What a great blast from the past!!! I had the 205GTi, XR3i, RS1600i, RS Turbo and for a short stint the Renault 5 GT Turbo...yes I went through them all during my boy racer days...oh what great times we had the 80's!!!
i heard the Daihatsu charade gtti was pretty mental for its day. 1.0 litre turbo 3 pot , 100bhp , weighed the same as a TV and managed sub 8 second 0-60!
I owned one after being a passenger in my friends one. Absolutely the most fun I've had. Wish I'd never sold now being in my 40s. 993CC and 3 cylinders.
Fiat Uno Turbo i.e (mk1)? I know they didn't have the same WRC punch as the Renault 5 Turbo, Peugeot 205 Gti, but there are people who've had great memories with them (people who have also owned 5 turbos and 205 gtis). I'm in the midst of collecting original parts for my rather rotten 1989 Fiat Uno Turbo i.e MK1 but I do feel that once it's done it'll still be "hot" or at least 1980's retro cool.
@@-DC- They all had some digital dash offering if I remember. Compared to what was being offered as a base car yeah they must have been quick. The list of what was available in the 80's was actually large......Diahatsu Charade Turbo, Nissan Cherry Turbo, Nissan Micra Turbo, MG Metro Turbo, etc
@@TheMich36 He had the MK1 Astra GTE which was admittedly worse than the MK2. But when the MK2 was kicking around, he had the 205 GTi. He told me that he let his friend (who had a Sierra XR4x4) drive his 205 and after the drive he was shaking from how good it was. I'm only 19 and sadly will likely never experience a car like that. They just don't make them like they used to.
I'm about the same age as your father is my guess. Good that the younger generation still loves those cars. I still love cars from the 80's. Had a Golf GTI myself in the early 90's. Several BMW'S from the 80's as well. Like you said, they don't make them like that anymore. I hope you'll get to drive one of them some day.
@@TheMich36 I have no issue with stating how old my Dad is - he's 56. I am into motorsport and cars because of my love of driving. The 205, Golf GTi and others aswell just capture every sensation that driving offers and heightens it to the tenth degree. I learnt to drive in an Ecoboost Fiesta with more power than a 205 GTi, crazy thought.
My first car at 17 was an XR2 in Diamond White. It was in absolutely prestine condition as it belonged to my older sister first, it was spotless and so realible. It handled like it was on rails! and was pretty quick off the line. I'm 43 now, and I've owned 28 cars since including an R.S Turbo, 6 Alfa Romeos, a Subaru Impreza P1, BMW 325i and a MGZS 180.... and I still miss my little Fiesta.... I was the bees knees amoungst my friends back then :)
I had two AX GT's and loved them both. A 1988 burgundy mk1, with the yoghurt pot interior, and a 1992 red mk2 with the 'much improved' ZX style interior, which weighed more and never quite took my heart in the same way. I wish I still had Yog, my first ever car - I cried when it drove away.
These cars from the 80’s will never be equalled! Regardless of brand loyalty, we all appreciated each manufacturers offering and would gladly own either! Especially with the passing of time! Rose tinted specks and all that jazz! This was an amazing time to be involved in this Motoring Era!!! Looking back, we where spoiled for choice, and everyone’s car was better than the others!!! Don’t get me started on 18” Subs! Lol! Great times & Dreams! 💪👍😎
I had an MG Metro turbo which was pretty terrible! Though I redeemed myself with a couple of 205 gti's. My limited edition miami blue 1.9 was fabulous - they still look good today!
Alfasud Cloverleaf 105Ti has to be a top runner, sounded amazing fairly quick but handled on another level. Dogged by electrics and rust but loved mine.
A99HFV. My limited edition graphite grey XR3i was my love. Full Alpine ICE and MK4 dog leg alloys as didn't like the clover leaf. It was one of those rare freaks that's built the same as any other, but for some unexplained reason, was much quicker than others. ❤
I'm so happy I was of driving age when all of these cars were on the road , shame I only drove one though ,but raced a few of the others in an old honda CRX .
What about Citroen’s visa gti 115 bhp very light car, handled like a go kart with front and rear anti roll bars. I used to leave xr2s , xr3is and gte behind going down country lanes. Fantastic car .
So many cars I wish hadn't sold!😂 A few I've had in my 20s were: Nova SR Renault 19 16V Nissan Pulsar Gtir Charade gtti Impreza Sti Ford Escort RS turbo The most fun was the Charade. The quickest was the Pulsar.
