Of course, this comment section will be respectful and courteous to everyone. There won't be any controversies in this here comment section... Anyways for any other Americans here, how did Trump do as president?
It's the same thing with Slovakia, just as Spain doesn't want to recognize something equivalent to Catalonia, we too have calls for seccession (not nearly as loud, though) from Hungarians in the south.
@@professor_kraken The same in Romania with Hungarians, and also China and Russia that have a lot of different ethnic minorities inside their territories
They have good relation with Greece of course because they are mostly of Greek heritage, but they also have a bond with Greece, Serbia and even Russia by the fact that they are Orthodox Christians. They in turn also have a bad relation with the Albanians and Turks for being Muslims (there are some Christian Albanians but not many) On top of this Greece wont recognise Kosovo, because that might put into question, the of the status some of the areas of Northern Greece, that have ethnic minorities including Albanians.
I think you guys should do a deep dive into every EU country, their economical, political and social climate and how their future (In and out of the EU) might look like.
I'm disappointed. This video missed the entire reason why Kosovo wants independence and Serbia is against it. It's not about territorial changes after 1912, but rather ethic history (and present) of this region. This is why it's a complicated matter. And yes, it wouldn't fit 10min video, but you wouldn't start talking about Israel/Palestinian conflict from 1948 as a result of British mandate of Palestine...
This channel is about geopolitics, but that isn't the reason why there's the conflict. He didn't mention why the war started, how did Albanians get there nor anything of importance
The other day TLDR did a video on Northern Ireland where they very carefully never used the words "Catholic" or "Protestant". If you knew nothing about Northern Ireland before watching the video, you would think the whole thing was some kind of bloodless disagreement between "Unionists" and "Nationalist", not a bloody religious conflict. I guess it's something in TLDRs editorial decision making process, but it does undercut their journalism.
@@joeedwards3100 Actually, since only reason Albania exists is that Austria-Hungary set, one of many, ultimatums to Serbia, that if it ever had access to the sea, they would declare war on them. So when Serbia liberated those lands from Ottomans, they were forced to give those lands up and Albania was created. Kosovo and Metohia was never under Albania, but for most of the known history it was part of Serbia.
@@gattagoblin I don't give a crap about the history of things and ya I know all of this but the people living inside Kosovo are ethnic Albanians and practice the religion of Islam so they don't need to be apart of Serbia but Albania (because that's how nation-states work). I would argue unification of Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia but I would never argue for Kosovo and Serbia to be together.
@@hedgeandhue dude majority of these people have family in Ireland the only reason this conflict was frozen since the 1990s was because of the good Friday agreement which said that they will no longer be a hard order because of the EU but now there will be a hard border
The West (mainly USA and UK) did a great job in that case, another Bosnia would have happened if they would have listened to UN , the UN never does a good job
You failed to mention that Kosovo did not implement the Brussels Agreement fully. Eight years after signed, "community of Serb municipalities" have not been formed. Why would Serbia continue to negotiate if the other side is not willing to implement what they have already signed?
@altin kamberi That was not what the albanians have signed. They signed to form the community, while on the other hand Serbs promissed to withdraw parallel institutions from the north, which they did. The north is now fully integrated to the Kosovo institutions and Serbs no longer boycott Kosovo elections.
@@xxxxxx-rg6qr Great move by Turkey to invade an ethnically mostly Greek island. Most Turks living there were given incentives by the Turkish government to settle there after the Turkish invasion- if your counterargument would be that there are also Turks on Cyprus
@@xxxxxx-rg6qr historically Cyprus is not Turkish tho.. that would be like saying most of America is Spaniard land.. no, it was because they invaded it, and not even that long ago
The video has only been out for an hour, give it a couple of days. Watch any YT video on this or the status of Macedonia (or North Macedonia as it's called now) and you'll see what will inevitably happen. It's ugly to say the least
Oh because all u knuckleheads in that region can’t let go of the past and bring up shit from the Holy Roman Empire. Your still trying have dead peoples fights. Get your friggin acts together?!!! This ain’t cute anymore!
@@Mynipplesmychoice It's clear you know absolutely nothing about the conflict, so the least you can do is refrain from minor insults and telling the people involved what they should or shouldn't do.
The problem is not in where the border lies but in the deep mistrust between ethnic groups. Therefore the real question should be how to reconsile people and I don't think moving borders around helps in that regard.
It's more a deep distrust of the Serbs that's ruining it. I mean for example Bosnian and Serbs that actually live in the border region have inter married and lived in peace with eachother. When Serbia invaded Bosnia to "free the Serbs", it was then thousands of Serbs who took up arms against the Serbiens forces.
@@lokalkakan Serbia has never attacked or invaded Bosnia. There was a civil war in Bosnia between Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks living in Bosnia. There were also Bosniaks who were on the Serbian side in the war. The only state that de facto and de jure attacked and invaded Bosnia was Croatia and almost destroyed Mostar.
@@ermal8863 Damn you youtube. I had a longer comment here. So I'll summarize it. Hungarians were never 90% of the population in Vojvodina. Slav settlements predate the Magyar arrival into the Panonia and even during the period of Ottoman occupation Slavs (Serbs and Croats) were the vast majority of local population. The indigenous local population of Hungarians grew during the times of Hapsburgs (Asutria and Austria Hungary) plus directed colonization of the regions to introduce Germans to the mix. At the lowest point for Serbs, they were roughly a third of the population, while Hungarians were a quarter and Germans a fifth. There were no major changes during the period of the Kingdom. Major change came as aftermath of bloody WWII which caused the German population to be chased away and in their place Slavs from more desititute regions were settled, which is why suddenly after WWII there was 50% Serbs from 35% pre war. It should be noted that expulsion of non constitutional nationalities that collaborated with the Nazis was not a policy specific to Republic of Serbia as part of Yugoslavia, it happened in other parts of the nation too. Ask Croatians how almost 40% Italian population of Istria went missing between '41 and modern times. And besides, Vojvodina did get a level of autonomy precisely because it was considerably more diverse than other parts of the country in having non Slavic residents.
@@Scorpio19110 that is actually incorrect, he was the president of the Central Committee of the League of Communists of Serbia and the first president of Serbia which was a newly created position. Yugoslavia had a presidential council as acting president and a rotational leadership, but Milošević was never one of them. It was only later down the line when Yugoslavia fell apart that he became its president, but that was FR Yugoslavia, not SFR Yugoslavia.
Hahahahahahaahhhahahahajaha As a Balkan person living in London I started following TLDR for Brexit info but I didn't think you will ever go here. Enjoy the shitstorm in the comments. hahahaha
The Greek - Albanian enmity thing is not surprising or news. What I'm curious about is where the objections(s) from Romania & Slovakia are coming from.
@@mehmetemirkaraaslan4339 your statement is totally worthless. There does not exist any rule that geographically defines the borders of the European Union
@@mehmetemirkaraaslan4339 French Guiana is not in Europe, neither is Cyprus. Both are part of the EU. Your comment doesn't add much value in my opinion
Unilateral declaration of independence can be extremely dangerous, especially in volatile places like the Balkans. I hope the problem resolves peacefully.
You know what's more dangerous? Not declaring independence when you're being genocided and ethnically cleansed after a century of discriminatory policies, colonization, forced depopulation and violations of basic human rights.
@@Iamallwaysright1 1. None of that is happening in the Balkans today (at least I hope so) 2. There were precedents for peaceful divorces in the Balkan (or for that matter, in Serbia). Look up Montenegro.
Not only Catalonia, Spain would also have to let go of the Basque country and anyone who asked, including Andalusia and Galicia. In the end, Spain would be no more than Madrid and a couple of other regions. And taking into account that Catalonia and the Base country are the most economically active and richest regions beside Madrid.... Spain really doesn't want to lose them
Catalonia and Basque Country cant separete themselves from Spain unilaterally. Why? Because despite all the lies and manipulations they cant get not even 40% of the people in those regions for independence. Thats why in 2017 they tried that clowny referendum shitty thing and failed miserably. As Andalucia and Galicia...dont make me laugh. Either you know nothing about Spain or you are misleading people. Catalonia is not the richest region of Spain, its Madrid. Even more, withour the central government money Catalonia will be bankrupt. Has a debt around 50Billion euros with the central government, go figure. Oh and the Basque Country (funny name, cos as Catalonia they have never been a country) as a special agreemente with the central government that allows them to manage their finances better than the rest of Spain, totally unfair.
