I don’t get the reason for the bobbed hammer on this. I mean, with the big frame, the optic and flashlight, you’re not gonna be worried about snagging the hammer pulling it out of your pocket.
That is what billions of working people pay for 6 months of rent or mortgage. Are they using 24k diamond encrusted tools? at even 20hr labor per hour, that seems like too many hours for this. ..but we DO have guys doing wrist watches for double the labor time... and people still overpay for mid tier rolex and gucci so, is what it is.. i would love to see an episode on the 'man hours and craft' put into this top tier revolver... should be good
@@DMSparky guns in general are more expensive in Europe. If you have to go through many loops to get one (or more) there is no sense in buying cheap. Hipoint for example is simply non-existant as far as I know. Funny thing: some guns are decently priced here but in the US veeery expensive. Mainly niche things though.
I hope someone in his right mind starts making something along these lines. They have ebbs and flows, but I don’t think the defensive revolver will ever go out of style, Especially if someone:modernized it. (ie, optics and light ready)
I don’t know about that massive optic on there, but that front sight could be a bit more snag free. And RMR and a smaller light could make something like that far less clunky. I think the concept of a modernized concealment revolver is a great one.
I feel that if it was 8 shot with .327 Fed Mag it could be a great backup gun for a man who plans to mainly carry an Assault Rifle. Revolvers are pretty good in a sityation where it will sit loaded for long periods and wait for it's time to be used for long periods. Also give the hammer a tail to maje it quicker to cock SA.
'Assuault rifle' 😂 doubt the troops are gonna use it. Ya know, that is who carries an 'assault rifle' - intermediate cartridge with burst/full auto capability.
Started as a Federal LEO with S&W 66 2.5”. Pretty soon we went to Glock 23’s, but I always liked the medium to large framed revolvers. I would not feel underarmed with a revolver now (long retired, defensive carry only). For active LEO’s making arrests & responding to calls, , the days of revolvers are gone.
@@Schrodingers_kid yeah, it has buttons for each reply in the youtubeStudio comment section(which also hides comments, but thats another subject) and gives people 3 basic disney style positivity and canned replies to each person comment...
@@edj2022that’s not anything wild, just means you have a DA/SA trigger in there with a bobbed hammer. That said the technique is kinda hacky, no it’s really hacky. Partial trigger pull can cause the cylinder index to get f’d up, either pull the trigger or don’t.
James, they didn’t say anything to you when you did a movie star style cylinder closure thereby risking bending the yoke on a $6000 revolver? Celebrities get away with so much. They must be star struck.
When you’ve “sprayed” ALL six of those rounds while the lights is activated, would you TURN OFF the light BEFORE you reload? Revolver reloads are slower. Having the light ON identifies your location while you reload. Turning OFF the light, reloading, and then turning the light back on ADDS to the reloading time; likely creating an impediment to your effort to defend yourself. A weapon mounted light also adds bulk to an already bulky sidearm and will make the combo even more difficult to conceal. Are these tradeoffs acceptable to you during a defensive situation or will something like this be a range toy to display savoir faire or to exhibit a certain je ne sais quoi in a social engagement?
Worrying about a hammer spur when you have a giant ass red dot on top of the gun is hilarious. I'm not entirely against spurless revolvers but once you delete the spur you should never be trying to stage it to shoot single action, that's an accident waiting to happen. To me it only makes sense on a pocket gun and if the hammer is completely concealed.
@@tfbtv Also true but I still feel once the spur is gone you shouldn't be messing with trying to shoot it single action. IMO this mostly makes sense as a fun range gun or bedside defense gun if you don't care about capacity or noise. If you take the big optic off I guess it's a decent concealed defense option.
An 8 shot would make sense for a "modern combat revolver" giving you the additional capacity although that would mean greater bulk and weight. However, that might help with the recoil and it's not like it's meant to be a conceal carry. Maybe a slightly longer barrel?
I'd be ecstatic if Beretta/Manurhin would consider an MR-73 variant in this style. The double action pull on the MR-73 is legendarily smooth, making single action redundant in many situations.
James, You Revolver Shooting Maniac, You! That is a really nice revolver, never see them here. Too bad our revolver manufactures here in the states won't step up! Great video! Ciao!
