10 Tips For Louder Masters (Without Distortion)
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
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Here are 10 tips for louder masters WITHOUT distortion. Most people think you can have a loud mix OR a clean/dynamic mix. But with the right techniques, you can create masters that are both loud AND distortion-free.
One of the core themes of this video is avoiding heavy limiting, and instead relying on techniques such as clipping and automation to tame transients. Using a limiter isn't the only way to get your masters loud, and there are a lot of downsides to using a limiter aggressively.
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Hey, Sonox Inflator is just one of the simplest waveshaper shapes/functions. You can easily create it yourself with any waveshaper and even null it.
Interesting that not many people know this
No
Why do audio engineering tutorials pick the most annoying tracks imaginable to demo 🤣
I swear man
The reality of being a mastering engineer I suppose; you are going to come across some terrible songs that need mastering
Im vibing bro✌️
Ahh Human music
@@FinnJainman that’s when you know your worth and don’t mix for garbage tracks. You’ve gotta pick and choose what and who to work with. I wouldn’t want my name on something like this and neither would most self respecting audio engineers 😅
The song playing in the beginning is just hilarious to me for some reason
The background song? Or the before/after demo?
From this to this😂😂😂 and it sounds shitty af 🤣🤣🤷🏻♂️
That's what it sounds like in a microwave. 😂
Hahahah like a robotic seizure
Its a very wobbly melody with loads of pitch bending.
That fast compression visualisation just helped me understand something i have been struggling to understand for a while now. Thank you!
Hey you seem to be very knowledgeable for this subject. Why did you choose this track?
The fact that compression can make transients loader is totally overlooked in most tutorials, it took me years to figure this out, wasted so much time. This video would be great for beginners, still great with 15 years up my sleeve.
Just one thing. Thank you. After watching this I've increased the loudness of a track from -11 luvs to -7 luvs without any dist.
I think reference plugins like Metric AB and others were the biggest game changer for home mastering. The ability to instantly flip back and forth between your mix any song instantly make using your ears everything.
Amazing video. No clickbait title and full of real useful information based on experience.
This is one of the best audio related videos on RUclips so far. Thanks!
This is the BEST mastering video I have seen in awhile. No gimmicks... and very useful info!
this has got to be the most helpful mastering video I've ever watched thanks a ton mate my masters are loud and competitive now i really appreciate it!!!!
Best mastering video on youtube. Period.
Wow, this is the way I thought of mixing and mastering when I first started recording. This kind of advice is not very typical, at least not in many videos I've watched. When I started learning about audio engineering I got in the mindset that you pretty much always needed some compression on just about everything. It's simply not the case, and I'm glad you took me back to my roots to start looking at both mixing and mastering with fresh eyes again (or rather, ears).
Add parallel compression to this and you have a great tool kit for mixes that retain a sense of their original dynamics
These videos are gold.
this is a complete course, thanks mate
Clear and useful discussion, especially about clipping; thanks.
That lead drove me crazy.
one of the best videos i have seen on this subject, thanks a million really helped :)
very good explanations and tips.. thanks!
Great and complete explanation mate, great!!!
Thanks My Teacher Rob for a lot of information~ A lot helpful and always respect 🙏
Thank you,your videos are always help me
Thank you, that was just excellent!
This is Incredible!
This is a goldmine! Thanks bud!
This was very insightful, thank you
this is SO HELPFUL thank you
Just WOW. What a Video! I've learned so much and will put all of your tricks to good use. Thank you super duper much. Lovely guy
Amazing content!
This is a super helpful video. Thanks man!
Amazing video, finally understood things i couldnt wrap my head around! THANK YOU
Glad it helped!
Thank you Rob, this edified my process and then, once you got to the sonnex inflater, it showed how much I still have to learn, lol. Appreciate all you guys do! 🙏🤛🎶
Thank you for your insight and tips.
No worries!
Thanks for clear explanation!
Such a helpful video. Thanks
Perfects explainations, thank's !
excellent video. Very informative. Thanks!
You are not soft clipping with the StandardCLIP there, you need to slide the fader unde the mode the "soft-clip saturator" to the right to start soft clipping, if its at 0 you are hard clipping whatever your mode is. the more to the right you take it the softer the clipping.
I always thought that learning mastering first would make you better in mixing. I've realised it when I started mixing and noticed how that improved my production. However you are the first person I've heard talking about this reverse engineer concept. Thank you, great video!
This was really interesting. 👍
Thank you for the class!
Thanks for sharing the knowledge... 🤟
thanks to your visualization at 8:40 I finally understand what threshold means! learned a lot here thanks
This really helped me out, tysm!
Nice video, even helps influence choosing samples early on. Loudness over time vs short transient knocks that will affect headroom and processing etc...
