David Pakman: *does a interview with Parenti years ago.* Also David Pakman: *bashes Socialism years later, the same economic system that Michael Parenti was advocating for.* Pakman Logic. It's simply a mindboggler.
It's funny how Parenti resonates so well with the subscribers to this channel,yet so few are willing to fully embrace socialism/communism. You all must understand that a planned economy is the only way forward when it comes to a fairer society. One not of class. But of equality to all. Men ,women,blacks and whites. Was the USSR perfect? Not by any means. But when you learn how the Soviets where never allowed to fully develop communism and a withering away of the state due to constant outside interference (cold war etc) it helps you see what kind of society Marx envisioned. Parenti is a great starting point.If you watch his lectures on how communism was "overthrown" rather than believing the fallacy that it "collapsed" it helps put into perspective the amount of US and UK antagonism Stalin and his useless successors had to put up with. Then from there actually read Marx and Lenins work. It's an eye opener to what could have been.
Pasha Gayturk Completely subjective. I'm not denying the hysteria around Trump has gotten out of hand. His immigration plan is the least of the world's worries. The media need to be far less dismissive of the inevitable results that will come from his plans for further deregulation of the stock market.Is banning Muslims the end of the world? Probably not. Is allowing the city boys carte blanche to gamble the world's finances in whatever fashion they feel suitable? Almost certainly. What I mean Obama was praised at the beginning almost as much as Trump is vilified today. And I'm sure around the same time Packman could have had someone on his show who's views on some subjects are very accurate yet on others are simply personal opinion and maybe even immoral. So the stance Packmans subscribers take totally depends on general media influence and their own opinion or lack of knowledge on the subject/person that he is interviewing. In short is every opinion he spouts going to resonate with all of us? No. But his stance on the USSR/communism and its fight against imperialism is factual and accurate. I'm not asking people to worship all of Parentis views. Or say the man is a saint. But when it comes to the subject at hand,he's one of the most knowledgeable people around.
You should not lump socialism with communism. I am in favor of a socialistic democracy, where the government runs education, healthcare, military, corrections, with little to no private involvement, but I also know we cannot simply rid ourselves of a free market system, as it has shown so fruitful. That doesn't mean we should continue to allow money to heavily influence the political landscape. Communism? Really? We need another example of a few million deaths before you guys give that up? Communism will never work because every single example of it has shown you can't keep it at the theoretical eutopia Marx envisioned. It always tips over to an authoritarian regime (totalitarian if you look at North Korea) that tramples on free speech -- and forced consensus is never going to be the answer.
80teg Comrade. A few years ago I was in the same boat as yourself. However I did my own research and realized it's impossible to enact social values under a capitalist system. It simply won't work. You can't take profit from healthcare,transportation,mail service etc yet hold moral/social values. A planned economy is the only way forward. Marx's ideals couldn't have been envisioned due to constant outside interference. Withering away of the state? Not possible when you are under the threat of invasion
Mr SmersH poeple like you are so lauph able. replace Marxism or communism with any other fundementalist ideology and the arguments are just the same. if only the big bag ...... didn't interfere our utopia would had worked. your way will never work because of this obscure idea that it can't even though it pritty much is and has bin the only thing to prove itself however imperfect. come on did you really say comrade? lol fucking lol
Fantastic interview so far Edit: I would add that it is the top 10% Not only the top 1% Who have fundamentally different economic interests than the rest of the population (as well as an increasing profit margin unlike the bottom 90% but very much like the top 1%) The ever shrinking middle class and the ever growing working class (Poverty-stricken!) should not be marginalized with the next 9% They conflate the averages and profit margins And I am LOVING the mentioning of class division over identity politics This is magnificent
6:12 Explains so much about what is wrong with American politics. All the current problems in this country can trace their roots back to the reality described in that question and answer.
