Why Ultra Wide Lenses Are Lame Now

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • Thinking of getting an ultrawide lens for your youtube show? Think again. Most youtubers go with the 16-35mm f2.8 or 15-35mm f4 type lenses for full frame. Rethink that decision.
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  • @cameraconspiracies
    @cameraconspiracies  6 месяцев назад +8

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    • @Anon-zl4ne
      @Anon-zl4ne 6 месяцев назад

      You are into the 85mm f/1.2 now? Careful, before long you will be taking us to a lake and hiding it.

    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen 6 месяцев назад

      Please see Lucy Liu's ferret impression (to John Cleese) in 'Charlie's Angels II: Full Throttle'

  • @jessejayphotography
    @jessejayphotography 6 месяцев назад +69

    Wide angle is more intimate because I can see all the dysfunction in your apartment and I feel like I’m there.

  • @MartialBoniou
    @MartialBoniou 6 месяцев назад +32

    I know nothing about lenses but now I want to pet an ultra wild raccoon. Thanks!

  • @lavapix
    @lavapix 6 месяцев назад +13

    I soldered my ultrawide lens to my camera so I'd never take it off.

  • @LTPottenger
    @LTPottenger 6 месяцев назад +17

    The thing to do is light the room perfectly one time, then use a greenscreen to show the room perfectly lit and clean. Then you don't have to worry about it any more.

    • @faddad101
      @faddad101 6 месяцев назад

      But what about the face

    • @LTPottenger
      @LTPottenger 6 месяцев назад

      @@faddad101Overhead lighting is easy and effective.

  • @gregmonforton4103
    @gregmonforton4103 6 месяцев назад +5

    There's a quality about 85mm headshot that bugs me to the same degree as ultra-wide does. 35mm or 50mm is where I don't get distracted by the distortion.

  • @JauneMacReady
    @JauneMacReady 6 месяцев назад +7

    Outstanding! I had no idea before, and even less now. Thank you for what you do. ❤

  • @Lance_MadCat
    @Lance_MadCat 2 месяца назад +2

    One Lens to rule them all, One Lens to find them, One Lens to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them!

  • @bloodmoney88
    @bloodmoney88 6 месяцев назад +23

    if you're buying a wide angle, buy a cheap one first, get over using it, realize you hate it then give it to an enemy.
    I bought a 16mm whatsitsname lens... it might be good for taking class of 2024 shots... the whole class... other than that.

  • @ayhancapan
    @ayhancapan 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don't believe all these years I hadn't subscribed to your channel. RUclips recommended may be whole your videos. And I've watched hundreds of them. Just now I realized that I hadn't subscribed, so I just have subscribed, means wide angle worked. I felt closer :P

  • @_Thumbnail_
    @_Thumbnail_ 6 месяцев назад +30

    Saw your bereavement video on the other channel. Best wishes to you and your small family.

  • @derrenleepoole
    @derrenleepoole 6 месяцев назад +4

    That racoon story had me choking on my Doritos and had me in mind of Primus’s Wynona’s Big Brown Beaver :)

  • @Daryl3737
    @Daryl3737 6 месяцев назад +8

    Best line of the video…”How do you source it?” I’m still laughing!

  • @tommilano5431
    @tommilano5431 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Kasey, great video! I’ve been using a wired lavalier mic with my phone for vlogs, and it’s super convenient! You’re the only person I’ve seen that vlogs with a wired mic. So simple, lightweight, no batteries. Thank you!

  • @SystemParanoia
    @SystemParanoia 6 месяцев назад +2

    As the president of the 600mm vlogging club. I welcome your embrace of longer focal lengths 😅

  • @daveinportland
    @daveinportland 6 месяцев назад +6

    (In your best Maximus impersonation) “Are you not entertained?!?”

  • @olafweyer859
    @olafweyer859 6 месяцев назад +1

    I moved the dial on my EVF diopter and the wide angle lens is the only way I can be certain at least SOMETHING is in focus. I could try moving the dial again, but it is Thursday.