Serial limiting was the big “AH-HA!” moment for me. It’s been a long road over the years but it’s all coming together now. Thank you!
Really good video! Easy to follow!
Awesome!
#1 Tutour💯
good insight and info
Golden video
Holy crap I haven't seen this guy in about 5 years on RUclips. Damn, algorithm!
Uohh, really loved today's song. Actually the first time you work with music in the same genre as mine, Love it!
Thanks for this
awesome video
Thank you so much,
this video contains a lot of knowledge, thank you for sharing ^^
I’d started applying a lot of transient management within the mix just because I felt it made sense. Even though I run into CPU issues and feel like I’m breaking all sorts of mixing “rules”. Very comforting to know it’s a thing.
Rob This Great 🔥🔥🔥
Great information :)
Thanks for watching!
Shout-out to youtube to knowing when i need what video... perfect timing
I like the musical example. More interesting than most
Finally some doing it the right way...👍
That bit about compression and dynamic range was worth the watch alone, so obvious once explained, but I'd never considered it.
Thanks!
the attack times with compression blew mind, seems so obvious but i never saw it that way!
one of my fav loudness videos on youtube. this guy is such a good teacher. only issue, that beat with tune glides. different beat, a couple of different ones would be nice. but its ok i m here for the top tricks. and definitely in good hands. than kyou
Video that is worth watching
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Thanks
Thanks.
Great video!! And bonus point for staying true to mixing/mastering tutorials and having the weirdest songs lol
From my experience, Sonnox Inflator is a soft-clipping saturator with a small volume boost. I achieved similar results with the soft saturation on the Logic PHAT FX but unfortunately, it doesn't do oversampling and introduces aliases in the upper frequencies. That was an ABSOLUTELY GREAT mastering tutorial by the way!!
Speaking about mastering this video has a great balance... between very great and useful tips that I'll for sure implement from now on, but explained on a horrendous song. Never heard a melody this irritating sound so clean lol, just my liking tho I'm sure other people would love this.
Funny story. I used compressor like ReaComp and TDR for years, but I only understand ratio and gain reduction/addition. I finally understood what the attack/release speed does after using Airwindows compressors, which doesn't have any fancy GUI or indicator lol. It forces you to listen on the result instead of watching numbers appear.
it's more usefulll than my 10 years of searching the perfect sound
You made it to the front page of google 💪
Good video, learnt some new stuff while using some of my skills better
Hi, beautiful work, thanks for your dedication! Two nitpicks/suggestions on this one: your logo is wonderful AND it's in the way up to 72Hz and just in general I don't want it there while I'm working. Perhaps an option to disable it would be nice. Second, it would be great if we could mouse the output level up/down on the horizontal lines, rather than needing to turn the output knob. Thanks again!
I think this has been singlehandedly the best mastering tutorial I've seen to date. I will say this though. I think in modern mastering one of the most important and 'new' things are the mid/side limiting and multiband limiting. I would really love if you could/would go more in depth on those topics because this is often not really explained well.
Then one small thing about Saturn: the default settings are with the entire plugin on -1dB. This is also the case in your video. So if you want to understand why the LUFS go down with a dB mostly it's because you're literally turning down the thing as a whole with 1dB. And the reason you're lifting the transients mostly is because you are not affecting the bass/kick as you're working mutiband (above 530hz), so you're saturating the top end more, hence affecting more the transients of for instance the percussion as you mention.
I am a not mastering engineer but this is a very interesting video 😊
Sadly not a single YSE (youtube sound engineer) video I saw that ever played a good or a decent music
the song can cause mental breakdown!!!!
Appreciate the shout out on the final pointer; I will say credit to where the origins of that technique is from; are the passages on "manual limiting" in Bob Katz' Mastering Audio book;
really really well put together video, lots of great tips and superb explanations. I'd disagree on the 9 ish LUFS for club music though, needs to be much louder than that (sadly). Glad you mentioned the inflator, superb tool
8-9 should be competitive enough - good data here to back this up: www.masteringthemix.com/blogs/learn/mastering-trends-for-2023
Glad you liked the video, thank you for the kind words!
I produce club music so this is very helpful indeed!
I got a question tho, How would I set the master on my tracks to upload to different streaming services since some require a certain db limit? Like 9 lufs ain't too bad, but I know some have strict requirements for uploading to their servers! I don't know if I would have to make numerous copies of each song with different volumes for each upload to apply with each streaming service requirement tho....that's what confuses me frfr
@@masteringcom na man, loud music is now 3 LUFS, even below for Hardcore. Yeah, yeah :)
@@Jaymendezofficialpeople have really made something very simple and unimportant this massive complicated issues.
