ForHonor's Story is Criminally Underrated

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  • @njvikesfan0162
    @njvikesfan0162 Год назад +3742

    Apollyon is still one of my favorite villains ever for the simple fact she wins. The MP literally takes place in her new and successful world of the strong rule.

    • @blackg8r20
      @blackg8r20 Год назад +139

      She didn't want to make the strong rule at all tho, she wanted to make a point. Astrea wants to have the strong rule. Seems to me like you kinda missed the point of the campaign

    • @pain002
      @pain002 Год назад

      ​@@blackg8r20 the world is wolves and sheep. The ones that fight are wolves the ones that wait for their death are weak and deserve it.
      She hates the illusion of civilization like the vikings. Saying when it turns night or they go hungry they will eat another alive.
      Seems like she just wants war. So therefore wants the wolves to see who they are

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander Год назад

      Mf missed the point

    • @njvikesfan0162
      @njvikesfan0162 Год назад +260

      @@blackg8r20 Apollyon’s whole thing was getting rid of the weak or ‘sheep’ as she put it. Astrea just peeled away the metaphor and went with the literal interpretation of her ideology

    • @ClaimerofLoot6942
      @ClaimerofLoot6942 Год назад +166

      ​@Njvikesfan 01 Apollyon didn't want to get rid of the weak. She only killed the weak if they pretended to be strong. Apollyon did what she did to bring out those who were actually strong. The wolves among each of the factions.

  • @--Cat--
    @--Cat-- Год назад +1673

    The best part about Apollyon I think is her own backstory. She's just a farm girl who had her village raided by the Warborn. Everyone but her died. This all of course could have been prevented because there was a Lawbringer staying nearby. But he was lazy and content and didn't help her village. Obviously she sought revenge. That's where her armor comes from, it's that Lawbringer's armor reshaped to fit her.
    After her revenge she realized something. That strife and conflict, that small war she just waged, it made her stronger. Being content, like she and the Lawbringer had been, was wrong. Humanity needs to struggle to grow, as only the strongest can raise the next generation to be even stronger. A wolf pack, not a herd of sheep.

    • @elcatrinc1996
      @elcatrinc1996 Год назад +137

      which also shows how flawed her own mentality is, and how her ideas sprout from that same place of vengance

    • @riasuriasu8859
      @riasuriasu8859 Год назад +8

      Very well put!

    • @xaythearsonist2003
      @xaythearsonist2003 Год назад +4

      ​@@riasuriasu8859 right?

    • @dream6562
      @dream6562 Год назад +12

      ​@@elcatrinc1996 it proves her right if you look at our society

    • @elcatrinc1996
      @elcatrinc1996 Год назад +50

      @@dream6562 no it does not, its medieval eugenics

  • @dkkanofkash8798
    @dkkanofkash8798 Год назад +807

    For Honor’s Viking story is really funny, especially how goofy the Warlord and Berserker are.

    • @bababooey3023
      @bababooey3023 Год назад +146

      I don’t speak Japanese

    • @themphantom9138
      @themphantom9138 Год назад +30

      @@bababooey3023 Caught me off guard! XD

    • @parkertulk7485
      @parkertulk7485 Год назад +39

      "This is no gate"

    • @gun6129
      @gun6129 8 месяцев назад +18

      “RAIDEEEEEEEEER……………. RAAAAAAAAAAAAIDEEEEEEEEEEEEER”

    • @starred1096
      @starred1096 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@gun6129"You talk too much"

  • @NegativeProcess
    @NegativeProcess Год назад +436

    I love how they never updated the story so no matter how many reworks there are u can still experience the game as it was day one and appreciate how it's grown. Also we can't forget one of the best lines in the story. "I don't speak Japanese"

    • @notatruck2640
      @notatruck2640 Год назад +20

      Grown is a strong word

    • @johnfraire6931
      @johnfraire6931 Год назад +16

      I think it actually did get an update or two at the beginning iirc, but other than that a perfect timecapsule

    • @winchelseabeach4863
      @winchelseabeach4863 3 месяца назад +9

      @@notatruck2640 agreed. The fact they got rid of minion killing animations because it “slowed down gameplay” is absolutely criminal.

    • @mortarion9813
      @mortarion9813 3 месяца назад +1

      @@winchelseabeach4863 Unironically.

    • @stickfigure805
      @stickfigure805 Месяц назад

      ​@@winchelseabeach4863 i quit the game shortly after this because i knew it was just Ubisoft's code for "we are starting to get very lazy and this game will now rapidly go downhill"

  • @Johnthesheep
    @Johnthesheep Год назад +1193

    They put more thought into the story then anything else in 6 years

    • @Johnthesheep
      @Johnthesheep Год назад +72

      I like my own comments cause they dame good comments.

    • @KaiserDaChoom
      @KaiserDaChoom Год назад +41

      @@Johnthesheep based ubi criticiser

    • @l.a.wright6912
      @l.a.wright6912 Год назад +3

      I can feel this post.

