Adding WHITE GOUACHE to WATERCOLOR (and comparing 5 BRANDS of white gouache)
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- In today's video we are comparing 5 brands of White Gouache as well as adding white gouache to watercolor. I'll also talk about the differences between zinc white and titanium white. We'll do some side-by-side comparisons and I'll share some tips and thoughts about this technique during this demo. #gouache #watercolor
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00:00 Intro
00:20 Comparing 5 Brands of White Gouache
00:44 Testing the tinting strength
02:32 Results
04:26 Adding white gouache to watercolor & tips
08:15 Visualizing the white gouache effect
09:46 More tips
12:45 Results
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Sarah - this was the most perfect tutorial for this moment. I just purchased supplies to begin a watercolor journey, and on the advice of another youtuber, purchased the Schmincke Zinc White Gouache so that I could play with gouache as well. As a medium, gouache fascinates me, and I loved the effects of using gouache in a watercolor, mixing the two mediums. What an amazing way to end up with 2 paint sets in one! Every minute of this video provided the info to get started - thank you! The most exciting, was to see the impact of laying down the pink and gray wash as a first step. I've not yet seen this technique realized so beautifully and clearly. Bravo! And thank you for all you share. 🙏❤🙏
Very interesting to see the differences between zinc and titanium white! I will admit to grabbing “whatever” and not paying much attention to which white I’m using. For a very long time, my only gouache was white and used for highlighting watercolour (or mixing with watercolour); that eventually encouraged me to buy some tubes of coloured gouache.
I haven't tried it yet but loved your painting and am really excited to go for it! Thank you very much for this video :)
Great video as always. Another white gouache with a very shiny finish is Pebeo Studio Gouache (I have "permanent white"), so be advised whoever thinks to buy a huge tube thinking of saving a bit of money.
Thanks so much for sharing this way of using a combination of watercolours and white gouache to achieve a gouache pastel look effect 🥺 The greys in your demo's are amazing! Really liked how the painting turned out.
You make nice colorful greys! For mixing I use the Titanium white from the Schmincke Academy line, which is affordable, comes in large tubes, has a fluid consistency, and is not so aggressive and shiny as others. Thank you for your content!
👍🏻 I do this too. I find Schmincke Akademie Gouache truly affordable and of excellent quality. I never see any sheen on it.
Where do you get it?
@@margaretspringer9197 I usually by it at boesner but at least in Europe you should get it in any art store
@@margaretspringer9197 Depends on where you live. In Europe, Gerstaecker, Boesner, Jackson's and others. I dont know in the USA, though.
I love this technique the I use it all the time! I mainly use it for my travel kits or to use up my student grade watercolors. I’m so happy you did a video on this since it’s not really known that you can use them like that.
You can also get really cool effects with granulation sometimes. I love using these two together.
This was actually really helpful. I am a watercolor artist. I struggle a lot working with thicker more opaque paints. Maybe I should try more baby steps.❤
Baby steps and lots of experimenting!
Great video! I mostly use M. Graham’s white titanium gouache because 1. It comes in large tubes (making it more affordable) and 2. It rewets easier than others. I don’t like Winsor and Newton’s titanium white gouache because it dries hard as a rock (even with a stay wet palette) and so I end up wasting some because of that. Daniel Smith’s titanium white gouache is fantastic, but it doesn’t come in larger tubes. Since I use a lot of titanium white, I need something more cost effective.
Side note: Daniel Smith gouache is absolutely amazing! It’s a joy to work with. It’s expensive, but superbly vibrant and fun to use. I can’t wait for them to release more gouache colors!
I'm also loving Daniel Smith gouache and agree with M. Graham white for the price. Their titanium white is a bit more yellow than other brands, but I use zinc more often anyway. Did you see the 52(?) new Daniel Smith gouache colors that released a week or two ago? So exciting!
oh thanks for that tip, I will definitely try M grahams now
Very, very interesting. I just bought a DaVinci primary gouache set and I began to wonder what would happen if I mixed my watercolor paint with white gouache; then I discovered your post. It is very helpful. Thanks!