  • @iphoneography
    @iphoneography 6 месяцев назад

    On a side note, we have that exact rocking chair. Ok, that's my news.

  • @mcknackus4721
    @mcknackus4721 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wide angle is perfect for depicting otherworldly or uncomfortable scenes, or like, Jim Varney trying to renovate your home. RIP you legend.

  • @XL1813
    @XL1813 6 месяцев назад +3

    Appreciate the reappearance of rat-boy.

  • @bololollek9245
    @bololollek9245 Месяц назад

    When filming while sailing, going in a car, or in otherwise cramped situations i find ultra wide like my sony 11mm 1.8 super useful. What I almost never do is shoot photos with it, the widest lens I use for photo is the sony pancake 20mm 2.8 (for apsc) and the batis 25 (apsc)

  • @nicksavage4763
    @nicksavage4763 6 месяцев назад +14

    WIDE ANGLE IS
    GREAT FOR ACTUAL.
    DRAMATIC PRESENTATION LIKE
    ACTORS WITH EACH OTHER AT A TABLE ETC. They HAVE a
    Purpose. NOT FOR
    RAT BOY BLOG.

    • @audioupgrades
      @audioupgrades 6 месяцев назад +2

      Wide angles are used in film-making. Stanley Kubrick was quite keen on them. My response would be that wide angles are overused and misused so try to use a normal lens first. If you absolutely can't, then whip out the wide angle.

  • @koreanwonders
    @koreanwonders 6 месяцев назад

    I shoot parties in confined places so wide is the most practical.
    I used to use a 17-35 and took 95% of my pictures at 17mm but the distortion required tweaking in post. Then got a 20mm prime and it’s working just fine for me (and way less ratty) plus it’s way lighter than the zoom.

  • @trym2121
    @trym2121 6 месяцев назад +3

    Now you're joining your idol preferences. Full toneh

  • @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures
    @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures 6 месяцев назад

    I started thinking I loved long lenses because of the 3D pop, realized longer felt more fancy and cinematic, thought that too long felt stuffy and cliché, and now I use 35mm-75mm the most, between S35 and full frame

  • @MacBookBro1
    @MacBookBro1 6 месяцев назад +1

    I started with the 85mm street photography. Then Jason Vong puts out a video about it. It was my secret weapon while everyone else is walking around with the crappy wide angle lens. 😂

  • @rafaelxenes2034
    @rafaelxenes2034 6 месяцев назад

    Goofy lenses for goofy people. Either with a wide, normal, or telephoto lens, you always manage to make very valid, educational content in a goofy, entertaining manner. That's one of your gifts, our friend. Just keep bringing us this awesome funny show in whatever focal length you see fit. You're still our favorite online camera guy. 😂

  • @ratgirl13
    @ratgirl13 6 месяцев назад +6

    Listen Kasey, stop giving ratboy a hard time, he’s just trying to live his best life. Your depiction of ratboy is hilarious, and I hope to see him more in upcoming videos. ❤

  • @djmatt1
    @djmatt1 6 месяцев назад

    I love the 85mm look, it's my personal fav as a taking lens for a 2x anamorphic setup, as much as a pita it is I find it's still worth the trouble, depending what you're filming of course.

  • @audioupgrades
    @audioupgrades 6 месяцев назад +3

    People misuse wideangle lenses to cheat on the photographic process. As the wide angle lens gets almost everything in the frame, there is no need to compose the shot or make any decisions on framing. The one use case I would support is vlogging because anything else is just unworkable.

    • @annor5725
      @annor5725 6 месяцев назад +1

      I think because there is more in a wide angle shot it‘s even harder to compose.

    • @audioupgrades
      @audioupgrades 6 месяцев назад

      @@annor5725 Nope. Composing is deciding what should be in the frame and what should be outside. With a wide angle lens, everything is in the frame so there is no choice, no decision and no photography.

