Thank you, I was worried that when we got to the more high gain capable amps that there wouldn't be any good heavy music representation. I was worried either it would be ignored or half ass'ed with just cranking the gain on some blues chords like some people do. But you actually got some proper metal tones for this. I was even further blown away to see boosted amp tones on both channels. It's not often to get those in big demo's like these. Please keep up the good work and I hope you can include more metal riffs and boosting into future demos even for amps that aren't built for super high gain.
I have the mk3 and it may have supplanted my old Bogner Ecstasy as my #1. Incredible cleans, I personally really dig the "rock" tones this amp delivers and of course, no other amp will project such a massive soundscape and stay so clear. Lead playing is also awesome and notes stay so thick and just punch out! I will say though, that to get the most out of this beast, you really need to try it with a Diezel front load cab. They really are designed to work as a system. Through my Mesa cab, it sounds awesome, but tightness wise, it is similar to an Uberschall or Reborn recto. Through a Diezel cab, all that huge low end is focused!
dont know why there are neg comments. must not listen to much contemporary metal, this amp kills for that. the in the room sensation of wall of sound this thing puts out is visceral.
Agreed. Hearing clips tells only half the story. Kind of like and SLO, you really to play one at volume to get it. The Herbert also feels really great to play under the fingers: I hesitate to call it stiff, although it is immediate. There is definitely a little bounce/give there. The VH4 is definitely stiffer and obviously the Fryette Pittbull is as well. The Herbert sits somewhere kinda between say, an Uberschall and VH4.
@@joeyperez6993 Absolutely man! The Uberschall is a cool amp, but like you say, its low end can be out of control. Very Recto like in a lot of ways. I have been paring mine exactly like you said, with a tight amp, for years now. Pair an Uber with a Pittbull or a Mark series amp and it just crushes!
Name one serious player that uses this amp? A guitar player, not a low E, drop tuned, 2 string player banging away doing nu metal crap or tool garbage. Its a one trick pony for bubblegum metal. Im sure its well made and built like a tank being a Diezel, but it is what it is.
I have had bogner ultra and now i own VH4 2023 and Herbert MK3. For ultra thick huge tight sound this amp is THE BEST. And if you use an OD its completely insane. I previously had mk1 and for modern metal this version its way better: more tight, evil and clear sound. Even the channel 3 its great for thundering wall of sound palm mutes without overhearing the lows. And the clean channel is the best i have tried in a multi channel high gain.
Great work, dudes. I hope one day soon you'll add a couple more speakers to the mix. Particularly the Celestion Alnico Cream and the Celestion Alnico Gold - both of these will kill any ceramic speakers, any genre, guaranteed! The WGS speakers are also a great alternative to the same old...
Thanks man! There's a Gold in there somewhere, certainly in the 'cleaner' videos and yep an Alnico Cream is also on the (still very long) list of toys we want to try.
Got the chance to play this beast of beast once and discovered high gains on 8 strings at H tuning. What shall I say. If one really is looking for the most devastating earthquake produced by a guitar this one is the sadly not so afordable dream machine. I did not care if it has a good clean or mid gain potential or replicates sounds of past centuries becaus that is definitely not what I was looking for in this session with a definitively 'awful' kind of mindset. But here is what I found out: this amp definitely pushed me thru a door I even did not know being existant. Not the machine to play nearby neighbours because those would potentially be driven to suicide 😂 Bades Ass Amp I ever lugged into!
@@zenamplification 🤣 best comment ever dude! Made my day. I am thinking about writing romanic amp books now 🤣 next time: the Vox 30 cleans it all up...
great demo again guys! Particularly loving the V30's and K85 speakers with this amp. I actually prefer the tones without the boost, for me it takes away some of the signature of the amp's tone. seems to be quite a lot of clipping on several of the speakers - may be something to watch out for on future videos if a setting has changed somewhere!
