Really appreciate the honesty here! Pretty insane to see what hype and fomo can do to secondary pricing. Thanks for saving us all from wasting money and panic attacks! Cheers
It was a lot of fun watching you discuss and taste this one. Thanks for biting the bullet for us to see how it is, and it's always hard to bring ourselves down to earth and realize all the great whiskies that are far cheaper. I'd try this one I suppose at a bar!
Thanks Randy! Goes to show that price doesn’t always equate to quality! Feel that way about Willet black bottle (8yr) purple top. Spent $230 for it and I’m disappointed with it every time I go back to it! The high prices and hype with BT will come back to haunt it some day!
Damn. $500 and it's on par with $40-$60 msrp Weller Reserve.....oof! Well atleast you found a silver lining. You def deserve a like for taking that hit. Thanx for vid.
I’ve spent $50-55 on many bottles and $100 once. $500 is way too high. And your review doesn’t do this bottle any real justice either. Appreciate all you do to bring us good true reviews
When I read about this release and saw the sticker price I figured it had to be superb, guess not!! If you haven’t tried Old Emmer Cask Strength, made with: emmer wheat 😮 you won’t be disappointed! Specially at the $50 mark and available at Total Wine throughout DFW. Thanks guys! Cheers!
The reaction to the nose and palate is hilarious! The fact that you are comparing a $500 bottle to a $30 bottle says it all! 🤣 Thanks for the review as I remember Fred Minnick saying this was such an amazing pour… well…. I guess I now know not only more about this bottle but also Fred’s palate…. 😂 Cheers! 🥃
Fred is a friend of the channel. He isn't getting paid. I think he is like me and generally appreciates most well made whiskey. In this case this whiskey is fine, I just don't think you should spend this kind of money to have this experience, if that makes sense.
@@BourbonRealTalk Well, my comment went over about as well as a turd in a punch bowl…. It was meant to be tongue in cheek, not to start a rash of negative comments towards Fred Minnick. But apparently it did not come across that way and I regret that as I would never want to say anything ill about someone who has done so much for the whiskey community. So the humor either didn’t connect or was not seen as such. I will do better in the future to make sure that any attempt at this style of humor.
@@SRVandDtrouble I live in Oregon, we have state ran stores...I pay MSRP for all bottles....Elmer T=$37.95.. Weller's 12 $59.00... Stagg jr $47.95...Blanton's $59.00 E.H Taylor full proof $59.95....So a $60.00 limit works for me. CHEERS!
The unfortunate part is that bars will charge $300-500 for a pour. A fair priced pour should be around $150. And even that, I cannot justify at a bar considering I can buy bottles of many other very high quality whiskies for $150.
The funny thing is, if someone paid the sky high price for a pour at a bar the influence the cost would have on them would probably make them think it was the best whiskey ever 🤣
Good evening! I am not shocked that this was all hype. The marketing train is still hot with certain companies and more power to them for capitalizing on it. I do appreciate the absolute honesty for letting everyone know that the hobbyist would even hate theirselves for getting this. Also, thank you for putting out a great whiskey at an affordable market price! Cheers.
A very fun history on the wheat, I wish they hadn’t spent so much on the packaging to make it so expensive because the juice doesn’t seem worth it. Also, sorry you had to pay so much for it. I wish they had to disclose it was mediocre stuff. But people are gonna wanna keep that hush for secondary
I doubt I’d be dropping the $ for that bottle, but for a chance I was pulled in a raffle and it was available. I do love getting a review like this to help with that unlikely potential future chance.
I considered it, but as I mentioned there is very little oak influence on Daniel Weller. W12 is VERY oaky to me, so I would instantly know which was which and the results would not be useful. Blinding the two that were similar in proof and profile I thought was more instructive.
A lot of the expensive bottles that I have bought to me were not worth that much money. Very good whiskey...yes. Not two or three hundred dollars. Just bought the widow Jane 14 and 15 year today because the girlfriend said that she actually liked it. That's $500 + tax. They are nice to have so long as it's for the right reasons which you guys covered here tonight. Cheers Randy 🥃
There are two green label goats. 6 year and 15 year. There will never be another 15 year like the ones we have released. The 6 year is 100% available, and if your local doesn't have it is is because they have not ordered it or because the wholesaler isn't doing a good job of informing them of what is available. It should be back on Seelbach by the end of the month.