My Favourites, Fiesta RS Turbo, Starlet TURBO, Mazda 323 16v DOHC Turbo AWS (The Beast), Renault Clio 16v Willians, Fiat uno i.e Turbo and just for laughs, my first car was a Princess HLS
@@redram5150 they said It in context, the muscle cars were never sold in UK , but they were built for kids and offered speed atca cut down price. This video is abouts that were sold in the UK, Hot Hatches were around in USA but UK it was the biggest in the world, Ford responded with Fiesta Super Sport , then XR2, then Escort XR3i, then Escort RS Turbo, Fiesta RS turbo , Escort Cosworth , non were sold in USA, Hot Hatches were boy racer cars in UK youth of UK drove Hot Hatches Americans had Muscle. Dodge Omni was not sold in UK or Europe and was not driven here at all so Britain do not know about that cer just like Americans did not know about Australian muscle cars from early 70s, I know about Omni because I have been into American cars since i was like 4. If this was done by an American then Omni would be in it as was sold in USA many Hot Hatches sold in UK many Americans never heard of because muscle cars King,
The dodge omni was originally a simca/Talbot horizon, or chrysler horizon in the UK, a car originally designed and build in France, the biggest engine in Europe though was the 1,4l "poissy" engine a quit efficient engine but could only develop 70hp, in America they had a shelby version doing 175hp, I have also heard the Australian had a 2,5l bi-turbo. Also, the car was based on a simca 1100, which coincidently was also the first hot hatch ever historically with the simca 1100 ti, note that the horizon was an inspiration for the Talbot sunbeam, which had a lotus version, a quite efficient design, the french however had a concept of the horizon based on the 205 gti when peugeot bought them back in 1978
Honestly, the Visa GTi would have been a better representative to Citroën than the AX, since it had a very eighties look, and a more capable 1.5 L engine with 113 hp; with the FWD layout, it had a 0-60 below 9 seconds, and the top speed of 119 mph (192 km/h).
The Daihatsu Charade GTti is pretty underrated and anticipated the trend of downsized 3-cylinder turbocharged engines by a few decades, the Volkswagen Up! GTi is the only recent Hot Hatch that springs to mind which captures at least some of the formula of the Charade GTti.
@@Gentleman...Driver would agree with the 125-140 hp 1.0 Ecoboost versions of the Ford Fiesta as a more direct comparison in terms of displacement, yet in terms of size and segment the Ford Ka+ would be relatively more apt had it featured the above engines in that specific state of tune.
How can you not feature or even show a photo of the original Mk1 Golf GTI, arguably the original hit hatch when you briefly feature the Fiesta Supersport, fore runner of the XR2 and brief shots of an Astra GTE mk1 ? It sold from 1979 to 1984 so undoubtedly an eighties hit hatch. This unfortunately lets the video down.
I'm disappointed that the Dodge Omni wasn't mentioned. Especially the GLH and GLH-S versions. It's my opinion that they stand right with the best you showed in this video.
Ill informed I’m afraid.. AX GT and Fiesta XR2 on the list but neither Fiat Ritmo (Strada UK) 130TC or Uno Turbo..? You’re clearly too young to have driven all these cars, but if you cared to dig out group tests from the day you’ll see which cars won them
S1 Escort RS Turbo. Was a proper homologation car and one of the 1st fwd cars to get Turbocharging to work effectively, plus 1st fwd car in the world with LSD (viscous coupling)
Brazilian Uno Turbo has a better chassis then others versions. Sadly, the Jetronic is the source of the problems. So we use a programable EFI like Fueltech.
The 205 GTI was okay but a lot were written off..The steering wheel and tyres looked too big for the size of the car..The 309 GTI 1.9 was better okay it didn't look as good but it had better handling and they are very rare today.
Sorry have to comment again, this video is garbage. The mk1 Astra GTE from 84 was faster than the XR3I, Golf Gti and pretty much every other hot hatch on 84, you say it was off the pace?? And for the S1 RS Turbos outrageous rear wing?. What same wing that came on the XR3 and Xr3i?? Is this a wikipedia robot making this video or what?
We love to ask the obvious questions at GRR. So here we go, what is the best hot hatch of the 80s?
