Austin Burcham hey Austin, this is awesome. You should do a segment on his groove on Something’s Missing from the John Mayer trio recording. Doing his 16th note high hat groove with killer ghost notes and the phrasing and accents on the kick is killer.
This is one way to look at it, unusual though. I would call this 6/8, subdivisions being 8th notes and swung 8ths instead of swung 16ths (in 4/4). But this depends on the given point of view. Actually I find your 4/4 version refreshing.
man I did not realise drummers were so into their sound but mainly technique, it's a breath of fresh air coming from the guitar world. Drummers deserve all the credit they get.
“I know I can’t recreate Steve’s feel...” Truer words have never been spoken on the internet. His feel is untouchable. He doesn’t play anything that’s technically difficult, but he doesn’t have to. He embodies the line “fills are for thrills but groove pays the bills.”
@@leaveitorsinkit242 subtle placement of certain elements behind or on top of the beat, note length (for example how long the hi-hat bark stays open), playing in the cracks (somewhere between straight and swing), getting an intentional sound out of each hit by striking the drums/cymbals in a specific place and holding the stick a specific way, controlling the dynamics of each limb independently, and much more
@@leaveitorsinkit242 Most competent drummers can play what he plays note for note, but none of them will sound quite like him. His particular mix of technique and subconscious wiring means he divides time in a way that is very musical and consistent, a touch idiosyncratic, very recognizable, and impossible to recreate exactly. 1:10 I mean look at his left hand. Watch Austin's primer on traditional grip, and he'll tell you that is holding the stick way too far back. His thumb is almost at the end of the stick, about a and's breath from the balance point. "You'll get no rebound that way." But you can't argue with the results.
You got the notes right and the technique right....but you missed a very important element here. Steve Jordan was majorly blazed in this, and that has a big effect on groove. He was way baked!
while true, as a smoker myself i think smoking helps you to figure out and feel some grooves a little deeper, but i think it's possible to replicate the feel when you're sober. you just gotta be good at performing different feels regardless of smoking/drinking or not.
@@johnnystickems One need not be high to play amazing drums, for sure. I neither endorse or condemn the use of cannabis for the practicing musician. I sure love smoking out and banging on the kit though. In my experience, it has helped enormously in staying focused and working through things.
Steve Jordan is one of those guys who seems to show up everywhere. Neil Young had him play on his comeback SNL appearance of Rockin in the Free World in '89, and the song never sounded so driving and urgent. Now he's touring with The Rolling Stones following Watts' death. He seems to be one of the top 5 guys of the professional drumming world, and I think his skill is evident even to the layperson, which makes him pretty special in the musical universe.
Imho, Steve Jordan is the greatest drummer since Steve Gadd. It doesn’t matter - how good your technique is, how good you are at crazy time signatures, or how fast you can play ... You simply cannot make a groove sound as good as Jordan. Mad props for including SJ in your “Study the greats” videos, Austin.
Jeffrey Hyder YES YESSS YESSSSSSSS. Thank you. I’m not trying to hate on people, but that’s why it drives me crazy when I hear people talk about how good Tony Royster is. Obviously he’s super talented, but the guy overplays more than any drummer I’ve ever heard. His playing is just fast random noises without any feel or musicality. It’s the exact opposite of what Jordan does.
@Jeffrey Hyder It's not only with drumming. Also with piano/instruments. When people want to show off, they should play slow. Since playing slow is the hardest thing in music.
Man, I sit on the edge of my seat waiting to see what your next creation will be. Absolutly love these videos, your attitude, sound of that fat kit. Ya , the whole package. Keep it coming. Still inspiring this drum student of 43 years..
Steve's playing with John Scofield and even The Blues Brothers is pretty advanced. The Blues Brothers stuff grooves like crazy, and so many killer fills, just right there. I got quite a few insights into drumming playing along to the live record.
High quality stuff man, I love your videos. With groove, it isn’t as elusive a concept to describe as you think. Groove is the consistency of spacing between notes/attack points, and consistency of the sound quality of those attack points relative to each other. Steve’s sound is immense and ultra consistent, it makes you relaxed when you listen to it. Love your stuff man, especially this video which isn’t just a chop fest.