He's distilleries are getting out of hand. Average Rinker cannot afford these kind of prices so thank you for this review I heard nothing but bad things about this bottle.
BT is tired of seeing their bottles they sold for 120 sell for 1,000 when they don't get any of that money. They don't want to increase regular brand line pricing because it would affect demand for when production capacity doubles. That is why they created this new sku to take profits from the secondary market.
Cost... not much more than usual Weller run. Emmer wheat is 3x more than red wheat, the cost of raw materials in whiskey production is quite low. Why the high MSRP... it's capitalism - charge what the market can bear. Considering "secondary" prices are $4k or more, Sazerac under priced themselves.
My theory is BT wants to take profits on their popularity, but can't raise prices on their regular products, but they can't because it would affect demand for when the new production capacity comes online. That is why they are going nuts on the special releases, because that should not affect future demand.
For me personally I can’t justify buying a bottle over $250 unless it’s some really old scotch. Bourbon though……$250 is my max but it’s gotta be something really special/different. Like this bottle…..but not $500. Great thing is we all have your channel and now I know I won’t ever look at this bottle twice lol
It was my pleasure. BT is tired of seeing their bottles they sold for 120 sell for 1,000 when they don't get any of that money. They don't want to increase regular brand line pricing because it would affect demand for when production capacity doubles. That is why they created this new sku to take profits from the secondary market.
It strikes me that BT is usually quite reasonable with their retail prices, despite the outrageous secondary market (from which they don’t directly profit). This seems like an attempt to cash in on the hype… but they might have made a poor choice here. I have to wonder if this might have been a LOT better at a higher proof.
When I first saw this bottle announced I thought cool, another bottle I will never see. Then I saw the price and said it better be really special. Glad I put zero effort into hunting this one.
The very best whisky I've ever had cost me $30. I've had some samples of expensive whiskies, and I've concluded that I've never had anything that, on its merits, was worth more than $100. The most I've ever paid is $58, and it was noticably better than the more expensive samples. Of course that's *my* judgment, and YMMV. 🙂 8:21 It sounds like this bottle isn't worth anywhere near the price.
It depends on why you want it. If it is to taste a whiskey worth$500 you will be disappointed. If you want to use it to create some special memories, and you have the money, maybe.
@@eafarrar Balcones Texas Pot Still Bourbon (though the wua isn't what it was a year ago). I've had samples of Blanton's (the regular and the straight from the barrel) a bottle of E.H. Taylor small batch, a sample of Jack Daniel's 10 year, and some other high priced samples I'd have to look up, and while some have been very good, none have come all the way up to what the Balcones bourbon used to be.
I would buy this bottle purely to consider trading with because buying any bottle of Weller at retail is almost always a “good buy” in the long term. It would be the first bottle I’ve ever bought that I don’t think I would be willing to open. That would hurt my pride a bit 😬
@@BourbonRealTalk oh I wouldn’t sell it or try to make money off it but if it’s “worth” four grand and I can trade it for two BTAC and a Pappy 15 (or similar) I would absolutely do that. I’ve never owned a pappy or BTAC so the ends would justify the means
@@timothysanders4074 On facebook secondary sites. You have to know someone to get it. You need to get involved in the FB whiskey community and make some friends, and someone can invite you.
on the contrary, they're milking the brand name for big $ from suckers that will pay anything to get bottles with their label on it. The ones losing their minds are the ones paying for these.
@sirjcc is right. They can't cash in on their regular brandlines that they have major capacity increases coming for, but they can do LE bottles like this one and take some profits off the FOMO.
Yes. $500 for an average bottle of bourbon is ridiculous. The average bourbon drinker would never spend $500 for a marketing stunt. Campari keeps raising prices for absolutely no reason whatsoever but to inflate profits. Bourbon drinkers will seek other, more fiscally responsible, alcoholic beverages as prices rise to ridiculous levels. The bourbon industry will kill the bourbon boom.
I think you may be a little off in your analysis. Premium whiskey pricing is mostly about the impact on shelve available brand lines. BT didn't raise the prices of premiums because they don't want to kill demand for when production capacity doubles. WT needs to increase premium pricing to prevent the lower tier brands from going on allocation like BT, since they don't have big production capacity increases. BT is tired of seeing their bottles they sold for 120 sell for 1,000 when they don't get any of that money, but as I mentioned they can not increase regular brand line pricing. That is why they created this new sku to take profits from the secondary market.