Last time that happened nations would pay villagers near the borders to say they belonged to other nations and thats how we ended up with today's situation
Each easy to say if Kosovo will become a country, any breakaway region that is part of any country with hostile relationship with the west ultimately Europe will support it. But What if we talk about Catalan, Scotland, or maybe Corsica?
Problem is that history doesn't start on 1912. How is possible that we have few hundreds of Orthodox Servian churches and monasteries on Kosovo. Actually it was but Albanians burned 150 in last 20 years.
Bud that’s the whole Balkans and most of coastal Anatolia. Even france has had hundreds of arson attacks against churches in the last couple of decades.
One important thing you didnt mention… there is NO Kosovo nation, it is either Serbian or Albanian nation. There is no Kosovar ethnicity, its either Serbian or Albanian. The thing is, Kosovars as a nation do not exist, ppl declare either Albanian or Serbian. Kosovar Albanians just need independance to join Albania, not to stay and remain an independent nation.
On the other hand, there are etnic unique nations like Romas, Kurds or Palestines etc. which still dont have independent and fully recognized countries and everyone is ok with it, but all propaganda and hype is to give Albanians two countries.
Is a Kosovar ethnicity a requirement? Is a historical country needed to form a new nation? I'd argue a shared past is not a prerequisite for forging a shared future, plus if you look globally, other nations have large populations of non native ethnicities but those people are an integral part of that country (generations old Indian & Chinese populations across South East Asia, for example). Closer to home, perhaps Northern Ireland could be an example. If it decided that it's people had a shared history starting at the date of partition, and that from that date to now, it'd technically be older than most European, Middle Eastern, African and Asian modern forms of government/independence. If they became a separate nation, their peoples would have no individual historical identity, but share that of the Irish Celts, the Normans, the English & Scots, yet still be able to call themselves their own country because of their own unique history, struggle and conflict in Northern Ireland that has borne what is a Northern Irish identity different to all their neighbour nations. From an outsider's viewpoint, Kosovo could argue the same point. Recent history trump's generational history and they've formed a Kosovar identity of their own, separate to others
@@niallmccourt in that case, complete UN’s international legislative should be changed if every region was allowed to become an independant country just because ppl want it nowadays. But one important thing, disrespecting laws leads to anarchy.
Kosovo's whole claim to independence stems from being an autonomous zone during totalitarian communist regime of Yugoslavia, as well as their ethnic majority of albanians there. However, when the same type of ethnic session almost occurred in bosnia, the UN cracked down on serbs and croats, so one would believe they would be consistent in this and not support ethnic secessionism
Just maybe it wasn't a ethnic uprising in Bosnia as much as it was the Serbien army going in. I'm not an expert in ethnic conflicts but when thousands of Serbs signed up for the Bosnian army and fought a bloody war to kick the Serbien army out, it doesn't lend a lot of credit to Milosovic.
A big difference is that Bosnia is split between an equal amounts of Bosnians and Serbo-Croatians so peacekeeping was necessary to prevent genocide on either side. Kosovo, on the other-hand, is 95% Albanian at this point.
@@greysonbelmont2025 But you are looking at Bosnia as a whole and comparing it to Kosovo. Thats misleading. If you want to compare the 2 you have to do it with Republika Srpska. Republika Srpska has over 80% Serb population and Kosovo over 90% Albanian. So when we look at it like that the situation is basically the same. If Kosovo gets further into being a legitimate country I am sure that Republika Srpska will have some action on their end as well. Thats hypocrisy. Kosovo gets its independence but Republika Srpska doesn't. In my opinion none of this should be happening. Let the old borders be instead of drawing new ones based solely on ethnic lines.
First off, Yugoslava was not communist at any point. It was a mix of socialism and capitalist. Secondly, the only reason we have so much Albanians in Kosovo post WWII was because Josip Broz Tito did a thing we like to call recolonization. This is the same reason that there are Muslim and Bosnian communities in Vojvodina. He moved people around as he saw fit. Thirdly, people like to blame everything on Serbia , and while Serbia had a part to play in the atrocities of the time the fact remain that there is a bigger minority of Croats in Serbia then there is a Serbian minority in Croatia for example … if you just look at the demographics you will see a pattern. Indeed, the biggest failing of Tito is that he didn’t make Croatia pay reparations after WWII and silently swept their involvement in the Holocaust under the rug all in the name of brotherhood and unity. Yugoslavia was the worst thing to ever happen to Serbia, and as someone who was born in Yugoslavia , I am glad that it’s dead.
@@lokalkakan I am pretty sure that majority of the conflict with bosniaks was fought with Bosnian Serb armies, not the Yugoslav People's Army ("serbian army")
Never gonna stay safe if countries who have nothing to do with it try to make it a "country" so they can position their military there, 2004 pogroms as proof
Unfortunately reality of things is that it won't be the case. Serbian citizens that stayed to live in Kosovo are under constant discrimination because of their nationality. Police does nothing and are most of times not sure who did what each time someone gets beaten, shot or killed. As it stands currently it is a faux state that is heaven for all kinds of criminals and terrorists alike to prosper on that soil under blessings of America and EU. As long as America has interests in destabilizing of European nations and forcing them to use their services, we will see no prosperity in any forseeable future.
@@Sale985 serbs in Kosovo are minority of 2% and already have 10 seats in gov, and don't pay electricity bills and have all the rights to use their language etc. Meanwhile Albanians in serbia are being assimilated, being proved by just recently. Your Milosevic terrorist propaganda won't work anymore. You're lucky Albanians are peaceful and very welcoming people otherwise no other people would accept your ass after a genocide that you still deny.
@@tonikelmendi6812 Can you bring any evidence about "assimilation" of Albanians in southern Serbia or is it just another lie made up by Albanians? Also, speaking about "genocide" in Kosovo, I haven't heard before that population of an ethnic group can grow up after genocide.
That would be truly interesting, since it feels from an informed outsider's point of view, that North Macedonia is just having a tough time because Greece is too sensitive about the name Macedonia and Bulgaria wants to establish Macedonian as a dialect of their language. But I am sure there is more to it, the language argument feels pretty foolish tough. Because what divides a language from a dialect has always been pretty subjective.
@Ararune I want to see your reaction towards a country which is not even 30 years old, that tries to basically steal your History, Culture and language. Its easy for you to talk about this topic because you have nothing to do with them.
I've left a dislike because the video has missed some pretty big points, which is not to say that this video is bad per se: 1) I believe it's fundamentally wrong to start talking about Kosovo as an entity starting with 1912. The whole argument of the Serbian side is in it's history, monuments and sacral objects that are present in Kosovo and Metohija. Thus, pretty much the entirety of the Serb arguments were just thrown out of the window at the very beginning, while Kosovo* was only talked from the demographic perspective, speaking of which: 1931 census Albanians: 331,549 (60.06%) Serbs, Croats, Slovenes and Macedonians: 180,170 (32.64%) Hungarians: 426 (0.08%) Germans: 241 (0.04%) other Slavs: 771 (0.14%) other: 38,907 (7.05%) 2) The agreements that you're talking about so optimistically are nothing more than a facade. Serbia has only done it to open up EU to investments and try to wrestle out more autonomy for Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija. Kosovo* signed it to fool the EU as well, and though it signed the agreement that says they agree to the formation of "Union of Serb Municipalities", it has been 8 years and they still fundamentally reject this idea. 3) Serbia, as an entire country (not just it's government) is for the frozen conflict solution. It knows that the current geo-political balance of power is stacked heavily against them, but they hope that with the strengthening of China (Serbia's largest ally after Russia), they'll have more of a say in Kosovo's* future in the next 20 or so years, while US is slowly pulling out of all of their protectorates - Kosovo being one of them (as we saw with Afghanistan). 4) 2004 unrest or as it's better known - Pogrom was not violence between two sides, it was mainly Albanians chasing out remaining Serbs. I will not wield the stats here as I deem that's not wise, but one can safely say that thousands of Serbs were forced to flee from their homes during the Pogrom. Not to mention how many ancient monuments were burned and desecrated.