9:41 dats da equivalent to swimming against a current. U May feel ur making progress or at da very least keeping ur position. All the while drifting further away from ur destination
love mr parenti tho good guy cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye.Peace from Sheffield,Engalnd.Best steel in the world, well used to be.
david were both argentineans but when it comes to politics in the usa i tend to be more for trump since hilldog wanted ww3 but in argentina you are in favor of macri wich is right center and u pretty much had a bad opinion on cfk left center id like to know what you think about peron
everything that guy says it's so true no one ever truly mentions this stuff on the media or even questions it I need this guy literally opened my eyes to how shitty America and the rest of the world really is we truly do need a progressive own government this whole thing has gone on too far and for too long politician should have less power all the more reason to go for Progressive Party Like The Green Party or next elections come we need to put these assholes and their place once and for all
Never heard of him. How did he get the title "noted political scholar?" Why is it a "classical interview?" What is he saying anyways? Seems like he can't reach a conclusion. Which is a lot like you davy.
Dolores Rintoul2 hours ago You never heard of him. OK. Lots of people haven't. Google him, he's got an impressive list of credentials. ~ I too have an impressive list of credentials. I invite davy to interview me.
Jerry Hewes. You're hilarious. I was merely pointing out how ridiculous and smug that response "Never heard of _____" almost always is - whether someone is referring to a musician, a writer or whatever... like, "I'VE never heard of ______, therefore it either doesn't exist, or it must be of no interest or consequence to anyone else." If it is said of you, on the other hand, the phrase "never heard of him" makes sense.
David Pakman: *does a interview with Parenti years ago.*
Also David Pakman: *bashes Socialism years later, the same economic system that Michael Parenti was advocating for.*
Pakman Logic. It's simply a mindboggler.
its all about them views lol, but at least he gave Parenti coverage. Its not much tho I agree and not nearly enough.
he probably also got older and more affluent and shifted. im like parenti iget more radical. but many are the opposite.
It's funny how Parenti resonates so well with the subscribers to this channel,yet so few are willing to fully embrace socialism/communism. You all must understand that a planned economy is the only way forward when it comes to a fairer society. One not of class. But of equality to all. Men ,women,blacks and whites. Was the USSR perfect? Not by any means. But when you learn how the Soviets where never allowed to fully develop communism and a withering away of the state due to constant outside interference (cold war etc) it helps you see what kind of society Marx envisioned. Parenti is a great starting point.If you watch his lectures on how communism was "overthrown" rather than believing the fallacy that it "collapsed" it helps put into perspective the amount of US and UK antagonism Stalin and his useless successors had to put up with. Then from there actually read Marx and Lenins work. It's an eye opener to what could have been.
Pasha Gayturk Completely subjective. I'm not denying the hysteria around Trump has gotten out of hand. His immigration plan is the least of the world's worries. The media need to be far less dismissive of the inevitable results that will come from his plans for further deregulation of the stock market.Is banning Muslims the end of the world? Probably not. Is allowing the city boys carte blanche to gamble the world's finances in whatever fashion they feel suitable? Almost certainly. What I mean Obama was praised at the beginning almost as much as Trump is vilified today. And I'm sure around the same time Packman could have had someone on his show who's views on some subjects are very accurate yet on others are simply personal opinion and maybe even immoral. So the stance Packmans subscribers take totally depends on general media influence and their own opinion or lack of knowledge on the subject/person that he is interviewing. In short is every opinion he spouts going to resonate with all of us? No. But his stance on the USSR/communism and its fight against imperialism is factual and accurate. I'm not asking people to worship all of Parentis views. Or say the man is a saint. But when it comes to the subject at hand,he's one of the most knowledgeable people around.
a good mixed economy is the best option
You should not lump socialism with communism. I am in favor of a socialistic democracy, where the government runs education, healthcare, military, corrections, with little to no private involvement, but I also know we cannot simply rid ourselves of a free market system, as it has shown so fruitful. That doesn't mean we should continue to allow money to heavily influence the political landscape.
Communism? Really? We need another example of a few million deaths before you guys give that up? Communism will never work because every single example of it has shown you can't keep it at the theoretical eutopia Marx envisioned. It always tips over to an authoritarian regime (totalitarian if you look at North Korea) that tramples on free speech -- and forced consensus is never going to be the answer.