    • @goblinslayer7806
      @goblinslayer7806 Год назад +5

      Ubisoft moment

    • @Johnnyupside
      @Johnnyupside Год назад +4

      @@goblinslayer7806 They're French. It's 50-50 whether what they do is brilliant or brainless

  • @Com_Pilot
    @Com_Pilot Год назад +352

    i cant be the only one who can still hear female zerk screaming raider to this day

  • @notasovietspytrustme4392
    @notasovietspytrustme4392 Год назад +2539

    For Honor 2017: a thoughtful look at human nature and the battle of those who want to exploit it vs those who want to suppress it in the name of higher ideals
    For Honor 2023: “we need to fix the magic thing!”
    *1 season later*
    “ok we fixed the magic thing but we’re just gonna stay here lmao”

    • @seva7792
      @seva7792 Год назад +78

      The best summary of for honor I've ever read

    • @matteoquellobrutto5765
      @matteoquellobrutto5765 Год назад +141

      BuT yOu DoNt GeT iT iT wAs AlWaYs A FaNtAsY sEtTiNg

    • @yourcomradepal978
      @yourcomradepal978 Год назад +69

      as someone who's been drifting in and out of the game for the past few years...yeah its confusing on exactly what is going on (at this point i think the only reason as to why they still have this "magic" stuff going on is to sell effects and random stuff)

    • @CaptDuty491
      @CaptDuty491 Год назад +45

      Btw, it's really hard to make an enticing theme for every season that has meaning and lore to it when many players simply ignore it and complain about everything they see.
      Ex: "wHeRe ArE nEw MaPs?!?!!?" "DeAd GaMe!!!!"

    • @notasovietspytrustme4392
      @notasovietspytrustme4392 Год назад +13

      @@CaptDuty491 I think the concepts of what they have are/can be inherently interesting, I just think that they’re handled less well than they should be. Especially considering that this game has a dedicated lore team

  • @zubetube7111
    @zubetube7111 Год назад +122

    "He stumbles upon a conqueror with the exaggerated swagger of a blackstone knight"
    that is the last thing i ever expected you to say but it was fucking hilarious what the hell

  • @zigzaow
    @zigzaow Год назад +933

    A lot of people really misunderstand story-writing, and how difficult it can be to make something that doesn’t just follow a common trope. I will always be impressed with the way the characters feel balanced with each other here, instead of 1 main character dominating everything, and Apollyon ultimately being the victor in the end, using realistic aspects of human nature to win, instead of the hero being the most morally superior character in the world. It shows that the protagonists can fail, and will fail, if they can’t find common ground through understanding and learning from each other, instead of a short pep talk and a week or 2 of training.

    • @themphantom9138
      @themphantom9138 Год назад +29

      Apollyon: "So let me get this straight, you Brought an Army to my doorstep, Killed half of My Men, Slaughtered My People, AND Stabbed me 5 Times! And all for What?"
      Me: "For Peace! If we kill you, Peace will Return!"
      Apollyon: "Hehm..Hehehehe, you are one naive Summer child...It doesn't work like that...."
      *Apollyon looks down from above the Balcony*
      Apollyon: "War...Only starts when 2 armies collide...They fight...Regardless of...What you do....."
      *As she said, Armies were still at Battle and no one wanted to stop*
      Apollyon: "And....Among the...Survivals....Lie the...Strongest ones......That...Is what...You are......A Wolf...."
      Me: "Silence! You manipulated everyone into War! Civil Wars and National Wars!"
      Apollyon: "Eh...Heheh.....You are...As naive as the day I left you......See for yourself....Even if...I die.....War......will still.....rage.....on........"
      *thudd*
      Apollyon died and I stood at Loss, looking at the Army I created ruin a City and how the Opposing Army continued to fight back.
      "What am I fighting for..?."
      (I know this is Ultra Inaccurate, but this is my Genuine Reaction after completing the game, TODAY!)

    • @pododododoehoh3550
      @pododododoehoh3550 Год назад

      Yeah they didn't have the power of friendship smh

    • @spray_-8507
      @spray_-8507 4 месяца назад

      they didnt even have to take off their helmets lol

  • @liamodahl1205
    @liamodahl1205 Год назад +210

    So glad I'm not alone. Apollyon has to be one of, if not flat out, my favorite antagonist(s) in fiction. I was surprised at how good the ending was. It had teeth, which was... interesting, coming from Ubisoft.
    Apollyon's monologue right before her death was honest to goodness, haunting. The way the dominoes all fell right into place, right when she decided.

    • @Exel3nce
      @Exel3nce Год назад +2

      you cant be for real....

    • @legitplayin6977
      @legitplayin6977 Год назад +1

      Mfw I only play for honor:

    • @liamodahl1205
      @liamodahl1205 Год назад +7

      @@legitplayin6977
      Eh. There are better ones. But still, I really like Apollyon.

    • @raccoon8743
      @raccoon8743 Год назад

      @@Exel3ncewhy not? People are allowed to like things that you don’t, for whatever reasons they choose.

    • @sameerdodger
      @sameerdodger 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Exel3ncethese people are actually delusional thinking any of the writing in this game is good

  • @TonyRedgrave
    @TonyRedgrave Год назад +110

    9:30 Apollyon being the narrator for the lore was one of my favorite parts. It shows that she took serious time and consideration before coming to her end philosophy. She sought out every faction, every philosophy, and every religion. It fascinating to hear what she has to say on all the topics and she doesn't just how right dismiss things that aren't war.It makes her
    It's also an amusing mental image of Apollyon sitting through various church sessions and paying genuine attention or examining and appreciating art. I find that juxtaposition funny

  • @mal1362
    @mal1362 Год назад +508

    What got me into this game? Getting to play a male warden with a long sword. What kept me from leaving the game was the introduction of a hero with lawbringer esc armor and a great sword; Warmonger. It's not because the game was more grounded with its fantasy back then that got me hooked. it was simply because I got to play with an armored knight using my favorite weapon

    • @freewilly8278
      @freewilly8278 Год назад +25

      Flamberge supremacy

    • @TK-7193
      @TK-7193 Год назад +24

      zweihander enjoyer here

    • @justalockheedf-117nighthaw7
      @justalockheedf-117nighthaw7 Год назад +1

      ​@@TK-7193 The zweihander is the weapon that uses Highlander bro... Not Astrea

    • @TK-7193
      @TK-7193 Год назад +1

      @@justalockheedf-117nighthaw7 i dont recall asking who uses the zweihander. so buzz off before i activate a nearby C-RAM site.