Yep the K85 is cool, not super popular from what we’ve seen. No clipping on our end, must be a playback issue. What are you listening back on? It’s hot so if it’s a phone or computer speakers you’ll need to turn it down to prevent them distorting.
@@zenamplification I can imagine the headroom of those speakers pairs quite well with the headroom of the amplifier, I can see why Diezel opted for K100’s in a lot of their cabs too. The clipping was while listening on on my studio monitors (amphion+RME ADI-2 PRO FS) - it’s not something that happened for other videos, and only occurred here for certain speakers (T75’s, classic lead, G12m) rather than the whole way through the video. I can check again, but I’m pretty certain about the monitoring chain being robust.
I that style of music, but the opening riff was KILLER! If all the kuckle dragging bands played with a little funk and syncopation, that music would be far more interesting. Don't know who the opening player was with the great guitar but he took a style of music, and tone I otherwise can't stand and made it a kick-ass riff. Kudos to him for being that tasteful! Not too many guys can do that. Very well done!
@@calestorer9390 You’re welcome Cale! Like I said, I can, and often do, get very opinionated with gear demo’s of guys that sit there and chug the whole time on a $4K+ amp, as if there’s no other style of music that exists. RUclips is full of those videos. But, that was a really cool change of pace. You should get some of that recorded (if you haven’t already).
So if you have a Bogner Uberschall, Mezzabarba MZero and Mesa Boogie Mark V, what amp would complement these well? Looking at Diezel Herbert, VH4 and Soldano SLO.
If you're looking for something different maybe a more Marshally voice - Friedman BE, Wizard MC, Bogner XTC etc. Out of the 3 you've listed though, well there isn't a bad choice although the MZero and SLO are pretty similar.
What's that bridge pickup on the John 5 Tele Voya is playing? The caption says it's all stock but I did a search and didn't see any that looked like that. Looks like a Bareknuckle pickup.
…(2) even easier: leave all knobs at 12 , crank the Master till your Cab cant handle tha Volume tight anymore. An if u need More Volume, take a Cab that can stand with this Monster.
@@justinlonghofer I like the mk 1 than mk 3 though I keep both . Mk 1 boosts perfectly like a recto . It’s richer . Mk 3 is tighter natural. I still love mk 1 best . Even over vh4 wich I have as well . Vhx is ok but does not do those amps exactly .I get save money and get a used mk 1 . Still king imo. But any Herbert is great
@@techdeathhippie6319 well I’m mainly an Engl guy and buying my dream amp (Savage 120mk2). So having never heard any Diezel amp in person…I’m currently thinking the VH2. Still on the fence about the VH4. The Herbert is a killer amp from what I see but I think it’s more than I need for the studio
Definately not plexi type at all ... different , It does super high gain stuff great but I think the power tubes should be cookin , the problem is that thing is so loud it would injure children and small animals near its vascinity . I wonder if someone makes a ettenuator strong enough ... lol . nice shops
@@zenamplification how would you say this compares to the soldano slo thinking of letting my slo go for one bought it because they were saying its the king of gain i struggle to get good lowend and gain out of it
@@davehendrix671 Much thicker than the SLO, or most amps for that matter. The Soldano sound is great but feels more like 'old school' high gain to us. If you want something thicker and meaner then yeah Diezel is a good option, or maybe a Mesa Mark series - low end and gain for days. Will be a doing a vid on our MkIII soon!
@@zenamplification thank for the reply im just sick of the whole marshall thing been chasing the perfect marshall tone for years me and a friend of mine to find its not my thing had every one jmps 2203 plexi jcm 2000s jvm410 jubilee 68 plexi they are to loud and lack distortion and lowend in my opinion
We had a MkI about 12 years ago so it's been a while - from memory the MkIII is a bit tighter and brighter, with better cleans. @Techdeath Hippie could answer better, he has both I believe.
Thank you, I was worried that when we got to the more high gain capable amps that there wouldn't be any good heavy music representation.
