I've also often wondered why the same people look up at the same time the trigger is pulled to see if they have hit the target. Guess it is true, you cannot teach a crab to walk straight.
I have one of each but they are no longer made and are expensive on the used market. This rifle looks functional. I have a Chiappa copy of the Marlin 49, also has the aluminum receiver that is aluminum and case colored. Accurate and is also a takedown. Winchester should offer a case colored option , as well as other calibers and a 24 inch barrel version
I have a 94-22 M XTR. In 22 Magnum both it new in 1981 for $300. Pretty pricey in 1981. Still like a new gun. I see where they are selling upwards of $1700 now.
I welcome this new rimfire rifle. Anything that isn’t an AR is welcome but I’m disappointed Ruger hasn’t introduced a Marlin 39A yet. That was the best .22 LR lever action.
That gun is a piece of junk I don't even know how to load it with my Winchester I have right now it is more awesome than that 1 and when it needs to be cleaned I take it to a gunsmith
@@Jeanie363034 how can you possibly know it’s a better rifle? They aren’t even out yet. The Henry rifles I’ve had experience with don’t set a high bar for function .
Ease of disassembly is a sight for sore eyes! Really would like to see a "heritage" or "heirloom" version with a blued steel reciever, barrel, and barrel band, gold trigger, higher grade walnut, etc. keep that under $700 and it would go flying off the shelves!
They made a rifle to hit a very attractive $400 MSRP price point. These may actually sell quite well. But nothing is going to take a bite out of the Ruger 10/22 sales. 🤠
I’ve got a Ruger 10/22. There’s nothing impressive about it. I also have a Winchester Wildcat, which I like better than the 10/22. It’s what the 10/22 should’ve evolved into over the years. I’m looking forward to buying the lever action as well. I’ve got a Henry and a Browning lever action 22. Nothing has come close to the Browning though. This Winchester Lever action will be quite similar to the Henry, with the exception of the action being billet aluminum. I don’t think it’ll be better or worse as far as shooting it, and operating the lever.
Good luck finding parts in the future. Winchester will require you to send it in and they, like Ruger, will strip out any custom work, and return it to stock. No parts returned. Winchester may not be able to get the parts, or might be a wait of several months. Mirorku is high quality generally, but God help you if you need parts.
Looks like a better design than the 9422 but the matt finish and aluminum parts says the quality is not there. The front barrel band going up to the front sight is a no go as well.
They look like they are trying to copy some of the new lever guns by doing it which is fine functionally but since this is a lever gun it would be nice if it had a more traditional look. I don't know if it is aluminum too but needs to be steel.@@texaspatriot9159
@@Strutingeagle Oh ok I got you. I personally like where the barrel band is located on it. I'm curious to know if it cycles 22 short hopefully it does.
It's almost the same take down as the 9422, but you can clearly see that the component quality is no where near the old 9422. If you are going to hand down a rifle buy a good quality second hand 9422 they are just such a nice rifle. I'm speaking from experience I have 9422 XTR and 9422M XTR
It is lighter. Time to machine. This reduce the cost. Bits and machines last longer. Replacement and maintenance and repairs are less, reducing the cost. And if you say you will be willing to pay for steel receivers, why did they stop production of the rifles with steel receivers? Like many of the well made but more expensive rifles of other brands as well. Because people ran to lower cost rifles, no matter how it is made. You know, like that low cost fake receiver cover things with plastic parts all over it.
The company is focusing on profits , not quality . That’s why it’s aluminum ; not steel . “It’s just a.22 ; it don’t need to be made that good ! Yee-Haw !” No thanks .
Awsome video. I'm a Winchester man. I own Winchester rifles that have been passed down the oldest was made in 1898. M1894 32_40. I still is original and shoots fine. I have a Winchester 94 22m. I hope the ranger is as perfect as that. It has big shoes to fill. 😊 I'm going to try one. It better be good. I'm very particular about my rifles. I'm willing to pay for quality. And I want Winchester.
They might not be new haven fire arms. But the ones I have seen are very well made. I wish they were still made here in USA. I have a few Henry lever action rifles and they are very good too
Only novices lower the rifle to work the lever while shooting. The left hand on the fore stock presses the rifle butt into the shoulder, the cheek stays on the comb, the sight picture is maintained, and the right hand works the lever.
As someone pointed out below, ever heard of the Nylon 66? PLASTIC recievers and the guns from the 50's still run great. I'm sure this one will do fine.
So Winchester has gone to Turkey to make this gun, even though it has traditional Winchester markings. I see they cleverely hid the c/o markings under the lever.