80teg Comrade. A few years ago I was in the same boat as yourself. However I did my own research and realized it's impossible to enact social values under a capitalist system. It simply won't work. You can't take profit from healthcare,transportation,mail service etc yet hold moral/social values. A planned economy is the only way forward. Marx's ideals couldn't have been envisioned due to constant outside interference. Withering away of the state? Not possible when you are under the threat of invasion
Mr SmersH
poeple like you are so lauph able.
replace Marxism or communism with any other fundementalist ideology and the arguments are just the same.
if only the big bag ...... didn't interfere our utopia would had worked.
your way will never work because of this obscure idea that it can't even though it pritty much is and has bin the only thing to prove itself however imperfect.
come on did you really say comrade? lol fucking lol
Parenti is the GOAT. This man..I have no words to express my gratitude for his work
The irony is Pakman defends the establishment lol
Fantastic interview so far
Edit:
I would add that it is the top 10%
Not only the top 1%
Who have fundamentally different economic interests than the rest of the population (as well as an increasing profit margin unlike the bottom 90% but very much like the top 1%)
The ever shrinking middle class and the ever growing working class (Poverty-stricken!) should not be marginalized with the next 9%
They conflate the averages and profit margins
And I am LOVING the mentioning of class division over identity politics
This is magnificent
I concur, one of the best I've seen lately
8 billionaires own as much wealth as 3.6 billion 👈 That name though!!! 😂 I love it! 🔥
Interview with Michael P from January 2013.
OMZ I live for Parenti! Thanks David. I got away from watching you but am glad I've returned to the fold.
6:12 Explains so much about what is wrong with American politics. All the current problems in this country can trace their roots back to the reality described in that question and answer.
Sad to see Pakman didn't learn from Parenti...
M. Parenti for President, 2020 !
Thank you that was great!
Great interview!
Pakman is an infant compared to Parenti. Why did Parenti come on this show.
Maybe this was Pakman before he turned around and bashed Socialism.
9:41 dats da equivalent to swimming against a current. U May feel ur making progress or at da very least keeping ur position. All the while drifting further away from ur destination
love mr parenti tho good guy cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye.Peace from Sheffield,Engalnd.Best steel in the world, well used to be.
David, we need to dismantle corporations! How do we do that?
Damn, wish this was new!
My booooi
david were both argentineans but when it comes to politics in the usa i tend to be more for trump since hilldog wanted ww3 but in argentina you are in favor of macri wich is right center and u pretty much had a bad opinion on cfk left center id like to know what you think about peron
That was a great interview, would be interesting if you had him on again today.
BTW 2013 David was so cute - what happened?? jk ;)
everything that guy says it's so true no one ever truly mentions this stuff on the media or even questions it I need this guy literally opened my eyes to how shitty America and the rest of the world really is we truly do need a progressive own government this whole thing has gone on too far and for too long politician should have less power all the more reason to go for Progressive Party Like The Green Party or next elections come we need to put these assholes and their place once and for all
which tribe mainly controls the media, banks and the education system.anserwrs on postcard plz.Anyone?
Obama Was part also of that imperialism, David, you did not get it?
How were you able to get in contact with him? I've tried to email him before but he seems unreachable.
pakman said the interview was taken in 2013, before he seemingly retired from public life in 2015
@@yo_tengo_una_boca6764 my how the mighty have fallen. I'm talking about Pakman of course.
Parenti forgot to mention the black on white violence crisis.
Never heard of him. How did he get the title "noted political scholar?" Why is it a "classical interview?" What is he saying anyways? Seems like he can't reach a conclusion. Which is a lot like you davy.
Sounds like he blew your mind too hard and you blacked out
You never heard of him. OK. Lots of people haven't. Google him, he's got an impressive list of credentials.
Dolores Rintoul2 hours ago
You never heard of him. OK. Lots of people haven't. Google him, he's got an impressive list of credentials.
~ I too have an impressive list of credentials. I invite davy to interview me.
Jerry Hewes. You're hilarious. I was merely pointing out how ridiculous and smug that response "Never heard of _____" almost always is - whether someone is referring to a musician, a writer or whatever... like, "I'VE never heard of ______, therefore it either doesn't exist, or it must be of no interest or consequence to anyone else." If it is said of you, on the other hand, the phrase "never heard of him" makes sense.
Oh wow before Pakman went full lib he had Parenti on?? In the words of Jesse Lee Peterson: AMAZIN!