Awesome blaster thanks for covering it! I'm a semi auto enjoyer but definitely interested in revolvers. This is a beauty definitely some tingle in the crotchal area!!! Empire PBF builds modernized colt pythons maybe you'll run into them at SHOT be well.
Holy fack! Finally a revolver review showing the use a friggin speed-loader! Jet-loaders and Safariland are the way fellas. If you own a wheel-gun yet don't own any speed-loaders; you're wrong.
Why is it always a limited edition?? I was getting my credit card out until he said that. I would 100% buy this exact revolver it’s everything I could want on a modern revolver
Revolvers can be fired from concealed positions: hipbag, hoodie pocket, grabbing under shirt provided it doesn’t have a protruding hammer, which is the case for this.
I can definitely see an argument for a combat revolver if the action closes the cylinder gap (like on a Nagant revolver) and it can be suppressed. There's no noise from the action repeating, so, in theory, it would be inherently quieter.
Smith&Wesson has the 327 TRR8. It has a 5 inch barrel, an 8 shot cylinder that takes moon clips, it’s got an accessory rail at the bottom and it’s optics ready. MSRP is $1,500. So…why are we talking about some Euro junk revolver for $5,000? The revolver was invented in ‘Murica, the auto pistol in Europe, and with the exception of the 1911 and the Hi-Power, Europe has always produced superior pistols. I can’t really think of any truly great revolvers made on that side of the pond.
If you want a combat revolver. Smith and Wesson TRR8 and R8 have got you covered. They hold 8 shots of 357 mag and have picatiny rails. With the extra cash you can use it to buy a holster, grips, and improve upon it.
It's still only a 6-shot, meanwhile the Smith TRR8 and M&P R8 have been around for 10+ years at this point. I really don't get why they're the only ones making higher-cap wheelguns with rails
An amazing design and a modern interpretation that rocks. If that full custom price of $6k-$8k is what it takes...full pass unless you are a collector or just a ton of $$ to drop. It would be nice to see if Ruger, S&W Performance, or Taurus Exec. series could do that in a reasonable US price $1.2k - $1.5k ish. I mention that to say this... for any real consideration as an edc, the majority of folks (but not all) would never carry any tool $2k and up.
I think I will keep the 2 S&W mod 327 PC in 357/38 revolvers I have .. no real need for a red dot on a gun intended for those distances.. a light might be nice sometimes .. but the flash from the muzzle and Forcing cone gap is going to interfere with your night vision anyway.. carry a high cap auto like an FNX with a can and light/laser combo for night stuff..these revolvers have reliability, but also clear water in seconds after being underwater and are a lot lighter in a chest rig.. if you got to swim anywhere..
I dig it. More revolvers need frames that correctly tuck weapon lights. No idea why so many end up with the light body mounted like 3" down the barrel.
Bobbed hammer so you don't snag while drawing the gun... but we put a TV on top... If you didn't know already, on the draw you can put your thumb over the hammer, and it will significantly mitigate if not totally eliminate snag. It's still a cool ass gun though.
I wish it had a higher capacity like an S&w 327 or something. Or even a smaller caliber to make up for capacity without going too large on the cylinder size like 327 mag. Still a super cool revolver
The only revolver I would have any interest buying is the Helldivers 2 Senator. DA/SA revolver with low bore axis barrel, in a rifle cartridge (300 blackout?). Cherry on top would be the ability extract used/spent cartridges and keep unused ones in the cylinder for tactical reload.
Revolvers trying to make a comeback. They are perfect for civillian carry and very reliable with all ammo. And no shell case drops to worry about if your a dirty boy.
I generally like the setup (except the “breacher” muzzle), but artificially constraining the supply to jack up the price is definitely the LVMH approach to production.
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“I might seriously look at one of these”
“It’s limited edition, there are 20”
“F***!”
Did the same thing.
Ah. The classic scheme. "Limited edition" mentality. I mean I would of do the same thing. Crank out in small numbers and charge a lot of $$$.
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Right? my buddy's been watning a nrew, solid, excellent, reliable, revolver...
"20 made"
Sorry dude, nevermind.
Right they are all already sold by the time I’m seeing this
I don’t get the reason for the bobbed hammer on this. I mean, with the big frame, the optic and flashlight, you’re not gonna be worried about snagging the hammer pulling it out of your pocket.
