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Adding Honey and Glycerin to Watercolor Paints
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2017
- In this video we’ll take a look at adding honey or glycerine to watercolor paints to prevent cracking and enhance flow.
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Fun fact: honey does not expire. It can last thousands of years without ever going bad. Microorganisms can’t grow in it due to the enzymes present
Also the reason it keeps watercolors “juicy” is because honey is naturally hygroscopic, meaning it attracts water from the air
I've added glycerin to winsor and newton cotman colours. Some were completely unusable because I added too much glycerin and the paint never dried. But the ones that I got right rewet beautifully :)
Gliserin also helps gouache to settle in to pans with out cracking
Thank you for this! I would not have guessed glycerin would be the winner.
Glycerin "is a colorless, odorless, viscous liquid that is sweet-tasting and non-toxic. The glycerol backbone is found in all lipids known as triglycerides. It is widely used in the food industry as a sweetener and humectant and in pharmaceutical formulations." It's an essential structural components of all fats (this includes oils), but by itself, it is not a fat.
hovawart16 does it have to say just “glycerin” or can ‘vegetable glycerin’ be allowed too? Im sorry im not really sure hehe
glycerin will dry out. You need honey as well. You need 2 drop using a dropper
When I made bubble bars I had to add glycerin, they came out great but I used a little too much and it took weeks for them to finally dry out and harden!! 😊
@@elenakeen2399 There are different grades of glycerin from industrial to food grade. Glycerin is mostly made from vegetable oils, but now most food grade is made using coconut oil. If you are only using it in paints, then any glycerin is ok, but it most likely it will be food grade.
Supposedly some animal based glycerine/glycerol can yellow over time - not something you want to happen to your watercolours, usually.
I put Honey to very cheap colors, cause there was no
way to let it try in a pan. It broke too much and by rewetting you did get little peaces of color in your Brush. With Honey you could Let it try it and rewet the color very easyly. And color was getting much brighter. Please fogive my bad englisch schools over since 40 years and I uses my schools englisch mit often.
Greetings Form Germany
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You did pretty good with the English! My German would be much worse!
This is because honey is naturally hygroscopic, which means it attracts water in the air
This is wonderful to hear. have recently been gifted a set of Milan Watercolor tubes, and I adore them. However they do no keep well in my palette. I hope this works!
You have nice English.
Thanks for the excellent presentation. Your knowledge about the glycerin is from my experience correct. The medical grades are the better choice [better purity]. I've used a ratio of one eight teaspoon glycerin to 4 oz of my wetting water for my dry paint pans. So this is a nice solution making my own dry paint pans from tube paints.
Fun video! I love to experiment!
I've been using glycerine to revive my watercolors for years. I did discover that it is best diluted in water and sprayed onto the palette. I found that just covering the bottom of the little spray bottle with glycerine and then filling it with water is plenty. I shake it every time I use it as it separates. I don't use it unless paint will not reconstitute. If a pan looks dull, it usually doesn't reconstitute easily. I add a spritz or two and more water and let it sit and it is usually fine. If a tube has dried out, I peel the tube off and put the chunk of paint in a small container that can be resealed. I spray it with my glycerine mixture and add some water and let it sit, covered, for a day or two. That's usually long enough to make it workable again.
When I added too much glycerine, it becomes permanently sticky - in the pan and on the painting. That is discouraging!
I know that some pigments are more difficult than others to reconstitute. I only use M. Graham or other honey-based brands when buying Viridian, because I cannot reconstitute other brands thoroughly. If paints flake out of the palette, I add water and a bit more paint on the bottom and push the flaked paint back into that. Cracks don't bother me - it's just when it pops off the palette that I find it is a problem.
Thanks for sharing all of your personal accounts!
After painting for over 40 years, it just kind of spills out! LOL!
Kathleen, Thank you so much for your experience here! You just answered my exact question on just using the glycerin in my small spritz bottle!
I mix 1 tsp glycerine to 2 cups warm water and keep it in a sealed container until I need it. I looked into this and found out that this helps my paints stay moist longer because my paints were drying way too fast when I’m painting.
So thank you for sharing!
You can also use a tiny bit of gum Arabic to the pallet and use it like a glue if your pieces fall out in chunks and water isn’t making them stick back in and holding them in there or if they keep falling out.
