I am running a 06 Ram 3500 pulling an 080-4 and have no problems running 70 mph in southeast Texas. My house is 9 ft above sea level and there is only about 5 ft of elevation change across the whole county.
I love that you put these trucks to work and they seem fit your niche perfectly. Is there a hypothetical setup you wish you had (truck or trailer or both) that would fit your needs better that doesn't exist?
I've recently been laid up from back surgery from years of hard work. I came across your channel, and I'm a big fan. I love seeing people's equipment dreams come true, especially through hard work. I'm especially inspired, considering your doing this inspite of California. Although oregon where I live, as you know isn't much better. Good job bud. Living the American dream through hard work. You have probably sold almost as many rams as yellowstone. Have a good one
I love my 4500 and 5500's - converted both of them to a pickup by doing a box swap and stretching it. Best of both worlds. Truthfully I dont tow anywhere near you, I draw the line at 32k (toy hauler and race car). Trucks have way more in them and way more brakes but that feels comfortable for me and the entire package. Love the C&C trucks and I still have 4WD for going over the mountains when its snowing.
Marques pipeline, Tiechert and Lund construction all run a flatbed setup, with an air brake bumper pull trailer and they seem very versatile and more than capable. You can use ramps to go from your trailer to your flatbed and potentially haul 3 pieces at once. Track chipper on the flatbed, tl12 and 080 on the trailer would be slick.
Most of my jobs you can’t get into with a semi bumper pull set up. And again come into weight issues where can’t haul to bigger ones legally at same time without permit. I have a buddy that has a set up like that. But he also grabbed a gooseneck and uses the goose often
I still stand by my first/original opinion. I think you made the best decision with the most recent 5500. That truck is designed/engineered to do what you are doing with it. Anything heavier, the 4X4 capability gets involved in the conversation. JMHO --gary
I don't have equipment to haul around like you do, but I moved up from hotshot to semi and I'm loving it. My 2010 Peterbilt with it's ISX-15 and 13 speed climbs mountains like a champ and I only have to hit the brakes going down if I pick the wrong gear at the top. LOVE my jakes and the sleeper. Cruises 70 MPH at 1,500 - 1,550 RPM even when grossing 77 - 78K. As for your 3500 rig, aren't you limited by the tongue weight and maintaining 15-20% tongue weight? Putting most of the weight on the trailer axles and not enough on the pin will make it sketchy at best... I always aimed for 17% tongue weight. On my trailer, that was with the load centered on the midpoint. Some guys put way too much tongue weight and then they wonder why they get pounded and then wind up with cracked welds.
The tongue weight is why he went with the 5500, he mentioned he can have 8500 on the pin which would be a 42,500lb trailer at 20%. I think the semi makes more sense when you’re doing long interstate runs from loading dock to loading dock vs. someone who mostly hauls their equipment around to jobs in their county
What up man. I’m still going to install a load leash on my shit along with a Vogt turbo that is not from BD diesel. Chris Patterson that has his 3,000 horse power mean green common rail likes BD diesel a lot. I might get a turbo from them also i got to drive a 12v that came to our shop 15 years ago that had a set of those tow twins. We fired ringed his rig and he had a bad head gasket . Anyways man I have an afe blade runner for a back up and I have a turbo that I found on eBay that is an phatshaft industrial injection. Not everybody knows what they are looking at lol. We are also a dealer for industrial injection. We are doing another compound turbo set up on a 6.7 Cummins with a customer request with a Randys transmission. I can’t wait to see it on our dyno 💪🏼🥳🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I have a new 3500 HO on order and I should have it 8-10 weeks. Could you talk about how you brake in your trucks during the first 500-1000 miles. How soon do you do your first oil change? Thank you!
In Pa DOT has been known for checking manufacture’s GCWR. Not just what the truck is registered for. Even if the axles, tires, and axle weights are within spec. If an accident were to happen how do you know you’re safe if the truck is registered for more than the manufacturer’s rating? Everything is well documented these days with the manufacturer’s rating for towing, GVW, GCWR etc. I also have a 5500 and have to register it for GCWR and went through all this.
Funny how that’s works becuase you can add more axle behind a semi and gross more but you can’t do that with a mini semi truck?? Checks out. So if I buy a single axle kenworth rated for 19k on its own with a 6.7 Cummins and a 6 speed auto I can tow 40k then? Literally the same thing as a 5500 class.