Right. And the suppressor height sights😂
@@jackglockstarthat’s to cowitness the red dot.
It comes from the crowd who haven’t figured out one can put his thumb on the hammer spur to prevent snagging when drawing.
@ I always cram the tip of my thumb under the spur, and my thumb makes a perfectly shrouded hammer. Then it’s an easy shift to a thumb pull.
It's to be able to shoot from a jacket pocket, goobers 😂
Only 20 made and $6,000-8,000 a piece? "The rent is too damn high!"
🤣🤣🤣
That is what billions of working people pay for 6 months of rent or mortgage. Are they using 24k diamond encrusted tools? at even 20hr labor per hour, that seems like too many hours for this.
..but we DO have guys doing wrist watches for double the labor time... and people still overpay for mid tier rolex and gucci so, is what it is..
i would love to see an episode on the 'man hours and craft' put into this top tier revolver... should be good
I don’t live in Austria so I wouldn’t know, but is it possible guns are also just more money there?
@@DMSparky guns in general are more expensive in Europe. If you have to go through many loops to get one (or more) there is no sense in buying cheap. Hipoint for example is simply non-existant as far as I know.
Funny thing: some guns are decently priced here but in the US veeery expensive. Mainly niche things though.
They need to go full time production and sell the heck out of them and bring the prices down to $1200-1500. It would sell at that price
“Takes Glock sights, not Glock mags”
It takes Glock cylinders
Lots of 2nd hand Glock sights available. Everyone replaces them.
meme lords unite
It takes Glock Offsprings!
Shhhh........don't tell the "influencers". Let them find out the hard way.....in their own comments section.
it's insane that we don't have more 'modern revolver' designs like this
Revolver use is resurgent. Expect a renaissance in the next few years.
make sense when they cost 5 grand
@@Castigar48but nothing about this would cost 5k if you built it on a smith or Taurus or anything else we have here in the states
I hope someone in his right mind starts making something along these lines.
They have ebbs and flows, but I don’t think the defensive revolver will ever go out of style,
Especially if someone:modernized it. (ie, optics and light ready)
Korths, Spohr, Rhinos, and Smith TRR8 come with dedicated rails for mounting, and you can throw a dot on most other drilled and tapped revolvers.
We need more modern revolvers
Now that the 2011 craze has died down, this is the next step
Im not sure we do.
Not really, no.
I think it’s definitely cool AF, definitely would like it to be part of my collection. I haven’t finished the video but I suspect it’s not cheap
@@Na7ure id buy a very very nice wood bolt action
Great host, guy did a great job describing the features and covering things.
Martin knows his shit.
TFB is the best host in the gun world right now. Says a lot. He is very good.
He also says “like” about as much as an American.
Metric units are supposed to be converted to a random thing. For example the average length of a Racoon is 30" so 7m = 9.16 Racoons.
Why Bob the hammer with all that crap stuck to it.
it was literally so funny, "we bobbed the hammer so it doesnt snag pulling it" *The Acro silent on top the gun*
I mean, if you can’t shoot this gun on double action, just go back to carrying an autoloader.
And homeboy is still thumbing the hammer into SA for each shot anyway.
I don’t know about that massive optic on there, but that front sight could be a bit more snag free.
And RMR and a smaller light could make something like that far less clunky.
I think the concept of a modernized concealment revolver is a great one.
DA is the main focus of the combat revolver. Same for the Manurhin.
EDIT: The front sight has to be tall enough to co-witness.
An Austrian dude make the “hold my beer” joke 😂
Only 20??? I would carry the heck out of this.
Limited run of 20 revolvers, 19 of which remain unsold.
I think they are sold out. It's not showing up on Alpin Arms' site anymore.
@@tfbtv they probably bought all of their own guns, so they can hop on gun broker and jack up the price to custom status, next level marketing here.
none of those will ever come to the USA, also they arent Tim from military arms channel @@mkII.
I feel that if it was 8 shot with .327 Fed Mag it could be a great backup gun for a man who plans to mainly carry an Assault Rifle. Revolvers are pretty good in a sityation where it will sit loaded for long periods and wait for it's time to be used for long periods. Also give the hammer a tail to maje it quicker to cock SA.