Thanks so much for this comparison, it is very helpful! I have some W&N PB15 and it dries so hard compared to what I’m used to. I tried adding a drop of glycerin to the pan - and it came out with a consistency similar to the Daniel Smith PB15 (both “Manganese Blue Hue”). However, this was not the best solution for me, as I find that formula gives an unusual, sort of blotchy texture, and I was thinking about trying honey instead. This video is super helpful in that I can see/confirm what others might call “a drop”, and it’s also nice to know that even professional artists gotta try stuff out in order to know how it’ll work. Thanks again Denise, looking forward to checking out your channel and I’ll probably see you soon on Skillshare!
I'm so glad I caught this I've been going nuts trying to figure out what to do with my cheap but super pigmented new paints! I didn't want to toss them, I tried honey, but they definitely need a bit more. Off to the pharmacy!
Hope the glycerine or extra honey helps!
so is it better using honey or glycerin?
@@josephinelivina4224 Depends on the paint that you have, you can add both if you're able to, in the video I believe it's better with glycerin but again, it depends on the paint that you have.
@@lilac3374 I think you're right.. just have to experiment on my own then.. thanks for replying :-)
Great demonstration, thank you! I am filling half pans and my white, yellow, and orange colors have cracked straight from the tube, so this was exactly what I needed to learn before I continued filling more pans.
Brooke Neugebauer I'm glad it was helpful!
@@InLiquidColor do you have a video on your skin tone palette I’m very interested in what you have!!!
I live near several bee keepers. All 4 , in this area, say that the first honeys are very light. They also usually keep this for themselves as they all prize this honey. So I get a small amount in the late spring when they take the first off.
Thank you very much for this, what I do is add the Glycerine to my water which helps to keep watercolour active longer, so it doesn't dry out so quick.
Miguel Angel I'm glad it was helpful!
It's much easier to mix paint in a pan. Fill no more than 3/4 full so there is room to mix. It keeps it contained, it's easy to scrape against the sides, and no waste. You can then keep the pan or transfer it to a well. If your experiment fails, just rinse it out. I would have loved to have seen more tests... how does it move wet in wet? How does it lift? What happens with both honey and glycerine.. they do two different things.
Your honey/glycerine demonstration came up in a google search. Your comments were timely and very helpful to me. I've recently started experimenting with pigment dispersion's using honey and dextrin with the gum arabic solution. You've inspired me to see how well glycerin does under the same circumstances. Appearances seem to indicate it worth trying! Thank you
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I've been binge-watcing your Color Spotlight series :)
Thank you so much Cari! That means a lot to me :) I hope you're enjoying the series!
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Every time I watch your videos, I learn something new and gain a new perspective. Thank you for all you do!
If anyone wants to be accurate, I recommend a 50 gram scale. They measure down to I think .01 or .001 grams, which is VERY light. They're cheap on Amazon.
I experimented with glycerin in gouache and wondered if it would work as well in wc, so thanks for this video!
With my gouache experiment, though, I added way too much--about 1 part to 3 parts paint (a LOT more than in this vid), and the resulting sketch took forever to dry. I'm talking, over a day!
This is such an odd coincidence! I had just decided to make my own watercolour cakes from tube paint and I was wondering if it would be best to add honey or glycerine to them! Thank you so much! Very simple to follow yet informative video as usual! 💖
Wonderful! I'm glad the timing and the video were helpful :)
Kat G you can do that easy. it cracking deoends on the brand and the grade(student or artist) but also on the the moisture in the room air and the moisture? temperture in your country. Glycerin will give mold a base to eat from. so after it dries close the lid not before its dry. and don t keep it in very moist rooms or in nright sunlight( in bright sunlight. even if it s inside a room, the dried paint even de ready made pan wc paints will become tacky and can leak out off the pan if it s not on a horizontal surface placed. will do that even inside a pallet that s closed. the brands in my country s wheather that did a good job without glycerin or honey added where the Van Gogh and the Rembramdt. the W &N did well on the volors i jad except my olive green one( forgot the official name)
a great video as always. I did want to add the sennelier also has a lot of honey on their paints.