What is the 12% tax youre talking about on the 5500 trailer? I have a 2020 3500 HO and a 24k rated trailer. When you get into the 40k lbs trailers is there an extra tax? I have my CDL and a 35k weight declaration sticker. I know I could gross more but trailer is pretty much maxed out with the equipment I haul for my business. I've considered a more heavy duty trailer but am not familiar with the 12% tax.
I gotta be the guy to ask about something the video isn't about. The cover/shed between containers. Who made yours what should someone know about that setup that only comes from having one?
The two/three things I'd do when moving up to a class 8 rig is, a quad cab for interior space or a day cab, and do a 4X4 conversion on a single axle. Expect a doubling of your insurance rate. I used Ford F450's for tow trucks. Then the GVRW weight limits changed and a steel bed rollback became too heavy, as DOT was limiting you to the manufacturers placard weight. I was paying $14k a year for 3 trucks with a million liability coverage. Found a deal on a Western Star with a Century 40 ton boom and winch. The insurance on the Western Star was $9k. Added a International 4900 tandem rollback with steel bed to move equipment, and another $8k insurance. No claims in 6 years. I don't regret purchasing larger equipment, however I had to increase the rate I charged.
Dont think that 5500 can hold a candle to a 6nz w/ air brake/ride. Love your setups but theirs different levels to heavy hauling. I think you would appreciate the comforts and safety of a big truck in those hills you got. Obviously your getting it done with what you got so can’t complain. Stay safe
If the 5500 gcwr is 32k how can you tow 50k and get tags for 54k? Is the Gcwr just a made up number by the manufacturers? Do you just go off of the axel weight ratings? As long as you're under the front axel weight and rear axel and trailer axel ratings your good? And of course your tires must be rated for the weight i understand.
@@VBELTandSON that's how I figured it. I have a 2023 3500 srw it's gcwr is 27900lbs my last haul I grossed out at 32700 lbs but I was good on my axels so I wasn't worried about the Gcwr of the truck.
You're nuts man. I hope you never have any sort of incident while hauling, cause the lawyers are gonna eat you alive on GVWR, GCWR, hitch rating, CDL class, axle spacing, axle loading, tire rating, tire tread, maintenance logs, safety gear, spare fuses, etc, whether it's your fault or not (anything they can do to claim you have a pattern of negligence). Ask me how I know. Anything larger than a skid steer gets pulled behind my Class 8 air-brake truck now (in Texas), and I'm still nervous, because it doesn't matter whose fault it is, the commercial guy always gets sued. Best I can hope for is to give my insurance company a fighting chance to fend off the ambulance chasers and hope they don't raise my rates for bs that isn't my fault.
What are you talking about? He is plated to haul what he hauls and has his class A CDL. Why would insurance " eat him alive" anymore than someone driving a prius? Accidents happen and we have insurance to protect ourselves from any "eating alive"
@@gungadinn Yeah, I have a 5500 too. It's good for 9k of payload after you factor in bed weight. His might be 10k. That 10k is the weight of the trailer. So with tandem 16k axles, that's good for 32k of payload on the trailer. Bet he's been over that before. I'm not hating on him. Love his content. But pulling heavy with a single axle class 6 truck is great until it isn't. The bite hurts.
@@warrenmichael918 I didn't say insurance, I said lawyers. Have you been sued while driving a commercial vehicle? I have, and it was a rental that had a mechanical failure, not a driver/moving violation. Your life hasn't been under a microscope until you have experienced that.
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Love this type of talk.(vid)
Rolling heavy 💪🏻
I am running a 06 Ram 3500 pulling an 080-4 and have no problems running 70 mph in southeast Texas. My house is 9 ft above sea level and there is only about 5 ft of elevation change across the whole county.
I really love watching the Toy gear The way you do it Just buy a Proper. Truck I'm been doing with it You can always keep a t Toy
I’m at 6,500ft above sea level lol
9 sounds insane!
I love that you put these trucks to work and they seem fit your niche perfectly. Is there a hypothetical setup you wish you had (truck or trailer or both) that would fit your needs better that doesn't exist?
I've recently been laid up from back surgery from years of hard work. I came across your channel, and I'm a big fan. I love seeing people's equipment dreams come true, especially through hard work. I'm especially inspired, considering your doing this inspite of California. Although oregon where I live, as you know isn't much better. Good job bud. Living the American dream through hard work. You have probably sold almost as many rams as yellowstone. Have a good one
I love my 4500 and 5500's - converted both of them to a pickup by doing a box swap and stretching it. Best of both worlds. Truthfully I dont tow anywhere near you, I draw the line at 32k (toy hauler and race car). Trucks have way more in them and way more brakes but that feels comfortable for me and the entire package. Love the C&C trucks and I still have 4WD for going over the mountains when its snowing.