Lol here comes the Chetnik propaganda. Your whole page is typical from a Serb whose nation is slowly dying out. How many Albanians did you chase out in 1912 when the Ottomans were kicked out ?, how many Albanians did you expel from Toplica in1878 to clear out Nish from all Albanians ?. Vojvodina has historically always been Hungarians until Serbs stole it by violent demographic replacement (Serbs went from 33% of population 1931 to 70% as of today) ... will you give the historical Hungarian land back to the original owners ? . Give back the land you stole Chetnik.
I've gotta say, as a Serb I know how hard this topic can be, and you handled it, well perfectly, you were neutral and the video is well informed, good job!
Well if he were to say something as inaccurate as that (I mean the Genocide part not the population percentage that is true) he wouldn't be neutral would he? Anyways that is where this conversation stops, I don't want to argue I was just praising the video for it's well informed content, and neutrality on the given topic.
@@pr0si0nalizm20 not mentioning a well documented and very important thing such as the killing of 10 000 albanians and the disappearance of many other thousands (since u don’t wanna call it a genocide) is not neutrality.
@@Gold26502 open a book and look up for the meaning of the word genocide before u comment Serbs were a majority in kosovo and metohija, nowdays serbs make about 10% so i wonder who did genocide on who Just don’t behave as if albanians were the only victims, it’s primitive. Acknowledge crimes from both sides But it’s fine bc you were being taught to hate serbs and u only hear about crimes that serbs did, as well as we hear only about crimes that albanians did in our country. Just be more open minded bc ur mind is being poisoned by this Victims are victims, and there are a lot of them on both sides so the problem is way more complicated than your one sided opinion
@Serbonian Bog we are the majority because your attempt on successfully ethnically cleansing us was unsuccessful, thats the only reason 1.9Million Albanians were able to return, also just because the UN doesn’t label it as a genocide doesnt mean that it wasn’t, there wasn’t enough accusations and observations done to declare you as guilty because all balkan countries are pussies, but now Kosovo is gonna make a change and it’s gonna sue serbia through Albania for a well documented genocide everything will go into place and justice will be served, ur complaining about the serbs killed, what did you expect? for us to be attacked and not attack you back? that’s like if a turk blamed us for ottoman deaths when they were the aggressor, u are no different from them.
Not sure if you were aware of the comment section pandemonium coming your way after such a video while you were preparing it :) And I say that as a Serb.
Because of all the comments about Cyprus being an EU member state, do one about the possibility of reunification of the nation or recognition of Turkish Cyprus. I would be curios what you guys would deem more likely, because as I see it right now, it's going in neither direction.
extra option, what about Turks leaving our country and let us live in peace? 😊 So simple, yet we have to do with Turkey, out of all the nations...Turkey. It's really a curse having it as neighbor (ask ANYONE).
@Ararune Yes that's what I'm saying, Kosovo was unimportant to Serbia, after Kosovo declared independence Serbs started claiming "Kosovo is the heart of Serbia".
How did Serbia get the conrol over the land of kosovo after the 1st World War? You just skipped a extremely important point :D nice try TLDR but this is not really explaining anything without the missing information
@@ShayNoMore1 if you have nothing beter to do then to corect peoples grammar online in a coment section where people from all ower the world talk you have some mental isues.
No one who lived a millennium ago is alive today. It's important to remember and acknowledge history (including the bad parts) but at some point, it's also just history. Whatever some guys in the 1100s did, really shouldn't have much influence on how we treat other people today.
there's nothing complicated here, Serbia caused genocide in Kosovo trying to ethnically clean it from Albanians and we didn't want any of that, Serbia started the war on us saying we are oppressing Serbs when it was the opposite, 90% of the cops in Kosovo were serbs and remember 90% of the population was Albanians just think about that and tell me who oppressed who !?
@7:49 That is because people mean different things by the word country. However, what you're talking about here is a sovereign-state. There are four criteria and they are widely accepted: It must have a permanent/settled population, demarcated territory, an entity that has a monopoly on violence within that territory (i.e. a government) and the ability to enter into relations with other states. Recognition is not a requirement, but simply helps the cause of sovereignty and international relations. Any deviation from this is generally a politically inspired sophistic detraction from reality.
By that measure plenty of "countries" would not fit the definition since there is no monopoly on violence within that territory. Is Afghanistan not a "country" since the Taliban controls territory? Or Burma/Myanmar, where the government has never had a monopoly on violence over all its supposed territory since independence?
@@charlesmadre5568 Like any country in a civil war, its status as a sovereign state is muddied. This is why control of the capital is often so important. Technically, in academic terms, Afghanistan is a territory with two sovereign states, the Taliban controlled Afghanistan and the Kabul controlled Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.
Kosovo doesnt have a settled population as there are tens of thousands of Serbs waiting to return that arent allowed too. Secondly the so called "government" there doesnt have control over the entire territory.... KFOR does.
@@grims2947 GTA 4 never mentioned where was Niko born exactly in former Yugoslavia. The game talked about the war in his “home country,” so the first thing that came to my mind was the 1998 Kosovo War.
Ive never played GTA so idk anything about that Niko guy, but there were wars in Bosnia and Croatia during the nineties, also there was a relatively short war in Slovenia
I think you forgot to mention a couple of things there, for instance the fact that the US actually registered the KLA as a terrorist organisation until they saw that they could exploit the situation economically and politically, then theres also the fact that resolution 1244 states that kosovo is part of serbia. Lastly the fact that kosovos independence didn't go against anything and was deemed as legal was because it was declared by its so called democratic leaders, so it didn't come from any government body or institution. Thats like me declaring my kitchen independent. I can do it, but it doesn't mean that it's actually true. Oh and one more thing, you forgot to mention that "kosovo" hasn't fulfilled any obligations in all of its agreements, like the majority serb municipalities (ZSO) has still not been formed 9 years later.
First off I’d like to remind you off the cetniks in Serbia and the war criminals if that time that exploited and ethnic cleansed 1.46 million Albanians from Kosovo resulting in 90% of the population being removed, there are still mass graves in Serbia being found that have been hidden by the Serbian regime for years, not to mention that Serbia commuted more than 3 genocides 4+ ethnic cleansing and the biggest crimes against humanity since the war. Let’s also not mention the 225 out of 400 mosques were vandalized and Serbs don’t even try to hide their islamophobia today by vandalizing mosques in Montenegro, whilst Serbia’s motive to war was islamophobic reasons Kosovo was freedom of the oppressing regime, so I find it quite rich coming from Serbs calling KLA a terrorist group when they even killed Albanians whom were trying to commit war crimes, whilst cetniks were encouraged and are seen as “heroes” to the Serbs today. Now I don’t think you understand the meaning of the 1244 resolution. The UN agreed upon a force governing Kosovo after the war, until the final status of the region was resolved later in the future (which it has been). Therefore 1244 resolution called it a province of Serbia until dialogue would determine the state and the aftermath, after failed dialogue US encouraged Kosovo to become independent and so of all the western countries. That’s why Serbs still complicate it because they think the beginning of the resolution still applies to when Kosovo was a province in Yugoslavia whilst the resolution has made immaculate process with the help of other countries and therefore the resolution has concluded to that the region has become an independent and sovereign state of Kosovo. Not to mention that the Serbs in Kosovo have all rejected the deal and promised the Serb leaders to resist according to the Brussels meeting. Not to mention that Kosovo’s assembly agreed to the deal whilst the Serb parliament refused to vote on the agreement as well, because of doing so they were scared that they would constitute recognition of Kosovo. So there you go hope you learned something. :)
@@shlomoshlomo963 so if a Serb is stating facts they should be ignored since he/she is Serbian? That's actually a very racist comment Shlomo. If I say Serbia lost 25% of its population in WW1 or that more than 6 million Jewish people were killed in WW2 is also a lie because Serb said it? This is exactly why social media platforms are dangerous, it gives ignorant people the platform to offend others and spread disinformation.
