Leonard Parkin was a legend of a newsreader and always professional. Always made sure making a point of welcoming the younger viewers as well as adults
I won't forget it. Three feet of snow and 15-foot drifts buried my entire town. Awesome whiteouts and sledging has never been better. Plus seeing ice packs flow down the Thames was surreal.
@@AlexAlex-lo7sx Actually, we did. I was working as a professional DJ at the time, 1974-1990, and I did a LOT of weddings. And they were hot and sultry. So let's see if you can name the year that kick-started the English wine industry by the hot summer?
You're spot on about the big freeze in January and the October hurricane. There was a lot of rain at times in the late spring and early summer but a short very warm or hot spell in early May and a lengthier,more substantial one around Wimbledon time. I started a new full time office job in the last week of the January,when the snowy conditions were still with us,and they soon started offering us Saturday overtime if we wanted it sometimes. On Mondays to Fridays we had to dress smartly with shirt and tie and no jeans for the chaps,but with the customer services desk at the front closed to the public at weekends we could wear casual clothes on those Saturday shifts,so as it could get very warm in that office some of us took to coming in in shorts on any Saturday when we were there and the temperature was on the high side. Some of the younger ladies often wore mini skirts or rather short ones,and they were permitted to wear shorts if they wanted to during the week. As I recall,there was a warm,dry spell in early September that year as well.
January 1987 was luxury. We lived through the winter of 1947. In my day, we kept warm by burning shoes, books, homework, the garden shed and floorboards, if we were lucky. It was character-building. And you could leave your front door unlocked, if you hadn't burnt all the doors in your house to heat up thin gruel first!
"hundreds of secondary schools were closed": direct quote. Evidently some people didn't go to work, the usual nostalgia bias, everything was better in the good old days coming out.
We still had to walk to school in one of the biggest freezes,but that was in 1979. I lost one of my shoes in a snowdrift that February and couldn't locate it until at least a fortnight later!
Imagine the daily Express headlines now if we were expecting a cold spell like this, - 50 freeze on the way with 40ft snow drifts, and it could last six months with snow as late as July.
If want to see a winter beyond all winters. The winter of 1962-1963 lasted from Christmas 1962 and the snow didn’t disappear until March 1963. BBC TV in 2013 broadcast an old archived recording first broadcast at the end of February 1963 about that big freeze and it was the longest prolonged freeze since the 1750’s although the winter of 1947 before i was born was supposedly worse with much deeper snow but a shorter length. You can find the old bbc current affairs programme about the 1963 winter on RUclips by doing a search and see what a real extreme winter is really like in the UK. I lived through that winter and i can remember how horrendous it was and i was born in 1952.
I wasn't born yet but the winter of 1962-63 was legendary. Older generations told me all about it when comparing it to our big freezes in the 80s,and the generation before them told us recollections of the 1947 one. The other extreme weather event they used to tell me a lot about their experiences of was the notorious Great London Smog of the early 50s/early 60s.
I was a professional DJ at this time, and am very proud of the fact that I never missed aa gig, whether a mobile disco or working in nightclubs. In fact I received more bookings because of my attitude of never saying, "No, I can't go out in this weather". And I was still doing wedding receptions throughout. I got to the hotels when over half of the guests didn't.
@@hmmmmm2634 If the weather is bad, do you dodge work? Do you get paid if you do? Are you a trained and experienced paramedic? Do you carry a First Responders kit at all times? Do you have internal and rooftop strobes fitted to your car/van, legally? Do you carry two types of fire extinguishers, large size? Do you carry two warning triangles? Do you carry tripod mounted strobe lights to place in the road? Do you carry, in the weather above, a snow shovel, wear the proper clothes and footwear for the conditions? Do you carry blankets and foil thermal blankets? Do you carry shake and throw Snap lights in Red, yellow and green? Are you an experienced mountaineer, who was a member of an MRT, and was the medic for that Team? Do you carry a Thermos flask, plus extra water and a water heater, plus extra cups? I fully expect the answers to all of those questions is NO! You are not even a trained First Aider, don't carry a first aid kit, as required by law, don't carry a warning triangle, and certainly ever carry spare Hi-Viz for any victims. By the way, GOD is capital letters. The phrase "For GOD'S sake"! is correctly typed as I have it here. I have driven ambulances in blizzard and deep snow conditions, on Blues and Two's. Don't judge others by your own miserable townies standards, scared to go out in a shower of rain. And you, clearly, have never worked self-employed. WTF, do you think PROFESSIONAL means? Cretinous ORC.
