the night in an interview the fight happened he got out of control and made a mistake and had to own up to it. No angry no rage he was calm and admitted the fight shouldn't of happened. A WEEK LATER after hes been suspended he says well actually rudolf called me a racial slur? Myles is willing to ruin another players reputation over this.
Marcellus"smollett" Wiley.
Jay Raz LMFAO
Lol
Nobody:
Wiley: "Joosey Smooyey is innocent"
It's Juicy Smul-yey, sir. lol
Lol yep basically
Red Hood lmfao
Subway? SANDWICHES?!?
There's a reason Whitlock doesn't have a job anywhere anymore
truth isn't accepted on mainstream tv, ask Kyrie
Wiley is clown. Nobody said a word about this after the game or for a week.
Ogie Oglethorpe doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. None of us know
@@MalevolentElephant lol...I can't for my life understand why since people don't immediately hear a complete story they think there is no story to hear...
Aren't QB's usually mic'd on Thursday nights?
NFL films probably knows if he said it or not.
great point
Cheeky Nffc Right. Which means if the word was really said during the game, one of the mics would have picked it up.
If Myles heard it then why didn’t anyone else
Rick Beam thank you my dude . Mason would be literally a dead man walking from both teams . Myles is lying and I’m black
@@TheAJOlding Exactly
Steelers players were holding Garrett back. Would you think the Steelers teammates would snitch on him?
@@tuavaresm steelers players would have no problem goin to the media against mason. 😂😂😂 he wont be on the team much longer anyway.
Rick Beam they did hear it and I’m sure a mic picked it up and I’m sure the NFL circles the wagons.
Our nation needs a serious talk about racial slur hoaxes
First guy used logic and the second guy used emotion.
Conservative vs liberal debate in a nutshell
Everyone has their opinion, but the truth of the matter is,no one knows what happened between those 2,but something was said,something happened to start it all
I thought Antonio Brown was a joke man Garrett’s taking this to another level.
You're coming Garrett to Brown? Wow.. 😂 not even close
Andrew Azurdia I think AB has brain damage. We need to rethink when we see weird conduct.
Thats inspiring we need more chaos like this in the nfll
I doubt that Garrett would wait til now to point that out. He would've told his team and they would've made this public sooner.
In fact when those Steelers linemen were in his face he would've told them.
Are u named Myles Garrett.?? I hate those comments pretending to know exactly How another persons mind works
@@gabo8954 are you
@@christophergraves3113 No but Im not pretending to know How another person would act like Manu folks here, thats all
Myles said mason told him something in the same night but he add look at it , I'm not saying anything
Are we still pretending saying a word justifies in any way what Garrett did. Says a lot about this whole "racism" thing.
You could see the tears in Wiley's eyes. He is too emotionally invested in this to be credible. Take a step back man and relax.
There's something off with Garrett. Even his team is keeping him at arm's length.
No they aren't.
@@cemarz Right. The team is fully behind Myles. Dan H is full of it! SMH!
You’re a clown... because clearly you have your finger on the pulse of the browns locker room...
you don’t pick a fight with someone..
then decide to pull out a bat..
and then have that person you’re fighting take that bat away from you... and your continue to escalate the fight and get in his face..
Don’t act surprised if you get hit..
Ps Whitlock is fat
@Eric Bergeson Okay, Max
Who would have thought it would come to this? What a surprise.
The lightest person did get off..who would of thought.. what a surprise
@@durellscott9411 Its time to pick another narrative your white man gets away with everything is getting played out.
@@sean1849 And the narrative that blacks always play the race card is a lie..true blacks don't give a fuc about fitting in
@@durellscott9411 the guy who bashes the other guy in the head with a helmet got suspended..... THAT'S RACISM!!!😂
@@durellscott9411 yeh thats why black ppl started wearing tight skinny pants and bending the brims on their ball caps so they werent flat anymore
Any respect I had for Wiley is gone ... smh I didn't realize he was like that
I mean respect for his opinion
Steven D that’s why it’s an opinion bro lol get out your feelings
You should've, did you hear his tales on Antonio Brown, lol. He's been awful lately
You didn't expect blind racial allegiance from a black man?! Hahahahahahahahaha
@@hugechromepeach7916 lol