ColoringKaria indeed. Same with MGraham. Both are sticky when "dry" (Senneliers tube samples not the pans of course)
I add a bit of both when I make my own paints. I think (and have seen) paints get shiny with too much gum arabic, but not with glycerin. Then again, maybe I never went far enough XD Great video, thank you!
Eve Bolt - Bolt's Vault thanks Eve! Looking forward to more of your paint making adventures.
I'm working on it! ;) Thanks!
Good evening from France ! (and my apologies for my english)
Thanks a lot for your channel. I'm learning quite a lot. Your favorite blues / yellow and so on, and your Color Spotlights are just awesome (and also, terribly bad for the bank account of broke law student / beginner watercolorist ahah).
I had a question, per any chance, did you make a list of all your discovery, wich paint need glycerin, wich do not, or wich are better straight frome the tube ? I'm about to do my first pans, i was painting off the tube until now. That would be quite a useful information. From what i understand, almost all of the primatek (all of them ?!) and the cobalt violets would benefit from one to two drop of glycerine. Any other ?
Thanks in advance.
Oh, and if any people interested read this, even so i believe it's the same in any country, this the time to do the french museums. There is almost nobody inside (compare to "normal" times), no hundreds of people in front of a tiny painting, even at the Louvre et so on.
I picked up an empty dropper bottle from my local Chemist/Pharmacy, it's only about 10ml and decanted some glycerol into it about 4 years ago and it's still going. I find not all paints need it, it varies by manufacturer and by pigment - Some colours just go rock hard when dry and really difficult to wet. To those colours I generally add 1 - 2 drops of glycerine depending on the pan size i.e. half / full pan or open well. Using a dropper or pipette, gives you some consistency. In time you will find some colours may require less or more to achieve the same the same re-wetting ability. I have never tried Honey but I imagine you would need a fair bit more than you were using. Over the years I have tried to avoid using it by either finding alternative brands or keeping a particular colour in the tube until needed and just putting a blob out as required .
Thanks for sharing Peter!
Awesome, I was in the middle of the same experiment. I thought honey would be the one to win for sure. Maybe I’ll try adding a little of both!
Currently trying this with my arteza colors, and my other cheaper alternatives because I want to be able to carry them with me in a tin whitout them cracking and falling out!
I'm so glad you compared the two additives. I had wondered if one worked better then the other and about how much to use. I noticed that the Daniel Smith Primateks dry very hard and are not easy to rewet so I'll use glycerin with them when I add them to my pallet. Thank you so much for sharing such useful info.
I'm so glad it's helpful! :) Good luck with the Primateks! I know they can be a little tricky.
Paint to Paper how did it go with the primatec paints? I am wondering if this will improve the Daniel Smith Mayan paints for the pallet. I have the Mayan Blue, Red, and Yellow.
You can add gum arabic as well as a binder combined with honey.
Thank you, this is just what I was looking for.
Thank-you for this video......I had no idea that you could even do this to watercolor paints without effecting the light fastness and the other qualities of the watercolor. Thank-You....
I'm glad it was helpful! :)
This is a good experiment too but i usually used to add liquid glue to the water paints. This make my paints a good thick texture and it helps to make my paints dry very fast than usual time-lapse.
The only thing to keep in mind is that we have to add color while we mix the paint with water at the same time add liquid glue to make desired consistency or thickness and then paint on canvas.. this would come easy to get thicker paint strokes..
will use glycerine. Thanks for all the info.
Could you do a tutorial on how to set up and use your skin tone palette? It would be really helpful. :) ty
Hi Katherine, the set up for the skin tone palette is at the end of my video "Palette Update" I will post a video when I finally get a chance to use it :)
Thank you for the info
This was great. I'm new to watercolor. This helps a lot.
It sounds interesting especially the honey one
This is so useful! I have been looking for a comprehensive guide on how much to use and particularly one that shows both honey and glycerine!
This was very helpful, thanks for doing this experiment!
Thanks for this interesting video. Since with glycerin it wets nicer, how about it lifting and glazing properties? Did you notice any noticable differences? Did you have to change the way you handle the glycerin mixture paint in comparisson to you colors that don't have added glycerin?