@@94twentytwo76 Yup. It'll last anyones lifetime. Thought UN goal is to remove all firearms from citizens. So any gun needs to last to the grandchildren's children
@jimbischoff1184 You know what, I can live with that. At least it is not zamak like Henry uses. AR receivers are machined out of aluminum, and they work fine.
The Henry .22 is a remake of the Euro-Ithaca. It uses painted side plates over a cast Zamak internals. In other words, regardless of where the Henry Ithaca is made, it is a cheap POS. At least the new Winchester is billet aluminum and not die cast pot metal Zamak V.
@@texaspatriot9159 Also watched the rep interview on another channel from Shot Show and he didn't say it cycles .22 short. Did say they tried ammo from just about every brand imaginable and .22LR cycled very well with all of them.
Why would you not get a henry instead??? Its made in America, not Turkey. The henry also has a no questions asked lifetime guarantee.. it might even be cheaper?? 👍🏻😀🇺🇸
The Henry is a pain to take apart - this design disassmbles with one threaded pin. The Winchester can be taken down for transport and storage, something henry should have offered long ago. The reciever is machined billet aluminum which is hard anodized to resist scratching. The Henry has a painted pot metal reciever. Inexpensive, no zinc based metal, made in the USA: pick two of these qualities because you can't have all three.
@@FrancisBecka 👍🏻 you have made a good point. The unconditional guarantee Henry offers still makes them hard to beat. Maybe technically cheaper made but also fixed for free if there is ever a problem. Both are super cool however!! I would be happy with both!!
Hell yeah it would be nice. A person could then put on a muzzle silencer device and pretend he is in a special forces team. It would be totally worth taking it off every time to load the ammo into the tube too. Get one of the silencer devices and pay the tax for it so the ATF can have some more money to operate on. @@Gooobzilla
How do you load it I don't really like that gun even if I had that kind of money I wouldn't waste it on that I only buy if I really like it and if it needs to be cleaned I take it to a gunsmith that's what I do anyway
Winchester gun company doesn’t exist anymore and hasn’t for decades. Certain manufacturers have licensed the Winchester rifle name. Only thing actually Winchester these days is Winchester Ammo, which is part of Olin.
Maybe you are upset at the wrong people?? Government over taxation, and over regulation drove these companies away!!! They didnt leave for the hell of it!!!😏
There are more than 1.3 million people living in modern slavery in Turkey, which ranks fifth among 151 countries in which modern slavery is the most prevalent, according to the results of the 2023 Global Slavery Index. The study, which concerns data in 2021, was produced by the Australian-based human rights organization Walk Free P
@@mtower235 wow whatever it takes to make you feel better about people in chains and guns pointed at the back of their heads ... unbelievable how someone would try to justify slavery... holy crap
I would buy a U.S. made steel and walnut one ; I’d just save up for it a while longer . The 9422 was selling very well ; & wasn’t overpriced , either . The focus was changed more to the bottom line ; not quality . I’m hoping that it’s a disastrous failure .
@@JimBischoff1184 "I’m hoping that it’s a disastrous failure ." That is just showing that you just don't want to give it a chance and you dismiss it before anything else. If anything, I hope that is will be a success just to you not to judge something by your prejudiced attitude.
Seems like a nostalgic cheap copy of the 94/22 from a random country in europe Come on winchester you should be a head in terms of lever action craftmanship and quality John browning must be ashamed
Bolt looks good too bad your accountants got in the way of letting your overseas slaves have to replace tooling twice as much on a cnc machining center and make the action out of steel hell the new cz 22 semi auto is $1000 for now I’ll just pray Ruger makes a real 22 lever gun the marlin 39 see I am who will buy a 22 lever gun for my grandkids expecting it to last not fall apart in ten years
FN Herstal owns the Winchester name, thus some guns made here or there. Olin Corp owns Winchester Ammo, and makes most of the ammo domestically. Win .22 is universally garbage, but centerfire ammo is top notch.
@@chrisp308 Well, as someone who diagnosed firearms problems for a living, A: Change ammo and see if that works B: Have your chamber gauged to see if it is in spec. C: Check the extractor for function as it might not be slipping over the case rim. My agency bought millions of rounds of ammo ( Remington ) and found the occasional missing/backwards/sideways primer or bullet, and once a 300Blk in a box of 223. But these are micro percentages in millions of rounds. It is too easy to manufacture dimensionally correct ammo, so if half of what you have won't chamber then maybe the problem is on your end.