I was delivering soft drinks for Britvic Corona at this time. I remember offloading about 30 cases ready to be hand-trucked into storage at a farm. The bottles were freezing solid in front of our eyes. The farmer came out, took one look, and told us to put it all back on the wagon as he wouldn't sell it. I decided I wasn't destined to work outside and got a nice office job.
I have to say that where once I found I could leave the TV on one of the main rolling news channels,mostly BBC News,in the last seven or eight years it almost always seems to be a matter of time before something comes on that makes me think "oh,sod off!" and change the channel to get away from them. On commercial news channels that's more often than not certain adverts. I suppose it ensures that I regularly view news coverage from a minimum of five different channels,some more than others.
I was spreading cow slurry near Newport ,Monmouthshire,it was so cold it wouldn't pump out of the tower until we stirred it all night. The wind chill outside the milking parlour read -17. It wasn't a terrjble time,as the pub was open 24/7 😂
Stayed at my future wife's having seen the Priest with regards to getting married - opened the door in the morning to massive snow drifts! Took almost 4 hours from New Eltham Station to London Bridge via the 21 bus (no trains!) - and from there I had to get to Bethnal Green. Don't you just love snow!
They were huge! I was tiny but I still remember this, the biggest snowdrifts ever, it was easy to make an igloo inside an hour, brilliant! I’m glad you got back eventually and hope you’re still together.
I went arce over tit on my bicycle riding in the snow then I hit the road , with no snow! That’s when I learned what black ice was, slid into a snow drift
I was a milk boy delivering milk before going to school. I started at 4 in the morning. I think I started in 1980, what you called ‘Olden days’🤣. It’s was a great job as a child and we delivered other things such as orange juice and the job gave me a independent income. Today, I’d be reported to social services for my Jamaican parents instilling in a work ethic in me. I later graduated to a paper round and I recall when Carl Bridgewater RIP was killed delivering papers. One people
Correct. We seemed to get one snowless winter every four years (1979-80,1983-84,1987-88),but from 1988 onwards the winter temperatures suddenly moved a grade warmer. The weather also became drier on the whole,causing many small rivers,brooks and streams to dry up completely at times,certainly in the south,in the 90s. It wasn't until the autumn of 2000 that we seemed to get a return to the heavy rainfall and regular flooding that has become a familiar feature of more recent times. A Scot did dispute that,based on his experience in his part of our country,in a previous online discussion,but that was what was going on down here.
We were snowed in, in our village in Kent. The army dropped in milk and bread by helicopter. I queued for hours for my half a loaf ration. And it was my birthday and there was no post lol. I was 26
One of only two occasions my school closed due to snow (the other was November 1995 I think), and even then at lunchtime. Nowadays schools just shut as a matter of course if there is any snow at all.
We already know that global warming is taking place but they can't stop themselves laying the doomsday cult stuff on with a shovel on every report,can they?
Brrrrrr it was cold ! I think it was because the temperature was low, and that made it snow, and it makes it difficult to drive , and train services are disrupted, no one was on the beach in Cornwall sun bathing , it would be a pain walking to the pub, but I wouldn't mind the walk home if I was a bit tipsy,😀
Yea, apparently December 2010 was the coldest December for a century! Global warming means we don't get really cold snaps for as long as we used to.....but they do still happen!
Funnily enough,it was in that late 80s era that concerns about climate change began to get into the mainstream. Leaded petrol was in the process of being phased out,the hole in the ozone layer entered public discourse,people were becoming more concerned by pollution (even if Tom Lehrer had already written a song about it many years previously) and advertisers started to market some products to a perceived "green" demographic. The Ecology Party,of which my physics teacher at school was a member,renamed itself the Green Party.
Look into recently declassified cia files, about how (during the cold war), the ussr tested/used Scalar weapons on the US (possibly, others too?). With one, trying to effect the weather. By using a Scalar weapon that dropped the tempurature to zero (in a specific location). It'll wake you up, to a part of the 'cold war' you were probably unaware of (kept secret by disinfomation). These weapons can have various effects. One of them, is Time dilation. This isn't star trek, this is technology of the now. And many countries research it in secret ...