- Master it above -14LUFS or whichever is the loudest service.
-loud tracks get turned down so unless your limiters or clippers improve the sound don't bother going excessive.
-tracks being turned down through normalisation just turns tracks down, they aren't limited or changed.
-tracks being turned up, through normalisation? You can guess what happens to your peaks, they get clipped or limited...its actually more problematic keeping things below the recommended LUFS if your peaks are hitting near the top still.
-no...you can't just set each track to average -14 or album dynamics between songa will be way off, mellow tracks will blast out of speakers and loud ones will be weak...not to mention dynamica within song structure too
-loads of tracks at "club volume" on streaming services that isn't suffering. No they don't make loads of masters, except perhaps the necessary thing in vinyl pressing
Thanks! Really useful and helpful tips.. one thing tho is the demo song is very grating
Good tutorial. Would have been much better had you used a less annoying track to demo everything.
I only figured the value of clipping for masters recently, had to go back to all my old projects and scrap the 5-6 tools I was using for 1-2 and everything is so much louder now 🤦♂️😂
8:15 I have always wondered about that, it was so simple and logical and yet no one ever points that out. How am I supposed to get a more consistent level when I let an initial transient pass through, and level down what follows 🤷♀🤷♀ thanks for clarifying. Well, thanks for all this video, I am already putting your advice into practice.
The way you were shaking when the high pass filter modern issue came up 😂
Thank you for the interesting video 🎼🎵🎶
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Your comment was posted 33 minutes ago..
must've been an interesting 30% of the video
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YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME. I went to school for audio engineering, but the market isn't acfepting of "fresh meat." Why is it so competitive? 😂. God be with me.
Super helpful post -- just as good as the gain staging one. Thank You!!! I do wish the reference track were a bit more musical--with the electrochirp stuff it's hard to hear the effects in a meaningful way.
I've always thought of clipping as the hard, square wave distortion resulting from volume going past the capacity of the system to reproduce accurately. And here you're using 'clipping' to refer to an activity which might be better described as trimming. Am I just old and out of touch? Regardless it's a practice I hadn't seen before and will be trying this with the Standard Clip.
Good video, but a quick note: @ ~29:48, in the Ozone Maximizer module, those sliders on the right are not "left and right" but "transient and sustain, and while they can be unlinked it appears they affect the stereo signal -- no L/R specific effect.
guys that perception plugin mentioned in this video, for ableton users we have a max 4live device called volume body. it does exactly the same thing and i believe its 14-15 bucks. just letting you know before you jump on buying the plugin. i know its useful but we are on ableton we got m4live devices to save us money LOL andyou dont have to put one inthe end one at the end. its just one m4live device. just group all your effects and put a volume body at the end so you can A-B it.
When using saturation, typically it adds harmonics which has an impact on perceived loudness. In other words, in simple terms, adds more information to the affected frequency range.
And better have some good oversampling happening. Unless the specific track you’re working on sounds great with bizarre aliasing.
isnt saturation the same thing as distortion?
Great video! BTW How did you create the visualization in the compression piece?
Actually the attack parameter in proL2 controls the amount of time before the beginning of the release and the release parameter is an actual and classic release so i think that the actual attack of the limiter is always 0. Being a limiter, it would make sense.
Correct, if the limited audio sustains longer than the attack setting, then the release setting is brought into the process.
I love this tutorial and this channel. Any insight on what you would do differently mastering for vinyl? Are there any specific videos for vinyl mastering?
26:44 - that´s called á waveshaper. Indeed someone already reverse engineered Inflator with a waveshaper and achieved silence performing a null test.
Oxford Inflator is great now and then but it does alter the stereo image somewhat and not necessarily always in a good way.
26:09 - Frank Pole has recreated Inflator in Fl Studio with stock plugins and discovered its a waveshaper with a sinewave function. He links two videos achieving a null test with a waveshaper and the Inflator. Frank's video (I've created an INFLATOR clone in PATCHER)
Nice - will check this out!
heard spotify only does -14 Lufs when you have the option enabled, so there is apparently still reason to limit to ie. -6 as most mastering engineers often still do.
I agree. In my experience putting together playlists (of both my own stuff, and commercial works), if you have a loud (good) master, it sounds:
- Louder than the competition, when Spotify normalization is off
- Much the same as the competition, when Spotify normalization is on
The logical conclusion I drew from this was, therefore, that a good, loud (within reason) master still had clear benefit and survived both scenarios well. A quieter master only survived one of these two scenarios well. Therefore, by process of elimination: loud master wins (IF that's what you're looking for). This is a slightly simplistic overview of the situation, of course, but you get the point. Other's experience might vary, of course!