@@rimfirejunkie7427 if that's the case then why does every other brand work perfect in my rifle chamber? Maybe it was a bad lot I got a hold of, I will order a good pair of calipers but luckily I only purchased one box
@@chrisp308 Could be something as simple as tolerance stacking. SAAMI has minimum and maximum dimensions for ammo and chambers. If your chamber was on the tailend of the life of the reamer ( worn down = smaller hole, but in spec ) and the brass forming die was also worn ( larger brass ) then the dimensions could possibly overlay each other, and gun no worky.
How do you figure that? With a solid 1pc billet anodized Aluminum receiver on the Winchester as compared to the pot metal painted clamshell cover on the receiver of the Henry? Not to mention the advantage the one piece receiver adds if mounting an optic on one of these! Remember we are only talking .22lr pressures here not 300 Winchester Magnum!
They are both POS rifles. manufactured as cheaply as possible. I know that is the way to make money now days, but, what a sacrifice. Give me some Walnut and Steel Please.@@billwiley7216
O boy Winchester puts out another junk gun made in Turkey . Fit and finish are crappy and how long will Winchester stand behind it ? Buy American the job you save mite be your own. Boycott Winchester until they move back to the USA. Check out Henry"s H001 classic its a much better lever gun and they stand behind it as long as you own it. MADE IN AMERICA OR NOT MADE AT ALL Love my Henry
Just a cheap ploy to soak up dollars from folks with any residual memory of what Winchester used to be. Sad part is that if they do buy it, they will miss old Winchester even more. If you aren't proud of where you have it made, don't make it there. Yes, it still has the Winchester name, but there is no longer any pride in ownership. If you just have to have something that says Winchester, Wal-Mart has a whole collection of cheap outdoors crap with the name plastered all over it. The ammunition is still good from my experiences and made in America, but it is a separate company.
@@sjhoff No, Henry .22 is made as cheap as possible. Just look as that cheap painted pewter type alloy receiver cover to make it to look like a real rifle and the plastic fittings where it should be metal.
@@L.V-Rider Bud, everyone has been doing that with .22 receivers for years. You aren't likely to get people to buy milled steel receivers in the quantity to justify production costs. Sorry, I wish everyone made things like Winchester, Remington, Marlin, Colt, etc. did in the early 1900's, but that isn't reality. Especially since it is not a necessity in a .22 rifle. Ruger 10/22 has similar upper receiver material and a plastic bottom end and trigger housing. As far as Henry, give them a little respect for staying American and not being like Winchester and the rest, flooding the US with cheap products from the Islamic caliphate of Turkey. You think it doesn't make the gun grabbers happy that it is hurting domestic makers and domestic production?
@@sjhoff "everyone has been doing that with .22 receivers for years." - So why do you complain if Winchester do it? Saying : "Just a cheap ploy to soak up dollars ...." and then say "but that isn't reality. Especially since it is not a necessity in a .22 rifle." "As far as Henry, give them a little respect for staying American .... " - But you are just to happy to use cellphones, computer and many other items the East. And why should I ? I look at the product if it is quality or not, not who made it. Other comments on here complain about "slave labour" in the manufacturing and pretend to feel sorry for those workers but they don't want to give them a opportunity to earn a living. This is the internet, everybody is not American, I am not. So you want to take the food out of the mouths for people like me. It is all about you, isn't it? And yes, I have a Winchester 9422, not because it is American made, but because it is a quality item I like.
Turkey There are more than 1.3 million people living in modern slavery in Turkey, which ranks fifth among 151 countries in which modern slavery is the most prevalent, according to the results of the 2023 Global Slavery Index. The study, which concerns data in 2021, was produced by the Australian-based human rights organization Walk Free
@@danmarcell3167 And Americans are just to willing to buy items like that. Besides, how do you know if this factory falls under the same category? And, what you call slavery is a outcome for them else they have no, zero income. Other people envy them for having a job. Stop comparing 1st world country way if living to developing countries.
@@L.V-Rider you do understand that it says "Forced Slavery" which means there is no choice..no financial gain at all... and a gun at the back of your head for yout whole life... I can't imagine anyone being envious... holy shit ...that's so sick
@@danmarcell3167 Do you believe everything you read on the internet or in books on on any other media? Do you believe all the propaganda from human rights organisations? That is a lie. Have you been there to verify yourself ? I can tell you a lot about propaganda you don't know.
I have never understood why people unshoulder lever actions to work the lever.
Me neither. For that matter, you shouldn’t unsolder a bolt action either.
They aren't familiar with using them, that's why. Or if they are, they weren't taught technique.
They are ignorant, and don't have experience to know any better.
some of the clunkier ones are much easier to actuate like that, but with a .22 they pretty much all work easily
I've also often wondered why the same people look up at the same time the trigger is pulled to see if they have hit the target. Guess it is true, you cannot teach a crab to walk straight.