*That wus proper wintre 'eh lad, them with 'eating luxury we 'ad to 'it each os with 'ammers 'til dru blud to kep 'arsesels from freezin' to deth ! 'eh lad we wus 'appy then*
Leonard Parkin was a legend of a newsreader and always professional. Always made sure making a point of welcoming the younger viewers as well as adults
Why did I know nothing about this big freeze? Extraordinary. RIP Carol Barnes, Gaby Rado, snow and professional pronunciation.
I won't forget it. Three feet of snow and 15-foot drifts buried my entire town. Awesome whiteouts and sledging has never been better. Plus seeing ice packs flow down the Thames was surreal.
1987 was the year everyone in the UK will remember for the weather.
January - big freeze
Summer - heatwave
October - hurricane
1987 was a cool wet summer. April did have a heatwave though, the warmest April in over 40 years.
@@pak8606 That's because that was my birthday month and the sun celebrated with me.
@@AlexAlex-lo7sx Actually, we did. I was working as a professional DJ at the time, 1974-1990, and I did a LOT of weddings. And they were hot and sultry.
So let's see if you can name the year that kick-started the English wine industry by the hot summer?
Remember it well. Yes, the three situations are spot on.
You're spot on about the big freeze in January and the October hurricane. There was a lot of rain at times in the late spring and early summer but a short very warm or hot spell in early May and a lengthier,more substantial one around Wimbledon time. I started a new full time office job in the last week of the January,when the snowy conditions were still with us,and they soon started offering us Saturday overtime if we wanted it sometimes. On Mondays to Fridays we had to dress smartly with shirt and tie and no jeans for the chaps,but with the customer services desk at the front closed to the public at weekends we could wear casual clothes on those Saturday shifts,so as it could get very warm in that office some of us took to coming in in shorts on any Saturday when we were there and the temperature was on the high side. Some of the younger ladies often wore mini skirts or rather short ones,and they were permitted to wear shorts if they wanted to during the week. As I recall,there was a warm,dry spell in early September that year as well.
Ahhh yes, back in the days when Newscasters actually pronounced English correctly, and we all understood perfectly 👍
RP was a prerequisite then. Personally I love different accents and the many accents within the British Isles.
who r u comparing to now? lol
👏👏👏👏! Howdy ! How true! Once upon a time, people were educated and well-mannered, polite and cheerful, and school was school! I wish you health!!
@@gabrielionut8218Can’t argue with that. I remember that winter well…our exams were postponed as schools were closed for a fortnight. Great memories 😊
January 1987 was luxury. We lived through the winter of 1947. In my day, we kept warm by burning shoes, books, homework, the garden shed and floorboards, if we were lucky. It was character-building. And you could leave your front door unlocked, if you hadn't burnt all the doors in your house to heat up thin gruel first!
yeah me mothers mum had to burn the house down to keep warm then run off with the coal man, old gin bottle she was. god bless her.
But,but,but,but nobody is panicking......how did we cope without today's news reporters
All that game began withem imitating T. Blair with his ecpressive hand movements...
Back when people still went to work after a bit of snow in the UK ! LOL
"hundreds of secondary schools were closed": direct quote. Evidently some people didn't go to work, the usual nostalgia bias, everything was better in the good old days coming out.
nobody could commute by train so no that’s not accurate!
“police are warning people not to leave home.“ Direct quote.
@@serinadelmar6012 same as now then 😅
We still had to walk to school in one of the biggest freezes,but that was in 1979. I lost one of my shoes in a snowdrift that February and couldn't locate it until at least a fortnight later!
1987 was the last 'proper' winter we had. Since then every winter has been an extended autumn.
2010 ish was pretty bad.
The winter of 2009/10 was colder over a prolonged period than 1986/87 and December 2010 was the coldest December on record.
@@CheesestringXX Apart from Cornwall/Devon Peninsula where it didn’t snow. We did have one in the 1990’s where villages on Bodmin Moor got cut off.
1990/91 and 1995/96 were fairly cold.
The next severe cold spell would not be until February 1991.
It's a shame you have to go back to 1987 to here the news correctly and very well spoken
since when is the news not well-spoken?
@@EspritArkitekt listen to any local radio stations
I think you meant “hear”🤣🤣
aye?
I preferred "hear"ing it myself. 😂😂😂
Simpler times, men and women helping each other and "trying hard to get to work".