@@partizanbgd0113 bruh what? Did u even read my comment? Do u know what a joke is? 27 % of serbia population died in ww1 this is a fact, tho what the person above wrote is a very long rant about why he don't think kosovo should exist which is something serbs get laughed at a lot online ( for their over the top nationalism) so i made a joke
The problems are: Kosovo is not a nation (it's a region in Serbia with vast Albanian majority), Kosovo didn't fulfill any of the agreements it signed (the one in 2013 and 2018), plus it's working against the resolution 1244. Not to mention that history didn't start at 1912 but ok. I wouldn't have a problem with Kosovo being an independent state, if it was a rule for all, including the Serbs who live in Bosnia, Croatia and even parts of Kosovo. If Serbs can't have that right, why should Albanians have the right to get a second country? The countries that don't recognize Kosovo didn't recognize it because they know it's against international law, it has nothing to do with the fact that they like or dislike Serbs or Albanians. Same goes for those who did recognize it, they did it under the pressure of the Western powers. So if Kosovo wants to be independent, it should first learn to implement the agreements it signed, stop the repression of the few thousands Serbs left there and stop deleting every trace of Serbian history and culture in that place using a disgusting propaganda campaign. Secondly, the Serbs in Bosnia should atleast get the same rights like Albanians in Kosovo for self-determination. In any other case, Serbia won't recognize this fake state and no one can do anything to change our minds.
@@gigasigma8373 that’s the only thing you have to say against my arguements? 😂 fyi Dardanians weren’t Albanians, it was 2500 years ago. It’s like Macedonians claiming Alexander the great
@mo gamer People change their names. The name Albanian comes from the tribe Albani which is a latin version of the name Arban which is also the name of medieval albania, Arberia. Scotland was called Alba aswell, yet today its Scotland. France was called Gaul, now its france and etc. Shqipetar is said to come from the word "excipere" from latin which means "to speak clearly" or the more mythological one, that it derives from the name for eagle which in albanian is Shqiponje.
Kosovo is recognised by 117 countries of the world, by most of the europian countries and by many of international organisations, by most of the democratic, economic and powerfull countries as US, UK, Germany, France, Japan, Canada, Australia, Italy, Turkey and so many others. So Kosovo is an indepedent country. END OF THE STORY.
@@Wolverine-ky9gk you talkin about those countries in Africa who still eat mud to survive? we dont need their recognition. they should ensure to give its citizens basic human needs and then...perhaps be a part of some international decision.
This video totally neglects foreign interest and the reasons why "Kosovo" was supported by the West. First of all the succession of Kosovo breaks up the region even more making it easier for exploitation, gives NATO a harbour in the Balkans (Bondsteel), also it gives them free access to the natural resources of Kosovo and Metohija. They were not there to help them because they are good, they came there with interests. Not to mention that NATO had no right to intervene. This was a local conflict which they transferred to a global geopolitical problem.
Disagree, why would the chance of exploitation increase instead of decrease if they're currently stuck with neighbors on all sides that do not like them? If they get independence and join the EU, the neighboring countries will be forced to allow free trade.
And also I know people who I play cs with who live in Kosovo and genuinely witnessed some real shit like, no, it is entirely within NATO's & the UN's rights to intervene in a combat which escalated to executions of non-combatants
@@Masterrunescapeer No country in Kosovos neighborhood is in EU. As a result of their backing of Kosovo independence western powers have taken control of most mining industry in Kosovo, that's the resource exploitation.
hey big fan of your channel but i think the ottoman map has a tiny mistake. the area south of Kuwait in saudi arabia (modern day al-ahsa in the eastern province of SA) was also ottoman territory.
They are for all intensive purposes a state. Serbs can live in denial all they want. They caused 4 bloody wars in the 90s by trying to carve up independent, ethnically pure Serb states ... and then get made Albanians don't want to live with them. Nobody does. They will loose Vojvodina and Sandzak next.
The real reason why Serbs dont want Kosovo to be independent is because its the heart of their national identity, and it was for meny meny years, you make it look like Kosovo wanted independents from the start, but thats not true since it was majority Serbian until in the 1960 large populations of Albanians started migrating towards Kosovo and Serbians started migrating towards Belgrade, long story short, Albanians wanted independents because they were a majority at the time, Kosovo today is definitely independent and that should be respected, even tho Im sad since it is the heart of Serbian national identity. Also I'm not replying to any Albanian or Serbian nationalists or any nationalist in general
@gatheringtonKosovo had a big army and cleansed Serbs you are claiming. Also did Tito jailed some Serbs because they did crimes toward Kosovo Albanians. how can a population that in ex Yugoslavia never ruled Kosovo can clean other ethnic groups.
TLDR, you recently explained Esperanto on your Global channel. Can you explqin Toki Pona, the minimalist language as well? I think it deserves more awareness. Thanks for reading
I am Serbian, and to be honest as a young resident of my country I'd be the first one to say yes for Kosovo's independence as it is making so much trouble in our lives. It would be much better if we can all live together like people and not to make difference between Serbian and Albanian ppl. I mean come on government of Serbia..
My friend, can i move to your house and later claim it for myself and accuse you of being an invader, aggressor? That's exactly what happened when Albanians moved to our land in Kosovo.
I am a Serb here to wish the dispute ends peacefully, however I must say this video leaves a bad taste in my mouth. it is entirely ridiculous to start the discussion from 1912, the reason why Kosovo is seen as so important by the rest of Serbia is because the first Serbian country was established on that land all the way back before the year 1000. Along with Serbian history being written on this land in 1389 at the battle of Kosovo against the Ottoman empire. It is our roots as a country and people, it is our, Serbian land as much as Paris is French, as much as London is British as much as Washington is American, As wiser people have said, it is a sin to recognize Kosovo as it's own country while the rest of Serbia exists, I could not see a single comment from a fellow Serb on this matter, probably due to censorship, but if you see this, while I do not claim that this is the opinion of all Serbs, it is at least the vast majority. If Paris wanted independence, I wonder how the French would respond, this is all I shall say on this matter.
@@DinaricUbermensch Ah, if it isn't the 'Illyrian master race' argument, though I could be wrong, since there is no lack of bias in this topic since it concern politics (of the Balkans no less), linking the people that lived there in the ancient times with modern day Albanians to the point of calling them the same people seems a little disingenuous to me, however, that said, I can still see where you are coming from, but it does not make Kosovo any less important to us, only makes it not ONLY important to us, which to me does not change much of anything. At the very least thank you for responding civilly.
@@nikolaristicii-9995 The three most common Albanian haplogroups have been found in cultures which would later on be called "Illyrian". E1b-L618 which is the father clade of E-V13 was found in Dalmatia, R1b-Z2103 was found in the Vucedol cultural area and J2b2-L283 was found in a proto-Illyrian site in Croatia. Also autosomally Albanians are close to the Neolithic samples from the Balkans, Our language has latin words that date back to roman era illyrian and is related to messapic which is also related to illyrian.
@@nikolaristicii-9995 You stole kosovo from the albanians, albanians are the only people that descend from the illyrians, u were never even in the balkans during their time and came here in 6th century and then started to forcefully steal it from the very small surviving group of illyrian descendants that escaped roman empire and sought refuge in the Dinaric alps (the albanians)
There is no such thing as an "official country". The US and the UK have recognised Kosovo's independence, so these countries regard Kosovo as just as legitimate and "official" as Indonesia, Paraguay or Portugal. China and Russia think otherwise. There is nothing mysterious about this, it's just that sovereign states take different positions on the issue, as they are indeed entitled to.
They're hypocrites. They don't support it when Crimea, Abkhazia and South Ossetia declare independence and because Russia supported the liberation, they claim it's "occupied". Well then, Kosovo is occupied too!
@@gamermapper The devil lies on the small print. by the Yugoslavians constitution all 6 republics and 2 autonomic provinces hade the right of independence. Now I'm not sure that that is the case with the regions that you are mentioning. And as far as I know it was not Ukraine army that went and occupies Crimea or Donbas at that time very peaceful regions of Ukraine , but it was Russia that wanted to grab land.
@@gamermapper none of the places you commented about had genocide committed against them . Hell in abkhazia separatists committed ethnic cleansing against Georgian majority there
It’s already been mentioned here, but just to reinforce the point: the Republic of Cyprus 🇨🇾 is an EU member state. This is a basic fact that your team should have been aware of. Anybody can Google this on their smartphones in literally a few minutes.
@@kevinm.7209 No i don't but every viewer and his whole team knows that Cyprus it's an EU Member State. You're pointing a fact they forgot to put not cause they didn't know that. Is those types of corrections that anyone can do and by disavalueing their work to correct a point which they forgot or something went wrong on the video is not really appreciated. And how i live my life? That was not a cool thing to add there, you're really bothering about that for only one sentence i said? You sound like a really judgemental person and rude. I'm out.
