When I comes to external storage, the main difference between TB3 and TB4 is that TB4 doubles the PCIe data speed from 16Gbps to 32Gbps. That was to ensure you get the full data transfer speed and still be able to do video data which is guaranteed at 8 Gbps in both specs. TB3 didn't have that PCIe guarantee. However, supposedly Apple supported the 32 Gbps in their implementation of TB3. So in theory it shouldn't matter. But in practice I'm guessing that the way Apple implemented speed in TB3 vs TB4 is related to overall capabilities of whatever system it is (M1 iMac vs. M3 Pro MBP, etc.). At the end of the day, these speeds are plenty for 99% of people, even video creators or casual gamers.
I love your reviews since technology changes so rapidly. I have a Mac Studio in my future so this is relevant information for me. I can't test all these different enclosures/SSD's; your work is saving me lots of money and makes me an educated buyer to purchase products that will work well for me without breaking the bank.
Thank you. This one is more of a product showcase since I have not tested it long term but hopefully others will be posting their experiences too and we can get more info on these. Thank you.
I've used Orico enclosures for years, and they're very reliable. I have two that I bought based on your recommendations for NVME storage for my Mac, and I have a couple of them with 3.5 HDDs that I use for archiving files.
They can be but just like any product we will know a bit more once it has time to circulate out and the users give feedback. Thanks for watching the channel.
One thing I found really strange is all my external SSDs are faster on writes than reads in BlackMagic speed test. Even the internal M.2 drive in my Mac mini 2014, the writes were still faster. This is strange because drive manufacturers usually market their read speeds because reads are generally faster than writes in Windows, I don’t know why it’s reversed in macOS.
New to your channel and being older l am not tech savvy, so learning a lot here. But could you please change your shirt😂😂Lol. Either way I have subscribed.
Nice. This is actually not my team but I like the Jersey. When I visit England my team is normally Fulham (and I have a shirt for them too) because I love the stadium and visiting the smaller field with the history there. Thanks for posting.
After watching your video I went on Amazon for the ORICO R40 2 TB 40 Gbps Thunderbolt External SSD at $249. There was a 20% coupon that I clicked on that would be applied upon checkout. I got $50 off and the SSD cost me $199. I have a 2023 Mac-mini so I hope it works out all right.
Yes, post how it works out. Like I said in the video I only tested my one unit and I have no longer term tests. I want to get more real data on my product showcase to help everybody. Thanks for watching.
Hi Craig, you have compared many external SSDs, I am curious which one you prefer, considering speed, fan-noise, reliability, etc. Satechi (Model: ST-EU4NPM), Graugear PCIe 4.0,ORICO R40 or others? Thank you
I have a few more coming soon. The Acacias works well and most do. The issue is that I do product showcases because I'm only one person and can only review my experience. Since I have so many too I tend to use a bunch but maybe not to their limits. I think it comes down to if you want to build one with the SSD and enclosure which might be best but is more work vs. buying a pre-built one. But to be honest I have not had many issues with any of them yet including the Graugear, Minisopuru, Orico, Satechi, and others. I think the cooling and the drive you put in is more important than the enclosure. I would review the Amazon reviews to get a very wide scope and make your decision.
@@craigneidel it's a Glasgow Celtic chant. Post your photo with your shirt on the Glasgow Celtic website and you will get loads of subscribers to your page. Ps sorry about posting about football on your tech site
As Orico does not build SSDs what brand is inside? In my Anyoyo TB enclosure fanless i have a Samsung 990 Pro 2TB (quite a waste i only used it i had it just on hand) on my MBA M1 it is slightly faster than the build in storage. I think 3100 MB/s is end of the line as a certain part of the TB bandwidth is reserved for different tasks. I still want to test against a NVME3 2 TB SSD i assume there will ben no/no big difference in speed. Important is the drive you use has a real DDR-RAM Cache and not a Cacheless drive or simulated SLC Cache. DDR-RAM does not degrade NANDs do. degrade
The read speed is even worse than WD Black SN770. I don't like the fan and the LED light. Overall, the write performance is only slightly better (approx. 300 MB/s). The overall price is significantly higher than the well-known combination of SN 770 + Acasys Enclosure
I have a IMAC desktop and currently have a Samsung SSD T7 hooked up. Only problem is that it's set up as read only, for even me as the administrator on my own home IMAC. Any ideas?