5 gt turbo
Saab 900
86 Escort RS
Too much to choose from! Can't got wrong with something British sooo.... A ford xr2!
86 Escort Rs
We went from this to SUVs and crossovers. It's sickening.
👍yeh what the hell happened...☹️☹️☹️
@@mudskipper0075 women started to drive🤣
@@Beastnappy Yeah, SUVS and crossovers appeared in the early 1960s...
I didn’t
What a great blast from the past!!! I had the 205GTi, XR3i, RS1600i, RS Turbo and for a short stint the Renault 5 GT Turbo...yes I went through them all during my boy racer days...oh what great times we had the 80's!!!
RS1600i was a lovely motor
I had a Renault 5 GT turbo when I was 20. I thought that I was the coolest kid in town lol
You probably were.
I had one at 21, still got it.
@@bigpete4227 you're one of the luckiest men out there
@@nomad5299 been in a lockup for £20 years untouched. One day I’ll sort it out.
@@bigpete4227 get it back on the road :)
i heard the Daihatsu charade gtti was pretty mental for its day. 1.0 litre turbo 3 pot , 100bhp , weighed the same as a TV and managed sub 8 second 0-60!
They were rapid mate
I have a steering wheel off one of thoss lol
I owned one after being a passenger in my friends one. Absolutely the most fun I've had. Wish I'd never sold now being in my 40s. 993CC and 3 cylinders.
My wife's Suzuki swift 1.0 szt has 111 hp and weighs 920kg.
It's surprisingly er swift. 😂
Had a Mk1 XR2, Mk2 XR2, and S2 Escort RS Turbo.. Loved them all..
I loved my Astra GTE 16v, I remember all of these weapons :-D Happy days!!
Fiat Uno Turbo i.e (mk1)? I know they didn't have the same WRC punch as the Renault 5 Turbo, Peugeot 205 Gti, but there are people who've had great memories with them (people who have also owned 5 turbos and 205 gtis). I'm in the midst of collecting original parts for my rather rotten 1989 Fiat Uno Turbo i.e MK1 but I do feel that once it's done it'll still be "hot" or at least 1980's retro cool.
@@-DC- They all had some digital dash offering if I remember. Compared to what was being offered as a base car yeah they must have been quick. The list of what was available in the 80's was actually large......Diahatsu Charade Turbo, Nissan Cherry Turbo, Nissan Micra Turbo, MG Metro Turbo, etc
My Dad had a 205 GTi 1.9 and an Astra GTE in period. I have a very cool Father.
sounds like you do have a very cool father.
@@TheMich36 He had the MK1 Astra GTE which was admittedly worse than the MK2. But when the MK2 was kicking around, he had the 205 GTi. He told me that he let his friend (who had a Sierra XR4x4) drive his 205 and after the drive he was shaking from how good it was. I'm only 19 and sadly will likely never experience a car like that. They just don't make them like they used to.
I'm about the same age as your father is my guess. Good that the younger generation still loves those cars. I still love cars from the 80's. Had a Golf GTI myself in the early 90's. Several BMW'S from the 80's as well. Like you said, they don't make them like that anymore. I hope you'll get to drive one of them some day.
Dadcool.
@@TheMich36 I have no issue with stating how old my Dad is - he's 56. I am into motorsport and cars because of my love of driving. The 205, Golf GTi and others aswell just capture every sensation that driving offers and heightens it to the tenth degree. I learnt to drive in an Ecoboost Fiesta with more power than a 205 GTi, crazy thought.
My first car at 17 was an XR2 in Diamond White. It was in absolutely prestine condition as it belonged to my older sister first, it was spotless and so realible. It handled like it was on rails! and was pretty quick off the line. I'm 43 now, and I've owned 28 cars since including an R.S Turbo, 6 Alfa Romeos, a Subaru Impreza P1, BMW 325i and a MGZS 180.... and I still miss my little Fiesta.... I was the bees knees amoungst my friends back then :)
You forgot the best hot hatch ever!!!
Lotus sunbeam!!!!
The title says 80s, Sunbeam was 70s
@@gmain1977
Sunbeam Lotus was first sold in summer of '79 and continued into '81, so it was an '80s hot hatch.
@@lewis72 its probably not on the list because their so rare everyone forgets they exist!
Had 1.6 and 1.9 Peogeot GTi great cars
1.9 was a beast, you could pull off and wheel spin in 3rd gear!