It was if your purpose in buying is acquiring good tasting liquid for you to consume yourself. If you use your collection the way I do, it is almost impossible to spend too much on an SRP bottle that is popular.
That's incredible to think such a high priced bottle is not much diff from their lower end product. Would still be interesting to try, but ugh. Disappointing for the hobby overall.
$500 for a missing-in-action nose? Please. For $500 there should be nothing but delight to the nose and pallet. If you have to apologize for any aspect of a $500 bottle, it’s the wrong bottle.
It would be nice if BT would stop with all the weird nonsense and just focus on the things everyone wants - that'd be nice. This is purely a collector thing and sadly it happens in a lot of portions of various hobbies.
They can't cash in on their regular brandlines that they have major capacity increases coming for, but they can do LE bottles like this one and take some profits off the FOMO.
Whiskey is weird. Is it worth the money based on flavor...absolutely not! On the contrary, people who have watched this video who know it isn't amazing who have come to my house have been eager to taste it. People still want to taste a bottle that has this much hype attached to it, even when they know it is not amazing. People who have enough resources will still pay a fortune for this bottle to be able to have that experience.
I felt the same way about the Willet 8 year wheated. I wasn’t mad, glad I had the opportunity to try and share it. But definitely a hard pass for me given the chance again
There were 3 bottles I was debating on, Four Gate (Calvin Calab), Rare Perfection 15 year and the Willet. I’ve had the other 2 so I went with Willet. Wish I would have picked up the Four Gate.
You did the right thing, I typically buy higher priced bottles if I find the at msrp, to have the opportunity to try them, and share with friends. The Willet was horrible, one of my favorites so far was the Rare Hare 1953!
The Rare Hare was a good find! Glad you enjoyed it! That’s one I may have sipped at a half oz at a time. My daughters are the only ones that drink bourbon. My youngest is still into doing shots for the buzz and my wife on rare occasion so typically I’m a solo drinker!
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this type episode should be appreciated the most because it saves us money great work
My pleasure!
Really appreciate the honesty here! Pretty insane to see what hype and fomo can do to secondary pricing. Thanks for saving us all from wasting money and panic attacks! Cheers
Glad it was helpful!
It was a lot of fun watching you discuss and taste this one. Thanks for biting the bullet for us to see how it is, and it's always hard to bring ourselves down to earth and realize all the great whiskies that are far cheaper. I'd try this one I suppose at a bar!
I am afraid of what the pour price is, but for the experience it might be worth it depending on how much you have in your bourbon budget.
Glad you guys review bottles like these and give honest opinions so we don’t have to waste our money.
It's a dirty job...🤣
Another great episode. Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts on not bourbon but the market being out of control. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Thank you for letting me know what not to buy. I appreciate it brother 👊🏻🤘🏻🔥
Any time!
Glad you guys got to try it and share!
Sharing is what whiskey is all about!
Thanks Randy! Goes to show that price doesn’t always equate to quality! Feel that way about Willet black bottle (8yr) purple top. Spent $230 for it and I’m disappointed with it every time I go back to it! The high prices and hype with BT will come back to haunt it some day!
I paid 300 out the door at Total Wine and feel the same way
@@Yoursodumbnooffance That’s where I got my bottle at Total Wine in Indianapolis Indiana.
I think that is why they launched a new SKU, so it would not affect the regular brand lines.
Damn. $500 and it's on par with $40-$60 msrp Weller Reserve.....oof! Well atleast you found a silver lining. You def deserve a like for taking that hit. Thanx for vid.
Weller SR is 18 at my local Walmart when they have it
It is a dirty job, but...🤣
Howdy n thanks for saving me $500 bills! Well I have plenty of Weller SR so will enjoy it even more now!
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I’ve spent $50-55 on many bottles and $100 once. $500 is way too high. And your review doesn’t do this bottle any real justice either. Appreciate all you do to bring us good true reviews
My pleasure!
When I read about this release and saw the sticker price I figured it had to be superb, guess not!!
If you haven’t tried Old Emmer Cask Strength, made with: emmer wheat 😮 you won’t be disappointed! Specially at the $50 mark and available at Total Wine throughout DFW. Thanks guys! Cheers!