    • @pododododoehoh3550
      @pododododoehoh3550 Год назад

      Same almost, I quit because I like to get immersed and role play for less of a better word in games. I want my mp charachter to feel like me which is one of the advantages of the knights with their helmets, So when the warden rework was super underwhelming and warmonger so stupidly was gender locked as female I quit after years of playtime and at one point reaching top 200 in mmr for warden.

  • @simonfsson817
    @simonfsson817 Год назад +335

    Actually adore the story mode, got some cool characters

  • @morte2504
    @morte2504 Год назад +48

    I liked the original vibe of For Honor because it was "simple", no mumbo jumbo magic or trying to include every single part of the world and include an incoherent story that feels like a modern cartoon, just three normal factions in a normal world trying to make a living after a minor case of apocalypse

  • @seva7792
    @seva7792 Год назад +433

    Yeah but, how about we add some magic rocks and then never touch on that ever again 🤓

    • @el_slender
      @el_slender  Год назад +177

      Hired

    • @MementoMori7777
      @MementoMori7777 Год назад +37

      Why would they? Draconite isn't supposed to be some Macguffin, it's just a Thing the warmongers found and Gryphon learned to use. Tyranny wasn't about Draconite, It was about Astrea and the warmongers as the main focus. It's like asking for lore on the wu Lin's Firecrackers or the Bear traps the Vikings use. Granted not as boring, but still not necessary.
      Besides you can infer some info about it. It's a mineral so it's an organic resource probably mined from somewhere, And it has similar properties to poisonous plants like Mandrake and Foxglove that can let it be used as a medicine or poison depending on how it's prepared.

    • @LunrFox
      @LunrFox Год назад +24

      @@MementoMori7777 I'm pretty sure they said it came from space... so... alien shit.

    • @cloberlobster2276
      @cloberlobster2276 Год назад +4

      ​@@LunrFox it could most certainly just come from an asteroid.

    • @robando2922
      @robando2922 Год назад +4

      ​@@LunrFox He'll, everything on this planet came from "some alien shit" at one point lol

  • @pay-g2163
    @pay-g2163 Год назад +386

    every night I stay awake thinking how outstanding this game could be with some amount of care given to it...

    • @rapaelis2823
      @rapaelis2823 Год назад +20

      Imagine dude, the current budget I bet is super limited and still it keeps improving

    • @peachystonerlol
      @peachystonerlol Год назад

      Imagine if they weren't retarded from the start and had real servers at launch. Maybe we wouldn't have lost 90% of our player base in the first 3 months

    • @kurbiskuchenliebhaber
      @kurbiskuchenliebhaber Год назад +9

      ​@@rapaelis2823 everyone always whines about budget such a lame excuse

    • @kaschey6145
      @kaschey6145 Год назад +47

      Not story-wise, unfortunately. The theme and lore of each new season feel more and more random and unimportant for the world of the game.
      They keep working on the balance and polishing mechanics but they're clearly saving on good writers.

    • @cIoudbank
      @cIoudbank Год назад +8

      @@kurbiskuchenliebhaber it’s not an excuse? if there is no money, nothing happens. do u understand what capitalism is?

  • @Spahki
    @Spahki Год назад +39

    9:55 "For Honor has strayed so far from what it used to be, it pains me to think about what this game could be if we had kept the original aesthetic" Couldn't have said it better myself. This line summarizes my feelings towards For Honor for like 3 years.

  • @iPlayGamesITA
    @iPlayGamesITA Год назад +50

    I guess we're at a point (generally, not just in video games) where simple stories that just work are "mid" instead of "good", where we all expect something to be always extraordinary, and can't get satisfied enough by the ordinary

    • @paul7432
      @paul7432 Год назад +6

      Big Knight fights Big Viking fights Big Samurai is good enough for me

  • @Sojiro-bb7zx
    @Sojiro-bb7zx Год назад +33

    The story mode contains so much nostalgia for me it's unreal. The cutscenes resemble the older graphics that the game had which I adore, and the gameplay and sound design was so much more gritty and immersive. Even the soundtrack was amazing. It was also just about Knights vs Vikings vs Samurai, which was what for honor was always meant to be.

  • @tonyolsson3880
    @tonyolsson3880 Год назад +83

    I absolutely love the story, combat is of course outdated but i enjoyed it. The only problem i have is that warden doesn't get to be the one to kill apollyon.

    • @bababooey3023
      @bababooey3023 Год назад +5

      It makes sense that the worlds greatest swordsman could be the only one to beat Apollyon

    • @swolzer
      @swolzer Год назад +3

      @@bababooey3023 she wanted him to defeat her so if it was warden he would win too

    • @tonyolsson3880
      @tonyolsson3880 Год назад +25

      @@bababooey3023yeah the vikings and knights had the biggest reason to actually get to kill her. All the samurai guy did was brake out of prison he had least right to get it in my opinion.

    • @FeedMeChaos1
      @FeedMeChaos1 Год назад +5

      @@tonyolsson3880 war doesn't work like that, I like the ending because he shouldn't have been the one to kill her

    • @tonyolsson3880
      @tonyolsson3880 Год назад +7

      @@FeedMeChaos1 i didn't say it was wrong. Its just a nit pick i have. I just want the warden to have gotten it in terms of losing the most between the 3. Of course this is how apollyon counted for the end.

