As Willard was told on the beach scene in Apocalypse Now..."Don't look at the camera!" Thanks for the memories, I learnt to drive in a Mack B61 Thermodyne when I was 14 years old.
I always loved these two stick Mack’s even with the Quadruplex transmission. I had extensions on mine and had them curved. Had a flame from the stack and the smoke was blowing black as coal.
My dad drove many a b model and r model with twin clubs. From dual,tri and quad boxes. I used to watch him split the sticks reaching thru the steering wheel. That was 40 plus years ago. Dad drove for 50 years. Had between 5 and 6 million miles under his belt!
I've driven a twin stick 4 times and it looks like you can do it in your sleep. you sir are a true trucker like my dad. hope you can teach some of us young guns your secrets
Damn I could watch and listen to this all day !! There is no doubt that the older generation of truckers are extremely important to us younger generation of drivers, and I only wish I could operate one of these !
In our new "PC" society, Mack would have to require two drivers to operate them twin sticks. But Barry has the talent to show how it ain't necessary. Great job, and thanks for posting. "Smile, you're on Candid camera" :)
brings back memories, learnt to drive trucks on the farm in old B61, this a dying art and with fleet owners going auto even the road ranger is a dying art. I tips my hat to you Barry
I spent at least 10 to 15 years of my 60 years of driving truck shifting duplex triplex and quadruplex transmission. And of course we never used a clutch!
The reason I looked at the phone was the camera was new to me. And I did not know that I was doing a selfie I saw my face on there but I wanted it only to hear the sound of the Mac. I had the camera that phone sitting between a stuff Bulldogs lag sitting on the seat.
nice demo Mr. Grim Thanks for your sharing your expertise and long time experience. I am also glad that I had the chance to learn on one these old gals.
Barry Grim thanks for showing us how it's done, I've never driven one myself, but after watching this a couple times I think i got the gist.. that old girl sounds awesome too..
As much as everyone says there shifts are like butter it ain't old school if you don't clunk a few gears. Love it hopefully plan to twin stick a pickup after I drove a needle nose peterbilt with a 4x4
viewers , you can look at the ceiling to see shift pattern . i drove twin stick gas burners when i started in the 80s (main trans synchronized , aux not) , left arm against , never thru the wheel . never drove twins w/both unsynchroed though . every other vid i've seen on the tube , they just change one at a time . respect to b g for showing how it's done .
When you drive more than 100,000 miles a year you learn to do what works the best. it’s been my experience shifting one at a time you lose too much road speed. These Macks did not have a lot of horsepower.
@@barrygrim4661 yeah , that's what we had to do . 10 wheelers , 534 gasburners , 56k loaded , hilly country . we'd have come nearly to a stop if we hadn't . thanks again .
It looks as if he's got an extension on the range shift lever making it a little easier to access when split shifting. Later model twin stick Macks had the range stick closest to the driver.
I had the pleasure of driving only one twin stick Mack in my life time, but I'm glad I was able to do that. It was a 56 B61 single screw tractor with a 9-speed trans. The range stick was away from the driver and you didn't split 5th gear. I'd love to drive another one sometime, but don't know if I'll get the chance. I'd probably be a bit rusty as it's about 40 years since I've driven one, but I'm sure I could get down the road with it. I knew a guy with a 68 R model tractor with a twin stick. The range stick on that model was closest to the driver. In our 56 both levers were perfectly straight and the same height.
You can shift each box one at a time. It just takes longer. In the days when a 200 Cummins was king there was no need to get excited. Getting there was going to take awhile.
I haven't twin sticked yet, and it's been almost 20 years. Every time I see drivers do twin boxes I give credit where credit is due. But give me an Allison. Once you drive a truck with one you never go back.
When I was young and used to drive a triplex when I was learning And before I learned how to bump them back I'd get both sticks a neutral and used to say I'm in double nothing and used to have to start over
wow, that is some of the most smooth 2 stick shifting I ever heard....hardly any grinding, just merely a few clicks. Show em' how they do it downtown.....
Looking at the placard above the windscreen it has the Duplex transmission, main on left, compound on the right, which is the opposite of the Quadruplex 'box. Pity the camera wasn't set lower down so we could see more of the action.
@@barrygrim4661. I've never driven a quad box, but had lots of time in an R model w/- triplex 50 years ago. Many drivers fitted the longer and thinner CAT handles to the sticks, but I left mine as they were but had the sticks bent in closer together. to facilitate an easy one handed shift from third direct to fourth low. Remembering we sit on the other side of the cab in Australia. Procedure was : Left hand on top of both sticks - fingers bring main stick into neutral and across the gate - thumb brings compound to neutral - push main into fourth position - increase revs slightly and put pressure on compound which will easily slip into gear. This method was a lot more tidy looking than what our mate in the B model was doing and could also be used in a LHD truck.