I hope they make a polished and blued model rather than the matte finished one they’re showing. The disassembly is brilliant
.22 magnum with polished blued finish.
@@556suppressor absolutely!
blued aluminium?
@@WayStedYou blued barrel steel and lever
They won’t unfortunately. The cost would double and sales will fall as a result.
Smiling in 94/22 XTR . You know , the steel model. It and the Marlin 39 are still the top levergun rimfires ever made.
I have one of each but they are no longer made and are expensive on the used market. This rifle looks functional. I have a Chiappa copy of the Marlin 49, also has the aluminum receiver that is aluminum and case colored. Accurate and is also a takedown. Winchester should offer a case colored option , as well as other calibers and a 24 inch barrel version
I have a 94-22 M XTR. In 22 Magnum both it new in 1981 for $300. Pretty pricey in 1981. Still like a new gun. I see where they are selling upwards of $1700 now.
I welcome this new rimfire rifle. Anything that isn’t an AR is welcome but I’m disappointed Ruger hasn’t introduced a Marlin 39A yet. That was the best .22 LR lever action.
I like the ease of disassembly for cleaning.
That gun is a piece of junk I don't even know how to load it with my Winchester I have right now it is more awesome than that 1 and when it needs to be cleaned I take it to a gunsmith
Replace that screw in pin with one like a saddle ring so it can be unscrewed by hand not requiring tools.
Ranger Point Precision probably will sell a takedown knob shortly 😜
Yeah, it looked handy for transporting in a shorter case, but also very losable.
Similar to the larger knurled knob on the Marlin 39A?
@@exothermal.sprocket that would work, but RPP has hand screws with logos like “30-30 WIN” and a T-Rex 😝
This will give Henry some competition. Do you make it in 22 mag?
Would be great to have checkering modeled after the 9422 style checkering.
the Winchester company is too lazy these days to do checkering.
It’s recycled motel furniture ; won’t take checkering ! 😂
I had an 1894 Ranger in 30-30, back in the day, sold in a bundle of other 94's
has the guy in the video never operated a lever gun before? You don't have to take it off your shoulder and look at the rifle to operate the lever
Do any gun companies make and sell a polished blued finish anymore? The matte finish makes it look cheap.
It looks like parkerized.
How do you plan on bluing aluminium exactly
Everything gun related apparently HAS to be tactical ! 🤢🤮👎
I for one don't care for "tactical" modifications/enhancements. I think they are gross. I think in a lot of cases they are detrimental.
Yes, Browning BL 22lr, they are still made with the same quality as the older Winchester 94/22
As long as they run better than Henry’s I’m all in.
Henry H 001 Classic is a MUCH better rifle and Made in America-or not made at all.
@@Jeanie363034 how can you possibly know it’s a better rifle? They aren’t even out yet. The Henry rifles I’ve had experience with don’t set a high bar for function .
Regardless of the Brand Name ... it's a "TURKEY"
I wouldn't call anodized aluminum traditional for a lever action, but hopefully they will expand the line to include blued steel versions.
Exactly
Barrel finish looks rough but otherwise looks good from what I can see in the video. Hopefully it’s reliable.
It's called the Winchester 94-22 or the Browning BL-22
@@404Matt They haven't made the 9422 since about 2004.
@@kman0146 yeah because nobody buys steel lever action 22's. If you want one get one off gun broker.
Ease of disassembly is a sight for sore eyes! Really would like to see a "heritage" or "heirloom" version with a blued steel reciever, barrel, and barrel band, gold trigger, higher grade walnut, etc. keep that under $700 and it would go flying off the shelves!
They made a rifle to hit a very attractive $400 MSRP price point. These may actually sell quite well. But nothing is going to take a bite out of the Ruger 10/22 sales. 🤠
Not to mention also the henry .22 as well. But it nice to see winchester with some "new" lever options that are a little more affordable.
unless you already own a 10/22 and want another lever gun.
@@dimmymackster431 I will take a Winchester over a Henry any time.
probably because of the fact it is made in Turkey. Not US made like Henry.
I’ve got a Ruger 10/22. There’s nothing impressive about it. I also have a Winchester Wildcat, which I like better than the 10/22. It’s what the 10/22 should’ve evolved into over the years.
I’m looking forward to buying the lever action as well. I’ve got a Henry and a Browning lever action 22. Nothing has come close to the Browning though.
This Winchester Lever action will be quite similar to the Henry, with the exception of the action being billet aluminum.
I don’t think it’ll be better or worse as far as shooting it, and operating the lever.
That is F’in awesome. I need one
If it is as well made as my 9422 it will sell well and be a great gun.