Hmm very interesting, never would have thought of adding honey to my watercolors 🤔
I started with a set of mission gold tube paints but I have now after about a year, moving away from most of them because of the potential for a shiny surface if I get the paint a little too thick. I wonder if adding glycerin to a honey paint like mission gold would get rid of the shine? Thank you! I always love your videos as they are so interesting! Admittedly I sometimes speed up the longer ones only because time is precious. 💕
happy to hear we will have much more content from you :D
Great review! Thank you for sharing and answering my honey and glycerine questions!
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting! Any info on how they affect lifting colors off the paper?☀️
how do the different paint formulations respond to lifting?
Very helpful video, thank you!
fantastic video i use gum arabic to thicken an extend my paints aquapasto as well
This is such a helpful video! Thanks a lot.
Thanks for the Experiment. I wonder how would they compare with each other wet on wet. Which one would flow and move better?
I got little packs of honey and I wanted to try it with watercolor. I don’t know people actually did this.cool
Very interesting, thanks for the demo.
Just ordered some glycerin. Glad I found this or I’d use too much. I want to try it on gouache which dries like rock. Even m graham.
thank you - this has really helped - I'm looking to get the Arteza big box and I've heard they don't dry well on their own.
Hey if you're a beginner, I've heard that starting out with smaller sets helps to learn about Color mixing and is better in the long-run. Arteza does make pans too. I think it would be a great idea to watch Emily artfuls video on them!
Hi Bettie! I also received a big box of Arteza tubes and am looking to fill a palette. Have you fiddled around with adding glycerin in them? How was it?
@@riverbeee9643 yes, I put glycerine, and they still cracked like crazy. :( If I drop the pallet, they come loose, and huge chunks fly everywhere. The colors are good tho, and they do blend well. Just wish they were better drying.
I am having that same issue now. I loaded up a Workhorse double sided pallet and they all fell from the foldover side. I was very perturbed.
Nicely done!
So very informative! Thank you! I really learned something.
I'm glad! Thank you for watching :)
perfect,! we had a conversation about this regarding the Daniel smith paints because they can dry as hard as a rock ,I agree the glycerin looks like it re wets the best, now I'll try with the glycerin with my few tubes of DS paints then maybe then I may buy more
thankyou very much!
Heather
I looked at my granulating palette after I did this and was like, "Umpf, I should have added this to the green apatite genuine!" Thanks for watching!
well if you get a chance to let me know if it helps!
Great tip, thank you.
Eek! Wish I had seen this before I added waaay too much glycerine to a couple colors yesterday. Oops! Now I’ll know better next time. Thankfully I only put 2 colors of a cheaper paint onto the palette. I think they’ll still dry eventually, but they’re taking much longer than the other colors. I added a “drop” about the size of a dried lentil to about 1/2-3/4 tsp paint. Interestingly, one of the colors still severely cracked.
Aw shucks! I hope it works out!
Really interesting video. I do have a few colors that cracked so next time I'm going to try some honey. Not sure if glycerine can be found in pharmacy here in France but I will ask. Thank you :)
I'm glad it was helpful! I hope you're able to find what you're looking for :)
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Really love your tires! Thanks😚
Can we use both at the same time
I've been subscribed/ following for quite some time but had never seen this video so it popped up on my feed and decided to have a look. I was curious on whether any paints have a combination of glycerine and honey or if they aren't a good combination to mix. If you have covered this before and I've overlooked it please could you link me to the video.
Hi Kitty, I don't know any of the long term effects of combining the two, but I don't think it's problematic. I have heard some people mention that glycerin evaporates over time, leaving paints hard again, but I have not had that experience with it so far. Someone who makes paints like Eve Bolt may have a better answer for you! :)
Do you believe that adding glycerin prolongs the durability of water color for a longer period of time in front of exposed light?
Is it possible to mix with gouache to stop it from cracking. Cause I would like to have a gouache in pans. I tried to make gouache pallet once but once it dried the colours cracked and went all over the place. Please any suggestions!!
jass99ful It depends on your pan size but plan on adding a minimum of 4 drops of glycerin
If you use m graham and sennelier paints they don't dry out. Their binder is honey so they are always ready to go and they don't run.
Hey ho...do you have any longterm experiences? I just thought about mixing some of the Daniel Smiths colours, especially some of the primateks (some dry hard as a rock), with glycerin...hoped than they will be easier to rewet this way...what do you think?
