I started with the 6" freak kit. I originally had the aluminum inserts. I was pulling out the 685 in favor of 682 and dropped it right on a rock. The edge of the insert was bent in form a 3 foot drop. I later got the 6" stainless inserts. Dropping them was never a problem. I'd personally get the stainless kit for durability. The better internal polishing and lower friction coefficient of stainless vs anodizing on aluminum is a really small difference. You'll turn up your velocity juuust slightly to accommodate this frictional loss. Weight...on an assembled gun with a full loader...stainless vs aluminum...never going to matter. You buy stainless inserts becasue they are durable...no other reason really matters.
I have the HK Army Lazr kit 8 inch bore set, I have the Freak 5 inch bore master kit, I just picked up the freak XL barrel on my Shocker CVO I'd get the stainless set just for the difference in bore size alone I don't care of weight but that bore size does mater so to have both is a good thing !
I have the aluminum kit and I love it. No issues so far. Been playing for about 3-6 months with it. As far as the accuracy you can always adjust the manual dwell for accuracy honing.
Agree to disagree. At the end of the day they both achieve the same goal with one not being any better than the other. The honing “tolerances” equating to perceived accuracy is totally dependent on the quality of the paint. Let’s not forget we’re shooting a round projectile out of a smooth bore, not a bullet out of a rifled barrel. Inconsistencies in paint will always be more apparent and pronounced than any inconsistencies in the machining in either one of these inserts. A paintball isn’t going to wear out the aluminum insert any more than the steel to the point you’re going to truly notice a drop in performance. If that was truly the case they would only make them in steel. Also, if an ounce isn’t that noticeable in weight it’s not going to be any more noticeable when “aiding in recoil”. If someone suffers on basic recoil control on a paintball gun they clearly need more practice and training because one ounce isn’t going to make a difference. Don’t get me wrong, quality gear aids in performance, but at the end of the day understanding and mastering the basics and properly executing them is what matters. To each their own though!
Well thanks to this review there's no sense in buying the ninja super light tank, is only one ounce lighter then the regular carbon fiber tank...lol thx
Modern-day precision machining will get both materials for inserts spot on in tolerances. Modern-day measurement can get even more precise then .001 lol 😆 so that is not a good reason lol also the aluminum is a great insert and i can feel the difference in a ounce lol
Don't forget putting it in and out all the time. I bought the aluminum one and the inserts do not fit inside the barrel correctly so make sure you buy in store and test each insert into the back of the barrel
The only best one is the price that he said and why not get the aluminum it's color coded and can or made not match your paintball gun and also it's cheaper when it does the same job as the stainless steel inserts
An ounce sure slows me down. Then again I shouldn’t smoke an ounce before playing.
TheGanja Farmer challenge accepted 🤣🤣🤣
Can we please have top markers of the decade
“You can’t tell the difference between an once.” “Look in my hand I can absolutely tell a difference from an once” lol
I started with the 6" freak kit. I originally had the aluminum inserts. I was pulling out the 685 in favor of 682 and dropped it right on a rock. The edge of the insert was bent in form a 3 foot drop. I later got the 6" stainless inserts. Dropping them was never a problem. I'd personally get the stainless kit for durability. The better internal polishing and lower friction coefficient of stainless vs anodizing on aluminum is a really small difference. You'll turn up your velocity juuust slightly to accommodate this frictional loss. Weight...on an assembled gun with a full loader...stainless vs aluminum...never going to matter. You buy stainless inserts becasue they are durable...no other reason really matters.
I like all the different colors..🙌🙌🙌
Stainless lower friction and higher machining tolerances. The best benefit though is durability. Can't crush or scratch them easy
I have the HK Army Lazr kit 8 inch bore set, I have the Freak 5 inch bore master kit, I just picked up the freak XL barrel on my Shocker CVO I'd get the stainless set just for the difference in bore size alone I don't care of weight but that bore size does mater so to have both is a good thing !