I started off with gouache like this when I was at school-one tube of W&N zinc white plus ordinary watercolours. These days now I have money I tend to use gouache more and mainly stick to permanent white (easier to find the large tubes where I am). One thing that I found makes it easier working with water colour plus white is to use a palette with more opaque water colour pigments such as cadmium reds and yellows (or their modern less toxic equivalents)
i recently found your youtube channel and i'm so happy! i really appreciate all the reviews and experiments that you do, it's extremely helpful to know your thoughts and opinions on different techniques and brands of art supplies. also, thank you for staying mindful about your location and access to different materials, not all content creators acknowledge that their viewers may come from all over the world.
The Winsor Newton Zinc White (though it can be bought individually) usually comes in their Designer Gouache set. Designer Gouache is something from the 1920's where magazine artists (because of technological limitations) wanted a gouache with more White added into the pigment (primaries and secondary colors) for the sake of balancing out colors from the printing processes of that time. This does not work so well today. So keep this in mind when you're considering WN Designer Gouache...you can just buy the Zinc White separately.
What a beautiful painting!!
Very interesting video, as well as the ‘techie’ stuff on how we can visualize our gouache desaturated paintings beforehand by playing around with the photo settings ~ thx for sharing…
I haven’t used gouache before, but have been fascinated watching yours & other RUclipsrs paint with it & thus would love to try it one day! Actually ~ I think I did buy a tube of white gouache some time ago to do just what you suggested doing here in this video… thanks for all your tips! Your seascape is beautiful 🙌🏼🌊💚🩵🩶
I bought some zinc white M. Graham gouache many years ago just to use as accents in watercolor. Thinking the reason it wasn't adding crisp white like other people was because they must be using a different brand, I got some Holbein Acryla. Well...that was definitely more opaque, but I discovered it is not rewettable the hard way, lol. After educating myself more through several more years of watercolor, I was finally inspired to try gouache. A tip I picked up from some other artists is to use zinc white for mixing where you want to keep stronger color saturation but just increase the opacity, and I have enjoyed Schmincke zinc white for this when using Schmincke gouache. M. Graham also still works well, despite my tube being several years old, so I've used them pretty interchangeably but will be buying more M. Graham when I run out.
I rarely use titanium white other than when I need some really opaque and/or light highlight areas, so a single tube of it will probably last forever! I have Schmincke right now but will probably replace with Daniel Smith since M. Graham's has a yellower tint than others (though in your swatches it doesn't look as yellow as other swatches I've seen) and Daniel Smith looks like it doesn't have the shine Schmincke's has. I also have a tube of Holbein that came in a 5 tube set and it works okay but dries out so fast while I'm painting if I don't put it on a damp paper towel.
This was so instructive! I have zinc white but never use it because the only time I use gouache is when I'm adding a white highlight to my watercolor, and the titanium is stronger for that. Now that I understand the difference, I'm really excited to try mixing with the zinc. The ability to layer like this is enticing. Also I love what the under painting did for this piece as it is different than just an initial wash of light tones in the actual subject, another thing I hadn't considered trying with watercolor before. Thank you!
Gorgeous! I love how the underpainting really takes it up a notch! Wow!
This was really fun, i love all your gouache experiments... I fell in love with using buff titanium watercolor mixed into other colors, I ended up making a gouache version of it to also mix with watercolors, it's amazingly fun and interesting!
I love Buff titanium! I have it in both watercolor and gouache
I started out with adding Permanent/Titanium White Gouache to my Watercolors for highlights & for making pastels of my colors. Then I realized that I needed to us the Zinc White for mixing pastels & the Titanium White for just highlights. I did try full tubes of gouache eventually & enjoy it but because the gouache paint is a bit more expensive than watercolors I don’t use it as much. Gouache & watercolors are my favorites for mediums to use though. Thanks for sharing this wonderful video!
Just keep experimenting!
Brilliant idea! Loving your techniques.
Thank you so much, this was so inspiring. ❤️
Thank you Sarah. Great information on the differences in the whites. Love the painting.
