I knew about linear images and tonal ranges, but i never knew you could extend the histogram window to see whats missing, so much knowledge into 1 hour, thanks for sharing these with us.
I also create lut for my images. I’m trying to match neutral tone and to clean destructive color tones. I watched how photographers use curves and histogram, But you tonal range method is compilation of all that knowledge and I get it finally) thanks a lot
Super happy to hear that! There are 4 more lessons on color in the whole training if you like this topic (setting up contrast included). You can buy the training in case you want an instant access and some exclusive perks (Link in description)
@@maksphilippov8054 I think it's not, we had a similar issue before, but you can ask a friend to buy it and type your email. When the transaction goes through, you will just log in and all should be working.
hi I love your series and one thing I would like to ask is at what stage of the process should we adjust the tonal ranges? At the beginning or at the end ? It doesn't make sense to adjust them in the beginning because we don't really have any color in the scene and if we adjust the tonal ranges at the end we might have to go back and adjust a lot of the things in the scene like materials etc. so please suggest a sweet spot to adjust these tonal ranges.
Thank you! There's a lesson about contrast and we elaborate on it, but there's a moment when you apply the depth when it makes sense. You can start checking it on just as a habit from this point on
We haven't come across this way before, and it seems counterintuitive. Either way, we just did some tests, and they have minor differences between them. Just to make sure you know, the most essential part of this lesson is to look at and analyze b&w images in the first place. Many artists need to become more familiar with breaking down the image in that regard, and that's a game changer when you start to do it. You're covered as long as you don't commit many mistakes in black-and-white areas and keep the tonal ranges in mind.
@@CommonPoint I encourage you to use desaturation in color layer mode as in some cases the difference is massive, especially for foliage. Compared to normal mode you can easily feel that normal mode is affecting contrast, which is definitely not desirable in this case 😊
@@bartzt I second that. The information on values coming from the Black and White adjustment layer in Normal mode give back a result that is influenced by the luminance sliders in the adjustment properties. If you want proper values, you either use Black and White in Color blending mode or use the Channel Mixer adjustment in Monochrome mode.
b&w lut is included in the full training. More info about it in the link below: thecommonpoint.com/training But if you want, you can create a b&w lut yourself. It's nothing more than a black and white adjustment layer in photoshop exported to a cube file. Hope it helps!
The full range of color is transformed from wide range to a more narrow range. Corona uses different curve modifications for different tone mappings you choose
It is attached to the full training (more info in the description), but you can create it yourself. It's nothing more than Black& White Adjustment layer exported to cube file
@@CommonPoint ok thanks, I used to make LUT's by myself for each and every image that I create. But for that LUT first need a base as shown in JL Tutorials. So i thought the BW LUT is bound only to this image. Thanks! Did you set the BW Adjustmenlayer in PS to "color" in Blending mode? I thought this is the only right way to get correct light value results...? thanks in advance!
@@L30nHbl it's just a black and white adjustment layer exported to cube. We have an 1h long lesson about the luts as one of the future lessons. More info on thecommonpointcom/training in case you want to buy an instant access
I knew about linear images and tonal ranges, but i never knew you could extend the histogram window to see whats missing, so much knowledge into 1 hour, thanks for sharing these with us.
I love how you explain, you are like a doctor how examine very carefully the image, It's very helpful, Thank you
So much knowledge in 1 hour, amazing, guys!!!
I also create lut for my images. I’m trying to match neutral tone and to clean destructive color tones. I watched how photographers use curves and histogram, But you tonal range method is compilation of all that knowledge and I get it finally) thanks a lot
Super happy to hear that! There are 4 more lessons on color in the whole training if you like this topic (setting up contrast included). You can buy the training in case you want an instant access and some exclusive perks (Link in description)
@@CommonPoint is it available to buy it from Russia?
@@maksphilippov8054 I think it's not, we had a similar issue before, but you can ask a friend to buy it and type your email. When the transaction goes through, you will just log in and all should be working.
hi I love your series and one thing I would like to ask is at what stage of the process should we adjust the tonal ranges? At the beginning or at the end ? It doesn't make sense to adjust them in the beginning because we don't really have any color in the scene and if we adjust the tonal ranges at the end we might have to go back and adjust a lot of the things in the scene like materials etc. so please suggest a sweet spot to adjust these tonal ranges.
Thank you! There's a lesson about contrast and we elaborate on it, but there's a moment when you apply the depth when it makes sense. You can start checking it on just as a habit from this point on
Shouldn't black&white adjustment layer be used in Color mode?
We haven't come across this way before, and it seems counterintuitive. Either way, we just did some tests, and they have minor differences between them. Just to make sure you know, the most essential part of this lesson is to look at and analyze b&w images in the first place. Many artists need to become more familiar with breaking down the image in that regard, and that's a game changer when you start to do it. You're covered as long as you don't commit many mistakes in black-and-white areas and keep the tonal ranges in mind.
@@CommonPoint I encourage you to use desaturation in color layer mode as in some cases the difference is massive, especially for foliage. Compared to normal mode you can easily feel that normal mode is affecting contrast, which is definitely not desirable in this case 😊
@@bartzt I second that. The information on values coming from the Black and White adjustment layer in Normal mode give back a result that is influenced by the luminance sliders in the adjustment properties. If you want proper values, you either use Black and White in Color blending mode or use the Channel Mixer adjustment in Monochrome mode.
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Hello, the training was excellent
Where can I download a black and white LUT question?
Thank you! It's attached to the full training if you decide to grab one. More info in the description link.
Thank you Bartosz and Artur,
where i will get this LUT ?
b&w lut is included in the full training. More info about it in the link below:
thecommonpoint.com/training
But if you want, you can create a b&w lut yourself. It's nothing more than a black and white adjustment layer in photoshop exported to a cube file. Hope it helps!
Hello, when I add "Curves" to my Tone Mapping, there is no 'Editor' option. How can I fix this please?
It's been modified in the new corona, but you can see the histogram in the background
Thanks for answering! Yes i see, but it isn't possible to click on the histogram window and scroll back to see the wider range of colors?
@@thomasvanwelden3454 I think not in the latest version, but it's there
The right side ta the curves display is fully converted to white, what about the upper side ta the marking line?
The full range of color is transformed from wide range to a more narrow range. Corona uses different curve modifications for different tone mappings you choose
where can I find the black and white lut file? I found some online but how do I know if it is the correct one that used in this tutorial
It is attached to the full training (more info in the description), but you can create it yourself. It's nothing more than Black& White Adjustment layer exported to cube file
can the LUT also be applied to other images? or is it just specific to the image?
You can use B&W lut to check any image
@@CommonPoint ok thanks, I used to make LUT's by myself for each and every image that I create. But for that LUT first need a base as shown in JL Tutorials. So i thought the BW LUT is bound only to this image. Thanks!
Did you set the BW Adjustmenlayer in PS to "color" in Blending mode? I thought this is the only right way to get correct light value results...? thanks in advance!
@@L30nHbl it's just a black and white adjustment layer exported to cube. We have an 1h long lesson about the luts as one of the future lessons. More info on thecommonpointcom/training in case you want to buy an instant access
The lesson is excellent! Thank you very much ! But what happened with your English? There are a lot of mistakes here((