What about the Renault 11 turbo, the AX Sport or the GTi, the Visa GTi, the Fiat Uno turbo, the Lancia Y 10 turbo, the Peugeot 205 Rallye, etc.
I really wish hot hatches were ever a thing in the US.
VW GTI & Corrado, and the Dodge Daytona & GLH were fast and fun. I always loved the much ignored Dodge Omni
You could now import some of these cars now and have something a bit different on your roads?
I had two AX GT's and loved them both. A 1988 burgundy mk1, with the yoghurt pot interior, and a 1992 red mk2 with the 'much improved' ZX style interior, which weighed more and never quite took my heart in the same way. I wish I still had Yog, my first ever car - I cried when it drove away.
loved my Renault 5 GT turbo,until I blew the engine up, always fancied a Nissan Pulsar though
Why not get a micra, they're like a mazda mx5 if the pulsar is the Honda s2000
@@evelynkinson5524 Micra 🤣🤣
Are you kidding where is the Fiat Uno Turbo!!!!????
Have seen how much these cars go for now.
These cars from the 80’s will never be equalled!
Regardless of brand loyalty, we all appreciated each manufacturers offering and would gladly own either!
Especially with the passing of time!
Rose tinted specks and all that jazz!
This was an amazing time to be involved in this Motoring Era!!!
Looking back, we where spoiled for choice, and everyone’s car was better than the others!!!
Don’t get me started on 18” Subs!
Lol!
Great times & Dreams! 💪👍😎
Shame no mention of any of the MG stable Metro / Maestro Turbos nor the Fiat Uno Turbo
One forgotten gem from those days was the Corolla GT in fwd, had one for a few years and it was excellent.
Ffs tirn this off so many inaccuracies
Don't you know the difference between a mk1 and an mk2 fiesta?
I’m surprised the Toyota Corolla AE86 didn’t make it to this list, many people say it’s overrated, but it truly was a great car.
Probably because it was more of a sport coupe than a hot hatch, given the liftback rear and FR-layout.
I had a Mrk 1 & Mrk 2 XR2. By far the most enjoyable to drive was the Mrk 1, loved it...
It will be great if big car manufacturers can consider reproducing certain units of these classic cars so today's younger buyers can still enjoy them.
I had an MG Metro turbo which was pretty terrible! Though I redeemed myself with a couple of 205 gti's. My limited edition miami blue 1.9 was fabulous - they still look good today!
Alfasud Cloverleaf 105Ti has to be a top runner, sounded amazing fairly quick but handled on another level. Dogged by electrics and rust but loved mine.
I always thought the XR in Ford's cars stood for eXperimental Research.
I had a 5 door AX GT then a 1989 (MK2) Honda CRX - still to this day the most fun / best handling car I've ever had 😍😍♥️♥️
A99HFV. My limited edition graphite grey XR3i was my love.
Full Alpine ICE and MK4 dog leg alloys as didn't like the clover leaf.
It was one of those rare freaks that's built the same as any other, but for some unexplained reason, was much quicker than others. ❤
I'm so happy I was of driving age when all of these cars were on the road , shame I only drove one though ,but raced a few of the others in an old honda CRX .
The s1 rs turbo was also on black for Princess Di.
Mg maestro turbo for me.
Own one wish I'd kept it 😐
My brother had a Renault 5 gt turbo and he never let me drive it but it was awesome. I had an 83 xr3i in sunburst red .
The Peugeot 205 GTi was a marketing miracle. 25 years in production without an update!
1983-1998. He's a decade out.
25 year production run for the 205 ? Haha
Yeah haha it's actually 15 which is a long time without a revamp, but a bad mistake nonetheless
Peugeot 205 GTI
Peugeot 205.VW Golf. Superb
No mention of Lancia Delta, Alfasud, Fiat Uno Turbo, boring.......
What about Citroen’s visa gti 115 bhp very light car, handled like a go kart with front and rear anti roll bars. I used to leave xr2s , xr3is and gte behind going down country lanes. Fantastic car .
The 80's may have had plenty of hatches in the UK but world wide it was the decade of the Turbo. Power for everyone
The 205 did have styling refreshes.
So many cars I wish hadn't sold!😂
A few I've had in my 20s were:
Nova SR
Renault 19 16V
Nissan Pulsar Gtir
Charade gtti
Impreza Sti
Ford Escort RS turbo
The most fun was the Charade. The quickest was the Pulsar.
