Why I Chose the Crossfire
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2019
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This is a great hobby plasma cnc system. If you're wanting to do high volume precision cnc work you may want to look at a larger plasma cnc system. This would be a great starter plasma cnc system to get your feet wet with plasma cnc.
With a big sculptural project just around the corner, I needed to invest in a cnc plasma cutting system. In this video I go through the process of choosing the perfect cnc based on my needs in my shop.
Thanks to Jason at Interactive Realm for letting me come hang out and help assemble his CrossFire / @interactiverealm
And thanks to Chad at Mancrafting for his review and use of the $100 off discount code / bugmanchad
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I think Langmuir is the Ford of CNC Plasma Tables. They are getting us all into a new CNC Plasma Table hobby!
I scored this one with extension,water tray and green plasma machine all for $1k. Both unused. I couldn’t believe it. Definitely a blessing.
Excellent score!
Lol I love how you managed to make me sit through a 3 minute intro without me skipping at all. Nice work
Haha excellent! thanks for sticking it out
I've had one for a while now too. i ditched the wheels. its alot more stable now. I also mounted the electronic enclosure up on a wall. easy to extend the stepper motor cables with standard computer serial cables. i have had water coming over the sides at times so im glad i did that.
Great video with very useful and helpful information. Your marketing guy was the best actor of your team.
Thanks for such a great video with really useful information. My students ask me what they should buy and most of them have a very tight budget. For the last year I've been able to suggest Langmuir but I didn't have very many recommendations. Now I can send them to this video. Your discussion of what you need and what your priorities are is incredibly important. I really hope you do an update in about 6 months or a year. Congratulations on your table and I look forward to seeing what else you create with it.
Thanks Connie, I'm glad that the video was helpful. And because you asked, I'll make sure to do a follow up video after I have the opportunity to get more use out of it on my upcoming projects
Looks good, we were looking, probably go with the 3x4 pro, NICE! Thanks for the info! Like you, we're small potatoes, need it every once-in-awhile, thanks again Doug!
I like your approach to making the purchase.
Your Crossfire video was just what I was looking for I’ve been pricing CNC table systems and haven’t found any affordable systems. Great information.
BTW I really like your youtube series. Thanks
Thanks for watching Chuck glad it helped
Doug , I thought this was a Great Video. I have been interested in a Plasma table , I do have 2 plasma cutting Machines, and after watching your video, its Help me even More .
Thank You , always a Great Video. 😎👍
After the video a follower on IG mentioned Premier CNC right here in Arizona. They also have what's looks like a good option at a reasonable price
Thanks very helpful. It’s the other stuff needed that makes a CNC machine possible. I’m needing to build an area to accommodate the 4x4 one I’m interested in. Thanks not a compliment, that a fact. All said and done. It really is what are you using the machine for. You can’t put a value on service, when a problem comes up. Looking forward to see what you are making.
Thanks Allen. Yeah I considered a 4x4 but just didn't want to loose the real estate in the shop. I'm sure that could change in the future as I start working with cnc begin creating new works
Looks like a nice little machine, especially for the money.
CNC really is a game changer. As a boat builder for over 35 years, I learned how to build stuff by hand - cutting, assembling, fairing, etc. All labor intensive and easily screwed up if you're not paying attention.
For the last 5 or so years, I went from having a vague idea about CNC to programming and cutting things on a 5 axis router. To say I like the new way is a massive understatement. It is the way of the future. I bet you'll find a ton of uses for your machine that you didn't even consider before you got it.
I'm really enjoying this little machine. It's so much more precise compared to the pieced together cnc mutt that I had a couple years ago. It's definitely broadened my slope of capabilities
Thanks for the comments. I will go gor that plasma machine
Go for it! Its done well for me
I really enjoyed the entire process. The "Marketing and Research" phase was COOL!
Thanks Earl! Thanks for checking it out
Thanks for the honest opinion... I have been looking at this table for months!!
I'm pretty pleased with it so far
LowTide Customs check out my video as well. I’ve had mine since November. I’ve been really happy with it. I have a discount code that Doug was able to use. MANCRAFTING
Glad you are happy with the machine and were able to save a Benjamin. I’ve been loving it. I hope you get some real work done with it. Interestingly, some people are actually using it for not only manufacturing, but for car modifications.
Yeah its been great so far!
Good stuff. Mine is being shipped today!
Nice!! Have fun with it!
Thanks Doug , will check the Company Out. 👍
Barry Phil Rush I’ve been really happy with mine. Many projects coming.
Great video! Keep up the great art brother
😊thanks greatly appreciated.