This video was super helpful, as always. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and the beauty of Scotland. Oh, and congratulations on your visa!🎉
Great painting and information
Oh thanks SO MUCH for this video! You just opened a new world of possibilities for me! ❤
Fantastic colour combination’s 🥰
Great video....love the effects of mixing watercolor with gouache and the effects og the underpsinting.
Such a beautiful painting and very helpful swatching. Thank you!
This is really lovely. I want to give this a try.
I just found you and subscribed. I love your style and coloring and this guide is very helpful. I learned some things from this video. The beach painting is gorgeous!
I love to do spontaneous watercoloring,so much fun,awesome video.❤
Really helpful, thanks Sarah!x
Thanks so much, Sarah, this is great info to have!And I LOVE your little painting!!! 💜
Thank you!
I love using gouache and watercolors together. I have a mix of both in my palettes, love the studies/artworks you did for this series of studies.
Another fascinating and helpful video. I’ve never tried mixing watercolour and white gouache but I’m keen to give it a try as I’d been waiting to try gouache but was hesitant to invest without know if I enjoyed it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I am so glad I watched this. It wasn't what I excepted. It was so much more. Love the idea of mixing watercolor and gouache. The underpainting was fabulous. And I like the painting tips about light and color temperature use from a graphic design program. Thanks for brightening up my morning. Love your "grey period" of art. Can't wait to see more. Have fun in Scotland.
I really like how you experiment with grays here because it unlocks a whole range of values and it also helps to make more contrast if a more saturated color was added near the grays. Your videos are my go-to for learning more about gouache. 😁
This was very interesting ❤
You visit the most beautiful locations
Love the moody greyed palette results. Just lovely. Making me want to experiment with same. Thx Sarah. As always you mine out such valuable topics to explore. -Lue
Hi, Sarah! Great video! Very helpful for a watercolor artist, especially. I am waiting with great anticipation for my first gouache kit to arrive. Hope your holidays are merry and bright! Much love ❤️ ❤❤
Excellent! Happy holidays :)
Hey Sarah, very informative video! Zinc white gouache w/ watercolors is so underrated, I’m glad you showed how useful it can be for those starting with gouache painting.
< for coffee! Thank you for everything you do! Love this comparison. 💖
That's really sweet of you, thank you! (and thanks for feeding my coffee addiction 🤣 )
Ooh, that explains something that happened to me on two paintings last year. For one, I definitely used Titanium White, as per usual, and the other time I picked the Zinc (I couldn't find the tube of Titanium). The results were weird, and I couldn't understand why I barely needed any colour added. So glad you cleared that up! Hahaha. Thank you.
I've only used Shminke white and was concerned about the shinyness. Good to see it's not consistent on other brands. I use it with the Caran D'ache pan set because the white is really bad in that. So it's a bit like watercolour and professional white. Great to see this video. It's like an approval on my beginners technique.
Thanks Sarah, I tried gouache a few yesterday ago but went back to watercolour as I wasn't too sure of the matt finish, but yours looks great so I will maybe try again.
Great job Sarah explaining the different whites and using it with watercolor…extremely helpful! And I love the idea of just carrying a white tube of Gouache with your travel watercolors, excellent idea. Thanks so much for the video and beautiful job on the painting!❤
Glad it was helpful!
I love this! Just Ike you I love to paint way to vibrant. Must try this! Ty Sarah!
Its so beautiful❤... I feel like I have leaned a lot an have more possibilities to work with the colors I have. Just amazing !
Thank you so much!
It's really interesting that you've mentioned the perks of using zinc white! I bought a big one as a mixing white a few years back and was immediately disappointed because it was way more transparent than I expected. I only use titanium white now but maybe I should give it another try again 🥰
Yea that's the main reason I use titanium white in most of my gouache paintings.
I love the subtle more neutral colours! But I’m also wondering about how the bright blue tape surrounds might affect our colour perception- have you ever done a comparison between using blue vs beige or yellow tape to paint the same scene?