I was worried either it would be ignored or half ass'ed with just cranking the gain on some blues chords like some people do. But you actually got some proper metal tones for this. I was even further blown away to see boosted amp tones on both channels. It's not often to get those in big demo's like these.
Please keep up the good work and I hope you can include more metal riffs and boosting into future demos even for amps that aren't built for super high gain.
Thanks for checking out the channel \w/
I’m start in’ a band with the 1st two dudes.
The 1st guys an ANIMAL✔️
I have the mk3 and it may have supplanted my old Bogner Ecstasy as my #1. Incredible cleans, I personally really dig the "rock" tones this amp delivers and of course, no other amp will project such a massive soundscape and stay so clear. Lead playing is also awesome and notes stay so thick and just punch out!
I will say though, that to get the most out of this beast, you really need to try it with a Diezel front load cab. They really are designed to work as a system. Through my Mesa cab, it sounds awesome, but tightness wise, it is similar to an Uberschall or Reborn recto. Through a Diezel cab, all that huge low end is focused!
Would love to try a Diezel cab but pretty rare down under, we’ll keep looking though!
Just got the MK III a couple of weeks ago and this was the best and most useful video I've found on this amp. Thanks \m/
Glad it helped!
Was playing the MKII for the first time a religious experience you needed to come down from ?
Ha, pretty much!
My amp of choice, Herbert and EVH are hard to beat for modern metal! Solid playing and great tones🤘🏼
You're a man of fine tastes indeed!
Love this amp so much. That thick but tight low end KILLS
Wasn’t liking that Ibanez until I heard it in a full mix. Surprised how much I liked the Tele.
amazing video
Sick playing and sick tones
dont know why there are neg comments. must not listen to much contemporary metal, this amp kills for that. the in the room sensation of wall of sound this thing puts out is visceral.
Agreed. Hearing clips tells only half the story. Kind of like and SLO, you really to play one at volume to get it. The Herbert also feels really great to play under the fingers: I hesitate to call it stiff, although it is immediate. There is definitely a little bounce/give there. The VH4 is definitely stiffer and obviously the Fryette Pittbull is as well. The Herbert sits somewhere kinda between say, an Uberschall and VH4.
Just personal preference I guess, the Diezel sound isn’t for everyone. Yep in the room it’s pretty amazing and packs a punch!
@@joeyperez6993 Absolutely man! The Uberschall is a cool amp, but like you say, its low end can be out of control. Very Recto like in a lot of ways. I have been paring mine exactly like you said, with a tight amp, for years now. Pair an Uber with a Pittbull or a Mark series amp and it just crushes!
Name one serious player that uses this amp? A guitar player, not a low E, drop tuned, 2 string player banging away doing nu metal crap or tool garbage. Its a one trick pony for bubblegum metal. Im sure its well made and built like a tank being a Diezel, but it is what it is.
@@equalleftrights3130Andy Wood, George Lynch, lots of session players because of the thick leads. It’s a great amplifier
Ya had me at Leon Todd. lol
Love these vids! Each one has been a joy to listen to and read about, thank you!
Thanks for stopping by!
I have had bogner ultra and now i own VH4 2023 and Herbert MK3. For ultra thick huge tight sound this amp is THE BEST. And if you use an OD its completely insane. I previously had mk1 and for modern metal this version its way better: more tight, evil and clear sound. Even the channel 3 its great for thundering wall of sound palm mutes without overhearing the lows. And the clean channel is the best i have tried in a multi channel high gain.
Great job lads! I'm not digging this one as much as I thought I would though. Looking forward to the Jubilee video!
Yeah the Diezel sound isn’t for everyone, quite unique. Jube up soon!
Subbed! Such a great demo and review and amazing playing for showcasing the Herbie amp.
Much appreciated!
Great work, dudes. I hope one day soon you'll add a couple more speakers to the mix. Particularly the Celestion Alnico Cream and the Celestion Alnico Gold - both of these will kill any ceramic speakers, any genre, guaranteed! The WGS speakers are also a great alternative to the same old...