@@gsd4me00 Sometimes when I shifted from third overdrive to fourth direct I would take my little finger and grab the auxiliary and shift them both at the same time with one hand.
I watch this video over and over and over I just dig this guygetting into the road getting into the truck into the machine shifting this thing like nothing you very really hear a grinder amidst year nothing the sound of that truck
Hey No Bustin Balls on Barry. Face it he was a distracted driver 50 years ago between the socks the coffee cup the 2 radios and more maps than the Local library. You Dont tell this guy anything unless your 95 years old
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF THIS TYPE OF TRANSMISSION WOULD BE BETTER THAT A REGULAR 13spd FOR OVERWEIGHT LOADS?????? Thinking about adapting one to a 12.7 60 series
Has the transmission on the been modefied. Because their were 9 gears in the main and the auxillary was towards the passenger side instead of the drivers side.
BOB REIMER DROVE B MODRL MACK TRUCKS AND TALKS ABOUT SHIFTING BY MEANS OF THE STEERING WHEEL. THIS DRIVER SHOWS US HOW ITS DONE. TKS MUCH. CHECK OUT BOB, S SONG WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE B MODEL MACK by THE COUNTRY TIGERS.
i drove twin stick gas burners , this is similar (i think) . start off with main trans in 1st/auxiliary in low , wind up , shift aux to high , wind up , shift main to 2nd/aux to low , wind up , shift aux to high , etc . see ceiling of his truck to see location/shift patterns of both trans .
@@andrewnorris1514 Not in this video, all i see is an old fart pissing about changing gears. nothing great about that, if he had done that as the manufacturer intended then he may well have been good, but that's all.
As Willard was told on the beach scene in Apocalypse Now..."Don't look at the camera!" Thanks for the memories, I learnt to drive in a Mack B61 Thermodyne when I was 14 years old.
I always loved these two stick Mack’s even with the Quadruplex transmission. I had extensions on mine and had them curved. Had a flame from the stack and the smoke was blowing black as coal.
My dad drove many a b model and r model with twin clubs. From dual,tri and quad boxes. I used to watch him split the sticks reaching thru the steering wheel. That was 40 plus years ago. Dad drove for 50 years. Had between 5 and 6 million miles under his belt!
I've driven a twin stick 4 times and it looks like you can do it in your sleep. you sir are a true trucker like my dad. hope you can teach some of us young guns your secrets
First truck I ever drove, if you can twin you can drive anything!This man's showing you how it's done! Macks!
Damn I could watch and listen to this all day !! There is no doubt that the older generation of truckers are extremely important to us younger generation of drivers, and I only wish I could operate one of these !
In our new "PC" society, Mack would have to require two drivers to operate them twin sticks. But Barry has the talent to show how it ain't necessary. Great job, and thanks for posting.
"Smile, you're on Candid camera" :)
joe quinlan your damn right!! More control over the heavy weights only Mack’s can handle and keep running and running
Awesome to see someone from that generation still twin sticking!
brings back memories, learnt to drive trucks on the farm in old B61, this a dying art and with fleet owners going auto even the road ranger is a dying art. I tips my hat to you Barry
I spent at least 10 to 15 years of my 60 years of driving truck shifting duplex triplex and quadruplex transmission. And of course we never used a clutch!
Really
cool to see an Old Timer showing us how its done and done right
The way he looks at the camera when he shifts says "you wish you were this cool"
The reason I looked at the phone was the camera was new to me. And I did not know that I was doing a selfie I saw my face on there but I wanted it only to hear the sound of the Mac. I had the camera that phone sitting between a stuff Bulldogs lag sitting on the seat.
yeah he does!!!, f'in awesome!!!!
Barry Grim mmm
@@barrygrim4661 when did you start trucking. Do some more videos please. Thanks for your time trucker
There's nothing cool about driving the way he does, he's an arse.
nice demo Mr. Grim Thanks for your sharing your expertise and long time experience. I am also glad that I had the chance to learn on one these old gals.
Barry Grim thanks for showing us how it's done, I've never driven one myself, but after watching this a couple times I think i got the gist.. that old girl sounds awesome too..
Luv the way he looks at Cam!