I will probably get a strike for such a terrible comment.
True though, can't strike you for telling the truth, or can they nowadays
Imagine the daily Express headlines now if we were expecting a cold spell like this, - 50 freeze on the way with 40ft snow drifts, and it could last six months with snow as late as July.
They just love running those extreme scare ones,don't they?
I remember big freeze of 1987 well
Leonard Parkin was a no nonsense news reader back in the day
If want to see a winter beyond all winters. The winter of 1962-1963 lasted from Christmas 1962 and the snow didn’t disappear until March 1963. BBC TV in 2013 broadcast an old archived recording first broadcast at the end of February 1963 about that big freeze and it was the longest prolonged freeze since the 1750’s although the winter of 1947 before i was born was supposedly worse with much deeper snow but a shorter length. You can find the old bbc current affairs programme about the 1963 winter on RUclips by doing a search and see what a real extreme winter is really like in the UK. I lived through that winter and i can remember how horrendous it was and i was born in 1952.
I remember that winter as well
I wasn't born yet but the winter of 1962-63 was legendary. Older generations told me all about it when comparing it to our big freezes in the 80s,and the generation before them told us recollections of the 1947 one. The other extreme weather event they used to tell me a lot about their experiences of was the notorious Great London Smog of the early 50s/early 60s.
The sea actually froze in early 1963!
It wasn't the match of 1962/63 but I do remember January/February 1979 being a particularly cold and snowy one.
Carol Barnes and Leonard Parkin ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I remember the big snow well in my childhood days in 1987.
A vivid memory of the time and a reminder of why i long ago ceased to have a tv to avoid modern day lefty/liberak propaganda.
How brexit going Mr Gammon? 😂😂😂
Fox News hold my beer😂😂😂
What a ridiculous comment.
Me too!! Especially in today's climate. And we thought we had it bad in the 80s?!
So reporting severe weather conditions is 'lefty propaganda' 😅
I was a professional DJ at this time, and am very proud of the fact that I never missed aa gig, whether a mobile disco or working in nightclubs. In fact I received more bookings because of my attitude of never saying, "No, I can't go out in this weather". And I was still doing wedding receptions throughout. I got to the hotels when over half of the guests didn't.
And it’s people like you that cause the most problems in situations like this….going out for a gig is NOT life or death for
god sake
@@hmmmmm2634 If the weather is bad, do you dodge work? Do you get paid if you do? Are you a trained and experienced paramedic? Do you carry a First Responders kit at all times? Do you have internal and rooftop strobes fitted to your car/van, legally? Do you carry two types of fire extinguishers, large size? Do you carry two warning triangles? Do you carry tripod mounted strobe lights to place in the road? Do you carry, in the weather above, a snow shovel, wear the proper clothes and footwear for the conditions? Do you carry blankets and foil thermal blankets? Do you carry shake and throw Snap lights in Red, yellow and green? Are you an experienced mountaineer, who was a member of an MRT, and was the medic for that Team? Do you carry a Thermos flask, plus extra water and a water heater, plus extra cups?
I fully expect the answers to all of those questions is NO! You are not even a trained First Aider, don't carry a first aid kit, as required by law, don't carry a warning triangle, and certainly ever carry spare Hi-Viz for any victims.
By the way, GOD is capital letters. The phrase "For GOD'S sake"! is correctly typed as I have it here. I have driven ambulances in blizzard and deep snow conditions, on Blues and Two's. Don't judge others by your own miserable townies standards, scared to go out in a shower of rain.
And you, clearly, have never worked self-employed. WTF, do you think PROFESSIONAL means?
Cretinous ORC.
@@hmmmmm2634You must be a lot of fun at parties.
I remember it well , but hang on this lasts for months in Eastern Europe and -25 is the norm but the trains still run and freight gets through !
Yes but they have designed infrastructure to cope, UK doesn't
UK always cuts costs to the bone and hopes nothing goes wrong!
I’d love some that again if only could go back in time when things and life was better not like today
I was delivering soft drinks for Britvic Corona at this time. I remember offloading about 30 cases ready to be hand-trucked into storage at a farm. The bottles were freezing solid in front of our eyes. The farmer came out, took one look, and told us to put it all back on the wagon as he wouldn't sell it. I decided I wasn't destined to work outside and got a nice office job.