This was very interesting. I’m just getting into gouache after doing watercolor for quite awhile. It’s quite overwhelming, but I’m going to give this a try. Of course, I’m nowhere near the artist you are, but you inspire me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Super useful. I would have loved to see how this differs from using only gouache to understand the pros and cons of watercolor + gouache vs. just gouache. But of course, I could try to do this myself. I always learn so much when watching your video. I have done so many gouache paintings recently after watching you. My watercolors have been neglected :). Thank you!
I like your fibrant contrasty paintings but I understand you need to experiment! Using zinc white this way gives interesting possibilities. Thanks again for your quality video❤
Oh my! Such an interesting and worthwhile technique to learn! As you say, it's not well known by "trad" water-colorists. I've just used gouache occasionally for highlights. But I'll be trying this "watercolor conversion" method very soon. Thanks for the excellent and beautiful demonstration!
Awesome comparison, Sarah! Thanks (gorgeous painting too!)
Thank you Lindsay!
Excellent demo. I do mix watercolors and white gouache and vice versa. Can't resist. I would love to see more short deep-dives with whites.
I've had M. Graham gouache in my watercolor palette for years! Im so glad to see more talk about using it with watercolor. Its basically just opaque watercolor so it makes sense.
I also love your talk of utilizing gray in landscape. I really need to spend some time focusing on that- as someone who loves bright saturated colors hah
The addition of white gouache to watercolor resulted in a stunning seascape. It exudes tranquility and magic! 🌊🎨
I tried with a white tube of gouache with watercolor but honestly gouache just isn't for me. but I do use titanium white for highlights in my watercolors. By the way love the video keep up the great work👍👍
I've had trouble with gouache too. What specifically about it makes you say it isn't for you? I can't seem to get my brushwork to not look streaky, and I can't get clean edges.
Sorry it took so long for me to respond. I don't like it because it's too opaque for my liking. I mostly work with watercolor, so I am very used to the transparency of it. But then again, I only used white gouache mixed with watercolor, I might change my mind if I try with just gouache.
Helpful, Thanks
This was wonderful, I have been working to understand gauch and watercolor together! Now I will experiment and hopefully be able to use it!🙋♀️Thanks. Karen Dirmish, learner
i’ll definitely try the white gouache with my watercolor. Beautiful painting
Thank you for this inspiring and helpfull video ❤. And I‘ve experienced the same shine with the Schmincke Horadam Titanium White (and didn‘t have an explanation so far for the shine in my paintings when using a lot of white 😅). Thanks again for sharing!
I must try this method of white gouache ( I like holbein) and watercolors 🎉🎉🎉 great video!
This video provides a great service! I know about the difference between Zinc White and Titanium White only because of my background in oil painting (where Zinc White has somewhat fallen out of favor because it becomes brittle, especially on its own.) I don’t think it was even covered in any of my classes - like a commenter here, I remember being disappointed by Zinc White (in oil) the first time I tried it, not understanding the difference in pigments. It has stood out to me for a long time that most RUclips artists (across painting mediums) don’t know the difference and frequently don’t even know of the existence of Zinc White. It’s interesting because some of these people have picked up on the existence of pigment codes for some other colors. I constantly see people teaching that adding white will make your mixture “chalky,” and to add any other color to change the value, but never use white. At the same time I see some people who are very heavy-handed with the Titanium White and DO end up with chalky mixtures and would benefit from trying out Zinc White. (As an aside, I didn’t notice if you mentioned the name “Chinese White,” which typically refers to Zinc White. You very well might have and I might have missed it.) I have a pan of dried Schmincke Titanium White in my watercolor palette, but don’t love it dried. I did actually grab a tube of “Chinese White” from a cheap watercolor pan set and use it with my artist grade watercolors (in sketches.) I think it’s even weaker than an artist grade Zinc White, which I kind of like.
Glad you enjoyed it! I guess it just depends on the specific use the artist needs. There are so many varieties and ways to use different pigments.