Great job on this, especially how you noticed the details of spacing and feel. Not trying to be critical, but the only thing missing is the sound of Steve's gear; He has some ambient ring on his kick and snare, allowing the BD on 'e' (3rd note of 3 in a row) to sound a tad more accented than the other kick notes. Also his oversized Paiste Hi hats fatten up his sound. Steve has always been the Groovemaster, I want to mention an album he played on - Steve Khan's 'Casa Loco' , hope all you Steve Jordan fans check it out.
I love what you do..know that it's much appreciated...coming back to the drums after 30 some-odd years..youtube is an amazing resource..esp. from contributors such as yourself, austin..many thanks...Joe, Danbury,ct
Austin, I love your studythegreats stuff for a long time. They were hard to me back in the days, but now I start over your videos. About this: I saw this performance long time ago, and never found it again, I tought it was Tonny Williams, so, you know... So thank you, the second is a masterpiece, like Steve Gadd in Los Angeles, where he ,,loose” the third snare beat.
So many good moments in that Steve Jordan video I personally love the floor tom groove he plays about a minute in. For anyone whos never seen that whole video you gotta go watch it.
This is my absolute favorite mic’ed snare sound (pitch, short decay, head tension, and crack) of all drum vids I’ve seen on YT. F’ing AUTHORITATIVE, like a bullwhip! ✌️🤘
Very useful! Only I needed this 40 years before...! An very good example how easy it is on today learn at least anything what you think you have to learning!
Im coming back to this again cus Ive been trippin on Steve Jordan all day. Y'all need to watch the James Brown '82 Letterman performance. That will blow your mind! I also want to say that you don't need weed to lay down thick AF grooves. I love to get blazed and jam, but it doesn't make me a better player...
Jordan is unquestionably one of the greatest masters of the groove ever. That man’s pocket is so deep, if the authorities ever bothered to look, they’d find Jimmy Hoffa.
He also flams off the hi hat(right hand) on to the snare(left hand) on the 2&4 of every bar he grooves. The right hand starts the flam on the hats and left finishes on the snare. Its the Dennis Chambers pocket. You have to be very carful with it because if the timing of the flam is off the groove will be bad for the band, also the snare has to be hit quite hard to disguise the flam. It helps for a cleaner groove. Rim shots help.
Keep these coming Austin! Always enjoyable studying along with these videos. Use them a lot these days when I'm not gigging or trying to improve technique!
Great instruction, between the clean distinct audio of each drum/cymbal, visual, and charts. ...makes learning these almost easy without question to anything out of place or missing. An endeavor considering charting Steve Jordan
what an awesome breakdown Austin, thanks so much! I also think the consistency in volume and tone when SJ hits the snare/HH/kick makes a huge difference in creating groove. I have the impression groove has a lot to do with creating predictability of what comes next, and consistency in sound is very important for that. I see a similar thing in Dennis Chambers, Ash Soan, etc
This is a great exploration of how to learn technique in easy ways for beginners. Glad you made this video. It reminds me of the basic and next level things.
His 16 or 17 " hi hat adds to his sound. His lack of muffling his drums...The Yamaha resonance on these drums, his using rim shots as an East coaster would usually do and his influence by Bernard Purdie all contribute to his stay and sound. When drummers play music they are modeling the style of someone else in their heads.....the way they groove, hit, sound, play, the sticks they use, how they strike their bass drum and live time between it and the backbeats as well as all the well felt dynamics and subtle nuances of the grooves few understand until many years of playing lots of musical styles happens.
That last groove looks like a BAIÃO pattern, a brazilian percussive pattern, adapted for drums, with little perks. Great brazilian musicians, groups and drummers like Luiz Gonzaga, Quarteto Novo and Airto Moreira, are good representants of this gender. Spend some time checking this out really worth.
Hope you guys dig this one! Transcription is available here 👉🏼www.abbdrums.com/steve-jordan
Austin Burcham hey Austin, this is awesome. You should do a segment on his groove on Something’s Missing from the John Mayer trio recording. Doing his 16th note high hat groove with killer ghost notes and the phrasing and accents on the kick is killer.
Legal Austin. Esse aqui seria legal (2:19-2:43): ruclips.net/video/r_yajXrETBs/видео.html
Hey Austin
Could you do some Nate Smith? He’s THE man right now
This is one way to look at it, unusual though. I would call this 6/8, subdivisions being 8th notes and swung 8ths instead of swung 16ths (in 4/4). But this depends on the given point of view. Actually I find your 4/4 version refreshing.