Yes, it would be nice to have an update. I got the Art Whale tubes back when they were on sale because of the "Cerulean issue". I just dug the paint out from the bottom end of the tube, but it's obvious they forgot to put something in it. 😂 I'm determined to fix it!
I just was looking at a thing of glycerin in the pharmacy aisle at walmart and it was only 3 bucks- but i wasnt sure if it was the right now- Ill grab it tonight- great video!
Yep! That'll do. I couldn't find any at my local store (arg) so I just got the little bottle on Amazon.
I've always found my glycerine in the hand cream section of a pharmacy. It has gone up in price a lot but that's been the easiest place for me.
Thanks for the video, it was really helpful. A little question. Do you think I can do the same with gouache?
Very cool test! Tfs!
Thanks for your video! I've a question for you, maybe someone from the comments may help as well: i'd like to buy some watercolours tubes from amazon (student quality) and ideally put them in some half pans to carry around, but from the reviews this specific brand dries very badly and tends to crack easily; would you add glycerin/honey to make it permanently uncrackable or should i look for some other options? Thanks in advance
Elios Mao what paint are you trying to buy? The cheaper the paint the more glycerin you will have to add. For my shinhan watercolor I only added one-two drops of glycerin. But when I had my cheap artist left I had to add 4-5 drops.
Does it affect transparency?
Do you have to worry about the honey degrading or attracting ants?
I have never had any issues with ants. It's a very small amount. And honey is a natural preservative so it won't spoil the paints :)
2 Questions:
1. Is it okay to mix honey and glycerin to the watercolor paints? Or only either or (and why?))
2. You did a flesh pan! How did you go about finding an affordable way of making one?
Awesome work
Sennelier water colors are made with honey and available through Blick.
I trie honey ang the colors got covered with mould
I don't think it's the honey, since honey never spoils (really!!). It is probably the pigment in your paints. I think that earth colors mixes spoil a bit more easily than most.
The honey doesn't mold but the water that it attracts does. It's a humectant which pulls moisture from the air. Pigments don't usually mold without moisture.
@@everartokelli Thank you
@@veaudor Thanks
Do you think this would work with watercolors that smear when then they dry? I got some free no label pans and they spread pigment when dry.
Could honey and glycerin help gouache to not dry so fast to give extra mixing /blending time on the paper?
Iv come to realize i absolutely adore working with honey based watercolors, but never tried glycerin base so i’m not sure now lol.
So if you have paints that are already honey-based, would you ever add more honey or glycerin to them?
Mary Algar you could but generally those paints don't have an issue resetting to begin with :) even my mission gold paints that do crack still reset readily they're just not as pretty in a pan haha.
Are you sure all glycerin are the same,drugstore or vegetable glycerin?
Mary Hutt The purity of the glycerin will usually be put on the label.
??? Confused here. Did you mix these directly into your tube paints, and if so, how much of each; or did you mix into your water, and if so how much? Also, on your ox gall video, it would have been nice to see how they looked if you charged a second layer on each ox gall swipe. Thanks for the video!
How can I add honey or glycerin into my watercolors? They are not in a tube and they are very chalky so I wanted to try....
What honey do you use?
hi Denise! i have bought some cotman, grumbacher and van gogh tubes and i will be filling that paint into half pans, how much glycerin do i add?, btw i love your channel!! i don't miss any video
Thank you Paulina! I haven't had too many issues pouring Cotmans or the one tube of Van Gogh I have. I haven't used grumbacher so I don't know from experience. Perhaps a drop or two?
I have some watercolors from school that are just horrible, they are Faber-Castell, I am thinking about molling the pans and then adding ox gall and glicerin/honey and let they dry again while waiting my new Paul Rubens Artists Watercolors arrive from China, wich will take 2 to 3 months. The major problems I have with those Faber-Castell aside from chalkiness, ligtfastness and brightness are rewetting and flow. Maybe this solves the problem.
I'm late in seeing this, but in my experience, re mulling paint rarely gives good results. I'd buy a cheap set of Prangs at your local art or craft shop! They're quite nice for just a couple dollars.
I have vegetable glycerin is that the same thing as glycerin?