    • @saifaldin_
      @saifaldin_ 6 месяцев назад

      @@audioupgradesExactly why good wide angle compositions are few and far between..
      It’s so easy to fall into mediocrity with wide angle, causing those who are experienced and value their craft to simply not take the shot instead.
      Lenses with longer focal lengths are easier to work with, precisely because one has more leeway in terms of composition. And since more people use them, they too tend to easily fall into mediocrity.

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 6 месяцев назад +1

    There's a reason why film SLRs usually sold with a 50mm lens and why a digital camera kit lens nearly always includes 50mm.

  • @prizepictures1
    @prizepictures1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wide angles can be ok sometimes but it’s easy to over-do it. I personally like 35mm also 40mm is charming. My sister has a crush on rat boy.

  • @nicedward7544
    @nicedward7544 6 месяцев назад +2

    I love my 15 macro but I'm surprised it's not scratched to hell. It can focus down to stuff touching the front element

  • @dct124
    @dct124 6 месяцев назад +18

    All focal lengths have a place. These are tools. You use them effectively.
    Wide angle is actually good for adding stuff to your scene in post such as overlays, links, etc. so you're not covering your face. News channels use a wide perspective for this very reason as well as having breathing room in the scene.
    Wide angle is good for humans if you're not all in their grill.

    • @eto2352
      @eto2352 6 месяцев назад +2

      News channels don't use wide angle.

    • @dct124
      @dct124 6 месяцев назад

      @@eto2352 Let me delete this other comment b/c I'm coming off as an ass hole.
      Can you get a wide angle shot regardless of the lens focal length?
      If you can answer that question, you'll understand what I was saying.

    • @eto2352
      @eto2352 6 месяцев назад

      @@dct124 🤡 think about what you just wrote. I'll get my 300mm "wide angle" lens.

    • @dct124
      @dct124 6 месяцев назад

      @@eto2352 dude just because you don't understand how distant and angle of view work, doesn't mean you gotta get uptight.

    • @dct124
      @dct124 6 месяцев назад

      @@eto2352 Here's a nice beginners instructional video to understanding how a lens works.
      Also most news channels use a ln 18-35mm lens equivalent. 35mm being the narrowest focal length for wide angle.
      Wide angle vs Normal lens distance
      ruclips.net/video/kpRqgPDdCVc/видео.htmlsi=T_Ub-PEbP5hKMWbL
      I'm not going to be an ass hole on this man's channel after the passing of his mom. Take the advice, and do with it what you please. Based on the dumb like like I got from the initial comment, either we're all incompetent and you're some superior being or, just maybe you misunderstood/misinterpreted what I said. Be on your Marry way to your next photography gig, job, or whatever you like doing.

  • @_tographer
    @_tographer 6 месяцев назад +1

    Of all things for content creators, autofocus + wide angle was kind of the most unnecessary thing. If I’m that close to the camera, I don’t really need autofocus because I can actually reach the lens. Now throw on that 85mm and good autofocus is an absolute necessity unless your arms are 20ft long. Surprised with the rise of incredible autofocus, the wide angle look has still maintained its RUclips prominence. We need more 300mm vlogs.

  • @seanmangan2769
    @seanmangan2769 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for you opinion. 👌 I will continue to use my ultra-wides.

  • @LordJapos
    @LordJapos 6 месяцев назад +1

    we need more ratboy nose-vlogs

  • @DirectingSven
    @DirectingSven 6 месяцев назад

    I stand by my sigma 1.4 16mm. When I kiss the glass to the fish tank I capture epic aquarium shots with no need for fiddly cdl crap

  • @ElectroMedia-cs9ek
    @ElectroMedia-cs9ek 6 месяцев назад +2

    Is the raccoon urine of good quality? I was thinking of using it on my macro lens.

  • @IrgendeinerHalt
    @IrgendeinerHalt 6 месяцев назад +1

    Although I don't have a wide angle lens, I think it would help me stay in the frame as I can't sit still.

  • @mjklein
    @mjklein 6 месяцев назад +1

    I cried too, but I only saw that clip. Please post a link to the entire movie and I'll get my box of tissues.