I have a 9422. First year of manufacture. 1972. This new gun is made in Turkey. Probably not even comparable to the great 9422.
Good luck finding parts in the future. Winchester will require you to send it in and they, like Ruger, will strip out any custom work, and return it to stock. No parts returned. Winchester may not be able to get the parts, or might be a wait of several months. Mirorku is high quality generally, but God help you if you need parts.
Love my 9422 xtr.. glad to see em make a new 22 lever ( i paid more than $400 😂)
When it comes out in .22 WMR, let me know.
Agreed!
Winchester don’t put out any quantity. Been trying to get an 1892 for years. I call all the time. If it’s not plastic not going to make it
Lets hope they make this in a mares leg pistol !
How about 22mag
Looks like a better design than the 9422 but the matt finish and aluminum parts says the quality is not there. The front barrel band going up to the front sight is a no go as well.
Why is the barrel band being up there a problem? Im curious to know
They look like they are trying to copy some of the new lever guns by doing it which is fine functionally but since this is a lever gun it would be nice if it had a more traditional look. I don't know if it is aluminum too but needs to be steel.@@texaspatriot9159
@@Strutingeagle
Oh ok I got you. I personally like where the barrel band is located on it. I'm curious to know if it cycles 22 short hopefully it does.
Well thought out update to the old 94/22. Hopefully, there will be an upgraded version at some point.
What a great gun, especially for a kid's first gun. It's encouraging to see FN moving them forward.
It's almost the same take down as the 9422, but you can clearly see that the component quality is no where near the old 9422. If you are going to hand down a rifle buy a good quality second hand 9422 they are just such a nice rifle. I'm speaking from experience I have 9422 XTR and 9422M XTR
If they make a winchester 1873 in 22 lr. It would be an instant hit, just like the original 1873 in 22 short .
If a machine shop is milling the aluminum receivers already, why can't they just insert a steel piece and machine that ? What am I missing here ?
It is lighter.
Time to machine. This reduce the cost.
Bits and machines last longer. Replacement and maintenance and repairs are less, reducing the cost.
And if you say you will be willing to pay for steel receivers, why did they stop production of the rifles with steel receivers? Like many of the well made but more expensive rifles of other brands as well. Because people ran to lower cost rifles, no matter how it is made. You know, like that low cost fake receiver cover things with plastic parts all over it.
The company is focusing on profits , not quality . That’s why it’s aluminum ; not steel . “It’s just a.22 ; it don’t need to be made that good ! Yee-Haw !” No thanks .
@@JimBischoff1184 And what material is used in a AR15? All steel? Think again.
I understand the make it cheap philosophy. I prefer steel, not cheaply made. But I'm an old school guy.
cost
Nice! The side of the receiver needs to be drilled and tapped for a Williams peep sight.
And a cup holder on it as well. 😏
I read that it's already drilled for a tang sight.
The take down is sweet
Awsome video. I'm a Winchester man. I own Winchester rifles that have been passed down the oldest was made in 1898. M1894 32_40. I still is original and shoots fine. I have a Winchester 94 22m. I hope the ranger is as perfect as that. It has big shoes to fill. 😊 I'm going to try one. It better be good. I'm very particular about my rifles. I'm willing to pay for quality. And I want Winchester.
Winchester doesn't manufacture any firearms anymore
Then who is making Winchester rifles. My nephew just bought an 1886 45-70. And the name Winchester is on the barrel. It was made in Japan.
@@user-wo2iw3kt8o Winchester firearms is New Haven Connecticut and FNH closed it so no it's not a real Winchester... just a ridiculous knockoff
They might not be new haven fire arms. But the ones I have seen are very well made. I wish they were still made here in USA. I have a few Henry lever action rifles and they are very good too
This thing is made in Turkey.
Only novices lower the rifle to work the lever while shooting. The left hand on the fore stock presses the rifle butt into the shoulder, the cheek stays on the comb, the sight picture is maintained, and the right hand works the lever.
They could have contracted Henry to make it.
Are the barrel bands plastic or metal?
Then I will not buy it.
Made in Turkey.
Metal barrel band
Country of origin? Looks like a neat little rifle. Would LOVE a 16” trapper 💯🍻
I think you know. 🦃
@@Chilly_Billy 😂🍻
Another price point rifle. Nothing about that screams legacy. They days of true blued rifles are over.
😢
If people were willing to spend $1000 on a rimfire that wouldn't be the case.
Then buy a Browning for $800 cheapass
Hate to say it but 100$ less you could pick up a Henry 22 made in the usa
No thanks, I will pay the $100 more.
Does Winchester make any guns in the U.S.A. anymore? Or do they farm everything out.