I was hoping it was a 327
fuck it. 556 nato revolver.
'Assuault rifle' 😂 doubt the troops are gonna use it.
Ya know, that is who carries an 'assault rifle' - intermediate cartridge with burst/full auto capability.
In a fire fight it is all DA.
@ sure unless its not
Started as a Federal LEO with S&W 66 2.5”. Pretty soon we went to Glock 23’s, but I always liked the medium to large framed revolvers. I would not feel underarmed with a revolver now (long retired, defensive carry only). For active LEO’s making arrests & responding to calls, , the days of revolvers are gone.
The glock iron sight compatibility is pretty nice. The little things
I would like to see something like this in good ol Merica, $1200 -$1500 price range with barrel length options because I would like a 4in.
That's basically a 586 L-Comp with some mods. Alternatively, a Chiappa Rhino.
“Shut up and take my-“ “They only made 20” “WHY YOU NOT WANT MY MONAY”
Great 20 made. Glad to hear it.
I will try to make 30 next time.
^ That's a lie, it was just one of youtube's AI autogenerated responses. Seriously.
@@tfbtv They do that too now? Disappointing
I'll buy 2!...
@@tfbtvthey are hugely molding the googleai, it started not giving responses this week for 'controversial topics' (time to leave it for good 2025)
@@Schrodingers_kid yeah, it has buttons for each reply in the youtubeStudio comment section(which also hides comments, but thats another subject) and gives people 3 basic disney style positivity and canned replies to each person comment...
That is an AWESOME looking revolver..We need more revolvers.
If these were marketed in the US it would be a must have in my collection.
0:58 Cocking a bobbed hammer is a first 🤣
I was thinking the same thing
It locks back for a single action shot. They show it a little better toward the end of the video.
@@edj2022that’s not anything wild, just means you have a DA/SA trigger in there with a bobbed hammer. That said the technique is kinda hacky, no it’s really hacky. Partial trigger pull can cause the cylinder index to get f’d up, either pull the trigger or don’t.
I'm deeply in love with that compensator / muzzle device
James, they didn’t say anything to you when you did a movie star style cylinder closure thereby risking bending the yoke on a $6000 revolver? Celebrities get away with so much. They must be star struck.
Cocking the hammer back with the hammer spur is hilarious
*Bobbed hammer 🔨 *
@@treytison1444how so?
I don't get it. It's pointed downrange at a target. Does it matter if the shooter cocks the trigger or just cracks one off?
Just because its spur less doesn't mean you can't use it in single action if you choose to.
@@tfbtv It just...Feels wrong
Dang. Martin looks like he was flinching real hard during his shots starting at 0:32... is that just the trigger or is he just anticipating
“A rail to take fleshlights” 2:03, I’m sold 🤝
You had me at “it has a rail to accept fleshlights”
When you’ve “sprayed” ALL six of those rounds while the lights is activated, would you TURN OFF the light BEFORE you reload?
Revolver reloads are slower. Having the light ON identifies your location while you reload. Turning OFF the light, reloading, and then turning the light back on ADDS to the reloading time; likely creating an impediment to your effort to defend yourself.
A weapon mounted light also adds bulk to an already bulky sidearm and will make the combo even more difficult to conceal.
Are these tradeoffs acceptable to you during a defensive situation or will something like this be a range toy to display savoir faire or to exhibit a certain je ne sais quoi in a social engagement?
6 thousand? My, that is a bunch.
Holy ship
@stephencrane8126 exactly
$6k -$8k! That's like 10 S&W 586/686
I bet you could customize a S&W L frame pretty nice for $3000-$4000.
@@andrewmcgibbon9785 yep
Hell yes, I've been waiting for something like this forever!
Worrying about a hammer spur when you have a giant ass red dot on top of the gun is hilarious. I'm not entirely against spurless revolvers but once you delete the spur you should never be trying to stage it to shoot single action, that's an accident waiting to happen. To me it only makes sense on a pocket gun and if the hammer is completely concealed.
Good point but I think the concept is the option of going without a dot. It's easier for the buyer to take the optic off than swap hammers.