@@redtigergaming1467 Re-read your own comment, and think how it would have made you feel if someone had written that to you. My point was a fair one. TLDR owe it to their viewers to present correct basic facts, and as I pointed out, I wasn’t the first to call them out on this. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes, but a professional operation still has a duty meet minimal standards. Also, it’s not enough to say that everyone knows Cyprus is an EU member. For various reasons some people simply don’t know, and will come away with the wrong impression from this video. Part of the TLDR’s purpose, I am sure, is to be educational and informative, to have people be a bit more knowledgeable about a given topic after they’ve watched a TLDR video. Furthermore, I don’t mean to come across as attacking the TLDR team. As I’ve said, we all make mistakes, myself of course included. Again, what I do expect from them is correctly stating basic facts, and correcting mistakes made. Finally, I’d like to apologise for my comment about your life. You are right that that was uncalled for, and I hope you’ll read all this and can accept my apology. But at the same time, I would ask you to consider how you frame your reaction to others’ comments. Maybe next time write a fuller response, rather than one line ending in: “You make me laugh” (that’s not cool either), and more broadly implying TLDR is above any criticism. Thanks.
@@didyouthinkaboutthis and the basically the whole world isnt in europe but most countries are still signed to the geneva conventions. Where the treaty was signed isnt important who signs up to it is and it just so happens that the eu as an organisation has signed it.
@@albinh.3149 oh yeah, absolutely. I think Kosovo should be recognised as a nation for no other reason that they fulfill the definition. I just wish TLDR would at least acknowledge the convention exists.
Specially Spain? Try to do some studies on Hungary from WWI. Onwards. Also check the ethnic map of the Carpathian basin. Romania and Slovakia have a better reason than Spain to worry. ;)
Hungary this, hungary that, WWI and again you are sad. So a country with many ethnically diverse regions like Spain should worry less than Romania that has a one small minority surrounded by a sea of Romanians. But but hungry hungary is so stronk and important.
I didn't mean it that way. You could also name gypsies in Romania, Slovakia, Hungary. But clearly Orban is playing much bigger than the size and population of the country would suggest. So might worth looking into it. ;) Also Spain is much more Historically united and solid setting than anything in Eastern Europe and specially the Balkan countries...
It will be recognised. Kosovo has no importance to any Serb anymore. Its only the old people whixh still talk about it. The Kosovo hate will probably end in a decade or two.
If Serbia tends to get Kosovo back, the ww3 might as well start. Kosovo belongs to its population that lives there which is 95% Albanians and 5% of other ethnicities.
There will be no peace in BALKANS until the Albanian problem will be solved. Great European powers created this shit during ww1 and they have to deal with it, otherwise all Europe will be set in fire. WE NEVER FORGET
@@sm3675 North Kosovo is important to us, we dont care about rest of Kosovo. Most important things in Balkan for us are Republic of Srpska in Bosnia and Montenegro.
@@МладиГангстер that is the thing. Vucic keeps blocking Kosovo and in that process he is also blocking the northen part. That is why when a proposal of landswitch between Albanian populated parts of Serbia and Serbian populated parts of Kosovo came the Kosovar part didn't agree because he was likely to ask for more and start a war.
Kosovo has been Albanian land since way before 1244, Albanians are native to the balkans whereas Serbs migrated in the 5th-6th century, Its not your land, and it never will be
You should make a video on Transnistria, the other defacto independent but not widely recognized state in europe. It's quite interesting and not very well known.
Personally I think that Kosovo has more than enough justification to form their own nation or to join in with Albania. Albanian is a completely different language from Serbian. If Croatia and Montenegro deserve their independance from Serbia, which mind you speak languages very similar to Serbian, than so does Kosovo. The only countries who are against Kosovo's independance are countries with their own opressed minorities.
that doesnt make any sense, if i go my your logic where is the Country for Kurds, Sinti and Roma? just because you Speak another Language doesnt mean you are qualified for your own Recognised Country. Funny that you think Kosovo or for that case even Albania doesnt oppresses minorities. when Roma were forced to speak the Albanian Language and were prohibited to speak their romani language otherwise they would be killed.
@@youknowme2003 According to the Balkan standard, Kosovo meets all the conditions to become a state. Serbia is not a country of 100 million inhabitants but only of 5 million Serbs in Serbia. And they can not keep almost 2 million Albanians occupied inside Kosovo. By the way Kosovo has more inhabitants than Macedonia and Montenegro.
While the video was done well and I appreciate the interest in the region, it is worth mentioning that the requirement in the Brussels agreement to create a community of Serb municipalities was never upheld by Kosovo*, which has led to further scepticism for any big deal to actually happen.
While the video was well done and i appreciate it ! It is worth mentioning that Serbia still denies genocide done in Kosovo also in Balkan. More than 1000 albanians innocent people massacred by serbian army still buried somewhere in Serbia never returned to their family.
While the video was done well and I appreciate the interest in the region, it is worth mentioning Albanians trafficking human organs of captured Serb civilians, ethnocide and culturicide that continues today, resulting in the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Serbs from Kosovo and a large number of destroyed churches, monasteries and cemeteries. In essence, everything that proves that Serbs lived in Kosovo.
While the video was done well and I appreciate the interest in the region, the serbian defamation campaign against Kosovo which is built up mostly on lies trying to deflect from their own wrongdoings has been disproven countless times since never has their ever even been a trial for such a heinous accusation but also the main propagator dick Marty a swiss politician who spread these accusations on servian payroll lead nowhere. Funniest thing now is that the swiss secrets service covered up an assassination plot from the servian government against him with the goal to pin it on albanians. He lives now with constant police protection and in fear to be offed since he knows the truth
@@JovanLemon "Suppose you see a bird walking around in a farm yard. This bird has no label that says 'duck'. But the bird certainly looks like a duck. Also, he goes to the pond and you notice that he swims like a duck. Then he opens his beak and quacks like a duck. Well, by this time you have probably reached the conclusion that the bird is a duck, whether he's wearing a label or not"
@@RA7KO it pretty much is nationalist, the earliest proof he could find was after the 10th century, he didn't bother to put kosovos 500-700 more year written history on his video, guess why? Huh whatever he said and the proof he gave was propaganda and false made by serbian people, they could never stand being the immigrants in their own country and not being able to get albanian land for hundreds of years thinking they are superior
Saying that Serbian mapping is not a nationalist is a very big lie. Just look at his video talking about the serbian-bulgarian relations throught history and you can see that he puts most of the blame for the bad relations on the bulgarian side. He doesn't even talk about the terrible things that the serbs did to the bulgarians during the Yugoslavian times.
Let the EU recognize Kosovo as an "entity" but leave actual recognition of independence as a state up to each individual member. Admit the "entity" into both Schengen & Eurozone automatically when Serbia is admitted. This way everyone gets what they want and can believe that Kosovo is independent or part of Serbia without affecting the actual function of anything.
I agree with most of things, but not with the end of the video. Kosovo has not strict borders. Circulation of people to Serbia and Albania is unchecked. Many people of Kosovo still have Serbian documents, as Serbia maintains parallel institutions, and Serbian ones give you more freedom and are recognized in all countries. Serbia still considers everyone living in Kosovo as own citizen. Kosovo has no economy. War was 22 years ago, and yet most people still live of from aid, which could be from Serbian government, UN, US, EU or from family members living abroad. Many times Kosovo Albanian that has Serbian passport, when causes trouble in EU, they say it was 'Serbian' or 'Serbian citizen', but never Kosovar. I have no bad feelings toward Kosovo or Albanians. But for something to be truly independent, it has to not depend on anybody else. It is like leaving your parents, just to move to flat next door, but they still pay for it and send you food to eat, while you have no job.
Because they agreed to give them up. Serbia was never made to sign similar document. Kumanovo document and resolution 1244 both state that Kosovo is a part of Serbia under temporary UN administration.
Serbia was recognized as a UN member state with sovereignty over the territory of Kosovo*, Germany was not (over "it's" eastern territories), it's really as simple as that.