A lever gun, made from Aluminium in turkey. Yeah sure, it will last for generations…
As someone pointed out below, ever heard of the Nylon 66? PLASTIC recievers and the guns from the 50's still run great. I'm sure this one will do fine.
Ar15, AR10 are all aluminum dummy--works just fine
Needs to be USA made !
Why?
@@L.V-RiderTo employ Americans ; help our own economy , etc .
@@JimBischoff1184 And what about out employment and economy? Everybody on here is not American, you know.
Then when its 800 dollars noone will buy it @@JimBischoff1184
Then get a Henry
So Winchester has gone to Turkey to make this gun, even though it has traditional Winchester markings. I see they cleverely hid the c/o markings under the lever.
Stop whining little kid......it is $400...if it was USA made it would be $600 then you would cry about that.
Steel bolt in an aluminum reciever. Wonder about the durability
It’ll be fine 😎 Ever heard of a Nylon 66?
@@94twentytwo76 Yup. It'll last anyones lifetime.
Thought UN goal is to remove all firearms from citizens. So any gun needs to last to the grandchildren's children
The 1022 says yes
@@Strutingeagle and just about any semiautomatic rimfire 💯🍻 of which 10/22 is king 😎👍🏻
Not only the 10/22, but the many millions of AR-15 based firearms.
If it eas made in Morgan Utah like thr Model 70 I would buy one, by the looks of it most likely Turkey their shot guns have the same look cheap!
Does anyone know where this Winchester Ranger is manufactured?
Turkey.
I'm gonna stick with my Henry rifles
PLEASE!
Tell me...
Is the receiver is steel?
Open your ears and listen to what he said in the video.
Nope ; aluminum .
@jimbischoff1184 You know what, I can live with that. At least it is not zamak like Henry uses.
AR receivers are machined out of aluminum, and they work fine.
Where is it made?
turkey, country of origin
But wait isn’t it a wassasi Turkey model: buy a Henry- made in America by Americans
The Henry .22 is a remake of the Euro-Ithaca. It uses painted side plates over a cast Zamak internals. In other words, regardless of where the Henry Ithaca is made, it is a cheap POS. At least the new Winchester is billet aluminum and not die cast pot metal Zamak V.
Does it cycle 22short ??
Looked all over their site and photos, and there's no information about that.
@@exothermal.sprocket
Thank you
@@texaspatriot9159 Also watched the rep interview on another channel from Shot Show and he didn't say it cycles .22 short. Did say they tried ammo from just about every brand imaginable and .22LR cycled very well with all of them.
@@exothermal.sprocket
Yeah I seen that one too.
I would be interested in it but I need my lever action to be able to cycle shorts also.
@@texaspatriot9159 Henry. Browning. Used market for Winchester or Marlin.
No lever safety/ open lever block from the looks of it isn’t great, and the whole probably made in Turkey part rules it out for me.
I don't want a safety thing on it, it does have the half-cock hammer.
needs a steel receiver not aluminum
then buy a Browning for $800 and STFU
I really want this to succeed but I doubt it's American-made. That still counts, especially traditional brands like Big Red.
So what if it is not American made.
Probably next to impossible to get parts ; & a low quality product to start with ; from the looks of it .
Why would you not get a henry instead??? Its made in America, not Turkey. The henry also has a no questions asked lifetime guarantee.. it might even be cheaper?? 👍🏻😀🇺🇸
The Henry is a pain to take apart - this design disassmbles with one threaded pin. The Winchester can be taken down for transport and storage, something henry should have offered long ago. The reciever is machined billet aluminum which is hard anodized to resist scratching. The Henry has a painted pot metal reciever. Inexpensive, no zinc based metal, made in the USA: pick two of these qualities because you can't have all three.
@@FrancisBecka 👍🏻 you have made a good point. The unconditional guarantee Henry offers still makes them hard to beat. Maybe technically cheaper made but also fixed for free if there is ever a problem. Both are super cool however!! I would be happy with both!!
@@rat65novaman me too - love my Golden Boy.
Is it made in the USA?
Nope ; Turkey 🦃 .
Why can’t anyone make machined steel receiver???
because they dont want to pay $800 dunce
I will stick with an AMERICAN made
Henry rifle period and thank you
"Henry rifle period and thank you" No thanks.
Are they made in America?
Is that made in Japan?
looks like a 22 mag
Did he say 11 degree target chamber? LOL
Yup 😆
Threaded barrel would have been nice.