A 1911 commander style hammer would be cool
@@tfbtv Also true but I still feel once the spur is gone you shouldn't be messing with trying to shoot it single action. IMO this mostly makes sense as a fun range gun or bedside defense gun if you don't care about capacity or noise. If you take the big optic off I guess it's a decent concealed defense option.
dope would be cool with an 8 shot cylinder tho
An 8 shot would make sense for a "modern combat revolver" giving you the additional capacity although that would mean greater bulk and weight. However, that might help with the recoil and it's not like it's meant to be a conceal carry. Maybe a slightly longer barrel?
That'll be the special edition version of this.
In .327...
And a hammer spur!
I don’t need it…… I don’t need it……. I NEEEEED IT!!!!
Checkbook happy.....checkbook happy.......checkbook goes into meltdown.
Thanks for finally showing it
0:32
“This is the commando revolver, BaSeD”
I’m sold
“Modern combat revolver”
“There’s only 20..”
This video made James’s Porsche factory video look Oscar-worthy
I'd be ecstatic if Beretta/Manurhin would consider an MR-73 variant in this style. The double action pull on the MR-73 is legendarily smooth, making single action redundant in many situations.
James, You Revolver Shooting Maniac, You! That is a really nice revolver, never see them here. Too bad our revolver manufactures here in the states won't step up! Great video! Ciao!
The age of tactical revolvers has begun.
This is finally the handgun that nobody has been asking for. I will say it is as accurate as a Glock.
Awesome blaster thanks for covering it! I'm a semi auto enjoyer but definitely interested in revolvers. This is a beauty definitely some tingle in the crotchal area!!! Empire PBF builds modernized colt pythons maybe you'll run into them at SHOT be well.
I bought revolvers 3 times in my life. Sold everyone. I learned that I like modern weapons way more.
Y’all better make more of these and bring them to the US!
The words tactical and revolver haven’t gone together for over 45 years
Holy fack! Finally a revolver review showing the use a friggin speed-loader! Jet-loaders and Safariland are the way fellas. If you own a wheel-gun yet don't own any speed-loaders; you're wrong.
Looks like his first time using it though, the way he fumbles it.
Honestly digging the tenderizer. Also wish a light rail was a much more common option among standard production revolvers.
This was a great video, I can't wait to see clips with the GATS R KEWL DAILY water mark pop up on x, the everything site.
We were all so preoccupied with whether or not we could, we never stopped to think if we should.
Don’t call it a come back, Ive been here for years!!!!!
Why is it always a limited edition?? I was getting my credit card out until he said that. I would 100% buy this exact revolver it’s everything I could want on a modern revolver
Thanks for advertising us a gun that we all can afford and purchase at our local sporting good or gun store
I had a red dot on my 4” Dan Wesson 15-2 for a while. It was awesome. I would carry this if it came stateside.
Don’t use the momentary function on the that light though 😂.
I like how the gun has a knife engraved on it so you know its serious business.
I love these tactical revolvers and lever guns
I needed oxygen after that price announcement 🤣🤣🤣
I love the idea of cowitness sights on a dot equipped revolver. Get on it Taurus!
0:32 holy moly that flinch tho 😂
Give bro some more training
5:38 its like what?!
Revolvers can be fired from concealed positions: hipbag, hoodie pocket, grabbing under shirt provided it doesn’t have a protruding hammer, which is the case for this.
I can definitely see an argument for a combat revolver if the action closes the cylinder gap (like on a Nagant revolver) and it can be suppressed.
There's no noise from the action repeating, so, in theory, it would be inherently quieter.
if it was a mid frame size and if I had the moeny that's one I'd go for (and yes at the 357)
A rail to take Flesh Lights? Oh my!! 👀
Very cool looking Revolvers 👍👍
Would it not be simpler to try and update the optic mount and irons on a TRR8? You could have 2 more rounds.
Check out the M&P R8 with the reversed cantilever optic and light mounts. It blows this thing out of the water at $1,500.
Smith&Wesson has the 327 TRR8. It has a 5 inch barrel, an 8 shot cylinder that takes moon clips, it’s got an accessory rail at the bottom and it’s optics ready. MSRP is $1,500. So…why are we talking about some Euro junk revolver for $5,000? The revolver was invented in ‘Murica, the auto pistol in Europe, and with the exception of the 1911 and the Hi-Power, Europe has always produced superior pistols. I can’t really think of any truly great revolvers made on that side of the pond.