  • @NeonShores
    @NeonShores 6 месяцев назад

    I agree, most times i kinda hate wide angle lenses.
    I know everyone says you need them for landscapes but I find myself gravitating to longer focal lengths even in landscapes too. I just really don't like the look of distorted overly stretched foregrounds.
    Architecture, real estate and interior design are where wide angles shine and even then detail shots are still more interesting.

  • @otisjordan5613
    @otisjordan5613 6 месяцев назад +1

    Just returned my Fuji xf23. I just didn't like the 35mm field of view at all. 50mm fov is my minimum, 85 the sweetspot, with one excpetion; fisheye lenses. (This is for photography, I don't do video)

  • @jesseward3121
    @jesseward3121 6 месяцев назад +1

    I would have bet my whole life on that door hitting the chair. I'm a dead man now and everyday is a gift.

  • @MakePictures
    @MakePictures 6 месяцев назад

    lol i don’t know why we all sought after wide angles in photography and filmmaking like 20 years ago we bought every wide angle imaginable, just versatility maybe. but you’re right, now we’re like who cares if they can’t see your ceiling fan. we watched one terrence malik film and we think we need that versatility but turns out kurosawa had the right idea

  • @knowyourjoe8826
    @knowyourjoe8826 6 месяцев назад +1

    5 min and 34 seconds into this and I am crying too.... from laughing so hard....LOL. Thanks!

  • @TyProvosty
    @TyProvosty 6 месяцев назад

    Great for tight space architectural photography and videography.... Even with profound parallax distortion.

  • @gabsriel
    @gabsriel 6 месяцев назад

    I bought plenty of ultra wides and never settled, until a fixed 20mm f1.8.

  • @toddcamnyc
    @toddcamnyc 6 месяцев назад

    Microphone sounds awesome. Don’t change

  • @baconcrusader8382
    @baconcrusader8382 6 месяцев назад +7

    Ratboy for PM!

  • @sixlegged
    @sixlegged 6 месяцев назад

    We need more rat faces on the interweb. Rat faces are the new cowbells.

  • @Integr8d
    @Integr8d 6 месяцев назад +1

    i don’t go any wider than 35 on the FF… practically ever. Never liked the perspective, oddly except when getting close to dogs🤣

  • @charliejg
    @charliejg 6 месяцев назад

    I'm thinking you could make a box office thriller starring Ratboy. LOL! I get it, mixing it up keeps things fresh. After 10 years you need to find things that keep it interesting and fun. Have a rockin' day!!

  • @gabequezada2066
    @gabequezada2066 6 месяцев назад +1

    Rat boy now needs to be in meetings...

  • @heyselcuk
    @heyselcuk 6 месяцев назад

    make the next video outside with only 600 mm f6.3 and lav mic

  • @Joe_VanCleave
    @Joe_VanCleave 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’m waiting for Ratboy vs J. Swizzle!

  • @MstrRo1
    @MstrRo1 6 месяцев назад +1

    "Rat Boy" is a star in the making!

  • @kennygo8300
    @kennygo8300 6 месяцев назад

    Dang... I just bought a 28mm 1.8 G for my old Nikon DSLR cameras today. I don't know why I wanted to shoot a wide focal length on my morning photo walks. I should have ask you first.

  • @imKeshav
    @imKeshav 6 месяцев назад +3

    Literally watched your Sony 14 MM 1.8 GM review yesterday, which you've uploaded probably 2 years ago, and now we are here... people change, and that's okay

  • @MinoltaCamera
    @MinoltaCamera 6 месяцев назад +3

    11:43 Kacey on crack

  • @ButchNews
    @ButchNews 6 месяцев назад

    I have an ultra wide adapter on my 16mm lens and it's the very best lens I have. The most creative lens I own. Background? Look around for what's called COMPOSITION. LEARN ABOUT COMPOSITION... AND LIGHTING. WIDE ANGLE REQUIRES IMAGINATION AND DON'T GET TOO CLOSE TO A FACE.