Number 2 he acts like the aluminum kit will just snap off when it's in your gear bag
Compelling reasons. Just bought the kit for my new Luxe X (Acid Wash Special Edition)
If I had a cookie I’d give it to you.
im new to paintball and im looking forward to buying the luxe X. where can I buy one is it online or in store??
Literally the difference is an ounce Tony. ;)
Loved the intro!
I’m surprised that nobody covers the fact that aluminum will expand and contract much quicker than steel when exposed to temperature changes.
What about carbon fiber barrels?
i'd Buy the stainless steel ones....... if they color coded them like the aluminum ones :D
I have the aluminum kit and I love it. No issues so far. Been playing for about 3-6 months with it. As far as the accuracy you can always adjust the manual dwell for accuracy honing.
Dwell doesn’t impact accuracy at all. Please don’t spread misinformation.
Please explain how adjusting the dwell would do anything for accuracy? 😂
Should I get one of these for a mini gs?
Agree to disagree. At the end of the day they both achieve the same goal with one not being any better than the other. The honing “tolerances” equating to perceived accuracy is totally dependent on the quality of the paint. Let’s not forget we’re shooting a round projectile out of a smooth bore, not a bullet out of a rifled barrel. Inconsistencies in paint will always be more apparent and pronounced than any inconsistencies in the machining in either one of these inserts. A paintball isn’t going to wear out the aluminum insert any more than the steel to the point you’re going to truly notice a drop in performance. If that was truly the case they would only make them in steel. Also, if an ounce isn’t that noticeable in weight it’s not going to be any more noticeable when “aiding in recoil”. If someone suffers on basic recoil control on a paintball gun they clearly need more practice and training because one ounce isn’t going to make a difference. Don’t get me wrong, quality gear aids in performance, but at the end of the day understanding and mastering the basics and properly executing them is what matters.
To each their own though!
Yes the stainless steal is more durable but all my bore sizes are still very true
I did not hear any reason to spend 50 extra dollars?
Nice intro, keep up the good work
Honestly I like both I just like stanless steel
It's not like your going to throw your gear bag hard into the ground, like inserts are in a hard case
Well thanks to this review there's no sense in buying the ninja super light tank, is only one ounce lighter then the regular carbon fiber tank...lol thx
They don't fit my new acp tip what gives?
Are the original freak backs the same?
Freak xl or normal freak I have full steel normal freak but wondering if I should upgrade
Number 1 who have come into the shop and said" oh my freak xl inserts are shrinking it's not the same size
LOOOOL
Paid the extra scratch for the steel. Significant weight difference but when you’re playing you don’t notice it.
Modern-day precision machining will get both materials for inserts spot on in tolerances. Modern-day measurement can get even more precise then .001 lol 😆 so that is not a good reason lol also the aluminum is a great insert and i can feel the difference in a ounce lol
Don't forget putting it in and out all the time. I bought the aluminum one and the inserts do not fit inside the barrel correctly so make sure you buy in store and test each insert into the back of the barrel
So when it says like autococker do I need one that says mini gs?
Naw go get a mag, much more reliable and much easier to work on. Oh and yeah they are accurate as hell.
An autococker is a mini gs
6:43 no the price
Reading is Hard!
F incerts regular barrel backs are smoother & less complicated just screw on & your done
I disagree wouldn't it be top heavy or will it even it out with the tank?
The only best one is the price that he said and why not get the aluminum it's color coded and can or made not match your paintball gun and also it's cheaper when it does the same job as the stainless steel inserts
Aluminum is better cuz then you can show off and people will know you got a baller freak kit on your gun
He said the accuracy is better 🤣🤣
Tony has never been the sharpest tool in the shed
Number 4 alright I'll give you that because you always want to make money
This ^^^^^
And the guns are heavy then an once
Number 5 is weak he really said color wise
Number 3 that's weak I think people can carry an ounce on there gun
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They could coat the stainless in coating like nickel teflon or Titanium nitrade to make them even more slick and durable...