  • @SinnerBeta
    @SinnerBeta Год назад +41

    I love the knight story, it has a heart and some twists, the other two are more like background lore got animated (outside of some moments that stand out). I only wish the story circled around back to the Warden for the final battle. Speaking of which it's just knights vs knights vs samurai, with vikings showing up at the last moment as an afterthought. They have a story role there (keep the fighting an mistrust going), but they could've worked them in as a second front storming the castle for loot and make it a three way fight.
    As far as simple stories go, I really like them when they're one properly an hit all the right notes, such has the original Force Unleashed campaign.

  • @robertsteiner4696
    @robertsteiner4696 Год назад +20

    I think the scene that really shows how good a simple story line with subtle villains on it is the Viking beheading scene. The sheer bewilderment by both Holden and the Raider they share when she congratulates the Raider for killing 40 of her own men......its like the small moment you realise how truly diabolical and smart Apollyon is in what her end goal was for how simple the story was. Like who praises their enemy for going on a killing spree on their own men? Jesus, I'd shit my pants if I was Holden and the Raider too.

  • @kajj6388
    @kajj6388 Год назад +19

    Talking about the memes and comedy in the story mode, I can't help but think of my personal favorite. The Valkyrie doing all her scouting in the Myre, trying to get intel on this Samurai threat. Gudmundr finally catches up to her on the dock, "Well? What did they say?" The first time I saw this cutscene I remember thinking to myself "wtf, are they gonna just skip the fact that she doesn't speak their language?" Valkyrie: "I don't speak Japanese."

  • @the_fixer2593
    @the_fixer2593 Год назад +81

    I always said that I wanted a kind of Game of Thrones style prequel following Apollyon, Holden Cross, and Daubany. It could have three storylines that intersect in the finale.
    Keep in mind, what I put below I just came up off the top of my head.
    One (arguably both the least and most important) follows Apollyon as she climbs up the ranks of the Blackstone legion, while at the same time driving the other legions out of Ashfeld. Perhaps it could be a sort of tragic villain story, have her start off as slightly idealistic (if a little jaded) and then slowly become what we see her as in the main story due to all the backstabbing and decadence she witnesses.
    The second story line could follow Holden Cross as he follow's Apollyon's orders and begins the Blackstone legions conquest of Ashfeld; and show him struggling with his "my master, right or wrong" mentality, as he struggles to maintain his honor in the face of the inherit dishonor war brings.
    And the last story line (and arguably the main one) could follow Daubany as he tries to find his place in Ashfeld. I see him being a a sort of Bronn of the Blackwater kind of figure, albeit less unfettered; with him starting off as a lowly sellsword (kind of like how our Warden started in the campaign), and then doing a task that gets him recruited into the Blackstone Legion.
    As the story progresses, Daubany and Cross constantly butt heads due to their differing world views and feelings about honor (the former being a pragmatist, while the later is obsessed with it); but ultimately, the finale would be both men realizing what Apollyon really wants with Ashfeld.
    Cross thinks he can temper her expectations, while Daubany see's the situation for what it is and show's that he's arguably more moral than Cross by taking those under his command and splitting off from the Blackstone Legion and forming a rebellion (to further underscore the similarities between Daubany and the PC Warden); with the show ending with the canonical battle in the beginning of the campaign, and a sort of epilogue with a scribe talking to Cross and Daubany as they reflect on what happened (and to be a sort of framing device).

    • @thenorthstarsamurai
      @thenorthstarsamurai Год назад +2

      Very interesting idea, however I think it should be split up with chapters just like the normal base game with three factions to play as with their own prequels as focusing on the Knights to a game trying to diversify characters is a bad idea

  • @RemittentDig17
    @RemittentDig17 Год назад +15

    In one of the findable clues on the final missions, the secret tunnels out of the castle were already covered up, implying that Apollyon never intended to leave

  • @blackfurio2381
    @blackfurio2381 Год назад +15

    It's true that For Honor's story is really unique. Silence, blood, clever and musics that make me really melancholic. I crave this simple and darker shade of the game. Not the move shining, magical effect and redondant story about "We shall do what Appolyon did again".

  • @moistwindow6094
    @moistwindow6094 Год назад +76

    The story is actually really dope, but that's why I wish that it was expanded to include the wu lin and heros that are actual characters and not a type of fighter (like gryphon, the evolution of the lawbringer from the story, versus warden or berserker, who is just a warden or berserker of many) there would be so many interesting interactions

    • @1brytastic
      @1brytastic Год назад +8

      Yeah honestly I feel like that would have been much better hearing characters interact with each other mid fight it would be so cool

  • @CRollins1997
    @CRollins1997 Год назад +5

    The only word I can think of to describe For Honor's story is "masterpiece". It truly brings identity to For Honor's world. Most people who say the story and/or lore doesn't matter or says that it's bad doesn't appreciate what For Honor is, they just see it as another fighting game. This game is something truly special, something that I can only hope gets topped by another entry or a sequel.

  • @physical_insanity
    @physical_insanity Год назад +6

    For Honour's story is basically one of those really good, halfway accurate medieval dramas that went under a lot of people's radar, but the few who did get into it witnessed pure greatness of storytelling and have been left wanting more than 1 season ever since.

  • @noxtenembris9131
    @noxtenembris9131 Год назад +130

    I don't know man. Not every voice acting is that great. Like the "I don't speak japanese"
    However
    I wish I could hear my boy Cent all the time as a narrator.
    I truly love Appolyon and warden voice. And the campain lore, Appolyon pholosophy is great to witness and ending in the Appolyon castle is just pure perfection. I totally agree on that. Lore reading Appolyon is gorgeus, If only we could get more female characters like her
    I wish there were singleplayer dlc's for the game

  • @coveherbert6035
    @coveherbert6035 7 месяцев назад +2

    1:33 you mention the voice acting and dialogue being good, I LOVE the sounds too. That loud CLANG when you block and attack, that vicious shredding with sparks flying after you parry a light, it’s all awesome!