The color saturation adjustment tip is really helpful thanks! I tend to use white gouache in watercolor mainly for bright highlights and waves in water but sometimes I also like mixing white in sky gradients, it can give a "softer" feeiling I think :)
This video is incredibly good and informative! Wow! 💐 This is exactly my topic at the moment, using my watercolors as gouache. The Horadam Titanium White makes it opaque without color shift. This is an incredibly great brand. I don't like watercolor because you can't fix mistakes, it puts pressure on me. And I want to set my highlights in the end. I also love the creaminess, watercolours are not satisfaying me any more after trying Gouache 😀
Very beautiful!❤ I paint with Gouache quite a bit.
Agree about the greys.
Thank you, Sarah, for this educational, informative, interesting and very helpful video .
I am quite new on my art journey and coincidentally had recently been wondering about this very topic of possibly adding zinc white gouache to water colour paints and what would happen.
Yes, of course I realise I should actually experiment and try it for myself……and so this video was absolutely perfect.
I also loved the part where you gave a little demo from the Adobe Photoshop programme….wow ….amazing features !
Last year I started playing with gel prints and one of the first things I did was research and learn about the differences between the zinc white and titanium white which was an important factor because of the very different opacities.
I quickly learned that if I used the titanium white as the last layer to pull the print from the gel plate…..all of the previous layers on the plate were obliterated ! 🤭🤭🤭😩😩😳😳🤪🤪
That was a huge lesson in learning about the transparency of the zinc white as opposed to the opaqueness of the titanium white !
I'm mostly a gouache user lately, and I don't have masking fluid, but I like the mixture of watercolor and white gouache.
Great video! Thanks for this! I was actually just wondering about mixing white gouache and watercolour..
So many different types of whites! When I was at the art store i remembered i was quickly running out of my Holbein white gouache (which worked great as I bought just primaries and white) , but forgot which type of 'white' I had before. Ended up getting the permanent white by Winsor & Newton. Haven't had a chance to test it out and see since I still have a bit left of the other one. I do prefer opaque whites though, so I think i picked what I need.
Is this a watercolor set that you just mix with gouache so you don’t have to worry about the gouache contaminating the watercolor or do you give the watercolor a pretty heavy cleaning before the next use of just watercolor? Thanks for the white gouache information.
I Just clean it before the next use
Lovely!
thank you for sharing
I started with W&N permanent white mixed with watercolours inflenced by Nathan Fowkes, then moved on to using only gouache.I stuck with W&N only because its the one I can get in 37ml tubes although I have gone through a tube of DS which I was happy with...good to see other swatches thanks
You just reminded me that Nathan does that. I wish I had remembered I would have shown his work as an example because it is incredible
I think you are a true artist whether you paint with vibrant colors or explore the greys. Meaningful and subtle results either way. I’ve never seen anyone else on RUclips cover these topics in the same way. Makes me want to try out what you showed. 😊 Thank you for the thought-inspiring video!
Thanks! I live the oastel colours with watercolours. I use Schmincke Akademie Gouache, as they are not expensive (4.99€ for 60ml 😮) As a beginner Indint want them to feel precious so I can play. The titanium white is not shiny in that brand. Thanks for te testing and the beautiful picture, i am amazed how the landscape appeared a little bit after every brush stroke.
Thanks!
Thank you very much :)
When a piece compels me to purchase, or is one I’ve sold, it is usually “vibrant”. The few workshops I’ve attended in the last many years have been pushing gray and muted, to the point of a paynes gray wash over top. Not sure if people want moody or inspiring. Think I’m going to make what makes me look forward to the process…and that’s not muted.
I use W&N titanium white gouache. I mostly only use it to add to watercolour when working on grey or other toned paper (like Strathmore toned) as I like the look of that.
Will this make the colors more pastel? Is there a way to mix the colors more opaque while also keeping it's value?
I’m only just trying this technique with watercolour so what white gouache to get is a puzzle! Thank you. I think I only have access to a few brands in Australia where I am W&N, Daniel Smith, Daler Rowney and Art Spectrum an Australian brand which is really good, have you tried it Sarah?
When you use gouache with your watercolors, are you concerned about contaminating your watercolor palette with the gouache, or do you use a separate watercolor palette when mixing with gouache? How about brushes - are you using watercolor or gouache brushes? Thanks so much for your wonderful tutorials!