Why wasn't the FIAT UNO Turbo here?
Glad the Ford Escort Rs Turbo made it to this list, as it proved itself to be one of the most legendary rally cars to this day.
A joke of course ???
I wish I still had my 205 gti. Best car I ever had.
And the Fiat uno turbo?
Glad to see the AXGT make the list !
Loved my AX GT ,not that powerful but didn’t need to be when it weighed the same as a crisp packet ,build quality was laughable even then...👍
I am just in the middle of a Mk1 AXGT restoration, so as it is often forgotten about and overlooked, was just glad it made the cut.
We all know the answer a 205GTI ( I still own one!)
You know
@@dashcam2417 mines an mi16 on jenvey throttle bodies!
@@dashcam2417 owned for 20 years! Hindsight is a wonderful thing!
@@dashcam2417 Raider....ooof!
@Andrew Cordingley My brother had a 16v Clio followed by a 172....modern 205s!
My Favourites, Fiesta RS Turbo, Starlet TURBO, Mazda 323 16v DOHC Turbo AWS (The Beast), Renault Clio 16v Willians, Fiat uno i.e Turbo and just for laughs, my first car was a Princess HLS
Forgot about the 80s jspec 323 1.8 gtx awd I see.
My favorite 80"s hatchback was the Volkswagen Scirocco
No Dodge Omni GLH/GLH-S? I loved those cars
These unfortunately never come to the U.K.
They on about UK market
@@gmain1977 the intro goes on about the muscle car era. It’s definitely not just the UK
@@redram5150 they said
It in context, the muscle cars were never sold in UK , but they were built for kids and offered speed atca cut down price.
This video is
abouts that were sold in the UK, Hot Hatches were around in USA but UK it was the biggest in the world, Ford responded with Fiesta Super Sport , then XR2, then Escort XR3i, then Escort RS Turbo, Fiesta RS turbo , Escort Cosworth , non were sold in USA, Hot Hatches were boy racer cars in UK youth of UK drove Hot Hatches Americans had Muscle.
Dodge Omni was not sold in UK or Europe and was not driven here at all so Britain do not know about that cer just like Americans did not know about Australian muscle cars from early 70s, I know about Omni because I have been into American cars since i was like 4.
If this was done by an American then Omni would be in it as was sold in USA many Hot Hatches sold in UK many Americans never heard of because muscle cars King,
The dodge omni was originally a simca/Talbot horizon, or chrysler horizon in the UK, a car originally designed and build in France, the biggest engine in Europe though was the 1,4l "poissy" engine a quit efficient engine but could only develop 70hp, in America they had a shelby version doing 175hp, I have also heard the Australian had a 2,5l bi-turbo. Also, the car was based on a simca 1100, which coincidently was also the first hot hatch ever historically with the simca 1100 ti, note that the horizon was an inspiration for the Talbot sunbeam, which had a lotus version, a quite efficient design, the french however had a concept of the horizon based on the 205 gti when peugeot bought them back in 1978
Renault 5 gt turbo, what a car.
205 gti 🦁🦁😍❤️
Honestly, the Visa GTi would have been a better representative to Citroën than the AX, since it had a very eighties look, and a more capable 1.5 L engine with 113 hp; with the FWD layout, it had a 0-60 below 9 seconds, and the top speed of 119 mph (192 km/h).
The Daihatsu Charade GTti is pretty underrated and anticipated the trend of downsized 3-cylinder turbocharged engines by a few decades, the Volkswagen Up! GTi is the only recent Hot Hatch that springs to mind which captures at least some of the formula of the Charade GTti.
Ford Fiesta ST has also a 3 cylinder engine. Before that they had the Ford Fiesta Sport.
@@Gentleman...Driver would agree with the 125-140 hp 1.0 Ecoboost versions of the Ford Fiesta as a more direct comparison in terms of displacement, yet in terms of size and segment the Ford Ka+ would be relatively more apt had it featured the above engines in that specific state of tune.
The Peugeot 205 didn't have a 25 year production run! 😂
The mk2 GTI 8v was far from slow, and in no way "pretty underwhelming". It could fairly compete with the whole competition
205 insuperable
205 25 year run? Slightly misinformed there!
Only wrong by 10 years!
A script typo I think.
I had a r5 gt turbo and a swift 1.3 gti both very fast
Spot lights, not fog lights! Doh!