  • @krhump
    @krhump 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hello from Australia

  • @poorbadger
    @poorbadger 6 месяцев назад +1

    Touch of Evil w Orson Welles
    Some of the greatest WA shots ever

  • @KenCoCreates
    @KenCoCreates 6 месяцев назад

    The only wide angle I would use is a action camera vlogging. Other than that 28mm maybe but for sure 32mm 60mm 112mm only

  • @noeleb8538
    @noeleb8538 6 месяцев назад

    Only one person is brave enough to purposefully show off Ratboy. I think you need to make a movie about where Ratboy comes from.

  • @danncorbit3623
    @danncorbit3623 6 месяцев назад

    Wide angles that people accept over time changes. Long ago, the 50mm was king. Then 35mm became popular (Julia Trotti's favorite). But today's generation is used to cell phones, which are effectively about 28mm FF equivalent. Even wider angles seem fairly normal unless the subject is too close to the lens. So wide lenses are fine if used in a way that doesn't produce goofy stretching. Even goofy stretching can be fun if used occasionally. But like anything else, we can get bored of it. The most glamorous look is from longer lenses (85mm to 200mm) but those are hard to use for things besides talking heads. Max Headroom days are in the rear view mirror now, for an entire production. So I guess there's a time and a place for everything. That's why they sell both long and short lenses.

  • @tek_soup
    @tek_soup 6 месяцев назад

    FX30 With a FE 50MM is my liking right now, and its a cheep Sony lens/kit lens. SEL50F18F/2

  • @JayWall
    @JayWall 6 месяцев назад

    I put a 50mm on my 90D to try. You can see every hair, freckles... You get the nice background blur "Tony" but too much detail for me.

  • @jackdaw9829
    @jackdaw9829 6 месяцев назад +1

    Came here to learn about lenses. Nearly wet myself.

  • @albertjimenez7896
    @albertjimenez7896 6 месяцев назад

    Nikon has solidified its position as the undisputed frontrunner in the wide angle lens market, especially with their outstanding Nikon large format wide angle SW lenses. Furthermore, Nikon provides a wide range of outstanding wide angle medium format lenses, such as the Plaubel Makina W67. Furthermore, Nikon has firmly established its position as a frontrunner in the wide angle category for 35mm cameras. Nikon's wide angle and various format capabilities are unmatched, giving them a significant edge over other brands. This is due to Nikon's unique approach of designing and building everything optically in-house, a practice that sets them apart in the photography industry.

  • @spikethecat3
    @spikethecat3 6 месяцев назад

    Glad this works for you but given the infinite variety of subjects and artiistic treatments of the, I seriously doubt if your remarks have universal application. My 10-16 WA is terrific inside cathedrals.

  • @dredfxcustompaint
    @dredfxcustompaint 6 месяцев назад +1

    😅 always a giggle but great info thanks for sharing 👍

  • @dreamsandrealms4581
    @dreamsandrealms4581 6 месяцев назад

    Looks good, whats the problem with this wide lens?

  • @AprilClayton
    @AprilClayton 6 месяцев назад

    The Sony 40 F2.8 G is a sweet focal length. Dignity in a compact size. It’s no Zeiss.

  • @SonoranAstro
    @SonoranAstro 6 месяцев назад +1

    for your next q&a can you discuss your color grading work flow

  • @Mr09260
    @Mr09260 6 месяцев назад

    My 20mm F1.8 S Nikon Lens is Essential for my Milky Way Photography.. Extra Wide Angle needed for Architecture and Real Estate photography

  • @PJ-om2wq
    @PJ-om2wq 6 месяцев назад

    Could I vlog with my 24mm AF-D screw focus lens on the D780 that I'm going to buy?

  • @TNRVG
    @TNRVG 6 месяцев назад

    16mm is the only wide angle that doesn't exist to use for RUclips... full frame

  • @ishaanmalhotra3008
    @ishaanmalhotra3008 6 месяцев назад

    So do you forgive the Sony ZV1 for not being so wide? I remember that was your main gripe with that camera. I have it and I think the wide end is fine enough(even with active stab), really like that camera. I have never liked the super ultra wide look, I thought Sony nailed it on ZV1.