Yes
Hi Denise, can honey and glycerin be added to gouache paints? I have a Winsor & Newton Designer Gouache and they all crack when dry.
Hi Xi! I'm not sure. I haven't worked with gouache personally. I hope to get some soon! I think the reason they crack is because there is white and/or filler added to them. I'll see what I can find out!
Thanks Denise! :)
Thank you for this! I’m very new to paints so this is incredibly helpful. Will this work the same with designers gouache?
I have limited experience with gouache, but from my understanding yes :)
This is awesome. I was originally investigating how to rewet my colors to put them in a new container, because I made them with too much gum arabic, and so they all cracked. I didnt think I needed honey or glycerin, I didnt realize it wasnt optional! haha. Do you have any suggestions as to how to melt back down cracked watercolor, so that I can add the glycerin drops or honey, without completely watering them down? Or do you have some trick that may be helpful anyone? I have a ton of paint now that I mixed, like 36 colors, 6 full pans of each, and I really dont want to waste them because I mixed some of them with Daniel Smith.....hahaha Any suggestions would be sooo nice! I am truly a beginner at this.
I know this question was a year old, but I have done this so I thought I would answer since no one else did. I put the dried paint in a small bowl. Added distilled water, enough to cover it. Let it sit for a while, then started stirring and smashing it with the back of a spoon. It takes a while, and you may need more water, need to let it soak more, or leave it covered overnight. It really depends on how much dried paint you are working with and the brand/formula. This is a messy, long process. Eventually you get liquefied paint. Then you have to let it dry out, uncovered but in a protected place so nothing gets in it such as pet hair or dust and it doesn't get spilled.... it can take days and you need to keep an eye on it so it doesn't dry completely. Stir occasionally. Finally you wind up with thick yet liquid paint you can add whatever you want to and transfer to a container such as a well or pan. Then let it dry again completely. I don't know if it is worth it.. but I've saved some expensive paints that were in a palette I hated that way. Now I pan everything in full pans so I can move it whenever I like.
@@waymire01 wow! Thank you so much for answering! I so appreciate that! I still havent quite figured out the ratio of honey or glycerin needed to make a paint that doesnt crack, but I have moved on from making or saving paints atm. I did try what you just suggested about a year ago and I was able to get a bit of it, however since my paint was made of crystals, it ended up being very difficult to maneuver. 😩😩😩🤪🤣🤣🤣 Thanks Again! 🙏🏻
you know i just put my watercolors into a special stay wet palette instead. Less work. But still this was interesting
My problems are my watercolour dry super chalky and granulated like crazy! And when it stored away for a while, some of the pigments just rubbing against other pages. Does this helps?
It sounds like those are very inexpensive paints. Watercolors shouldn't be chalky or ever rub off on another page (though sometime gouache does this). I'd recommend trying out a different brand!
Are cracked watercolours bad? Like do they stop working or something?
They're not bad, they're just prone to falling out out their wells.
Will glycerin stop paints from molding. If not, what stop mold?
Honey should.
Does it do anything to the paint's quality if it cracked? Uhmm will it be hard to rewet?
LE KawaiiKitsune it makes the paint easier to rewet.
I guess I never had trouble with cracking paints and this is the reason for adding the honey or glycerine? I did not thumbs down nor thumbs up as I am not sure about his video I do know it takes a lot of effort to post these videos, and that is appreciated.
I very rarely add it to my paints. It's mostly needed for cheap paints, or on the extreme other end, many of Daniel Smith's Primatek colors dry very hard and this is useful for that as well.
Just curious...does it matter what kind of honey to use?
Lighter in color is better and one that do not turn in sugar so fast.
C'mon! I just made a pallette and the paints cracked but now I watch this video.
How many times can you add glycerine to your watercolors? Is it only once or a couple of times while you are using it? Sorry I can't find anything regarding that. Any advice?
You only add them once, when you pour the paint out of the tube. Then you mix it. Once it's dry, you don't add anything else but water.
It's actually just to prevent cracking after drying, cause most brands use a different formula for their tube paints than for their pan paints.
@@olgahein4384 thank you so much this really helped thank you.
Why don't you just buy M. Graham watercolor paints. There great and already mixed.
I actually add a bit of both. :-)
How much of both?