LOOOOOOOOL
I think the word is "Cissy".
that's what I called him too, but he still insisted he wasn't having the stock.
@@zeffsmith7099 😃😃😃😃😃
@@zeffsmith7099
When news was real not fake and they spoke English
I was about 8 years old and remember the sea frozen at Arnside.
Man the news use to be so factual and to the point. Most the time these days I hardly watch the news because a lot of it is garbage.
I have to say that where once I found I could leave the TV on one of the main rolling news channels,mostly BBC News,in the last seven or eight years it almost always seems to be a matter of time before something comes on that makes me think "oh,sod off!" and change the channel to get away from them. On commercial news channels that's more often than not certain adverts. I suppose it ensures that I regularly view news coverage from a minimum of five different channels,some more than others.
Wow, that news at one theme sends me right back!
It was so much fun!
Yup: and then a few weeks later we had Michael Fish’s proudest moment, the great storm of ‘87
technically it was nine months later!
I was spreading cow slurry near Newport ,Monmouthshire,it was so cold it wouldn't pump out of the tower until we stirred it all night.
The wind chill outside the milking parlour read -17.
It wasn't a terrjble time,as the pub was open 24/7 😂
That's the consolation you need in those circumstances!
Stayed at my future wife's having seen the Priest with regards to getting married - opened the door in the morning to massive snow drifts! Took almost 4 hours from New Eltham Station to London Bridge via the 21 bus (no trains!) - and from there I had to get to Bethnal Green. Don't you just love snow!
Disgraceful ! Not even married, no wonder the country went to the dogs 😯
@@stuarthall2180 😂
They were huge! I was tiny but I still remember this, the biggest snowdrifts ever, it was easy to make an igloo inside an hour, brilliant! I’m glad you got back eventually and hope you’re still together.
I do remember the big freeze of January 1987. I was at Laleham School at the time.
The flame on my lighter froze that year.
I went arce over tit on my bicycle riding in the snow then I hit the road , with no snow! That’s when I learned what black ice was, slid into a snow drift
What were you doing with I a lighter? at such a young age?
@@johnchild61 defrosting a snowman?
@@johnchild61 I was 16?
Back in the good old days before Global Warming!
I can’t believe they used to deliver milk to people’s houses in glass bottles in the olden days
Section 29J Sweedie
We still get it delivered in glass bottles plastic kills the earth u know
Believe it , I used to help the milk man , proper glass bottles .
They had to stop it eventually because the modern yob liked to break too many bottles . This wasn't a problem at all till the 1980s.
Yes. Glass bottles that were renewable. Sterilised and reused, again and again.
They were also delivered to the doorstep, in an electric vehicle.
I was a milk boy delivering milk before going to school. I started at 4 in the morning. I think I started in 1980, what you called ‘Olden days’🤣. It’s was a great job as a child and we delivered other things such as orange juice and the job gave me a independent income. Today, I’d be reported to social services for my Jamaican parents instilling in a work ethic in me.
I later graduated to a paper round and I recall when Carl Bridgewater RIP was killed delivering papers. One people
brilliant video . interesting history
Wow memories, thank you for the upload
Proper winter !! Although if I remember, we didn't see another significant snowfall until December 1990.
Correct. We seemed to get one snowless winter every four years (1979-80,1983-84,1987-88),but from 1988 onwards the winter temperatures suddenly moved a grade warmer. The weather also became drier on the whole,causing many small rivers,brooks and streams to dry up completely at times,certainly in the south,in the 90s. It wasn't until the autumn of 2000 that we seemed to get a return to the heavy rainfall and regular flooding that has become a familiar feature of more recent times. A Scot did dispute that,based on his experience in his part of our country,in a previous online discussion,but that was what was going on down here.
We were snowed in, in our village in Kent. The army dropped in milk and bread by helicopter. I queued for hours for my half a loaf ration. And it was my birthday and there was no post lol. I was 26
Brilliant photo thanks for posting on RUclips
Ha, these days it's chaos if there's a heavy frost.
One of only two occasions my school closed due to snow (the other was November 1995 I think), and even then at lunchtime. Nowadays schools just shut as a matter of course if there is any snow at all.
Great memories, good to see Carol Barnes and Leonard Parkin, are these news programmes both from 1987?
Gordon Taylor yes all 1987 uploaded in 2 parts
johnchild61 : Thank you for that information; two sadly missed newscasters
Yes to see Carol Barnes in silky top and fluffy hair.