Try this. I got it from Google: \Here's how to fix it: Select the drive in the Finder. Press Command-I to display the Get Info window. At the bottom of the window, click the arrow next to Sharing & Permissions to display permissions. Click on the Privilege menu next to your username and choose Read & Write. Close the Get Info window.
@@dipanshusabharwal yes and no. I have 3 windows laptops for my channel but I use my apple computers 95 percent of the time. It's my choice and I pick them. So there is some value to me for sure.
I use an Acasis 40Gbps USB4 enclosure holding a WD SN770 2tb SSD on a M2 Mac Mini. My read /write speed are in the 2700-2800 MBPS.
When you get up there you can't really tell the difference. They are all fast.
Hey Craig, love your Celtic shirt! Nice!!! 🍀🍀🍀
@@tux4tosh thanks. Love the shirt colors.
When I comes to external storage, the main difference between TB3 and TB4 is that TB4 doubles the PCIe data speed from 16Gbps to 32Gbps. That was to ensure you get the full data transfer speed and still be able to do video data which is guaranteed at 8 Gbps in both specs. TB3 didn't have that PCIe guarantee. However, supposedly Apple supported the 32 Gbps in their implementation of TB3. So in theory it shouldn't matter. But in practice I'm guessing that the way Apple implemented speed in TB3 vs TB4 is related to overall capabilities of whatever system it is (M1 iMac vs. M3 Pro MBP, etc.). At the end of the day, these speeds are plenty for 99% of people, even video creators or casual gamers.
Thanks for the info on your post.
Craig, Thanks for posting this video
You got it again.
I love your reviews since technology changes so rapidly. I have a Mac Studio in my future so this is relevant information for me. I can't test all these different enclosures/SSD's; your work is saving me lots of money and makes me an educated buyer to purchase products that will work well for me without breaking the bank.
Thank you. This one is more of a product showcase since I have not tested it long term but hopefully others will be posting their experiences too and we can get more info on these. Thank you.
I have taken your tips before for external storage. Your solutions has been just as fast on PC as on mac. Thanks for all the tips and options
Thank you. I normally do the product showcases to show what is out there and I love getting feedback on things after people try them out. Thank you.
I've used Orico enclosures for years, and they're very reliable. I have two that I bought based on your recommendations for NVME storage for my Mac, and I have a couple of them with 3.5 HDDs that I use for archiving files.
They can be but just like any product we will know a bit more once it has time to circulate out and the users give feedback. Thanks for watching the channel.
One thing I found really strange is all my external SSDs are faster on writes than reads in BlackMagic speed test. Even the internal M.2 drive in my Mac mini 2014, the writes were still faster. This is strange because drive manufacturers usually market their read speeds because reads are generally faster than writes in Windows, I don’t know why it’s reversed in macOS.
Yeah I tend to trust data transfer test more as it's a real world test.
New to your channel and being older l am not tech savvy, so learning a lot here. But could you please change your shirt😂😂Lol. Either way I have subscribed.
Thanks for sub but shirt stays. Love soccer and tech.
@@craigneidel played the game until I was 55. I am originally from Glasgow so I know the shirt well😀
Nice. This is actually not my team but I like the Jersey. When I visit England my team is normally Fulham (and I have a shirt for them too) because I love the stadium and visiting the smaller field with the history there. Thanks for posting.
After watching your video I went on Amazon for the ORICO R40 2 TB 40 Gbps Thunderbolt External SSD at $249. There was a 20% coupon that I clicked on that would be applied upon checkout.