  • @koochiepirate2161
    @koochiepirate2161 Год назад +7

    Finally someone recognizes For Honor’s story. I sure do miss the early days ;(

  • @TheGreatCardDecliner
    @TheGreatCardDecliner 9 месяцев назад +41

    Warlord: "So what did we say?"
    Valk: "I don't speak Japanese"
    That is my favorite interaction in the story.

  • @strangewolf1261
    @strangewolf1261 Год назад +5

    Good to know there are more folks who love this campaign!
    As for what hooked me... literally the thought of Knights vs Vikings vs Samurai!! It was like a dream fight come true back when the first "Gameplay" trailer was shown.

  • @shonklebonkle324
    @shonklebonkle324 3 месяца назад +2

    I loved the part where the viking says "ÉG RÍFI ÞIG Í BITA!" that stuck with me.

  • @syborgcat3830
    @syborgcat3830 3 месяца назад +2

    "As long as there's two people left on this planet, someone is gonna want someone dead" - Sniper tf2

  • @shoon3032
    @shoon3032 Год назад +5

    What deeply rooted and got me into the game, was simply the general aesthetic. The knight's chanting in the background with a cello playing as you were examining your hero. The brutality of the game was certainly another reason my roots were so deep too, I loved it all. But of course, the simple facts that everyone had swords and you had to *gasp* block in the direction the hit was coming from?! It was like no other man, I'll truly miss the beginning stages of this game and all the roughness that it had.

  • @MrCole62195
    @MrCole62195 Год назад +8

    man, the campaign really does remind me of the love that used allowed to be poured into it. its a shame money wins out over love

  • @SpeCt3r1995
    @SpeCt3r1995 Год назад +4

    The thing that sticks with me and really makes this campaign good and memorable is the near perfect blend of cheese/camp with serious undertones. For every "rAiDeR!!" You have a "I took an oath to fight for peace. So did you. All of you."
    That and I just adore the setting. The idea of a humanity pushed to the brink with some people desperately trying to pull it back from the edge while others fan the flames is just so interesting and fun for me. Alongside the bleak atmosphere and ceaseless, unrelenting war it's all just 👌
    It reminds me of 40k in a lot of ways, actually. But with the restraint to ease up on the edginess every once in a while, so you have just a smidge of levity to juxtapose the hopelessness and violence.

  • @kingdedede933
    @kingdedede933 Год назад +4

    It's not just the cutscenes in this game, (imo) the first trailer during E3 2016 where the three armies fight over the puddle of fresh water is highly underrated. Especially the ending with Apollyon egging on the conflict.

  • @vivalameme6341
    @vivalameme6341 Год назад +5

    The For Honor campaign is one of my favorites of all time. I am happy that someone is finally giving it some credit.

  • @nicename7633
    @nicename7633 Год назад +9

    I've been thinking about the sequel to for honor and honestly the best story beat they could do is an origin story of Appolyon. Imagine going through the experiences that shaped her into what she is. What trauma, broken alliances and accomplishments she went through. It could be a mix between Berserk's Golden age and the movie The Joker.

    • @kurbiskuchenliebhaber
      @kurbiskuchenliebhaber Год назад

      Lol, lmao even

    • @TonyRedgrave
      @TonyRedgrave Год назад

      That's be cool. Especially if it wasn't super upfront about it, so you see her grow into it bit by bit until your realize you've been Apollyon all along.

  • @krakenmckraken9128
    @krakenmckraken9128 Год назад +11

    The characters personalities are my favorite part of the game. A single player or coop mode/game with some real effort could be great.

  • @canbakc1865
    @canbakc1865 Год назад +8

    it breaks my heart to think about the potential of this campaign

  • @memetal5094
    @memetal5094 Год назад +3

    I've been writing a book for more than a year now, and one of my major inspirations were the story mode in for honor. The plot is actually fantastic, a millennium of war, so lost to time that they just fight to survive. The characters are just amazing as well. The story mode borders on psychological thriller at times. For a unique new game, for honor outdid itself in the story department. I wish we saw more games with nuisanced and interesting story modes like it.

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 Год назад +2

    Another great thing i think people miss, is how unafraid ForHonors story is of being cliche, you have a world with three big factions, Knights, Samurai and Vikings you arent told much about their societies and histories because youre meant to see the world from a warriors eyes, you just know that ''the vikings are brave and savage'' ''the samurai are honorable and skilled'' and ''the knights are righteous and stalwart'' stuff that could be interchangable but sets up the stereotypical image of these three groups perfectly, your Knight character is the standard protagonoist that has good heart, is brave, but also naive, your Viking character is agressive and hungry for glory. Theres still space for more original characters, but its great that for once you get to meet a new universe trough the eyes of the character archetypes that best represent it, instaed of some fanfic OC that SuBvErTs YoUr ExPeCtAtIoNs at every turn.

  • @oblivionfan345Tony
    @oblivionfan345Tony Год назад +1

    "What happens now...? You all just go home? You came into MY home, you brought your armies, what did you think was going to happen? Peace? Don't speak to me of your virtues... Duty... Kinship... Honor. You've forgotten what you are."
    "War... All you want is war."
    "All I want is for you to admit what you really are. My... Wolves.."
    Man I love Apollyon's last scene so much I still go back and watch it.

  • @bloodhawkfifty-six3609
    @bloodhawkfifty-six3609 3 месяца назад +5

    I'm actually of the mindset that the story was just okay. It was far too short and I still don't like how it ended. Not the peace talks at the very end- I'm annoyed that it was the orochi who fought Apollyon and not the Warden we played at the beginning of the game during the knight story. Idk the viking story was cool, the knight story was solid too but by the time I go to the samurai story it just felt like I got through the other two sections of the campaign way too quickly and thus my enjoyment of it faded.
    Edit: I'll add, this is just my opinion.

