Things I like about Emulation: Graphics upscaling for 3D games. The ability to use any controller and to configure it any way you want. Save states! Things I dislike about Emulation: Not all games work, or work 100% You need a beefy system to even run some games at a playable speed, and even more to run them with upscaled graphics.
You couldn’t have chosen a worse way to display the signal from a real ps2. You need an actual component cable and an analog to digital converter/scaler.
the darker image you get on the real PS2 is a common thing with cheap amazon/aliexpress HDMI conversion cables (one of which is the one you use). Using a better solution (e.g. one of the cheaper RetroTink 2X ones or a GBS control scaler) will give you an image closer to the emulated version -at least regarding color depth and brightness.
@@danpatrick7176even realistic game like Prime and Eternal Darkness look way better. RE 4 is legions better on Gamecube than the less than impressive ps2 port
Just FYI aspect ratio is messed up in all of these. All of these are 4:3 games stretched to 16:9 which makes them look way off. Definitely takes away from the results.
Thats one huge plus for emulation,the upscaling feature for systems with 3D ganes.Especially 5th gen consoles like PS1,Saturn and N64. Some of those games were blocly pixellated messes so upscaling those games turns them into ganes you can actual see properly whats going on lol
It’s shocked me tbh just how poor the actual ps2 looks. I got it looking better on the tv with contrast, colour balance etc but still looked Jurassic in comparison. I’d love to try an actual Saturn btw
Tried v39 stable yet? Just updated my PC build A few things I found. PCSX2 stand alone bezels arent showing anymore, not a major thing but still. Im using external speakers via usb out to the audio jack of a monitor and for PPSSPP the sound reverts to the internal speaker on my HP mini PC i7 6700T All other emulators and video snaps are fine. As is Libretro PPSSPP but not the stand alone emulator option. Also, I have a bunch of PC games added and so far a few wont display properly, has these green wavey lines over it. As its using 'the glorious eggroll custom runner' for wine now maybe thats the issue Xenia, BigPemu, FPinball and model 2 emu use this method now as well. Or something like that.
I tried an earlier beta and it was good. I’ll download the stable and give it a whirl. Thanks for the heads up. Btw came across a GameCube issue recently. Was regularly crashing on game exit…. Turned out I had dual core mode on and switching it back to Auto cured the issue… weird.
@@HumanoidMachines Was always wondering whether to use dual core mode or turn that off. Depends on ya PC and what gamecube games you are running I guess. But as a whole, as a system setting I think maybe turning it off is better, and if you have issues with a game, try dual core on a per game basis.
I had a menu slowdown with 38 that put me off it although I sussed out that issue. Also the 38 bios pack is huge at 3.5Gb. Performance is similar so I’m sticking with 37 until 39 appears. Btw, 39 beta performed a bit better with ps2
The PCSX2 may improve graphics and runs the game smooth but unfortunately some PS2 games can't run well such as Tekken Tag Tournament because the gameplay gets choppy while Tekken 4 and 5 do runs okay
I find that Driver is difficult to emulate and Flatout 2 can easily drop frames when upscaling. Not had a problem with Tekken tag, looks and runs superb like all Tekken. Depends what chip you’re using
No Retrotink 4k? 😜 In all seriousness great comparison, it's kind of amazing how much the ps2 did visually, and how it cleans up with emulation. I keep looking for a device to be my emulation PC, your little PC is super cool.
Your real hardware footage is too dark, please calibrate for proper brightness, contrast, and saturation levels. The emulator side should be done running at native resolution and preferable in software mode, if not, some games may present graphical glitches and at least for me is way more interesting to watch how accurate the emulator is vs the original hardware.
ps2 emualtor has came a long way the devs of the emulators been working on it for a good few years now pc ps2 emualtion is pretty good like realy good and realy optomized also it runs realy great even with 7th 8th 9th gen intel chips and they are pretty cheap now a days i love my old school ps2 console but ps2 emulator is realy nice visuals and its hard to go back to just old ps2 hardware hehe
Things I like about Emulation: Graphics upscaling for 3D games. The ability to use any controller and to configure it any way you want. Save states!
Things I dislike about Emulation: Not all games work, or work 100% You need a beefy system to even run some games at a playable speed, and even more to run them with upscaled graphics.
Upscaling via emulation basically allows you to play the games for the first time all over again. Amazing.
Superb!
let's you play them as you remember them instead of the blurry mess they were
Only work on 3D models. 2D games and stuff like HUD and UI still look bad.
@@GraveUypo They don´t look like that from my original Ps2 pluged with component cables to any of 2 lcd tvs.
Just incredible.
With a ps2 like that, who needs a ps3?
Great great job, Man!
Thank you 🙏
Merci for these comparisons ^^ And concerning Xbox and Xbox 360 emulators, are there improvements since your last video from one year ago ?
I think original Xbox has slightly improved with the new batocera. 360 is hard to tell because the systems I’ve run it on have all struggled.
You couldn’t have chosen a worse way to display the signal from a real ps2. You need an actual component cable and an analog to digital converter/scaler.
A lot of folks out there use these cables. If I keep the machine long enough I’ll find one of those and make another video
the darker image you get on the real PS2 is a common thing with cheap amazon/aliexpress HDMI conversion cables (one of which is the one you use). Using a better solution (e.g. one of the cheaper RetroTink 2X ones or a GBS control scaler) will give you an image closer to the emulated version -at least regarding color depth and brightness.