Kosovo is the greatest political robbery of our time, and the greatest criminal supermarket in the world. It was never meant to be a country, just a black market where you can literally buy human parts if you try hard enough
@@uroskovacevic2743 Nah serbia did also genocides in Bosnia, Croatia and other countries in 90s wars not only in Kosovo, you also started World War I, you're the Nazi karen of Balkan
Bottom line is that the US has managed to divide the Balkan nations into smaller that can be influenced. Divide and conquer. And we fight on whether we should divide even more or not. Kosovo is a very useful place for the US to establish bases and control the whole Balkan peninsula. This is all what it is about.
So, you rolled the clock back exactly at that point in time where it is comfortable to say Kosovo yes should be a country by its own. But if you go back in history from the beginning you will sea how Kosovo is in fact a deep part of Serbia legacy. Who are you paid by to make these videos???
Well Taiwan or as they entered the UN as republic of China/ Chinese Taipei Was withdrawn their membership due to the fact big fatty arse apeshit China / Beijing bullied Taiwan
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I am sure the comments section will be respectful and cause no controversy.
As one can expect from this topic.
In all seriousness though, a major catastrophe at a chemical plant would be less toxic than this comment section.
Oh, hell no! I came to start shit 😃 TLDR just made my day!
I expect at least one "Kosovo je srbija"
yes
Of course, this comment section will be respectful and courteous to everyone. There won't be any controversies in this here comment section...
Anyways for any other Americans here, how did Trump do as president?
Balkan news is always appreciated we dont get much attention otherwise
I personally think it's because the history is so tangled we just get confused. Even TL;DR skipped to the 20th century.😁
Because it's better for European peace when we don't give too much attention to the Balkans. :)))
Not usually good attention
We tend to avoid it like the black death
"The Balkans produce more history than they can consume" Churchill
TLDR has been dancing very close to the cliff these days😭😂
Respect though! He’s a good tight rope walker
If you ain't living on the edge you're taking too much space
What do you mean? Why? I don’t get it
@@binkao2938 Sensitive political subjects about countries
Kosovo (Dardania) have very old history and is Albanians important country before Slavs come in Balkan
6:47 Cyprus is an EU member state too, and I think they don't recognize Kosovo because of the whole Turkish Cyprus thing
cyprus is heavily connected to greece and serbia and greece are really good friends.
@@rexgamer8201 Kosovo is heavily connected to serbia
It's the same thing with Slovakia, just as Spain doesn't want to recognize something equivalent to Catalonia, we too have calls for seccession (not nearly as loud, though) from Hungarians in the south.
@@professor_kraken The same in Romania with Hungarians, and also China and Russia that have a lot of different ethnic minorities inside their territories
They have good relation with Greece of course because they are mostly of Greek heritage, but they also have a bond with Greece, Serbia and even Russia by the fact that they are Orthodox Christians.
They in turn also have a bad relation with the Albanians and Turks for being Muslims (there are some Christian Albanians but not many)
On top of this Greece wont recognise Kosovo, because that might put into question, the of the status some of the areas of Northern Greece, that have ethnic minorities including Albanians.
I think you guys should do a deep dive into every EU country, their economical, political and social climate and how their future (In and out of the EU) might look like.
@@lateksipumppu Well, some.
@@lateksipumppu Yeah...
"Hello, my name is Shirvan, and welcome to CaspianReport..."
Yes
UK’s future there is none
Romania and Slovakia will not recognise it because of the hungarian minorities, Spain because of Catalonia and Greece because of the Turks
And it's a right thing to do.
@Andrei Panghe Montenegro is not in Italy
Greece is close friend with Serbia, they refused to bomb it in 1999 and didn't let NATO use their airbases
China also denounced it's recognition due the situations in Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Hungarian minority in Kosovo? Ok got another reason to hate it.
"If a war does occur, it will be due to some damned thing in the Balkans."
-Otto V. B.
anyway... lucky guess
World War 1
Funny thing is he said this during the berlin congress which decisions resulted in the balkan wars and ww1. Smells like hypocrisy in here
@@fhffvgju6299 Do not expect anyone actually responsible to take any sort of responsibility. Are you crazy or something? ;)
@@norten76 also let's not forget how many wars germany started to achieve unification
Meanwhile, at the UN meeting:
Russia: "hey china say no"
Controversial opinion - it's time to end the UN permanent security council - or at least remove their veto privileges.
@@alexpotts6520 it's not even controversial.
@@alexpotts6520 they should add more nations, instead of removing the council entirely
@@lucelenthawk3543 i agree they should add romania since they are puppets of romania
@@alexpotts6520 unfortunately none of the 5 countries want to do that so it won't be happening anytime soon...
Just a correction at 6:47 Cyprus is also an EU member.
I'm disappointed. This video missed the entire reason why Kosovo wants independence and Serbia is against it. It's not about territorial changes after 1912, but rather ethic history (and present) of this region. This is why it's a complicated matter. And yes, it wouldn't fit 10min video, but you wouldn't start talking about Israel/Palestinian conflict from 1948 as a result of British mandate of Palestine...
This channel is about geopolitics, but that isn't the reason why there's the conflict. He didn't mention why the war started, how did Albanians get there nor anything of importance
The other day TLDR did a video on Northern Ireland where they very carefully never used the words "Catholic" or "Protestant". If you knew nothing about Northern Ireland before watching the video, you would think the whole thing was some kind of bloodless disagreement between "Unionists" and "Nationalist", not a bloody religious conflict. I guess it's something in TLDRs editorial decision making process, but it does undercut their journalism.
Kosovo should really be apart of Albania, more than anything.
@@joeedwards3100 Actually, since only reason Albania exists is that Austria-Hungary set, one of many, ultimatums to Serbia, that if it ever had access to the sea, they would declare war on them. So when Serbia liberated those lands from Ottomans, they were forced to give those lands up and Albania was created.
Kosovo and Metohia was never under Albania, but for most of the known history it was part of Serbia.
@@gattagoblin I don't give a crap about the history of things and ya I know all of this but the people living inside Kosovo are ethnic Albanians and practice the religion of Islam so they don't need to be apart of Serbia but Albania (because that's how nation-states work). I would argue unification of Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia but I would never argue for Kosovo and Serbia to be together.
“Some regions still fighting for independence...”
**a wild N. Ireland appears**
@Cobby2000 They are protesting to join Ireland
Mother of God, don't mention fighting. I'm still convinced 'decommissioning' means 'wrap it up in oilcloth and stick it in attic'
INFACT Protests or becoming violent with fires and stuff
@@syrianball1875 Those protests are by kids egged on by Unionists. If they suddenly want to join Ireland it will solve a century of conflict!
@@hedgeandhue dude majority of these people have family in Ireland the only reason this conflict was frozen since the 1990s was because of the good Friday agreement which said that they will no longer be a hard order because of the EU but now there will be a hard border
Let’s face it, they’re not a fully fledged European country unless they enter Eurovision.
Just like Australia
Big brain 🧠
Underrated 😆
They don't have to. Albania is already in Eurovision. Why would an Albanian province bother with that?
@@chuckytehboy6168 serbian*
The expected comments: Kosovo is Serbia! NO, its Albanian!
Comments in reality: Cyprus is in the eu dumm dumm >:((
Maybe he made that mistake on purpose, as an distraction 🤔
@Kosova 💙✨ kosovo is Serbia. The word Kosovo has meaning in the serbian language.. yet no meaning in siptar language
Kosovo is albania! Go back to russia serv
❤Dardania 🇽🇰illyrian 🇦🇱
@@nemanja162 Kosovo has meaning in Albanian not in Serbian
@@tysm.
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You forgot to mention some important things like the fact that UN did not allow the bombing of Yugoslavia
Of course not, Russia vetoed it! They said "let people die, we love our serb brothers".
@@Flavor88 ?
@@Flavor88 in a nut shell
The West (mainly USA and UK) did a great job in that case, another Bosnia would have happened if they would have listened to UN , the UN never does a good job
@@liis5425 So, for you, its better for NATO to bomb all of Serbia and Montenegro (including Kosovo) to harm both sides? ok thats weird
You failed to mention that Kosovo did not implement the Brussels Agreement fully. Eight years after signed, "community of Serb municipalities" have not been formed. Why would Serbia continue to negotiate if the other side is not willing to implement what they have already signed?