Man you really do a great job on all your videos. Really humbling,
great job.. also, his 38" hi hats help too
38”? That’s huge for a hi hat!
38cm
Oh, it’s cm?
It’s just envisioned a 38” hi hat 😆😆🤣
38 cm would be only 15 inch, I believe he uses minimum a 16 inch or maybe even bigger hi-hat
man I did not realise drummers were so into their sound but mainly technique, it's a breath of fresh air coming from the guitar world. Drummers deserve all the credit they get.
“I know I can’t recreate Steve’s feel...” Truer words have never been spoken on the internet. His feel is untouchable. He doesn’t play anything that’s technically difficult, but he doesn’t have to. He embodies the line “fills are for thrills but groove pays the bills.”
Just what about his feel is untouchable?
@@leaveitorsinkit242 that's like asking what was untouchable about Eddie Van Halen's feel? Some people just have something else goin' on.
@@danielclee1 ….like Bernard Purdie, or the late Melvin Parker, maybe Nikki Glaspie or Adam Deitch? Lots of great feel players.
@@leaveitorsinkit242 subtle placement of certain elements behind or on top of the beat, note length (for example how long the hi-hat bark stays open), playing in the cracks (somewhere between straight and swing), getting an intentional sound out of each hit by striking the drums/cymbals in a specific place and holding the stick a specific way, controlling the dynamics of each limb independently, and much more
@@leaveitorsinkit242 Most competent drummers can play what he plays note for note, but none of them will sound quite like him. His particular mix of technique and subconscious wiring means he divides time in a way that is very musical and consistent, a touch idiosyncratic, very recognizable, and impossible to recreate exactly.
1:10 I mean look at his left hand. Watch Austin's primer on traditional grip, and he'll tell you that is holding the stick way too far back. His thumb is almost at the end of the stick, about a and's breath from the balance point. "You'll get no rebound that way." But you can't argue with the results.
You got the notes right and the technique right....but you missed a very important element here. Steve Jordan was majorly blazed in this, and that has a big effect on groove. He was way baked!
Crazy 8s Drums so Austin’s breakdown was just..half baked..?
🥳🍾🍾 alcohol ans drugs ....
while true, as a smoker myself i think smoking helps you to figure out and feel some grooves a little deeper, but i think it's possible to replicate the feel when you're sober. you just gotta be good at performing different feels regardless of smoking/drinking or not.
@@johnnystickems One need not be high to play amazing drums, for sure. I neither endorse or condemn the use of cannabis for the practicing musician. I sure love smoking out and banging on the kit though. In my experience, it has helped enormously in staying focused and working through things.
@@johnnystickems Youi only have to smoke once to know te feeling and open the door in fact. To be sure I smoke daily.
Can we just appreciate how gorgeous Steve's kit is in the clip?
We can't. Its too gorgeous. We don't have the capacity since we're mere mortals.
Steve Jordan is one of those guys who seems to show up everywhere. Neil Young had him play on his comeback SNL appearance of Rockin in the Free World in '89, and the song never sounded so driving and urgent.
Now he's touring with The Rolling Stones following Watts' death.
He seems to be one of the top 5 guys of the professional drumming world, and I think his skill is evident even to the layperson, which makes him pretty special in the musical universe.
Imho, Steve Jordan is the greatest drummer since Steve Gadd.
It doesn’t matter - how good your technique is, how good you are at crazy time signatures, or how fast you can play ...
You simply cannot make a groove sound as good as Jordan.
Mad props for including SJ in your “Study the greats” videos, Austin.
Jeffrey Hyder YES YESSS YESSSSSSSS.
Thank you.
I’m not trying to hate on people, but that’s why it drives me crazy when I hear people talk about how good Tony Royster is.
Obviously he’s super talented, but the guy overplays more than any drummer I’ve ever heard. His playing is just fast random noises without any feel or musicality. It’s the exact opposite of what Jordan does.
@Jeffrey Hyder It's not only with drumming. Also with piano/instruments. When people want to show off, they should play slow. Since playing slow is the hardest thing in music.
Steve Jordan , is best the best . Funky , jazz , blues . Specialist in funky.
Jordan played with the Blues Brothers. Love him. Great vid.
Love this. Great spotlight here. If you get a chance do some Nate Smith👌🏽🔥🎶🥁
Yes Nate Smith is amazing! I sort of see him as very similar to Steve.