I started using water colors with gouache because there are two colors I love that I couldn't get in gouache, Payne's Gray and Potter's Pink. That opened alot of possiblities when started throwing those in my box with my gouache. I tend to only use Zinc in color mixing but pretty much stick to titanium.
You just read my mind as I was wondering JUST yesterday about the difference between the two whites (and been using titanium white for years but bought zinc white yesterday out of curiosity). Random but isn't this the technique used by Nathan Fowkes? He always has such vibrant and luminous colours mixing watercolours with white gouache (but when I try it, oh man, the mess LOL)
Yes someone else just reminded me that Nathan does that. And his work is INCREDIBLE!
You have made me want to move to Scotland. I have used this technique many times with Winsor & Newton Permanent (PW6). I still don't know what I think. I like it but maybe prefer all gouache or all water color, rather than mixing the two. More sketch book work needs to happen.
Now if only we could convince the purists of watercolors that chinese white is indeed a very useful color in a beginner set, the revolution for a stress free society would be complete! 🤣🤣🤣
I used to HATE getting a pan of white in my watercolor palette, it felt like such a waste to me 🤣 not from a "purist" mindset, just from a color-cost perspective. But I agree, I find the purist mindset to be such a turnoff and I think it has wrongly discouraged to many artists from experimenting
@@SarahBurnsStudio I thought so too, I just found it useless. And then, quite recently, I was making a mixing sheet so I had to check it and compare it, and it turned out that it's so much easier to get a nice even pastel coverage than trying to get a very low pigment load on the page. It looks and acts smoother. That was my impression at least.
i had the same issue with the horadam white which lead to me needing a replacement. i switched then to the winsor and newton which was a bit better as you said and they shine too and i did not tried other brands after that. which one do you use now?
My tubes of WN are all ‘permanent” white which I hope is used interchangeably with “titanium”? In any event, tinting with watercolour does remove a lot of the stress from learning gouache as I find I’m wasting gigantic piles of gouache in the inevitable push pull that is inherent to finding the colour I want in gouache. I love your fearlessness Sarah (and of course the dry brush at the end) _ thanks for this great video! 🇨🇦
I got a huge tube of MGraham zinc white when I first started painting 6 years ago. It’s gonna last forevvvver.
I have a question? I watch your videos lately, because Im totally new in this media...this pallet you have for storage your gouche, it's good? Mantain the humidity of the colors?
You've read my mind girl! I just purchased my first gouache whites and I was curious what's the difference between zinc and titanium. 🤭
Glad I could help!
I did a gouache painting last night w/ the schmincke horadam white, it also had a glossy finish after drying. The paint arrived last week, so I believe it is just the brand and not the age of it, FYI
It seems to be true, based on other comments
Great video and class!!! When do you use gouache can you use a less expensive paper like just pulp paper? Thanks for your help! Peace!
Yep definitely
My schmincke titanium white gouache tube shines aswell! So weird since the others I have from the same brand do not 😵 I tried one from W&N but it smelled sooo bad, like a humid basement, and it dried gray (must've been a bad tube). My favourite is the Holbein; performs very well but also is easy to find where I am, and it's affordable.
I think yes sometimes a tube can go bad, it depends how it's stored. It's unfortunate to get one of those! I too like the Holbein (it was the first kind I tried back in the day)
Was thinking about trying this.. I have 75 tubes of water colour and limited gouache.
Would you be able to use white watercolor in the same way as the white gouache? Or is there a difference in performance with inducing opacity?
Hi! I am mostly a watercolor artist, and I find acrylic and oil paint a bit inconvenient to use in my current living situation. so I am really getting into gouache… I’ve been trying to find an economical white to mix with my student grade or professional grade that will work across the board. I do have Holbein and use that with Holbein same with M Graham… Because I don’t want to compromise those when doing professional work. mostly just for consistency sake… But I was wondering what you thought of or had tried da Vinci gouache? It comes in a 5 ounce tube for like 19 bucks :-)
No I have not tried Davinci yet
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