@altin kamberi That was not what the albanians have signed. They signed to form the community, while on the other hand Serbs promissed to withdraw parallel institutions from the north, which they did. The north is now fully integrated to the Kosovo institutions and Serbs no longer boycott Kosovo elections.
Very poor to not realise Cyprus is an EU member state. Your videos are great, but you have made errors with maps before and now this :(
cyprus is controlled by turkey ,turkish land🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷💖💖💖
@@xxxxxx-rg6qr Great move by Turkey to invade an ethnically mostly Greek island. Most Turks living there were given incentives by the Turkish government to settle there after the Turkish invasion- if your counterargument would be that there are also Turks on Cyprus
@@xxxxxx-rg6qr historically Cyprus is not Turkish tho.. that would be like saying most of America is Spaniard land.. no, it was because they invaded it, and not even that long ago
@@xxxxxx-rg6qr well no, only a certain part of the island. Witch was invaded by Turkey btw
@@xxxxxx-rg6qr lol no cyprus is greece
Plenty of comments talking about the comments being (or going to be) a shitstorm.
Not many comments actually contributing to it 🤔
The video has only been out for an hour, give it a couple of days. Watch any YT video on this or the status of Macedonia (or North Macedonia as it's called now) and you'll see what will inevitably happen. It's ugly to say the least
Wait for a day or two
@@TheEmperorOfTheWorld It's not Macedonia and they're not Macedonians.
@Complex Construct HECK YEAH ITS POPCORN TIME!
@Complex Construct the two groups are: macedonian greeks and macedonians
Not once do you mention any of the ethnic history of Kosovo, as if Serbs and Albanians fought eachother for no reason.
Oh because all u knuckleheads in that region can’t let go of the past and bring up shit from the Holy Roman Empire. Your still trying have dead peoples fights. Get your friggin acts together?!!! This ain’t cute anymore!
@@Mynipplesmychoice It's clear you know absolutely nothing about the conflict, so the least you can do is refrain from minor insults and telling the people involved what they should or shouldn't do.
@@acheekybugger2369 glad to see someone still use the brain before typing. Extremely well said Sir.
And what about the ethnic history of Kosovo
Yep, Albanians were there before Serbs.
The problem is not in where the border lies but in the deep mistrust between ethnic groups. Therefore the real question should be how to reconsile people and I don't think moving borders around helps in that regard.
It's more a deep distrust of the Serbs that's ruining it. I mean for example Bosnian and Serbs that actually live in the border region have inter married and lived in peace with eachother. When Serbia invaded Bosnia to "free the Serbs", it was then thousands of Serbs who took up arms against the Serbiens forces.
@@lokalkakan Serbia has never attacked or invaded Bosnia. There was a civil war in Bosnia between Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks living in Bosnia. There were also Bosniaks who were on the Serbian side in the war. The only state that de facto and de jure attacked and invaded Bosnia was Croatia and almost destroyed Mostar.
The border has not been moved around in the last few decades. It’s simply a matter of recognition for or against Kosovo.
Lepo rečeno
zoran djipanov koga misliš
You mixed it up at 2:02
It wasn't the 1947 constitution that gave them autonomy but the 1974 one
Plus 2:44 Milošević at the time was the President of Yugoslavia, not Serbia
Also it was hardly a "widely considered a first step on a road to independence". Voyvodina is still an autonomous region that is part of Serbia.
@@Blazo_Djurovic and alsoo is 60% serbian population where are the ethnic hungarian they were 90% in vojvodina before yugoslavia what happend
@@ermal8863 Damn you youtube. I had a longer comment here.
So I'll summarize it.
Hungarians were never 90% of the population in Vojvodina. Slav settlements predate the Magyar arrival into the Panonia and even during the period of Ottoman occupation Slavs (Serbs and Croats) were the vast majority of local population. The indigenous local population of Hungarians grew during the times of Hapsburgs (Asutria and Austria Hungary) plus directed colonization of the regions to introduce Germans to the mix.
At the lowest point for Serbs, they were roughly a third of the population, while Hungarians were a quarter and Germans a fifth. There were no major changes during the period of the Kingdom.
Major change came as aftermath of bloody WWII which caused the German population to be chased away and in their place Slavs from more desititute regions were settled, which is why suddenly after WWII there was 50% Serbs from 35% pre war.
It should be noted that expulsion of non constitutional nationalities that collaborated with the Nazis was not a policy specific to Republic of Serbia as part of Yugoslavia, it happened in other parts of the nation too. Ask Croatians how almost 40% Italian population of Istria went missing between '41 and modern times.
And besides, Vojvodina did get a level of autonomy precisely because it was considerably more diverse than other parts of the country in having non Slavic residents.
@@Scorpio19110 that is actually incorrect, he was the president of the Central Committee of the League of Communists of Serbia and the first president of Serbia which was a newly created position. Yugoslavia had a presidential council as acting president and a rotational leadership, but Milošević was never one of them. It was only later down the line when Yugoslavia fell apart that he became its president, but that was FR Yugoslavia, not SFR Yugoslavia.
Poor Cyprus...it's not even a EU member anymore
I don't think Cyprus was ever part of the United Emirates.
TLDR keeps doing this. I don't know why
Because northern Cyprus is a puppet of Turkey.
@@OmarNachtraaf LOLLL it is european union
@@OmarNachtraaf Nice Joke
Hahahahahahaahhhahahahajaha As a Balkan person living in London I started following TLDR for Brexit info but I didn't think you will ever go here. Enjoy the shitstorm in the comments. hahahaha
I entertain myself regularly with Slovak friends by saying 'Well yeah, but you're really Czech, aren't you'.
im sure the comments will be civil as is the case with every video about the balkans
🤣😂
@Complex Construct indeed
@@CookieJohnFilms
don't play smart with us.
Mention of the objections to Kosovo's EU accession by Slovakia, Greece, & Romania would have been nice.
Presumably something to do with mistrust of Albanians.
Greece is afraid of ethnic albanian and or Macedonian uprising in northern Greece if they accept Kosovo as legitimate.
The Greek - Albanian enmity thing is not surprising or news. What I'm curious about is where the objections(s) from Romania & Slovakia are coming from.
romania and slovakia probably due to the ethnic hungarians. other than that I don't see any other reasons.
@@TheTrueMacedonian That has nothing to do with that lmao, and yeah Macedonians are Greek.
6:50 Cyprus is also an EU member state
And not even in Europe
@@mehmetemirkaraaslan4339 French Guiana isn't either. What is your point?
@@tristanvandervelde3569 French Guiana is part of France, which is a country in Europe
@@mehmetemirkaraaslan4339 your statement is totally worthless. There does not exist any rule that geographically defines the borders of the European Union
@@mehmetemirkaraaslan4339 French Guiana is not in Europe, neither is Cyprus. Both are part of the EU. Your comment doesn't add much value in my opinion
Unilateral declaration of independence can be extremely dangerous, especially in volatile places like the Balkans. I hope the problem resolves peacefully.
The declaration was almost 14 years ago...
Kosovo is Serbia problem solved
You know what's more dangerous? Not declaring independence when you're being genocided and ethnically cleansed after a century of discriminatory policies, colonization, forced depopulation and violations of basic human rights.
Imagine the rest of the world. Africa, Asia. It's a recipe for civil war.
@@Iamallwaysright1
1. None of that is happening in the Balkans today (at least I hope so)
2. There were precedents for peaceful divorces in the Balkan (or for that matter, in Serbia). Look up Montenegro.
Not only Catalonia, Spain would also have to let go of the Basque country and anyone who asked, including Andalusia and Galicia. In the end, Spain would be no more than Madrid and a couple of other regions. And taking into account that Catalonia and the Base country are the most economically active and richest regions beside Madrid.... Spain really doesn't want to lose them
Catalonia and Basque Country cant separete themselves from Spain unilaterally. Why? Because despite all the lies and manipulations they cant get not even 40% of the people in those regions for independence. Thats why in 2017 they tried that clowny referendum shitty thing and failed miserably. As Andalucia and Galicia...dont make me laugh. Either you know nothing about Spain or you are misleading people. Catalonia is not the richest region of Spain, its Madrid. Even more, withour the central government money Catalonia will be bankrupt. Has a debt around 50Billion euros with the central government, go figure. Oh and the Basque Country (funny name, cos as Catalonia they have never been a country) as a special agreemente with the central government that allows them to manage their finances better than the rest of Spain, totally unfair.