Thanks man! There's a Gold in there somewhere, certainly in the 'cleaner' videos and yep an Alnico Cream is also on the (still very long) list of toys we want to try.
Got the chance to play this beast of beast once and discovered high gains on 8 strings at H tuning. What shall I say. If one really is looking for the most devastating earthquake produced by a guitar this one is the sadly not so afordable dream machine. I did not care if it has a good clean or mid gain potential or replicates sounds of past centuries becaus that is definitely not what I was looking for in this session with a definitively 'awful' kind of mindset. But here is what I found out: this amp definitely pushed me thru a door I even did not know being existant. Not the machine to play nearby neighbours because those would potentially be driven to suicide 😂 Bades Ass Amp I ever lugged into!
Not sure if the genre of romantic novels based on 'boy meets amp, boy falls for amp' is a thing, but if so you should go pro!
@@zenamplification 🤣 best comment ever dude! Made my day. I am thinking about writing romanic amp books now 🤣 next time: the Vox 30 cleans it all up...
great demo again guys! Particularly loving the V30's and K85 speakers with this amp. I actually prefer the tones without the boost, for me it takes away some of the signature of the amp's tone.
seems to be quite a lot of clipping on several of the speakers - may be something to watch out for on future videos if a setting has changed somewhere!
No clipping at my end. Those high gain distorted drop A, drop B etc modern metal guitars just sound like this 🤣.
Yep the K85 is cool, not super popular from what we’ve seen. No clipping on our end, must be a playback issue. What are you listening back on? It’s hot so if it’s a phone or computer speakers you’ll need to turn it down to prevent them distorting.
@@zenamplification I can imagine the headroom of those speakers pairs quite well with the headroom of the amplifier, I can see why Diezel opted for K100’s in a lot of their cabs too.
The clipping was while listening on on my studio monitors (amphion+RME ADI-2 PRO FS) - it’s not something that happened for other videos, and only occurred here for certain speakers (T75’s, classic lead, G12m) rather than the whole way through the video. I can check again, but I’m pretty certain about the monitoring chain being robust.
@@eds4754 Ok thanks Ed, I'll check it out again.
Было бы интересно что скажете о Diezel Hagen в сравнении с ним)))
Chug comparison #1 (James' Fury):
- Wizard MTL: ruclips.net/video/W2spvokbK6M/видео.html
- Diezel VH4:* ruclips.net/video/EaV8AjiupDI/видео.html
- Diezel Herbert:* ruclips.net/video/YLW2WGEODLc/видео.html
- Bogner Uberschall Rev Blue: ruclips.net/video/eoYfea_AT88/видео.html
Chug comparison #2 (Lamb of Zen):
- Wizard MTL: ruclips.net/video/W2spvokbK6M/видео.html
- Diezel VH4:* ruclips.net/video/EaV8AjiupDI/видео.html
- Diezel Herbert:* ruclips.net/video/YLW2WGEODLc/видео.html
- Bogner Uberschall Rev Blue: ruclips.net/video/eoYfea_AT88/видео.html
* Slight clipping of converters or mic pre on the Diezel tracks, unfortunately.
I that style of music, but the opening riff was KILLER! If all the kuckle dragging bands played with a little funk and syncopation, that music would be far more interesting. Don't know who the opening player was with the great guitar but he took a style of music, and tone I otherwise can't stand and made it a kick-ass riff. Kudos to him for being that tasteful! Not too many guys can do that. Very well done!
That's our good friend Cale Storer - yep he brought the punchy riffs with him for sure 🤘🏼
Thanks for the kind words Phil 🙏😊
@@calestorer9390 You’re welcome Cale! Like I said, I can, and often do, get very opinionated with gear demo’s of guys that sit there and chug the whole time on a $4K+ amp, as if there’s no other style of music that exists. RUclips is full of those videos. But, that was a really cool change of pace. You should get some of that recorded (if you haven’t already).