I got $50 off and the SSD cost me $199. I have a 2023 Mac-mini so I hope it works out all right.
Yes, post how it works out. Like I said in the video I only tested my one unit and I have no longer term tests. I want to get more real data on my product showcase to help everybody. Thanks for watching.
Very nice preview.
@@jaimeduncan6167 thank you
Hi Craig, you have compared many external SSDs, I am curious which one you prefer, considering speed, fan-noise, reliability, etc. Satechi (Model: ST-EU4NPM), Graugear PCIe 4.0,ORICO R40 or others?
Thank you
I have a few more coming soon. The Acacias works well and most do. The issue is that I do product showcases because I'm only one person and can only review my experience. Since I have so many too I tend to use a bunch but maybe not to their limits. I think it comes down to if you want to build one with the SSD and enclosure which might be best but is more work vs. buying a pre-built one. But to be honest I have not had many issues with any of them yet including the Graugear, Minisopuru, Orico, Satechi, and others. I think the cooling and the drive you put in is more important than the enclosure. I would review the Amazon reviews to get a very wide scope and make your decision.
Nice Celtic jersey!
My team is Fulham but I picked this up when I was over there. I thought it was a cool jersey.
@@craigneidel I am a Celtic and ManU fan. Love the videos, I appreciate the effort you put into the product showcases.
@@kevindonohue446 thanks for the nice words. I played soccer my entire young life so I still like watching it.
Hail hail brother! ❤
Not sure what that means
@@craigneidel it's a Glasgow Celtic chant. Post your photo with your shirt on the Glasgow Celtic website and you will get loads of subscribers to your page. Ps sorry about posting about football on your tech site
@@craigneidel Celtic football slang, "hail hail the Celtic's are here"
Yep, I have been to a few games over in England and Scotland before and it's a great time.
thank you for review, a question: using exactly the same ssd drive, is it faster than Acasis TBU405PROM1?
You can't use the same ssd drive since the orico has a built in SSD.
As Orico does not build SSDs what brand is inside?
In my Anyoyo TB enclosure fanless i have a Samsung 990 Pro 2TB (quite a waste i only used it i had it just on hand) on my MBA M1 it is slightly faster than the build in storage. I think 3100 MB/s is end of the line as a certain part of the TB bandwidth is reserved for different tasks. I still want to test against a NVME3 2 TB SSD i assume there will ben no/no big difference in speed. Important is the drive you use has a real DDR-RAM Cache and not a Cacheless drive or simulated SLC Cache. DDR-RAM does not degrade NANDs do. degrade
Orico does make SSDs. They sell on Amazon too. I think J-10.
The read speed is even worse than WD Black SN770. I don't like the fan and the LED light. Overall, the write performance is only slightly better (approx. 300 MB/s). The overall price is significantly higher than the well-known combination of SN 770 + Acasys Enclosure
Yes it's just one option out there for sure. Other options can be good.
Interesting
@@BobDoe_69 thanks for watching
I have a IMAC desktop and currently have a Samsung SSD T7 hooked up. Only problem is that it's set up as read only, for even me as the administrator on my own home IMAC. Any ideas?
Not sure. If you don't need data maybe reformat it.
Try this. I got it from Google: \Here's how to fix it:
Select the drive in the Finder.
Press Command-I to display the Get Info window.
At the bottom of the window, click the arrow next to Sharing & Permissions to display permissions.
Click on the Privilege menu next to your username and choose Read & Write.
Close the Get Info window.
Thanks for the tip
buy a samsung t7 for less then 150
Yes, you can but it will be quite a bit slower for sure.
Look where Apple has brought us. How can a company stoop so low and for money? Is there no humanity left on earth?
I mean just don't buy apple if you don't like them. Seems super easy to me.
@@craigneidel A lot of people don't. That doesn't mean we can't call a thief a thief.
@@dipanshusabharwal yes and no. I have 3 windows laptops for my channel but I use my apple computers 95 percent of the time. It's my choice and I pick them. So there is some value to me for sure.