I will try and find a bottle.
Another great honest review! Thanks for the sacrifice:)
Our pleasure!
I live in SoCal, and have not seen Daniel Weller for under $2500. Good times!
If you pay $2,500 you will either convince yourself it is amazing, or be very upset with your purchase 🤣
The reaction to the nose and palate is hilarious! The fact that you are comparing a $500 bottle to a $30 bottle says it all! 🤣 Thanks for the review as I remember Fred Minnick saying this was such an amazing pour… well…. I guess I now know not only more about this bottle but also Fred’s palate…. 😂 Cheers! 🥃
Yeah, no shade to Fred, but I find my palate is not in line with his.
I stopped watching Minnick, he seems to like almost everything, even stuff that's crap. makes me think he's getting paid behind the scenes
I think if you approached this whiskey expecting it to be light and nuanced you could honestly appreciate it. Plus, everyone's palate is different.
Fred is a friend of the channel. He isn't getting paid. I think he is like me and generally appreciates most well made whiskey. In this case this whiskey is fine, I just don't think you should spend this kind of money to have this experience, if that makes sense.
@@BourbonRealTalk Well, my comment went over about as well as a turd in a punch bowl…. It was meant to be tongue in cheek, not to start a rash of negative comments towards Fred Minnick. But apparently it did not come across that way and I regret that as I would never want to say anything ill about someone who has done so much for the whiskey community. So the humor either didn’t connect or was not seen as such. I will do better in the future to make sure that any attempt at this style of humor.
Great content as always! Appreciate the honesty and opinion!
Our pleasure!
"almost as good as Weller Special Reserve"... the magical point in time where bourbon jumps the 🦈
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Better you than me! I wouldn't even buy at a bar just to try. Great honest feedback!
Understandable!
Always appreciate the honest reviews. Crossing this one off my 2024 hunt list.
My pleasure.
That's a bit above my $60.00 limit...😢😢
Lol my limits around 80 bucks but subject to change for something special
That's awesome hold strong 💪. What are your bottles though cause that's low these days.
That is fair, and as I have said before there is not need to spent a ton to drink great tasting whiskey.
Amen, I paid $70 day after Christmas for a Knob Creek 12 and my wife was not amused LOL
@@SRVandDtrouble I live in Oregon, we have state ran stores...I pay MSRP for all bottles....Elmer T=$37.95.. Weller's 12 $59.00... Stagg jr $47.95...Blanton's $59.00 E.H Taylor full proof $59.95....So a $60.00 limit works for me. CHEERS!
Thank you for the review. I still stick with my early times black top.
I suspect you would like that more side by side.
Glad you guys did this video. Not that I would pay that much for a bottle, but helps me avoid FOMO and making a trade for that. Appreciate it.
Our pleasure!
Only a way to find out. Thanks for taking one for team! #BRTC
It's a dirty job...
Appreciate the honest review and feedback on this one. Nonetheless still an awesome bottle that not many will have the opportunity to try.
Thank you!
A lot of hearts were crushed when folks thought they had the Weller lineup complete and this came out 😆🤷🏻♂️
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I’d like to try a pour if I had the chance, but I wouldn’t pay $500 for that bottle.
The unfortunate part is that bars will charge $300-500 for a pour. A fair priced pour should be around $150. And even that, I cannot justify at a bar considering I can buy bottles of many other very high quality whiskies for $150.
The funny thing is, if someone paid the sky high price for a pour at a bar the influence the cost would have on them would probably make them think it was the best whiskey ever 🤣
Couldn’t believe it when I heard the price tag of this one. Great episode 🐐🥃🐐🥃🐐🥃
Right!
Good evening! I am not shocked that this was all hype. The marketing train is still hot with certain companies and more power to them for capitalizing on it. I do appreciate the absolute honesty for letting everyone know that the hobbyist would even hate theirselves for getting this. Also, thank you for putting out a great whiskey at an affordable market price! Cheers.
Thank you for all the support!
A very fun history on the wheat, I wish they hadn’t spent so much on the packaging to make it so expensive because the juice doesn’t seem worth it. Also, sorry you had to pay so much for it. I wish they had to disclose it was mediocre stuff. But people are gonna wanna keep that hush for secondary
That is what I am there for!
This is a great lesson to try before you buy. Cheers!