Great video, and informative
Glad it was helpful Justin
I acquired this table for 1k from a guy, it’s the older model but if I chose to do all the additional electrical upgrades it would still be cheaper than a new table. The one I got also had the water table and the software included as well as some well made custom leg braces.
buen video im getting one in the next month
excellent! have fun with it
How do you like that unimig welder I see in the video? I was gonna buy one.
Thanks for the video Doug! Now look at all your new opportunities with this tool. (a bit of workshop envy going on for me here)
I haven't researched this yet, but, can you dial down the settings, use thick material and use the plasma for etching or engraving? (do you or does anyone else know about this?)
I've not tried etching yet however I wanted to make two quick cuts and I just manually jogged the plasma torch but forgot to lower the travel speed and the torch did etch the surface without penetrating. With a few test I bet it could be done
@@ArtfullyRogue thanks for the reply Doug - I did a little googling after i posted that. Here is a link (below) to one company that makes a marking & engraving plasma machine. I did not do much more research though. (it's Sunday night here and a good movie is on). Good luck if you play around with this idea. - www.hypertherm.com/hypertherm/arcwriter/arcwriter/
thanks for the video.. i saw a previous video of you using a bigger plasma table.. what that the one you were talking in the video?
Yes it was. It was a 4x4 cutting area but was really just a bit of a mutt. I bought it off someone that built it themselves
Good video I'm sure that CNC plasma is going to really help out in your shop. Is there a reason that you didn't consider one of the wright CNC plasma machines?
Honestly I researched what came up online. Unfortunately Wright didn't show up. Apparently another one is Premier cnc. They were comparable to the Crossfire and Gotorch
I quickly looked over comments and your comment beneath the video. What plasma cutter did you purchase to complete the machine? I understand from a different video that it is best to choose one that does not have high frequency start, which can cause interference. Hobart manufactures one that has a built in air compressor which can lower the cash layout and free up space - I have no experience with the Hobart cutter and have not researched it. Thanks for posting this video.
I think buying a plasma cnc is such a personal purchase in the sense that it all depends on what you plan to do with it. The Langmuir Crossfire is small but it works perfect for what I'm doing in my shop. If I working cutting parts or designs for mass production its too small to make a ton a profit on. I usually do one off designs as part of larger projects.
@@ArtfullyRogue You didn't answer his question. SMH
I guess I should be more specific for some. I purchased the Langmuir Crossfire which included the ViperCut 30i. Their website has more info and other plasma options
Ok few things first of luv your work force reminds me of all my departmental guys 🤔😆👏👏 seconde do you or have you cut any parts about the gadge and length of a key? I run a company from home and my products are about that size maybe an inch and a half ta 2 inches longer. Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated 🙏
I have cut some small parts. Sometimes its just a matter of making adjustments to the gcode file until you get a clean cut
I spent $6,000 on getting my Go Torch setup. Just a 2'x2' I've never used it. Go Torch (Plasma Cam) would like me to "upgrade" $4,000 before I can actually be able to cut something. I'm in the process of making a controller from scratch to use Mach 3 and Sheetcam to run my Go Torch. Thinking the first thing to cut is a 4 square foot middle finger and shipping it to Plasmacam.
Now that sounds like a good first project. Although I chose the Langmuir, I was slightly disappointed because I also bought the 2x2 table and barely 2 weeks later they came out with a 4x4 for not much more. It would have been nice if they said, hey wait a couple weeks and get a bigger table for a just a few hundred dollars extra.
how is the smell (with water table) in a closed garage for guys just playing at home? does it put off a lot of fumes?
Surprisingly not really having an issue with the smell of the water. The fumes are pretty crazy if you don't have enough water for sure
How has the table worked out for you? Have you had any issues? I just ordered the crossfire pro. Thanks I understand if you dont have time to respond
Its worked out fine actually. I wish I had waited to get the larger version though. They water tray cuts down on smoke but splashes a lot and makes a mess. So I need to modify the sides to be higher than the cut area
Hows that plasma cutter holding up? I was thinking of spending more on a hypertherm, but dont know if I can bring myself to spending that kind of cash for at home use.....
Hi Sean, I've been pretty pleased with it. My only frustration is with the programing I use, which is Fusion360. Just when I get some of it figured out, they make changes and it slows me down again. But the machine itself has been doing fine
Any idea if the simadre 50amp Plasma cutter will work on these tables?
Sorry Danny I'm not sure about that. Maybe contact Langmuir and ask them
@@ArtfullyRogue I sent them an email asking about it. Maybe next week they can get back with me. Thanks for responding to my question!
I'd like to add one correction. The Torchmate is a complete turn-key system. It does include the plasma machine, water table, AHC, and all software needed to design and operate.
Actually the base price covers the table. If you bundle you add the plasma machine. The water table is an add on at an additional cost.