You forgot to mention the added braking power with the 5500.
Nice setup. A lot of the jobs you seem to go to are super tight and sometimes require 4x4. would a semi even make it onto some of your job sites?
Marques pipeline, Tiechert and Lund construction all run a flatbed setup, with an air brake bumper pull trailer and they seem very versatile and more than capable. You can use ramps to go from your trailer to your flatbed and potentially haul 3 pieces at once. Track chipper on the flatbed, tl12 and 080 on the trailer would be slick.
Most of my jobs you can’t get into with a semi bumper pull set up. And again come into weight issues where can’t haul to bigger ones legally at same time without permit. I have a buddy that has a set up like that. But he also grabbed a gooseneck and uses the goose often
I still stand by my first/original opinion. I think you made the best decision with the most recent 5500. That truck is designed/engineered to do what you are doing with it. Anything heavier, the 4X4 capability gets involved in the conversation. JMHO --gary
I’m first great vids keep going bud
I don't have equipment to haul around like you do, but I moved up from hotshot to semi and I'm loving it. My 2010 Peterbilt with it's ISX-15 and 13 speed climbs mountains like a champ and I only have to hit the brakes going down if I pick the wrong gear at the top. LOVE my jakes and the sleeper. Cruises 70 MPH at 1,500 - 1,550 RPM even when grossing 77 - 78K. As for your 3500 rig, aren't you limited by the tongue weight and maintaining 15-20% tongue weight? Putting most of the weight on the trailer axles and not enough on the pin will make it sketchy at best... I always aimed for 17% tongue weight. On my trailer, that was with the load centered on the midpoint. Some guys put way too much tongue weight and then they wonder why they get pounded and then wind up with cracked welds.
The tongue weight is why he went with the 5500, he mentioned he can have 8500 on the pin which would be a 42,500lb trailer at 20%.
I think the semi makes more sense when you’re doing long interstate runs from loading dock to loading dock vs. someone who mostly hauls their equipment around to jobs in their county
Ending was worth it
With what I do my 3500 is perfect. I'll be getting a 40k rated diamond c trailer in the next few years.
My kenworth plus low bed weight 45,000 pounds empty.
How come you haven’t added the juice to the 5500 like Bobby J?
What up man. I’m still going to install a load leash on my shit along with a Vogt turbo that is not from BD diesel. Chris Patterson that has his 3,000 horse power mean green common rail likes BD diesel a lot. I might get a turbo from them also i got to drive a 12v that came to our shop 15 years ago that had a set of those tow twins. We fired ringed his rig and he had a bad head gasket . Anyways man I have an afe blade runner for a back up and I have a turbo that I found on eBay that is an phatshaft industrial injection. Not everybody knows what they are looking at lol. We are also a dealer for industrial injection. We are doing another compound turbo set up on a 6.7 Cummins with a customer request with a Randys transmission. I can’t wait to see it on our dyno 💪🏼🥳🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I have a new 3500 HO on order and I should have it 8-10 weeks. Could you talk about how you brake in your trucks during the first 500-1000 miles. How soon do you do your first oil change? Thank you!
I have videos on both of those subjects
In Pa DOT has been known for checking manufacture’s GCWR. Not just what the truck is registered for. Even if the axles, tires, and axle weights are within spec. If an accident were to happen how do you know you’re safe if the truck is registered for more than the manufacturer’s rating? Everything is well documented these days with the manufacturer’s rating for towing, GVW, GCWR etc. I also have a 5500 and have to register it for GCWR and went through all this.
Funny how that’s works becuase you can add more axle behind a semi and gross more but you can’t do that with a mini semi truck?? Checks out. So if I buy a single axle kenworth rated for 19k on its own with a 6.7 Cummins and a 6 speed auto I can tow 40k then? Literally the same thing as a 5500 class.
What is the 12% tax youre talking about on the 5500 trailer? I have a 2020 3500 HO and a 24k rated trailer. When you get into the 40k lbs trailers is there an extra tax? I have my CDL and a 35k weight declaration sticker. I know I could gross more but trailer is pretty much maxed out with the equipment I haul for my business. I've considered a more heavy duty trailer but am not familiar with the 12% tax.
Look up fet tax.
Hey have you checked into the 6.7L Cummins 2007.5 thru 2018 engine killer heater bolt/nut yet....?