As much as everyone says there shifts are like butter it ain't old school if you don't clunk a few gears. Love it hopefully plan to twin stick a pickup after I drove a needle nose peterbilt with a 4x4
Love the sound of a Thermodyne. My late grandfather had a few quads and they fun.
viewers , you can look at the ceiling to see shift pattern . i drove twin stick gas burners when i started in the 80s (main trans synchronized , aux not) , left arm against , never thru the wheel . never drove twins w/both unsynchroed though . every other vid i've seen on the tube , they just change one at a time . respect to b g for showing how it's done .
When you drive more than 100,000 miles a year you learn to do what works the best. it’s been my experience shifting one at a time you lose too much road speed. These Macks did not have a lot of horsepower.
@@barrygrim4661 yeah , that's what we had to do . 10 wheelers , 534 gasburners , 56k loaded , hilly country . we'd have come nearly to a stop if we hadn't . thanks again .
LOL. He keeps looking at the camera like there is a snake in the passenger seat. Don't fear the camera. Don't fear the camera. It will not bite you.
Like a boss! Old Mack sounds pretty good!
YES SIR I NOTICED THE EXTENSIONS ON THE SIFTERS MY FIRST JOB AFTER RETURNING FROM VIET-NAM HAILING STONE AND SAND IN PA/NJ GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO RON
Awesome!..these "truckers" now days could not drive a twin stick truck. Hats off to all the old school truckers
Daniel Leyba hell they can't even drive a Allison automatic !!!
Don't lump us all into one basket.
Mr. Bridgeman you are correct it is a nine speed and it does have 6 inch extensions. The main transmission is next to the driver.
Does that mean it's a 5 spd with a two Spd Auxiliary?
@@andrewnorris1514 yes .
It looks as if he's got an extension on the range shift lever making it a little easier to access when split shifting. Later model twin stick Macks had the range stick closest to the driver.
I had the pleasure of driving only one twin stick Mack in my life time, but I'm glad I was able to do that. It was a 56 B61 single screw tractor with a 9-speed trans. The range stick was away from the driver and you didn't split 5th gear. I'd love to drive another one sometime, but don't know if I'll get the chance. I'd probably be a bit rusty as it's about 40 years since I've driven one, but I'm sure I could get down the road with it. I knew a guy with a 68 R model tractor with a twin stick. The range stick on that model was closest to the driver. In our 56 both levers were perfectly straight and the same height.
The Triplex and the Quad had the range and the main box pattern switched.
This was true professional drivers, we see drivers in flip flops & pajamas .
You can shift each box one at a time. It just takes longer. In the days when a 200 Cummins was king there was no need to get excited. Getting there was going to take awhile.
I haven't twin sticked yet, and it's been almost 20 years. Every time I see drivers do twin boxes I give credit where credit is due. But give me an Allison. Once you drive a truck with one you never go back.
Watching this video again ,,, that stare into the camera this guy means business man whoa and you he what he's doing.....
Hey cousin Barry LOVE IT!
Hes your favorite cousin
There is no way i could do that. Respect!
Love the Mack music.
When I was young and used to drive a triplex when I was learning And before I learned how to bump them back I'd get both sticks a neutral and used to say I'm in double nothing and used to have to start over
Joel Adank. I hated that a b73 i drove would lock up after stoping and crawling underneath with a bar and prying the leakage loose back on the road
wow, that is some of the most smooth 2 stick shifting I ever heard....hardly any grinding, just merely a few clicks. Show em' how they do it downtown.....
Awesome sound
Looking at the placard above the windscreen it has the Duplex transmission, main on left, compound on the right, which is the opposite of the Quadruplex 'box. Pity the camera wasn't set lower down so we could see more of the action.
It sounds like you know your Mack transmission. you were right it is a duplex, I prefer a triplex or a quadruplex
@@barrygrim4661. I've never driven a quad box, but had lots of time in an R model w/- triplex 50 years ago. Many drivers fitted the longer and thinner CAT handles to the sticks, but I left mine as they were but had the sticks bent in closer together. to facilitate an easy one handed shift from third direct to fourth low.
Remembering we sit on the other side of the cab in Australia. Procedure was : Left hand on top of both sticks - fingers bring main stick into neutral and across the gate - thumb brings compound to neutral - push main into fourth position - increase revs slightly and put pressure on compound which will easily slip into gear. This method was a lot more tidy looking than what our mate in the B model was doing and could also be used in a LHD truck.
@@gsd4me00 Sometimes when I shifted from third overdrive to fourth direct I would take my little finger and grab the auxiliary and shift them both at the same time with one hand.
Nice o see the older timer still out there doing what they do best twin sifting these old truck like butter just slides right in
We had the same trans in an old U-Model Mack, quite a handful with no power steering
No fake 2 sticks for this REAL DEAL. You get the feeling hes drove a few Mack's? I love how he stares at the camera.