Modern tactical lever action rifles had their time in the sun; I'm predicting that modern tactical revolvers will soon have their time.
That's a pretty sick gun. I want one, but I don't have any spare kidneys to sell.
great compact modern looking revolver 😊
If you want a combat revolver. Smith and Wesson TRR8 and R8 have got you covered. They hold 8 shots of 357 mag and have picatiny rails. With the extra cash you can use it to buy a holster, grips, and improve upon it.
It's still only a 6-shot, meanwhile the Smith TRR8 and M&P R8 have been around for 10+ years at this point. I really don't get why they're the only ones making higher-cap wheelguns with rails
Amazing looking revolver, love it. How does the recoil compare to other .357 revolvers?
It’s a shame that they are only making 20. Nice concept. Maybe we will see an iteration of this in the future.
An amazing design and a modern interpretation that rocks. If that full custom price of $6k-$8k is what it takes...full pass unless you are a collector or just a ton of $$ to drop. It would be nice to see if Ruger, S&W Performance, or Taurus Exec. series could do that in a reasonable US price $1.2k - $1.5k ish. I mention that to say this... for any real consideration as an edc, the majority of folks (but not all) would never carry any tool $2k and up.
Thabk you for your work. 💞💞💞
Make sure and tell the guy trying to shoot you to hold on while you turn on all eleventeen switches lol
I think I will keep the 2 S&W mod 327 PC in 357/38 revolvers I have .. no real need for a red dot on a gun intended for those distances.. a light might be nice sometimes .. but the flash from the muzzle and Forcing cone gap is going to interfere with your night vision anyway.. carry a high cap auto like an FNX with a can and light/laser combo for night stuff..these revolvers have reliability, but also clear water in seconds after being underwater and are a lot lighter in a chest rig.. if you got to swim anywhere..
I dig it. More revolvers need frames that correctly tuck weapon lights. No idea why so many end up with the light body mounted like 3" down the barrel.
You need a dedicated design that puts the switch behind the cylinder gap.
The FK brno psd-c just hit the US. Please review it!
Great proof of concept…interesting to see a major wheel gun maker produce enough of them at an attainable price. Can it be done?
2:18 No Glock mags? Dealbreaker…;)
I loved the look and now I know I will never own one. Damn that scarcity and price.
3:22 ooof. Not criticizing really, just oof. The balls on the guy holding the camera. BigNBrassy
A modern tactical revolver should be an 8 shot .327 tbh. .327 does everything .357 does in a much smaller profile.
Why aren't more companies making revolvers like this? They would sell a bunch
NOTE More companies need to make Revolvers with Rails. Very few do right now.
Modern combat revolver.. what an interesting statement.
Bobbed hammer so you don't snag while drawing the gun... but we put a TV on top... If you didn't know already, on the draw you can put your thumb over the hammer, and it will significantly mitigate if not totally eliminate snag. It's still a cool ass gun though.
what about the s&w r8?
It's the only non-extra large frame revolver I've shot through which it is pleasant to fire .357. The R8 is a very nice gun.
Rhino also has rails and even picatiny on top for 6".
Really cool, I'd love to try one out
Had me sold on ascetics, but the limited number probably takes me out of the game.
I wish it had a higher capacity like an S&w 327 or something. Or even a smaller caliber to make up for capacity without going too large on the cylinder size like 327 mag. Still a super cool revolver
The only revolver I would have any interest buying is the Helldivers 2 Senator.
DA/SA revolver with low bore axis barrel, in a rifle cartridge (300 blackout?).
Cherry on top would be the ability extract used/spent cartridges and keep unused ones in the cylinder for tactical reload.
Kimber revolvers have surprisingly good da triggers
Revolvers trying to make a comeback. They are perfect for civillian carry and very reliable with all ammo. And no shell case drops to worry about if your a dirty boy.
They are tryin to nerf us before the boogaloo by convincing us all to get revolvers and lever guns
Yo this is RAD I want it!!
Yo revolver with glock sights.... That's actually pretty genius
I generally like the setup (except the “breacher” muzzle), but artificially constraining the supply to jack up the price is definitely the LVMH approach to production.
Cool novelty video im glad to know it exists
The framing hammer checkered muzzle is diabolical