I have a AV to HDMi upscaler box on order for a future video.
That PES upscale was crazy nice
I would probably use a hardware HDMI mod and not just a cheap cable
That’s my next video on it’s way. It’s a much better experience
PS2 games don't hold up the same way Gamecube games do upscaled.
I imagine that you simply mean that nintendos art direction holds up better than ps2 games that were going for realism. I agree with that
WRONG! WRONG! I DISAGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT!
Yeah the GameCube good fir the graphics the PS2 good for lighting so it's so hard to say
I absolutely agree. Even the more realistic games like Metroid Primes and Eternal Darkness look way better
@@danpatrick7176even realistic game like Prime and Eternal Darkness look way better. RE 4 is legions better on Gamecube than the less than impressive ps2 port
Just FYI aspect ratio is messed up in all of these. All of these are 4:3 games stretched to 16:9 which makes them look way off. Definitely takes away from the results.
This 9500t is great, but for same price ( 150€) we can buy a new n100, they are close, no?
I’d say the 9500t is the more powerful option. I’ve not had chance to look at the n100 but o know it’s more of a laptop cpu.
Of course! Thx
Thats one huge plus for emulation,the upscaling feature for systems with 3D ganes.Especially 5th gen consoles like PS1,Saturn and N64.
Some of those games were blocly pixellated messes so upscaling those games turns them into ganes you can actual see properly whats going on lol
It’s shocked me tbh just how poor the actual ps2 looks. I got it looking better on the tv with contrast, colour balance etc but still looked Jurassic in comparison. I’d love to try an actual Saturn btw
@@HumanoidMachines I remember Saturn games looking terrible to me even back in the day.
@@claudiodiaz9752 it’s not the nicest looking system even on emulation but some Saturn game’s are surprisingly good looking.
Tried v39 stable yet?
Just updated my PC build
A few things I found.
PCSX2 stand alone bezels arent showing anymore, not a major thing but still.
Im using external speakers via usb out to the audio jack of a monitor and for PPSSPP the sound reverts to the internal speaker on my HP mini PC i7 6700T
All other emulators and video snaps are fine.
As is Libretro PPSSPP but not the stand alone emulator option.
Also, I have a bunch of PC games added and so far a few wont display properly, has these green wavey lines over it.
As its using 'the glorious eggroll custom runner' for wine now maybe thats the issue
Xenia, BigPemu, FPinball and model 2 emu use this method now as well.
Or something like that.
Ok
I was able to fix the ppsspp audio issue
Went into emulator settings, audio and unticked use new audio devices option.
I tried an earlier beta and it was good. I’ll download the stable and give it a whirl. Thanks for the heads up.
Btw came across a GameCube issue recently. Was regularly crashing on game exit…. Turned out I had dual core mode on and switching it back to Auto cured the issue… weird.
@@HumanoidMachines
Was always wondering whether to use dual core mode or turn that off.
Depends on ya PC and what gamecube games you are running I guess.
But as a whole, as a system setting I think maybe turning it off is better, and if you have issues with a game, try dual core on a per game basis.
@@fonzitheman I use dual core on Star Wars battlefront 2 and it’s ok
@@HumanoidMachines
Are ps2 bezels working for you on pcsx2 stand alone?
Any pros to v37 to v38?
I had a menu slowdown with 38 that put me off it although I sussed out that issue. Also the 38 bios pack is huge at 3.5Gb. Performance is similar so I’m sticking with 37 until 39 appears. Btw, 39 beta performed a bit better with ps2
I'll just wait till 39 as well thanks!
The PCSX2 may improve graphics and runs the game smooth but unfortunately some PS2 games can't run well such as Tekken Tag Tournament because the gameplay gets choppy while Tekken 4 and 5 do runs okay
I find that Driver is difficult to emulate and Flatout 2 can easily drop frames when upscaling. Not had a problem with Tekken tag, looks and runs superb like all Tekken. Depends what chip you’re using
@@HumanoidMachines Yeah, I play Tekken tag no problem in mine.
No Retrotink 4k? 😜 In all seriousness great comparison, it's kind of amazing how much the ps2 did visually, and how it cleans up with emulation.
I keep looking for a device to be my emulation PC, your little PC is super cool.
Your real hardware footage is too dark, please calibrate for proper brightness, contrast, and saturation levels.
The emulator side should be done running at native resolution and preferable in software mode, if not, some games may present graphical glitches and at least for me is way more interesting to watch how accurate the emulator is vs the original hardware.
try to keeep the same maps and areas for us to be able to make a good graphical comparison, same maps, same stadiums etc...
ps2 emualtor has came a long way
the devs of the emulators been working on it for a good few years now
pc ps2 emualtion is pretty good like realy good and realy optomized also it runs realy great even with 7th 8th 9th gen intel chips
and they are pretty cheap now a days
i love my old school ps2 console but
ps2 emulator is realy nice visuals and its hard to go back to just old ps2 hardware hehe
Even 4th gen i3’s are playing ps2 at standard which is way better looking than original 😊
@@HumanoidMachines thats awsome :D didnt know that low even 4th gen can play ps2 emulator super kool :D
@@princevinny0073 I build on the i3-4160t and i3-4150t and they play most ps2 pretty well at standard resolution
emulated PS2 could pass off as early PS3 graphics
In some cases I think it outshines a few ps3 games. Most ps2 upscaled look great, some look amazing.
That PlayStation looking like a PS6 🫦
Nice video