So if you have a Bogner Uberschall, Mezzabarba MZero and Mesa Boogie Mark V, what amp would complement these well? Looking at Diezel Herbert, VH4 and Soldano SLO.
If you're looking for something different maybe a more Marshally voice - Friedman BE, Wizard MC, Bogner XTC etc. Out of the 3 you've listed though, well there isn't a bad choice although the MZero and SLO are pretty similar.
Definitely not for me (too compressed and midrange too tight for my tastes) but it's a beast and I like it better than the Uberschall
I have a Mk 2 no orher amp have so much gain
What's that bridge pickup on the John 5 Tele Voya is playing? The caption says it's all stock but I did a search and didn't see any that looked like that. Looks like a Bareknuckle pickup.
You may be right, I’ll have to check with him.
Bare Knuckle Silo it is!
@@zenamplification thanks!
3:30
Until you prove me wrong this is a RG350 or maybe 450 in the US, but not a 750.
Yeah probably a mistake on our part, that axe was just on loan for the day.
Never mind. Rock on!@@zenamplification
…(2) even easier: leave all knobs at 12 , crank the Master till your Cab cant handle tha Volume tight anymore. An if u need More Volume, take a Cab that can stand with this Monster.
I love this amp . I like my mk 1 better still so I kept both .they are very different to me
Differences? I’m buying one so which one would you recommend? Or maybe the VHX?
@@justinlonghofer I like the mk 1 than mk 3 though I keep both . Mk 1 boosts perfectly like a recto . It’s richer . Mk 3 is tighter natural. I still love mk 1 best . Even over vh4 wich I have as well . Vhx is ok but does not do those amps exactly .I get save money and get a used mk 1 . Still king imo. But any Herbert is great
@@techdeathhippie6319 sounds good man thanks for the feedback
@@justinlonghofer which one you going to get ?
@@techdeathhippie6319 well I’m mainly an Engl guy and buying my dream amp (Savage 120mk2). So having never heard any Diezel amp in person…I’m currently thinking the VH2. Still on the fence about the VH4. The Herbert is a killer amp from what I see but I think it’s more than I need for the studio
Nice amp, just a bit dark. 👍🏻
Definately not plexi type at all ... different , It does super high gain stuff great but I think the power tubes should be cookin , the problem is that thing is so loud it would injure children and small animals near its vascinity . I wonder if someone makes a ettenuator strong enough ... lol . nice shops
exodus kick ass
Agreed!
@@zenamplification how would you say this compares to the soldano slo thinking of letting my slo go for one bought it because they were saying its the king of gain i struggle to get good lowend and gain out of it
@@zenamplification oh and by the way you guys are killing it nice playing
@@davehendrix671 Much thicker than the SLO, or most amps for that matter. The Soldano sound is great but feels more like 'old school' high gain to us. If you want something thicker and meaner then yeah Diezel is a good option, or maybe a Mesa Mark series - low end and gain for days. Will be a doing a vid on our MkIII soon!
@@zenamplification thank for the reply im just sick of the whole marshall thing been chasing the perfect marshall tone for years me and a friend of mine to find its not my thing had every one jmps 2203 plexi jcm 2000s jvm410 jubilee 68 plexi they are to loud and lack distortion and lowend in my opinion
What's the opinion on mk3 vs the earlier ones?
We had a MkI about 12 years ago so it's been a while - from memory the MkIII is a bit tighter and brighter, with better cleans. @Techdeath Hippie could answer better, he has both I believe.
@@joeyperez6993 Wow thanks for this detailed info!!
What tubes were loaded in this Herbert?
JJ's all round, KT77.
@@zenamplification they have started shipping with 6L6s and I am nervous about tonal impacts from that tube
Ours came loaded with 6L6’s and we switched to KT77’s. Fairly subtle difference, and both sound great. I wouldn’t be too concerned, both options rock.
@@zenamplification that’s awesome to know - thanks a lot!!