Hell yeah it would be nice. A person could then put on a muzzle silencer device and pretend he is in a special forces team. It would be totally worth taking it off every time to load the ammo into the tube too. Get one of the silencer devices and pay the tax for it so the ATF can have some more money to operate on. @@Gooobzilla
Are they made in Japan
How do you load it I don't really like that gun even if I had that kind of money I wouldn't waste it on that I only buy if I really like it and if it needs to be cleaned I take it to a gunsmith that's what I do anyway
Probably not made in the USA. Winchester should be ashamed for making guns in Turkey and Japan.
Winchester should be and considering turkey has a large slave labor population it's disgusting they have anything made there
Japanese made guns are really good quality… but yeah it’s a shame seeing those jobs go overseas
Winchester gun company doesn’t exist anymore and hasn’t for decades. Certain manufacturers have licensed the Winchester rifle name. Only thing actually Winchester these days is Winchester Ammo, which is part of Olin.
Maybe you are upset at the wrong people?? Government over taxation, and over regulation drove these companies away!!! They didnt leave for the hell of it!!!😏
Should Browning be ashamed for making Auto-5’s in Belgium? Nobody thought twice about it in the 60’s.
Were is it made?
Turkey.
@@Gunscom turkey has slavery don't want it
There are more than 1.3 million people living in modern slavery in Turkey, which ranks fifth among 151 countries in which modern slavery is the most prevalent, according to the results of the 2023 Global Slavery Index.
The study, which concerns data in 2021, was produced by the Australian-based human rights organization Walk Free
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@@danmarcell3167Australians who jailed and beat folks for not taking the clot shot made a report bout slavery. 👍
@@mtower235 wow whatever it takes to make you feel better about people in chains and guns pointed at the back of their heads ... unbelievable how someone would try to justify slavery... holy crap
Not Japan is Turkey ..
I wish tbey would stop with the aluminum receiver crap. I want steel.
Then it will be more expensive and people will not buy it. That is why the top lever actions from the past are not manufactured anymore.
I would buy a U.S. made steel and walnut one ; I’d just save up for it a while longer . The 9422 was selling very well ; & wasn’t overpriced , either . The focus was changed more to the bottom line ; not quality . I’m hoping that it’s a disastrous failure .
Then buy a Browning for $800 and shut up
@@JimBischoff1184 "I’m hoping that it’s a disastrous failure ." That is just showing that you just don't want to give it a chance and you dismiss it before anything else. If anything, I hope that is will be a success just to you not to judge something by your
prejudiced attitude.
Moved off shore for cheaper labor.
so what?
Made in Turkey. Winchester might as well move its headquarters there.
DONT LIKE IT, the barrel is too thick, wood isn't smooth to the receiver. Looks cheap. Not like my venerable Win 22 lever. Went with Browning.
Who is manufacturing Winchester these days ?
There’s a plant in the U.S making the Model 70 ; I think that’s about it ? 🤷♂️
Tactical version with rail?
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Made in Turkey for a 400 dollars hell no !
Seems like a nostalgic cheap copy of the 94/22 from a random country in europe
Come on winchester you should be a head in terms of lever action craftmanship and quality
John browning must be ashamed
Bolt looks good too bad your accountants got in the way of letting your overseas slaves have to replace tooling twice as much on a cnc machining center and make the action out of steel hell the new cz 22 semi auto is $1000 for now I’ll just pray Ruger makes a real 22 lever gun the marlin 39 see I am who will buy a 22 lever gun for my grandkids expecting it to last not fall apart in ten years
Made in Turkey.
How about thread barrel!!!
Junk
Turkey. No
Winchester can't even produce quality ammunition why should I buy their firearms?
FN Herstal owns the Winchester name, thus some guns made here or there. Olin Corp owns Winchester Ammo, and makes most of the ammo domestically. Win .22 is universally garbage, but centerfire ammo is top notch.
@@rimfirejunkie7427 no it's not top notch I can't get half of the ammo to lock up in my bolt gun HALF!
@@chrisp308 Well, as someone who diagnosed firearms problems for a living,
A: Change ammo and see if that works
B: Have your chamber gauged to see if it is in spec.
C: Check the extractor for function as it might not be slipping over the case rim.
My agency bought millions of rounds of ammo ( Remington ) and found the occasional missing/backwards/sideways primer or bullet, and once a 300Blk in a box of 223. But these are micro percentages in millions of rounds. It is too easy to manufacture dimensionally correct ammo, so if half of what you have won't chamber then maybe the problem is on your end.
@@rimfirejunkie7427 if that's the case then why does every other brand work perfect in my rifle chamber? Maybe it was a bad lot I got a hold of, I will order a good pair of calipers but luckily I only purchased one box
@@chrisp308 Could be something as simple as tolerance stacking. SAAMI has minimum and maximum dimensions for ammo and chambers. If your chamber was on the tailend of the life of the reamer ( worn down = smaller hole, but in spec ) and the brass forming die was also worn ( larger brass ) then the dimensions could possibly overlay each other, and gun no worky.
wow, what an insult to lever action rifles. It could possibly be even worse than the henry's.