Hope you found it helpful!
I doubt I’d be dropping the $ for that bottle, but for a chance I was pulled in a raffle and it was available. I do love getting a review like this to help with that unlikely potential future chance.
That is why I did it!
Great insight as always. If Daniel Weller is 12 years, blind it with Weller 12yr for age comparison.
I considered it, but as I mentioned there is very little oak influence on Daniel Weller. W12 is VERY oaky to me, so I would instantly know which was which and the results would not be useful. Blinding the two that were similar in proof and profile I thought was more instructive.
A lot of the expensive bottles that I have bought to me were not worth that much money. Very good whiskey...yes. Not two or three hundred dollars. Just bought the widow Jane 14 and 15 year today because the girlfriend said that she actually liked it. That's $500 + tax. They are nice to have so long as it's for the right reasons which you guys covered here tonight. Cheers Randy 🥃
Exactly!
My limit is 125 a bottle. I freaked out when I bought my Eric Church bottle. Nice looking bottle though.
Everyone has their bottle limit 🤣
When will we see more of your green label goat bottles available? I have only ever been able to get one.
There are two green label goats. 6 year and 15 year. There will never be another 15 year like the ones we have released. The 6 year is 100% available, and if your local doesn't have it is is because they have not ordered it or because the wholesaler isn't doing a good job of informing them of what is available. It should be back on Seelbach by the end of the month.
He's distilleries are getting out of hand. Average Rinker cannot afford these kind of prices so thank you for this review I heard nothing but bad things about this bottle.
BT is tired of seeing their bottles they sold for 120 sell for 1,000 when they don't get any of that money. They don't want to increase regular brand line pricing because it would affect demand for when production capacity doubles. That is why they created this new sku to take profits from the secondary market.
500 for the bottle. Low proof. Gimmick Bottle.
Thank you for the honest review.
Our pleasure!
I’m curious what the cost to produce that whiskey was, and why such a high msrp.
Cost... not much more than usual Weller run. Emmer wheat is 3x more than red wheat, the cost of raw materials in whiskey production is quite low. Why the high MSRP... it's capitalism - charge what the market can bear. Considering "secondary" prices are $4k or more, Sazerac under priced themselves.
My theory is BT wants to take profits on their popularity, but can't raise prices on their regular products, but they can't because it would affect demand for when the new production capacity comes online. That is why they are going nuts on the special releases, because that should not affect future demand.
It is good to know that something that expensive is for those who have a big budget.
Yeah, I don't want anyone spending a chunk in this and being disappointed
Glad I got to try that whiskey with yourself, because it really in my opinion is not worth the MSRP, & definitely not 2ndry! Cheers y’all!
Cheers!
Hate to say I wouldn’t buy it, but if I saw it at msrp i would buy it. But that will never happen. Fun video guys.
As we said, if you have the resources it is a neat bottle to have.
For me personally I can’t justify buying a bottle over $250 unless it’s some really old scotch. Bourbon though……$250 is my max but it’s gotta be something really special/different. Like this bottle…..but not $500.
Great thing is we all have your channel and now I know I won’t ever look at this bottle twice lol
Unless you have massive resources, you shouldn't
BT did release an experimental edition this year didn’t they?
Not sure. I know there was a lot of BTEC a few years ago.
Great video to help others stop the fomo
Let's hope so
Thanks again for the video and the sacrifice of spending $500 so we don't have to.
🤣 It is a dirty job, but someone has to do it!
Yes - did enjoy it as unique - but not that unique
Just too expensive.
I love watching other people spend money. 😂always love the history lessons
It is a dirty job, but someone has to do it. At least for me it is tax deductible.
Yeah for what you guys said that's a definite pass unless I knew someone that wanted to trade some bottles I want for it
I get it! Cheers!
Finally someone tries this bottle. Buffalo Trace has no shame.
It was my pleasure. BT is tired of seeing their bottles they sold for 120 sell for 1,000 when they don't get any of that money. They don't want to increase regular brand line pricing because it would affect demand for when production capacity doubles. That is why they created this new sku to take profits from the secondary market.
paying 500 is bad but still better than the clowns paying 2500 on secondary
Don't get it twisted, and am also a clown, but I try to put my act to public use 🤣
Insane price. Thanks for the review though!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Experimental still comes out
Cool. I remember seeing rows of them a few years ago. Not sure what the release process was for BTECs.