    • @kilowyatt1107
      @kilowyatt1107 3 месяца назад

      Honestly same, I was kinda expecting some kind of chapter where we ether swapped between the three or choosed one to fight apollyon

  • @AWMoffeeCug
    @AWMoffeeCug Год назад +3

    I'm glad to hear I wasn't alone in thinking the story was criminally underrated. Every time I hear it mentioned it seems to get downplayed a lot, it's nice to hear somebody talk about the things it did exceptionally well!

  • @alexanderbuentello6702
    @alexanderbuentello6702 Год назад +1

    Pair Apollyons final speech with one Warmomgers intro lines "Peace? Peace is poison" have always struck me as true to human nature. If you're at peace you're either dead or dying, as does a stagnant pool of water; the peace of it breeds pestilence in the form of mosquitoes.
    "You bring all your armies, and now what, you just... go home?" Often times when people are prepared to fight there's no stopping it. Blood is going to be spilled when people are seeing red.
    "I want you to admit what you are; my wolves" Even afer all the struggle of the campaign beforehand, all the death, all the people salin by your hands: you still lost. You came to stop a war, and in doing so started the very thing you fought to prevent.
    The situstuon leaves us with the notion that 'fighting is wrong' while with Appolyons dying breaths shows the player *fighting is in their nature*
    For as much flak as the campaign mode ever got, can't say it didn't poke the brain with some damn good food for thought.

  • @juneau2187
    @juneau2187 Год назад +2

    thank you for telling more people about this masterpiece

  • @adamelder6998
    @adamelder6998 7 месяцев назад +1

    “The exaggerated swagger of a Blackstone knight” is peak comedy

  • @concordiaharmony2302
    @concordiaharmony2302 Год назад +4

    THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I've been saying this since the game released! The narrative is what tied me over to the game. I love apollyon so much that I implemented her into my DND games because I adore her that much..

  • @rage3490
    @rage3490 9 месяцев назад +1

    For Honors campaign is a museum of a time long past wrapped up in an amazing story.
    At least for me.

  • @LegendStormcrow
    @LegendStormcrow 3 месяца назад +1

    I hadn't realized she wanted to die, but knew that she didn't mind dying. She accomplished her goal, win or lose.

  • @theonlyMoancore
    @theonlyMoancore 4 месяца назад +1

    The world of For Honor is a grim and horrific place to live. Take a minute to imagine how many families are killed or separated. By a certain age you're probably expected to know how to fight. We see in the more recent seasons everyone is sick of fighting, they don't want to anymore but have to. If you listen to the lyrics of the breach music, the Knights just don't want the war anymore, the Vikings are praying for salvation, and the Samurai just want actual living conditions and for their culture to not die out. It's depressing reading through the lore (at least when you ignore the weird parts they shovel in for either an event or a new hero). Vela was our first villain character we've seen who doesn't enjoy what she does. Imagine that, a war that's been going on for so long nobody wants to fight it, but they don't trust each other enough to make peace.

  • @vitaneon
    @vitaneon Год назад +1

    2:48 We have a Man of culture here!

  • @lygoozman125
    @lygoozman125 11 месяцев назад

    I really loved the ending cutscenes for the knights. Especially the ending shot on the second one, with all three of then standing there, and the music just kicks ass and helps it so much.

  • @loganlee9872
    @loganlee9872 Год назад

    This video is just as artful as the for honor story line it makes me want to cry how comes I didn’t find you sooner

  • @physical_insanity
    @physical_insanity Год назад +1

    A little thing to note about everyone's nonchalant attitude to death and killing, that's basically how people act when they're desensitised to it. When you've seen death and been on it's doorstep all your life, it's only natural you'll live life more in the moment. It might be a hot take, but that's probably the most historically accurate thing about For Honour's story, the way everyone just goes with the flow.

  • @silverback5730
    @silverback5730 Год назад +4

    I just love the story mode of this game, compared to many other fighting game story modes, For Honor's is the best I've played and seen. Honestly, the story mode is just great, and now I'm in the mood to play it again.

  • @turtleusa353
    @turtleusa353 Год назад +3

    I will never get over the stretchy chainmail on the knights

  • @pangopod2969
    @pangopod2969 Год назад +1

    "Daubeny ! Daubeny ! Daubeny !" i love it when reapeted infinitely
    "I don't speak japanese" that one is just so funny

  • @project1game648
    @project1game648 Год назад +8

    Now talk about the funny rocks from year 4, and how much of a "cool" idea it was

  • @Androgymess
    @Androgymess Год назад +2

    God I love this video. I treasured For Honor as a fun, grounded combat game with a world that easily justifies the gameplay, and with so many cosmetic and a few character additions that are so baseless and over-the-top, it's become almost impossible to stay invested in the world or combat because of that narrative disconnect between the original world and story and the additions to it.

  • @SkyeFyre2131
    @SkyeFyre2131 Год назад +1

    "You're here because you wanted to be something you're not. A hero." -Apollyon, probably.

  • @knavenformed9436
    @knavenformed9436 Год назад +1

    My intreperation of Apollyon was that she wasn't even an actual person, just the combined symbol for the human nature, everyone just deciding against their better judgement to cause more conflict.

  • @riasuriasu8859
    @riasuriasu8859 Год назад +1

    I absolutely love Apollyon, the badass character, the awesome VA, everything.