What, no Honda's ? FAIL.
Honda's are overrated. Also I believe the hot hatch civic from the 80's or CR's were not sold in the UK car market
>>it even came with the most 1980's digital dashboard that you have ever seen
Peugeot 205gti. Absolutely the best car I have ever driven!!!!
How can you not feature or even show a photo of the original Mk1 Golf GTI, arguably the original hit hatch when you briefly feature the Fiesta Supersport, fore runner of the XR2 and brief shots of an Astra GTE mk1 ? It sold from 1979 to 1984 so undoubtedly an eighties hit hatch. This unfortunately lets the video down.
You'll find the Mk1 in our video on 1970s hatches, here: ruclips.net/video/kHYUOeDZ1vM/видео.html
Where’s the Corolla fx16 GTS and AE86
Where is the MG Metro and Maestro Turbo?
I'm disappointed that the Dodge Omni wasn't mentioned. Especially the GLH and GLH-S versions. It's my opinion that they stand right with the best you showed in this video.
This video was for cars sold in the UK , those cars were never sold in UK.
@@gmain1977 I saw Fords and thought that it was internationally represented.
@@alanrobinson4318 no Fords that were sold in UK were not sold in the USA
@@gmain1977 Too bad, I think you guys would've liked them.
@@alanrobinson4318 yeah but Chrysler did not send them here.
We had Lotus Sunbeam back in 70s.
The Omni is cool though
the car you missed out was way better than most of these alfasud sprint
Peugeot 205 Gti 1.9 the 1st car I bought
Erm MG Maestro Turbo or EFI1??
i had Fiat uno, pug 205 gti, shortly drove vw golf, citeoen ax gt, best off all is 205 gti fellowd by fiat uno,, slowest was vw gti 8v
Ill informed I’m afraid.. AX GT and Fiesta XR2 on the list but neither Fiat Ritmo (Strada UK) 130TC or Uno Turbo..?
You’re clearly too young to have driven all these cars, but if you cared to dig out group tests from the day you’ll see which cars won them
"Clearly"
One Black RS Turbo was made, Princess Di had it.
To be fair it was a regular white S1 off the showroom floor, Ford stripped it to a shell and re-painted black for her.
Ford rs turbo s1 all the way and worth the most today Renault and Peugeot are for people who couldn't afford a ford 😀
S1 Escort RS Turbo. Was a proper homologation car and one of the 1st fwd cars to get Turbocharging to work effectively, plus 1st fwd car in the world with LSD (viscous coupling)
One day I *will* own an AX GT, and I WILL do it justice, with wider and stickier tires. (I'm looking at you, Dunlop Direzza Z3).
Uhm, Mazda 1986-88 323 Bf FWD/4WD? Corolla S/C 4agze?
Why did we go from this to Minivans and SUV's? WHY?
And wheres the Fiat Uno Turbo ie?
Brazilian Uno Turbo has a better chassis then others versions.
Sadly, the Jetronic is the source of the problems. So we use a programable EFI like Fueltech.
Fiat uno turbo?
I'm pretty sure the 205 didn't have a 25 year production run......
I think there may have been a script typo...
Mk2 xr2. Beast of a caro didnt and still don’t get why people rave about the golf gti
Be very careful here Goodwood......
That sounds threatening.
Well it is a touchy subject, and i did comment early in the viewing. Great video, very balanced.... The comments speak!
The Uno Turbo?????????
Should have had the Nova GTE in there.
GTi wins
It's funny that my 1l Kia Picanto GT-Line S "Bumblebee" edition is as powerful and as fast as the 205 1.9GTI!
No corolla GT!
I would say 900 turbo
No mg metro turbo
And the fiat uno turbo was far better than any of them
The 205 GTI was okay but a lot were written off..The steering wheel and tyres looked too big for the size of the car..The 309 GTI 1.9 was better okay it didn't look as good but it had better handling and they are very rare today.
Duck You SUVs and Crossovers.
Seat ibiza system porsche
Sorry have to comment again, this video is garbage. The mk1 Astra GTE from 84 was faster than the XR3I, Golf Gti and pretty much every other hot hatch on 84, you say it was off the pace?? And for the S1 RS Turbos outrageous rear wing?. What same wing that came on the XR3 and Xr3i?? Is this a wikipedia robot making this video or what?