Compared to green label! Wild! Thanks for saving me money. Lol
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It strikes me that BT is usually quite reasonable with their retail prices, despite the outrageous secondary market (from which they don’t directly profit). This seems like an attempt to cash in on the hype… but they might have made a poor choice here. I have to wonder if this might have been a LOT better at a higher proof.
I think that is why they launched a new SKU, so it would not affect the regular brand lines. It would have been much better at a higher proof!
Not the biggest fan of wheaters, but this would be SUPER disappointing at MSRP. It would be a pass for me even at a bar pour.
The bar price will be astronomical on this one!
When I first saw this bottle announced I thought cool, another bottle I will never see. Then I saw the price and said it better be really special. Glad I put zero effort into hunting this one.
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One of the world's greatest hype bottle😅!
Fair
I can create way more memories with $500 than with a bottle of mid whiskey
Not when you are sharing it with whiskey nerds friends who put a lot of value on trying it.
@@BourbonRealTalk the only memory gained is this was a huge cash grab by Buffalo Trace. There is absolutely nothing special about this bottle.
Thanks for taking the hit. Another hyped bottle I won't be buying. 🙂And that would be magnetic north, not true north.
Sorry, I was never a boy scout🤣
😆 Ha!
The very best whisky I've ever had cost me $30. I've had some samples of expensive whiskies, and I've concluded that I've never had anything that, on its merits, was worth more than $100. The most I've ever paid is $58, and it was noticably better than the more expensive samples. Of course that's *my* judgment, and YMMV. 🙂
8:21 It sounds like this bottle isn't worth anywhere near the price.
Curious what that "best ever" was and what else it beats out -- leaving a lot on the table if you're eschewing stuff into the $100 range...
It depends on why you want it. If it is to taste a whiskey worth$500 you will be disappointed. If you want to use it to create some special memories, and you have the money, maybe.
@@eafarrar Balcones Texas Pot Still Bourbon (though the wua isn't what it was a year ago). I've had samples of Blanton's (the regular and the straight from the barrel) a bottle of E.H. Taylor small batch, a sample of Jack Daniel's 10 year, and some other high priced samples I'd have to look up, and while some have been very good, none have come all the way up to what the Balcones bourbon used to be.
@@WhiskyForBeginners I think you're in a distinct minority there, but that's why whiskey is awesome. Something for everyone. Haha. 😋
I couldn’t spend that much
And you shouldn't 🤣
I would buy this bottle purely to consider trading with because buying any bottle of Weller at retail is almost always a “good buy” in the long term. It would be the first bottle I’ve ever bought that I don’t think I would be willing to open. That would hurt my pride a bit 😬
Just leave it for someone who will open it. There are better ways to make money to get good bottles you will drink.
@@BourbonRealTalk oh I wouldn’t sell it or try to make money off it but if it’s “worth” four grand and I can trade it for two BTAC and a Pappy 15 (or similar) I would absolutely do that. I’ve never owned a pappy or BTAC so the ends would justify the means
@@Bergkampgunner Understandable!
Where do people trade bourbon. I’m interested in that? Sounds like a ton of fun.
@@timothysanders4074 On facebook secondary sites. You have to know someone to get it. You need to get involved in the FB whiskey community and make some friends, and someone can invite you.
Never would of
Thought!
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IDK what secondary page that guy is on but Emmer is running 2.5 not 4.
He wasn't on a secondary page. Looking at online retailers from a google search. If you google Daniel Weller Emmer for sale you will see it.
Thanks for the clarification! :D@@BourbonRealTalk
Buffalo Trace may be losing their mind.
on the contrary, they're milking the brand name for big $ from suckers that will pay anything to get bottles with their label on it. The ones losing their minds are the ones paying for these.
Hey, I resemble that statement 🤣
@sirjcc is right. They can't cash in on their regular brandlines that they have major capacity increases coming for, but they can do LE bottles like this one and take some profits off the FOMO.
Yes. $500 for an average bottle of bourbon is ridiculous. The average bourbon drinker would never spend $500 for a marketing stunt. Campari keeps raising prices for absolutely no reason whatsoever but to inflate profits. Bourbon drinkers will seek other, more fiscally responsible, alcoholic beverages as prices rise to ridiculous levels. The bourbon industry will kill the bourbon boom.