Holy -8C I had -10C 2 Days ago and there was no snow
It's winter and it snowed. Wow-wee!
That was the year i broke my wrist .on the ice coming out of church .!
So THIS is what the cold war was like!
Athens in March 87 had had snow for 2 weeks.
Was the really worse then 63 or 47? I guess colder but not for as long as in earlier years?
I like how Switzerland is Luxembourg on their map.
If this was nowadays, the newscasters would instantly go in to full climate change propaganda spreading mode.
We already know that global warming is taking place but they can't stop themselves laying the doomsday cult stuff on with a shovel on every report,can they?
Brrrrrr it was cold ! I think it was because the temperature was low, and that made it snow, and it makes it difficult to drive , and train services are disrupted, no one was on the beach in Cornwall sun bathing , it would be a pain walking to the pub, but I wouldn't mind the walk home if I was a bit tipsy,😀
Yes when Stanley Mathews scored 19 goals against Brazil with a broken leg and no head
Aye I were there
A normal day during winter here in Collingwood, Ontario, Canada 😀
I got the arse of my trousers caught on a fence in Deitlng ,I'm still there
I was 21 and living in London. I don't remember this at all.
I was 22 and living in Watford and remember it well. I crashed a car in it when the brakes froze in and failed!
such horrid weather , love the footage . Hate winter and snow and all that
The year I turned nine. I can see modern times in this footage yet it seems subtly old and bygone.
well I think 2010 was hell of a lot more colder im sure it was
Ben Conway that was only for a couple wks 81 82 went on for 3 months
yes minus 18 in Midlands!! it went on from Dec til early March and had snow on October 28th 2009. I saw my only white christmas 2010
Yea, apparently December 2010 was the coldest December for a century! Global warming means we don't get really cold snaps for as long as we used to.....but they do still happen!
I remember it I was in it😮
Can we have it this year
So here's irrefutable evidence Trump adopted his hairstyle after seeing Carol Barnes read the news.
Back in the days when we had proper news and not lefty, snowflake, guardian type news, BLM crap and all that
easy drive happier times
Absolutely right!
Oh shut up all of you with you cry baby snow flake idiots.
Alm crap and all that.
snow in London , bugger
Wow ! What an awful yar 1987 was !
Hungerford Massacre
Kings Cross Fire
That Great Storm (Michael Fish failed to see coming)
The Smiths split up
Heaven knows some were miserable now!
The great storm was the same year?
And not one dribbling word about climate change….. funny innit!
The Blue Tits used to peck off the foil bottle caps and drink the cream too!
@@Blagger3000 Then the cat would take over .
Funnily enough,it was in that late 80s era that concerns about climate change began to get into the mainstream. Leaded petrol was in the process of being phased out,the hole in the ozone layer entered public discourse,people were becoming more concerned by pollution (even if Tom Lehrer had already written a song about it many years previously) and advertisers started to market some products to a perceived "green" demographic. The Ecology Party,of which my physics teacher at school was a member,renamed itself the Green Party.
Look into recently declassified cia files, about how (during the cold war), the ussr tested/used Scalar weapons on the US (possibly, others too?). With one, trying to effect the weather. By using a Scalar weapon that dropped the tempurature to zero (in a specific location). It'll wake you up, to a part of the 'cold war' you were probably unaware of (kept secret by disinfomation). These weapons can have various effects. One of them, is Time dilation. This isn't star trek, this is technology of the now. And many countries research it in secret ...
Ha ha I remember this buzz in the 80s about a new ice age and now it's about global warming... Alwysd an agenda
Back in the days before all the PC liberal leftist BS.
@ 12:45 IRA ??
😂😂😂
*That wus proper wintre 'eh lad, them with 'eating luxury we 'ad to 'it each os with 'ammers 'til dru blud to kep 'arsesels from freezin' to deth ! 'eh lad we wus 'appy then*
Get help...soon 😂
mmm lowest temperature in Switzerland ??!!?! (or Luxembourg ?)
Carol Barnes was a fox
0:35 That’s nowhere near Switzerland lol
On the main pavement off the church path .
no I think it was about the same or maybe 1987 was worse I think
there is no comparison between 60s winter and the 80s winters ...
Aaaah Global warming, again.
A normal day during winter here in Collingwood, Ontario, Canada 😀