@@ArtfullyRogue I respectfully disagree. You cannot buy a stand-alone table. It is turn-key and includes everything needed to start cutting (except your power, air, and ground of course). Not only is the water-table standard, you cannot buy a 4400 without it (included in the price). They're all built that way. The FlexCut 80 is STANDARD for the 4400 and IS included in the price. You can upgrade the FC 80 to the FC 125 (optional). Here's their number, 775-673-2200, call them Monday and TRY to order a 4400 without it being a water table and not having a power supply (plasma machine). It's not possible. On a lighter note, I still enjoyed watching your video.
My bad, I thought you were talking about the Crossfire as a turn key. I re-read your first comment and now see you're talking about the Torchmate.
in the UK all our power line is 230v as standard
Well that just makes too much sense, as Americans its our job to complicate things :D
Canada and US homes have 220 also. adding a 220 circuit could be as simple as a circuit breaker and receptacle swap.
Dang, torchmate trying to get $25k for their 4'x4' these days... get the F outta here!! I priced them prior to buying my LDR table in 2016 and they were literally half that price! But congrats though on your new setup, cnc plasma is a game changer for metal fabrication!
Yeah it was a must have for a new project I'm working on
Want one 👍
It's been fun so far
👍👍👍👍
Thanks Gib
Doug, I see your" snail mail" address is close to 29th ave and Bell rd, I'm at 35th and Union Hills and we do the same kinda stuff, yours being more art and mine more utilitarian. I'm ready to buy the Crossfire Pro and would really like to sit down and talk...how can we make this happen?
Hello Jon, easiest way would be for you to come to the shop. I'm located at 329 W. Lone Cactus Dr. #5 Phoenix 85027. I'm there most days but text me first at 928 274 2697
@@ArtfullyRogue you are right around the corner from my shop at 330 W. Melinda! I'll let you know before I stop by, I look forward to meeting you, thanks.
My God, I'm in the wrong business if people are actually selling machines like this. This machine can be built by yourself for less than $1000, but with much better linear rails.
However for those of us that lack the knowledge to build our own this was a decent purchase.
i have to say I did a fair amount of research into building my own but the information was too overwhelming. Having this one now I have a better understanding of the parts and could probably build one now
@@ArtfullyRogueIndeed. Sounds like I need to get to work, and then have 50 different RUclipsrs reviewing mine, like they are with the Langmuir. I figured you guys were all getting sample units to try out.
Yeah I wish. I saw a big decline in companies passing out equipment to RUclipsrs last year. Langmuir said they would give me an affiliate code but that never materlized.
Never say you use it again. I hay happened to it ? 3 year reviews?
Basically I grew out of it. I sold it to someone just starting out and have plans to buy a much larger unit in the future. Sorry for not doing update video, family matters changed my focus for a long while
60 gal Compressors a little overkill 😂 i know people with bigger tables using less
Interesting. Not sure how table size impacts compressor size. Compressor size is determined by the type of plasma machine being used. However with my first cnc system I actually used a little 3 gallon pancake compressor and it worked fine for small projects. Being able to sustain 60-75psi keeps the cuts nice and clean with very little dross clean up. Needed? Probably not. Preferred? Yep
Tempting ......
worth for me for sure, its a great hobby cnc if you have the extra cash
so you bought the TOY 2X2 crossfire plasma cutting table and their recommended plasma cutter.... Good Luck with that!!! Too Much Money for a SMALL LITTLE TOY!!!
Actually I've been pretty pleased with it so far. The only thing I'd say, about a month after I bought it Langmuir came out with the 4x4 table at a fraction of the cost more and they didn't bring that up. But overall for what I'm doing, it's worked totally fine for my shop. If I was doing production work it would fail with regards to efficiency and accuracy. I do more artistic work though which is a bit more forgiving
Excellent video. Combines humor, with real work projects. You also emphasize setting realistic expectations for your machine.
Sage advise.
That is the key with adding any piece of equipment to your shop.
With your machine being two axis, writing X / Y code will become second nature to you.
As long as the machine understands standard G codes, and M codes, you will probably find yourself writing quick programs out of your head, rather than going thru Fusion 360, which is great software.
I look forward to seeing your Cross Fire in action.
Take care
There's 11 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Too much fluff.
🤣🤣🤣 I can think of many videos I wasted my time on. Sorry you feel that way. I'm no Spielberg making videos is not my top priority. But just curious what information were you looking for? Or what were you expecting to get out of the video so maybe I can improve my videos?
STAY AWAY FROM GOTORCH!!!!
Will do. You're the third person that has given me that warning
Well kinda late in my comment. Glad to see you didn’t go with them. I got one at work and now I can’t do a lot with it because my boss won’t buy the advanced software for it. Now it’s just a paperweight sitting in my shop.