Or Adam Deitch
Its call study the greats not study the aliens.
roromoho ‘study the Nates’...see what I did there. 😂
@@Footballar09 Nate Smith is Steve Jordan on steroids
Great idea covering a groove master like Steve Jordan. Excellent job!
Man, I sit on the edge of my seat waiting to see what your next creation will be. Absolutly love these videos, your attitude, sound of that fat kit. Ya , the whole package. Keep it coming. Still inspiring this drum student of 43 years..
As a 82 year old drummer I’m still learning but I can’t play that shit love it, thanks. I am trying though.
Steve's playing with John Scofield and even The Blues Brothers is pretty advanced. The Blues Brothers stuff grooves like crazy, and so many killer fills, just right there. I got quite a few insights into drumming playing along to the live record.
High quality stuff man, I love your videos.
With groove, it isn’t as elusive a concept to describe as you think. Groove is the consistency of spacing between notes/attack points, and consistency of the sound quality of those attack points relative to each other. Steve’s sound is immense and ultra consistent, it makes you relaxed when you listen to it.
Love your stuff man, especially this video which isn’t just a chop fest.
Steve's ability to groove and play what's needed is incredible. He's not a solo player like Gadd, Coliuta or others, but damn he lays it down!
He can also solo his ass of though
Ive been waiting for a Steve Jordan video!!!
Great one, Austin! This new segment of groove analysis--rather than licks--opens infinite possibilities for this part of your teaching. I dig it.
So much sustain on his kick. Makes a big difference in sound.
Good Work. Thank you. Your snare is priceless!
Great job on this, especially how you noticed the details of spacing and feel. Not trying to be critical, but the only thing missing is the sound of Steve's gear; He has some ambient ring on his kick and snare, allowing the BD on 'e' (3rd note of 3 in a row) to sound a tad more accented than the other kick notes. Also his oversized Paiste Hi hats fatten up his sound. Steve has always been the Groovemaster, I want to mention an album he played on - Steve Khan's 'Casa Loco' , hope all you Steve Jordan fans check it out.
Great video Austin. Please do another video on grooves.
Nice work differentiating the “feel” or laid back swing
Great work. Steve Jordan is one of my favorite drummers. A very difficult job trying to emulate his style and groove. hats off to you.
Awesome. And your kit sounds great, very funky
I love what you do..know that it's much appreciated...coming back to the drums after 30 some-odd years..youtube is an amazing resource..esp. from contributors such as yourself, austin..many thanks...Joe, Danbury,ct
So difficult to illustrate “groove” but you did a great job. Thanks!
Mate; really enjoy these videos. Thank you 🙏🏼 🥁🇦🇺
NICE !!!
The panning camera shot at 1:56... nice dude. Glad to see you back doing what you do best!
Love it. Such pocket feel. Also with the reverb and compression the live recording of Jordan sounds like a DJ Shadow tune lol
Thank you Austin
Groove master ...one of the best .
You did a real nice job on this!! Thanks
Steve is the man. Glad to see you’re still making these after I took a 2 year hiatus from drumming. Got a little catching up to do
Austin, I love your studythegreats stuff for a long time. They were hard to me back in the days, but now I start over your videos. About this: I saw this performance long time ago, and never found it again, I tought it was Tonny Williams, so, you know... So thank you, the second is a masterpiece, like Steve Gadd in Los Angeles, where he ,,loose” the third snare beat.
So many good moments in that Steve Jordan video I personally love the floor tom groove he plays about a minute in. For anyone whos never seen that whole video you gotta go watch it.
This is my absolute favorite mic’ed snare sound (pitch, short decay, head tension, and crack) of all drum vids I’ve seen on YT. F’ing AUTHORITATIVE, like a bullwhip!
✌️🤘
Very useful! Only I needed this 40 years before...! An very good example how easy it is on today learn at least anything what you think you have to learning!
this video really helpt me out finding the right way to drum steves groove
he is a legend!
Faster Faster Faster Faster no!!!!
The Groove is here!!
Austin, you're snare drum speaks to me.
Amazing content as always Austin!!
Im coming back to this again cus Ive been trippin on Steve Jordan all day. Y'all need to watch the James Brown '82 Letterman performance. That will blow your mind! I also want to say that you don't need weed to lay down thick AF grooves. I love to get blazed and jam, but it doesn't make me a better player...