How do you figure that?
With a solid 1pc billet anodized Aluminum receiver on the Winchester as compared to the pot metal painted clamshell cover on the receiver of the Henry?
Not to mention the advantage the one piece receiver adds if mounting an optic on one of these!
Remember we are only talking .22lr pressures here not 300 Winchester Magnum!
They are both POS rifles. manufactured as cheaply as possible. I know that is the way to make money now days, but, what a sacrifice. Give me some Walnut and Steel Please.@@billwiley7216
@@billwiley7216 Not to mention take down ability and far easier disassmbly than on a Henry.
O boy Winchester puts out another junk gun made in Turkey . Fit and finish are crappy and how long will Winchester stand behind it ? Buy American the job you save mite be your own. Boycott Winchester until they move back to the USA. Check out Henry"s H001 classic its a much better lever gun and they stand behind it as long as you own it. MADE IN AMERICA OR NOT MADE AT ALL Love my Henry
It looks like a cheap gun. no workmanship at all.. sorry but the good old days are gone forever.. so saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
What a terrible presentation, he couldn't even get the gun back together
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wont buy one with that matt metal finish. Looks terrible
Just a cheap ploy to soak up dollars from folks with any residual memory of what Winchester used to be. Sad part is that if they do buy it, they will miss old Winchester even more. If you aren't proud of where you have it made, don't make it there. Yes, it still has the Winchester name, but there is no longer any pride in ownership. If you just have to have something that says Winchester, Wal-Mart has a whole collection of cheap outdoors crap with the name plastered all over it. The ammunition is still good from my experiences and made in America, but it is a separate company.
"Just a cheap ploy to soak up dollars from folks" Like that ultra cheap Henry stuff ...
@@L.V-Rider I think the one word that most characterizes that statement is silly.
@@sjhoff No, Henry .22 is made as cheap as possible. Just look as that cheap painted pewter type alloy receiver cover to make it to look like a real rifle and the plastic fittings where it should be metal.
@@L.V-Rider Bud, everyone has been doing that with .22 receivers for years. You aren't likely to get people to buy milled steel receivers in the quantity to justify production costs. Sorry, I wish everyone made things like Winchester, Remington, Marlin, Colt,
etc. did in the early 1900's, but that isn't reality. Especially since it is not a necessity in a .22 rifle. Ruger 10/22 has similar upper receiver material and a plastic bottom end and trigger housing. As far as Henry, give them a little respect for staying American and not being like Winchester and the rest, flooding the US with cheap products from the Islamic caliphate of Turkey. You think it doesn't make the gun grabbers happy that it is hurting domestic makers and domestic production?
@@sjhoff "everyone has been doing that with .22 receivers for years." - So why do you complain if Winchester do it? Saying : "Just a cheap ploy to soak up dollars ...." and then say "but that isn't reality. Especially since it is not a necessity in a .22 rifle."
"As far as Henry, give them a little respect for staying American .... " - But you are just to happy to use cellphones, computer and many other items the East. And why should I ? I look at the product if it is quality or not, not who made it. Other comments on here complain about "slave labour" in the manufacturing and pretend to feel sorry for those workers but they don't want to give them a opportunity to earn a living. This is the internet, everybody is not American, I am not. So you want to take the food out of the mouths for people like me. It is all about you, isn't it? And yes, I have a Winchester 9422, not because it is American made, but because it is a quality item I like.
Where is it made?
Turkey
There are more than 1.3 million people living in modern slavery in Turkey, which ranks fifth among 151 countries in which modern slavery is the most prevalent, according to the results of the 2023 Global Slavery Index.
The study, which concerns data in 2021, was produced by the Australian-based human rights organization Walk Free
I figured. Not interested. @@danmarcell3167
@@danmarcell3167 And Americans are just to willing to buy items like that. Besides, how do you know if this factory falls under the same category? And, what you call slavery is a outcome for them else they have no, zero income. Other people envy them for having a job. Stop comparing 1st world country way if living to developing countries.
@@L.V-Rider you do understand that it says "Forced Slavery" which means there is no choice..no financial gain at all... and a gun at the back of your head for yout whole life... I can't imagine anyone being envious... holy shit ...that's so sick
@@danmarcell3167 Do you believe everything you read on the internet or in books on on any other media? Do you believe all the propaganda from human rights organisations? That is a lie. Have you been there to verify yourself ? I can tell you a lot about propaganda you don't know.