All seem solid still
hey nice joint video , Mr OPERATORBELT AND SON
I gotta be the guy to ask about something the video isn't about. The cover/shed between containers. Who made yours what should someone know about that setup that only comes from having one?
Not sure the brand. But I have several videos on the cover
What brand front bumper do you have on the 3500?
Truck defender I think
What brand gooseneck hitch do you have on your 5500? Thanks
B and w 3 inch
@@VBELTandSON thanks!
The two/three things I'd do when moving up to a class 8 rig is, a quad cab for interior space or a day cab, and do a 4X4 conversion on a single axle.
Expect a doubling of your insurance rate.
I used Ford F450's for tow trucks. Then the GVRW weight limits changed and a steel bed rollback became too heavy, as DOT was limiting you to the manufacturers placard weight. I was paying $14k a year for 3 trucks with a million liability coverage.
Found a deal on a Western Star with a Century 40 ton boom and winch. The insurance on the Western Star was $9k. Added a International 4900 tandem rollback with steel bed to move equipment, and another $8k insurance. No claims in 6 years.
I don't regret purchasing larger equipment, however I had to increase the rate I charged.
He just slammed us Tavit! Entry level phhhft 😂
😂😂
Dont think that 5500 can hold a candle to a 6nz w/ air brake/ride. Love your setups but theirs different levels to heavy hauling. I think you would appreciate the comforts and safety of a big truck in those hills you got. Obviously your getting it done with what you got so can’t complain. Stay safe
Haven’t ever felt sketchy towing with this set up. Brakes do a great job.
Your equipment has grown so now your towing equipment needs to grow also
I think yall would like to to see my truck bed for my 5gen
What would you be grossing if you put the Kobelco behind your 5500?
I’d guess 46
@@hagiwoodworks7759 that excavator is around the 30,000 lbs mark so it’s probably going to be at or more than 50,000
The Kobelco is 46,000lbs by itself. I wouldn’t even consider hauling it with a pick up truck
@@zb6618 good thing he is plated for 54K
@@VBELTandSON oh wow, I thought it was a 14 ton not a 20
If the 5500 gcwr is 32k how can you tow 50k and get tags for 54k? Is the Gcwr just a made up number by the manufacturers? Do you just go off of the axel weight ratings? As long as you're under the front axel weight and rear axel and trailer axel ratings your good? And of course your tires must be rated for the weight i understand.
Yes the trailer carries the weight. Frame is twice as thick as a 3500
@@VBELTandSON that's how I figured it. I have a 2023 3500 srw it's gcwr is 27900lbs my last haul I grossed out at 32700 lbs but I was good on my axels so I wasn't worried about the Gcwr of the truck.
Where's the 08?!
Hibernation
Legality I thank God you can still have a diesel in California lol😊
The big LOL is that the whole country is lucky to have diesel still
The big LOL is that the whole country is lucky to have diesel still
You're nuts man. I hope you never have any sort of incident while hauling, cause the lawyers are gonna eat you alive on GVWR, GCWR, hitch rating, CDL class, axle spacing, axle loading, tire rating, tire tread, maintenance logs, safety gear, spare fuses, etc, whether it's your fault or not (anything they can do to claim you have a pattern of negligence). Ask me how I know. Anything larger than a skid steer gets pulled behind my Class 8 air-brake truck now (in Texas), and I'm still nervous, because it doesn't matter whose fault it is, the commercial guy always gets sued. Best I can hope for is to give my insurance company a fighting chance to fend off the ambulance chasers and hope they don't raise my rates for bs that isn't my fault.
He has a Class A CDL. The Ram 5500 is plated to 54,000. Sam has scaled the truck and is good on axle weights and spacing.
I wouldn’t run it unless it was legit.
What are you talking about? He is plated to haul what he hauls and has his class A CDL. Why would insurance " eat him alive" anymore than someone driving a prius? Accidents happen and we have insurance to protect ourselves from any "eating alive"
@@gungadinn Yeah, I have a 5500 too. It's good for 9k of payload after you factor in bed weight. His might be 10k. That 10k is the weight of the trailer. So with tandem 16k axles, that's good for 32k of payload on the trailer. Bet he's been over that before. I'm not hating on him. Love his content. But pulling heavy with a single axle class 6 truck is great until it isn't. The bite hurts.
@@warrenmichael918 I didn't say insurance, I said lawyers. Have you been sued while driving a commercial vehicle? I have, and it was a rental that had a mechanical failure, not a driver/moving violation. Your life hasn't been under a microscope until you have experienced that.