Nice feel
All of these reminded me of Whole Lotta love a bit from Bonham, which is a really hard drum beat to play
And so did Mitch Mitchell in Hey Joe before Bonham which has more swing like Jordan's performance. Bonham isn't the drum Bible.
Your snare sound its awesome!
The straight one is killin too.
Wow.. no complicated chops, just pure groove!!
Jordan is unquestionably one of the greatest masters of the groove ever. That man’s pocket is so deep, if the authorities ever bothered to look, they’d find Jimmy Hoffa.
He also flams off the hi hat(right hand) on to the snare(left hand) on the 2&4 of every bar he grooves. The right hand starts the flam on the hats and left finishes on the snare. Its the Dennis Chambers pocket. You have to be very carful with it because if the timing of the flam is off the groove will be bad for the band, also the snare has to be hit quite hard to disguise the flam. It helps for a cleaner groove. Rim shots help.
Awww yeah. This is one of my all time greatest drum solos
Keep these coming Austin! Always enjoyable studying along with these videos. Use them a lot these days when I'm not gigging or trying to improve technique!
Please do a John Theodore video, that guy is very underrated and have lots of crazy grooves
ABSOLUTELY
Great instruction, between the clean distinct audio of each drum/cymbal, visual, and charts. ...makes learning these almost easy without question to anything out of place or missing. An endeavor considering charting Steve Jordan
So good bro! One of my favorite drummers for sure!
Austin - you’re awesome and an excellent ambassador of the drums... thanks for all you do and your contribution. You rock!
Really like this one! I'm more of a groove guy myself so I much rather dig into feel vs chops. Thank you.
Bro I love this channel its given me alot of ideas on how to improve my playing
You are the best at this!
Groove and feel, great drummer and great lesson!
those 15" high hats that he uses helps, with so much power and swing
Great job! His groove is immense.
Excellent thank you.
Magnificent class.
Great video!! Steve Jordan Is a Groove Machine!!!
Excelent class and tips.
Great analysis
Thank you!
Well done!
dude no one is steve jordan except steve jordan but damn u recreated his groove and power so well such a good video big luv
Love the sound of your drums Austin!
This is a great look inside of these grooves.
Agreed! he swings. Bernard purdy!!😃
Amazing brother
Thank you for this video, keep them coming! They are very helpful. Cheers!
Awesome thank you 😊
Hats sounds incredible
Jesus these highhat openings make it an actual instrument, insane
gracias!!!
what an awesome breakdown Austin, thanks so much!
I also think the consistency in volume and tone when SJ hits the snare/HH/kick makes a huge difference in creating groove. I have the impression groove has a lot to do with creating predictability of what comes next, and consistency in sound is very important for that. I see a similar thing in Dennis Chambers, Ash Soan, etc
Great video!
This is a great exploration of how to learn technique in easy ways for beginners. Glad you made this video. It reminds me of the basic and next level things.
Oh yes, I dig this. You just need two dustbin lids for hi hats and you'll be there.
Awesome, as always! Thanks Austin
Amazing Snare Sound!
nice job Austin!
Love Steve Jordan, two best drummers called Steve:) great video, very good tutorial!
thanks
I always wait for the quintessential "MMM!" in every STG video. Hahaha, love it!
Love your stuff bro!
His 16 or 17 " hi hat adds to his sound. His lack of muffling his drums...The Yamaha resonance on these drums, his using rim shots as an East coaster would usually do and his influence by Bernard Purdie all contribute to his stay and sound. When drummers play music they are modeling the style of someone else in their heads.....the way they groove, hit, sound, play, the sticks they use, how they strike their bass drum and live time between it and the backbeats as well as all the well felt dynamics and subtle nuances of the grooves few understand until many years of playing lots of musical styles happens.
Continue to inspire, create and educate!
Nice work. Killer snare sound!
That last groove looks like a BAIÃO pattern, a brazilian percussive pattern, adapted for drums, with little perks. Great brazilian musicians, groups and drummers like Luiz Gonzaga, Quarteto Novo and Airto Moreira, are good representants of this gender. Spend some time checking this out really worth.
As always...Excellent!
Really great stuff man. Love the more lucid lessons.
thank you Austin for that - greetz from Austria
Great channel.. congratulations for you