  • @teddylyon1189
    @teddylyon1189 Год назад +1

    “Apollyon is my favorite villain in fiction”
    Bruh, her only personally train is that she likes war

  • @precursoryt
    @precursoryt Год назад

    Good to see someone talking about the campaign, this videos popping off too. Nice.

  • @Tyrnak_Fenrir
    @Tyrnak_Fenrir Год назад +2

    I've played through the campaign I think 7 times. On Normal, Hard and Realistic on Xbox. Then when I made the switch to PC, I played it on Hard and Realistic. Then I've taken 2 friends through it in Co-Op. It's still one of the only single player campaigns I would think about going through again.

  • @clusterflood
    @clusterflood Год назад

    you got me at "for me it was cool knights", we are literally the same

  • @davidunderwood9728
    @davidunderwood9728 Год назад +2

    It's such a shame this game didn't get the mainstream love after launch. It is byfar my favorite Multiplayer game.

  • @delraxes7602
    @delraxes7602 3 месяца назад +4

    If you want to play this game because of the multiplayer anyway, then check out the story too. But i would not recommend to buy it because of the Story

  • @aussiehighlands2715
    @aussiehighlands2715 Год назад

    Playing story mode after new heroes, reworks general gameplay upgrades and more is like stepping in a time capsule, good vid bro

  • @DoofXMachina
    @DoofXMachina Год назад +2

    The cutscene between the warden and the warlord was hauntingly beautiful and I've been saying it for years. Like Jesus christ

  • @raiderking7310
    @raiderking7310 Год назад +3

    The games story was what made me want to play the world the way it looks the way the characters act and the way the world was a semi realistic yet set in a different world was just so different to me when it comes to other video games and it's ashame tht when I start to play it which was y4s4 tht the game was getting mor fantasy

  • @usaidheyyo4808
    @usaidheyyo4808 Год назад

    Man it’s just insane that such a diverse and unique community can have such an amazing creator to fill our minds with incredible ideas and believes that not allow us to enjoy the game more, but to take into our own life’s. Thank you Slanderous for sharing your brilliant work

  • @QuannetSingLeaf
    @QuannetSingLeaf Год назад +3

    I enjoy PVE coop much more than PVP. Im not a pro but not a noob in the game. It just that in PVE I can truely immerse myself to the characters, truly see their beautiful cuztomizations in action, their fight animations, their movement. Press X to walk in this breach mode in the middle of the battle hearing screams and metal crashing, oneshot the creeps, see the ram actually break the wall model, is so badass to me

  • @battlecatsubernoob1924
    @battlecatsubernoob1924 Год назад

    The ending of the knight story is so good because the Viking warrior crying humanizes the Vikings and shows how war does indeed affect others and not just you

  • @watchesalotsir3056
    @watchesalotsir3056 Год назад

    I have played through this game 6 times so far. Mainly with friends in coop. I realy liked the gameplay mainly. I did enjoyed the story but I didnt think mutch of it at the time. This does give me a new perspective tho. Finaly someone who doesnt trash the story. Thanks and keep it up

  • @MrLockeSocke
    @MrLockeSocke 3 месяца назад +1

    i think this follows the saying "if you do something right, barely anyone will notice"
    this might fight the story. they did it right.
    i personally loved it. it was short but it was great.
    i wouldnt want it any different. i dont want anyone to try and replicate it because i dont think they could come close.
    just leave it as is.

  • @PrimeRicci
    @PrimeRicci Год назад

    I love how you feel badass during the cutscene

  • @Anonymous-fw6je
    @Anonymous-fw6je Год назад

    You know another thing that I think really makes the story good is the fact it gives you the opportunity to explore the enviornments you play in. They are all gorgeous, especially the myre imo.

  • @comet3969
    @comet3969 Год назад

    “You are a Raider.
    L E G E N D A R Y”

  • @TonyRedgrave
    @TonyRedgrave Год назад +1

    6:33 Apollyon's theme fading in is so excellent here.

  • @Gloocifer
    @Gloocifer 9 месяцев назад

    What makes Apollyon an incredibly fascinating villain is that her brutality doesn't come from anger, but rather from a perspective of instruction. She doesn't hate or want vengeance, she accepts the cold truth that is humanity's need to grow and excel through conflict. You could almost say that there isn't any evil in her intent, it is simply a necessary lesson she wanted to share... and you know what they say, sharing is caring. Apollyon did nothing more than teach the world, and teaching is a way of showing love.

  • @blandie9516
    @blandie9516 Год назад +2

    They should seriously release the Story mode part 2 with all the new heroes added since then

  • @goblinslayer7806
    @goblinslayer7806 Год назад

    I remember seeing the opening mission on RUclips in 2017 and being so intrigued. I wasn’t even in to midevil games at the time and loved it from the start.

  • @terrorbilly3367
    @terrorbilly3367 Год назад +1

    i undestand why apollyon is your favourite villain but for me, it's sundowner he's dramatic humorous and vicious, he's a type of person i think even apollyon would be afraid of

  • @OddSee.
    @OddSee. Год назад

    I’ve always thought this. I have a vivid memory of the final fight between orochi and Apollyon, the voice acting gave me chills bru

  • @whitelinez378
    @whitelinez378 Год назад +15

    Stone is unironically one of the best side characters I've ever seen. Tbh I would probably put him over everyone except maybe Stigandr and Helvar.

    • @Hellisforever240
      @Hellisforever240 11 месяцев назад

      Good old Stone is really great it's a shame that you can't recreate him in Multiplayer

    • @whitelinez378
      @whitelinez378 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hellisforever240 Yeah man i looked for any way possible to recreate him but gave up on getting the skull ornament from ranked

    • @Hellisforever240
      @Hellisforever240 11 месяцев назад

      @@whitelinez378 Not just that you also can't get the shoulder ornaments. It's really a shame.