I think you may be a little off in your analysis. Premium whiskey pricing is mostly about the impact on shelve available brand lines. BT didn't raise the prices of premiums because they don't want to kill demand for when production capacity doubles. WT needs to increase premium pricing to prevent the lower tier brands from going on allocation like BT, since they don't have big production capacity increases. BT is tired of seeing their bottles they sold for 120 sell for 1,000 when they don't get any of that money, but as I mentioned they can not increase regular brand line pricing. That is why they created this new sku to take profits from the secondary market.
Thanks for the review... confirming a hard pass! 😆
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Lol randy sounds hammered a bit
Not hammered, but we did film 11 episodes that day.
@BourbonRealTalk lol i figured thats what it was hopefully was a fun day
Personally $500 is crazy for a single bottle
Agreed!
secondary is around 2200, nowhere near 4250...
He was looking at online retailers on the fly. Thanks for the update.
Wow. $500 94 proof 11 years. You seem underwhelmed. 😅
A bit 🤣
Seems like a waste of money IMO - thanks for the review!
It was if your purpose in buying is acquiring good tasting liquid for you to consume yourself. If you use your collection the way I do, it is almost impossible to spend too much on an SRP bottle that is popular.
That's incredible to think such a high priced bottle is not much diff from their lower end product. Would still be interesting to try, but ugh. Disappointing for the hobby overall.
Don't lose heart. There is plenty of great whiskey out there at an affordable price. The fun in the journey is finding it.
Yikes that's a pricey meatball.
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$500 for a missing-in-action nose? Please. For $500 there should be nothing but delight to the nose and pallet.
If you have to apologize for any aspect of a $500 bottle, it’s the wrong bottle.
Fair
YES! Most definitely 🥴
I can be pretty stupid 🤣
Awesome😊
Thanks 🤗
Hard pass 😄don't even have to taste it
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It would be nice if BT would stop with all the weird nonsense and just focus on the things everyone wants - that'd be nice. This is purely a collector thing and sadly it happens in a lot of portions of various hobbies.
They can't cash in on their regular brandlines that they have major capacity increases coming for, but they can do LE bottles like this one and take some profits off the FOMO.
Your money so do whatever you want w it.
Yep! Cheers!
YES!
Cheers!
Yep 🥔💨
I can be pretty stupid. Thanks for watching!
You do you for me hard pass. Regardless of what it is or how good.
That is fair. everyone's budget is different.
yes i would say you overpaid for this.
Agreed
Not when you can flip it for 2k lol
🤣 Yeah, but I can't flip them because I am part of the producer tier and I have a contract with the retailer that I have to open it and review it.
For a score of 60, isnt that an easy pass? Not buying this at all
Whiskey is weird. Is it worth the money based on flavor...absolutely not! On the contrary, people who have watched this video who know it isn't amazing who have come to my house have been eager to taste it. People still want to taste a bottle that has this much hype attached to it, even when they know it is not amazing. People who have enough resources will still pay a fortune for this bottle to be able to have that experience.
@@BourbonRealTalk it's not only with whiskey with wine, vodka, cognac but I see what you are saying , thanks for the reply!
That's disappointing lol
Imaging if you had bought the bottle 🤣
Yikes
Yep🤣 Thanks for watching!
37👍
Cheers!
I felt the same way about the Willet 8 year wheated. I wasn’t mad, glad I had the opportunity to try and share it. But definitely a hard pass for me given the chance again
I'm feeling better about passing on one for $265 over the weekend
There were 3 bottles I was debating on, Four Gate (Calvin Calab), Rare Perfection 15 year and the Willet. I’ve had the other 2 so I went with Willet. Wish I would have picked up the Four Gate.
You did the right thing, I typically buy higher priced bottles if I find the at msrp, to have the opportunity to try them, and share with friends. The Willet was horrible, one of my favorites so far was the Rare Hare 1953!
The Rare Hare was a good find! Glad you enjoyed it! That’s one I may have sipped at a half oz at a time. My daughters are the only ones that drink bourbon. My youngest is still into doing shots for the buzz and my wife on rare occasion so typically I’m a solo drinker!
This one is definitely a one time buy.
Goody Goody 🦾🦾🦾🦾
Little elm #16 🎉
Hell yeah!