  • @keensoundguy6637
    @keensoundguy6637 6 месяцев назад

    I had to "watch" this one with the monitor off. So, of course, I didn't believe Rat Boy was a real rat until the sniffing at the end.

  • @DunrobinOntario
    @DunrobinOntario 6 месяцев назад

    "The fifty film naa miii zeiss" is an important lens

  • @annor5725
    @annor5725 6 месяцев назад

    Framing is not everything. Depending on what you shoot you can arrange things and the lighting in front of the camera.

  • @y-o-u-b
    @y-o-u-b 6 месяцев назад

    wide angel in super 8 film looks great

  • @thissidetowardscreen4553
    @thissidetowardscreen4553 6 месяцев назад

    I think I understood this video? Wide is bad, but is good. Kasey changes his mind. The return of Ratboy! Racoon urine and Zebras on the face? At some point I think my mind shut down.

  • @chrisshor3195
    @chrisshor3195 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nah do more vids on the 10mm close up that shit’s hilarious

  • @lephotographinc
    @lephotographinc 6 месяцев назад

    Raccoon urine … oh how do your source it? LMAO

  • @Bobsmithabc
    @Bobsmithabc 6 месяцев назад

    I think close up wide angle is a look that makes people watch because it distorts reality.

  • @CAMTechChris
    @CAMTechChris 6 месяцев назад +1

    Now this is quality content!

  • @fujiandeye
    @fujiandeye 6 месяцев назад

    I am solo creator , and I am fan of wide angle lens . 🙏🙏

  • @AdrianIII
    @AdrianIII 6 месяцев назад

    Just in time for the new Laowa 10mm prime!!!

  • @pedrova8058
    @pedrova8058 4 месяца назад

    3:16 "chivo" Lubezki leaves the chat...

  • @evanlughfahy9778
    @evanlughfahy9778 6 месяцев назад

    40mm or equivalent is the One TRUE focal length!!
    You’re WELCOME!

  • @Farang_Lifestyles
    @Farang_Lifestyles 6 месяцев назад +1

    Racoon Urine goes on sale at the local 7/11... tonic to cure all ailments

  • @CliffR
    @CliffR 6 месяцев назад

    Man what did you talk about? I was in awe of your shirt the entire time.

  • @flightographist
    @flightographist 6 месяцев назад

    Racoon urine is last years thing, today, you really really need to know about the miracle of the urine from a opossum.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 6 месяцев назад

    I have been wondering for years what was behind that door. Eureka its a closet!

  • @By_Rant_Or_Ruin
    @By_Rant_Or_Ruin 6 месяцев назад

    Photographers are lazy. They use ultra wide and 3D to show you other peoples houses they wish they could live in but never will because they don't have a real job and sometimes get paid - then there was the time when I was sure to get paid but no they sold the house before I could get the photos to them and it hurt my bottom - line.
    Is that yet another good re-enactment Ratboy? Good video, oh those colors huh? I can smell those zebras poppin'. The sound was unusually stable today. Good work. Everything was porridge in the middle - just right. May the light of the day make you skitter. Peace.

  • @chriskuroda5144
    @chriskuroda5144 6 месяцев назад

    I hate my nifty fifty since I need to back up so far to get the shot. I'm always backing away from my subject. 20mm is perfect for most of my shots. Nice job finding all of that old footage with examples of each focal length. I can't even find the video of my own wedding! Then, I would be able to prove that a real woman actually married me.

  • @alexmirza5210
    @alexmirza5210 6 месяцев назад

    Fashions change. Next could be rat pee and macro lens so you have to stay still to keep your mouth in focus (so people can lip read you).

  • @duncanwallace7760
    @duncanwallace7760 6 месяцев назад

    "They know you read".. lol. When I see a bookshelf with a sets of books (ie multiple all the same size and colour), then I know they don't read. Yours has one green set, which I suspect you have not read, but the rest look legit.