Now a lot of big fleets don't even train you in 10 speeds anymore.
Eyes on the road Barry.
I watch this video over and over and over I just dig this guygetting into the road getting into the truck into the machine shifting this thing like nothing you very really hear a grinder amidst year nothing the sound of that truck
Mis respetos para todos los de su tiempo esos son conductores de verdad
A real truck driver!!!
Old school to the Mack! Great job!
Excellent !!
Old-timer be gettin' it! :)
Mack Attack!👍😎
Bob Reimer did his shifting on B Model Macks. Check out his song B Model Mack by THE COUNTRY TIGERS CANADA. Bob drove across Canada and U.S.A.
I DROVE FOR EATON, S OF CANADA.
Hello sir
I love you
This is a nine speed factory transmission
God love him
Hey pro driver, keep your eyes on the road....great video...
Hey No Bustin Balls on Barry. Face it he was a distracted driver 50 years ago between the socks the coffee cup the 2 radios and more maps than the Local library. You Dont tell this guy anything unless your 95 years old
Spell check sucks that was 2 sticks
My respect Sr. When you visite my country, i pay the beer and meat on grill...
How about a picture of your bulldog
Excelent truck Driver... Much experience
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF THIS TYPE OF TRANSMISSION WOULD BE BETTER THAT A REGULAR 13spd FOR OVERWEIGHT LOADS?????? Thinking about adapting one to a 12.7 60 series
I think an 18 speed would be best for that application.
I'd like to see his footwork.
Well there is no foot work when I’ll drive this Mack. I shift without the clutch.
@@barrygrim4661 Much respect.
that's the hardest way to do it I always went through the wheel but he did good
One thing for sure you will not fall asleep at the wheel with it
My grandfather has a b61 fully restored
Love it!
I guess you can shift a triplex equally as well ?
I actually prefer driving a quad or a triplex
Has the transmission on the been modefied. Because their were 9 gears in the main and the auxillary was towards the passenger side instead of the drivers side.
Nice Truck!
astronaut shifting get it !
BOB REIMER DROVE B MODRL MACK TRUCKS AND TALKS ABOUT SHIFTING BY MEANS OF THE STEERING WHEEL.
THIS DRIVER SHOWS US HOW ITS DONE. TKS MUCH. CHECK OUT BOB, S SONG WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE B MODEL MACK by THE COUNTRY TIGERS.
I DROVE FOR EATON, S OF CANADA
ON EATON, S TRUCKS WE DID NOT HAVE TO DOUBLE SHIFT.
VIEDO VERY INTERSTING. TKS A MILLION.
WATCHING JAN 1ST 2020
LIKE THIS VIDEO
SUPER SHIFTING NICE TRUCK
Music to my ear's the sound of a Detroit Diesel :)
This is not a Detroit diesel but a mack 673 in.³ 180 hp.
You got owned
+69ChevroletNova same hete
Erm, we're listening to a four stroke engine, not a two stroke....
I drove a b model 673 no turbo had to keep rpm at 21 to 24 with straight pipes it sounded like a detroit
I've watched these videos a lot and I can make no sense out of how to shift these transmissions.
i drove twin stick gas burners , this is similar (i think) . start off with main trans in 1st/auxiliary in low , wind up , shift aux to high , wind up , shift main to 2nd/aux to low , wind up , shift aux to high , etc . see ceiling of his truck to see location/shift patterns of both trans .
You use both sticks at the same time!? I'll have to try this. I feel I'll just end up with 2 neutrals and have to start over.
Can you split 5th?
Real safe,not watching the road,laws here about distracted driving.
This country was built by tough distracted workers. Your distracted just shiftin the 2 levers with No horsepower and No torque
How is this a nine speed, duplex transmissions are ten speed aren't they
my respects
Is this what they call a 5 & 2 ?
Usually a 5 and 2 is a 5speed trans with a 2 speed axle
It's called a duplex, the 5 x 3 is a triplex, 5 x 4 is a quadraplex
At your age you should know better than to take both hands off the wheel,this is not how to shift properly.
At your age you should know not to pass judgement on a Legendary Driver
@@andrewnorris1514 What is he legendary for, not changing gear properly or taking both hands off the wheel, legendary my arse!
@@MrHarleyoldfart HA HA HA. You dont recognize greatness?
@@andrewnorris1514 Not in this video, all i see is an old fart pissing about changing gears. nothing great about that, if he had done that as the manufacturer intended
then he may well have been good, but that's all.
@@MrHarleyoldfart Americas Greatest Generation