  • @ThatRandomDude204
    @ThatRandomDude204 Год назад +2

    Only complaint with the last bossfight is how Orochi was the one who finished the job felt kind of anticlimactic for me but Warden giving the Warlords his sword to have a one last duel was awesome

  • @aidanthornton173
    @aidanthornton173 Год назад +1

    I always wondered how Holden Cross could possibly see out of that helmet, let alone fight with it on.

  • @melchiorkohler2586
    @melchiorkohler2586 Год назад +2

    The first Mission alone, along with the explaination of the Blackstone Legion is amazing. Liek everyone is blaming Daubeny to be a Coward for Deserting and "hiding" in his catstle. The Missions Title is "Lords and Cowards" after all. But Daubeny is one of the bravest. He first among all others realized that Apollyions ambitions are bad und unknightly. so he bails he wants no part in it. Even tho he KNOWS that she will come for him. And Holden Cross deeply respects Daubeny. But at this point he didnt understand his friend. So as he was sent to kill him. (Probably a test from Apollyion to see if his loyality is towards her or his friend Daubeny). So as Holden breaches the gate he coudve easily killed him. But he agreed to let the Champions fight instead of themselfes. So his friend could survive. It all seems like they hate each other but i think its just show so none of the other soldiers can blame Holden for "failing his duty in taking out daubeny". Holden is also the one who starts doubting apollyions methods through out the game together with warden main char... so this was all my headcanon for a long time. and it was true i suppose since when holden then came out as playable char (gryphon) in the narrative he was looking for his lost friend daubeny to for the alliance of Chimera to stop the uprising of Horkos. it was clear for me from the first time i played the story mode on release day. Oc i love the funny wheres daubeny hiding memes. But he was never the Coward everyone blames him to be.

    • @Hellisforever240
      @Hellisforever240 11 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you. This was beautiful to read and it it indeed true. Reading further into For Honor's story Daubeny even fought off Astrea twice. The first time to help his soldiers flee from his castle and the second time to rescue Holden. To save his life.

  • @reffa2858
    @reffa2858 Год назад

    I heard alot about for honor back in the day and heard it was just a multiplayer game where the theme was players fighting as warriors from different time periods.
    All these years and I just found out it had an actual story mode.

  • @Ahrone1586
    @Ahrone1586 Год назад

    Love the last character you play, the samurai who kill the antagonist

  • @temdrik3920
    @temdrik3920 Год назад +1

    I like how the game that has a story about war and making it last has a community that makes war on almost everything

  • @rabbit7261
    @rabbit7261 Год назад

    The raider was like "ayo what happened"

  • @LunrFox
    @LunrFox Год назад +14

    I remember getting bullied for saying one of my favourite video game characters was Apollyon. Was hilarious when I explained why and they all ended up agreeing with me. She's probably one of the most well written characters in fiction, alongside characters like Ezio Auditore (funny, another Ubisoft character).

    • @scottmemelord6130
      @scottmemelord6130 Год назад +2

      Implying Apollyon is even close to a character like Ezio is downright insulting actually. lol. Bruh.

    • @S0dapop583
      @S0dapop583 Год назад

      @Scott Memelord If you’d like to elaborate on why Ezio being compared to Apollyon is insulting then we’d love to hear it. Until then, here’s my reason on why Apollyon was a great character:
      Apollyon is a great character because although we know that she is mentally screwed up, she makes a valid point on how people will continue to fight, even if they don’t know the reason. (ARMSTROOOOOONG) Apollyon simply wants everyone to admit the unspeakable which is “I fight because it is who I am” rather than “I fight for justice” or “I fight for peace”, Although Apollyon wasn’t fleshed out the most in-game, she was fleshed out from her backstory and additional pieces of lore.

    • @scottmemelord6130
      @scottmemelord6130 Год назад +1

      @@S0dapop583 ... You literally just answered your own question. lmao.
      It's a very unfair comparison considering one of these characters got like what 4 whole games and additional material of fleshing out and character development compared to a villain who had like around an hour or two of development at most?
      Like, bro. Think for a few seconds.

    • @S0dapop583
      @S0dapop583 Год назад +1

      @@scottmemelord6130 I said the most not at all, she still has a great character and the extra lore bits are just about her childhood and how she got mentally screwed up in the first place. Even then, why are you treating my comment like I just slandered your name? I simply asked why was it insulting to have a character that needed 4 games of being fully fleshed out is standing next to Apollyon, a character who needed only about a bit of that time to establish her identity and impact on the story. People only need one game to say that someone is a great character, for AC examples, check Bayek of Siwa(Origins) The Kenway family (AC 3&4) and Shay Cormac(Rogue). But my point is, Ezio is supposed to get you invested in him because he's the main character, so we get emotionally invested like a parent watching a child grow up and gain wisdom. Apollyon, we don't need to like her or even respect her, we can just think that she was a crazed lunatic that lost herself. The point of Apollyon's character is to make the player and by extent, the characters in universe, question their own beliefs and truly wonder, "what am I fighting for? For honor(heh)?For peace?" and she succeeds.

    • @scottmemelord6130
      @scottmemelord6130 Год назад +1

      @@S0dapop583 Okay look I'm not reading a novel every time you reply to me bro.
      I'm just saying claiming a character like Apollyon is anywhere near Ezio is insulting lmao.
      You kids sitting here saying she's the greatest villain in fiction clearly don't consume much media to begin with.
      Also, if a character like Apollyon is genuinely making you question your beliefs you must be pretty mentally weak, just saying. That's kinda sad. Apollyon just wasn't that great. And I feel like the only people who hold the opinion she was mega amazing just don't consume all that much media.