Catalonia and Basque should unite because they also have territories in France
@@gamermapper Regions that have never been countries have territories somewhere else...LOL
@@kikebautista2110 just like Taiwan was never a country
The western Balkans needs a negotiated process for the peaceful redrawing of borders.
Last time that happened nations would pay villagers near the borders to say they belonged to other nations and thats how we ended up with today's situation
Uh no thanks,whoever loses will be more mad than rn
The solution was Yugoslavia but the Economy got fucked and so did the country... 🤣
@@aleksandarilic93 и онда смо се распали због комуне и лажних "народности"
Whole Europe does,not only Balkan.*uck off from Balkan
Each easy to say if Kosovo will become a country, any breakaway region that is part of any country with hostile relationship with the west ultimately Europe will support it. But What if we talk about Catalan, Scotland, or maybe Corsica?
its citizens have all the rights for self governing. You cant lock people up and forcefully make them stay.
Yep, this is only tolerated cuz it's done to Serbia. If it was Florence vs Italy for example it would suddenly become a problem 😂
Well none of those regions are being ethnically cleansed by their „parent state „ so its no where near comparable
I support the independence of Kosovo just like I support the independence of other places you mentioned
Problem is that history doesn't start on 1912. How is possible that we have few hundreds of Orthodox Servian churches and monasteries on Kosovo. Actually it was but Albanians burned 150 in last 20 years.
Pff bullshit do you believe what are you writing?
Mislim da su čak više zapalili
Bud that’s the whole Balkans and most of coastal Anatolia. Even france has had hundreds of arson attacks against churches in the last couple of decades.
not true. pure milosevic's propaganda. wake up its 2021 buddy. this ain't the 90s.
@@yf181 don’t recall anyone saying hundreds got burned in one nation last year but over a few decades most def
TLDR: Makes a video about Kosovo
Serbian and Albanian Keyboard Warriors: *it's free real estate*
arab humor
@@nisckographics9408 My friend, you have stepped in the paths of Arab Memes
As a serbian i agree
Just talk about kosovo and add macedonia and you've got hell
One important thing you didnt mention… there is NO Kosovo nation, it is either Serbian or Albanian nation. There is no Kosovar ethnicity, its either Serbian or Albanian. The thing is, Kosovars as a nation do not exist, ppl declare either Albanian or Serbian. Kosovar Albanians just need independance to join Albania, not to stay and remain an independent nation.
On the other hand, there are etnic unique nations like Romas, Kurds or Palestines etc. which still dont have independent and fully recognized countries and everyone is ok with it, but all propaganda and hype is to give Albanians two countries.
@@laki991srb Romas dont have a territory but are split in large diaspora
Is a Kosovar ethnicity a requirement? Is a historical country needed to form a new nation? I'd argue a shared past is not a prerequisite for forging a shared future, plus if you look globally, other nations have large populations of non native ethnicities but those people are an integral part of that country (generations old Indian & Chinese populations across South East Asia, for example).
Closer to home, perhaps Northern Ireland could be an example. If it decided that it's people had a shared history starting at the date of partition, and that from that date to now, it'd technically be older than most European, Middle Eastern, African and Asian modern forms of government/independence. If they became a separate nation, their peoples would have no individual historical identity, but share that of the Irish Celts, the Normans, the English & Scots, yet still be able to call themselves their own country because of their own unique history, struggle and conflict in Northern Ireland that has borne what is a Northern Irish identity different to all their neighbour nations. From an outsider's viewpoint, Kosovo could argue the same point. Recent history trump's generational history and they've formed a Kosovar identity of their own, separate to others
@@niallmccourt in that case, complete UN’s international legislative should be changed if every region was allowed to become an independant country just because ppl want it nowadays. But one important thing, disrespecting laws leads to anarchy.
@@niallmccourt china and india are not nation states though.
You guys are pumping out the videos recently and they’re all very good! Keep up the great work TLDR!
Kosovo's whole claim to independence stems from being an autonomous zone during totalitarian communist regime of Yugoslavia, as well as their ethnic majority of albanians there. However, when the same type of ethnic session almost occurred in bosnia, the UN cracked down on serbs and croats, so one would believe they would be consistent in this and not support ethnic secessionism
Just maybe it wasn't a ethnic uprising in Bosnia as much as it was the Serbien army going in. I'm not an expert in ethnic conflicts but when thousands of Serbs signed up for the Bosnian army and fought a bloody war to kick the Serbien army out, it doesn't lend a lot of credit to Milosovic.
A big difference is that Bosnia is split between an equal amounts of Bosnians and Serbo-Croatians so peacekeeping was necessary to prevent genocide on either side. Kosovo, on the other-hand, is 95% Albanian at this point.
@@greysonbelmont2025 But you are looking at Bosnia as a whole and comparing it to Kosovo. Thats misleading. If you want to compare the 2 you have to do it with Republika Srpska. Republika Srpska has over 80% Serb population and Kosovo over 90% Albanian. So when we look at it like that the situation is basically the same. If Kosovo gets further into being a legitimate country I am sure that Republika Srpska will have some action on their end as well. Thats hypocrisy. Kosovo gets its independence but Republika Srpska doesn't. In my opinion none of this should be happening. Let the old borders be instead of drawing new ones based solely on ethnic lines.
First off, Yugoslava was not communist at any point. It was a mix of socialism and capitalist. Secondly, the only reason we have so much Albanians in Kosovo post WWII was because Josip Broz Tito did a thing we like to call recolonization. This is the same reason that there are Muslim and Bosnian communities in Vojvodina. He moved people around as he saw fit. Thirdly, people like to blame everything on Serbia , and while Serbia had a part to play in the atrocities of the time the fact remain that there is a bigger minority of Croats in Serbia then there is a Serbian minority in Croatia for example … if you just look at the demographics you will see a pattern. Indeed, the biggest failing of Tito is that he didn’t make Croatia pay reparations after WWII and silently swept their involvement in the Holocaust under the rug all in the name of brotherhood and unity. Yugoslavia was the worst thing to ever happen to Serbia, and as someone who was born in Yugoslavia , I am glad that it’s dead.
@@lokalkakan I am pretty sure that majority of the conflict with bosniaks was fought with Bosnian Serb armies, not the Yugoslav People's Army ("serbian army")
"some regions still fighting for independence..."
*alabama appears*
Lmao, I think that might have been Northern Ireland not Alabama
Let's just hope that everything stays safe in Kosovo. I don't want no conflict to happen, especially here in the northern part of Kosovo...
Never gonna stay safe if countries who have nothing to do with it try to make it a "country" so they can position their military there, 2004 pogroms as proof
Unfortunately reality of things is that it won't be the case.
Serbian citizens that stayed to live in Kosovo are under constant discrimination because of their nationality. Police does nothing and are most of times not sure who did what each time someone gets beaten, shot or killed.
As it stands currently it is a faux state that is heaven for all kinds of criminals and terrorists alike to prosper on that soil under blessings of America and EU.
As long as America has interests in destabilizing of European nations and forcing them to use their services, we will see no prosperity in any forseeable future.
@@Sale985 very nicely formulated
@@Sale985 serbs in Kosovo are minority of 2% and already have 10 seats in gov, and don't pay electricity bills and have all the rights to use their language etc. Meanwhile Albanians in serbia are being assimilated, being proved by just recently. Your Milosevic terrorist propaganda won't work anymore. You're lucky Albanians are peaceful and very welcoming people otherwise no other people would accept your ass after a genocide that you still deny.
@@tonikelmendi6812 Can you bring any evidence about "assimilation" of Albanians in southern Serbia or is it just another lie made up by Albanians? Also, speaking about "genocide" in Kosovo, I haven't heard before that population of an ethnic group can grow up after genocide.
Can your next video be on North Macedonia? You could talk about the greek dispute, the Bulgarian dispute and it's accession in to the eu.
This channel is not good for these kinds of topics. He's covering geopolitics, laws and etc. But that has nothing to do with Balkan ethnic clashes
That would be truly interesting, since it feels from an informed outsider's point of view, that North Macedonia is just having a tough time because Greece is too sensitive about the name Macedonia and Bulgaria wants to establish Macedonian as a dialect of their language. But I am sure there is more to it, the language argument feels pretty foolish tough. Because what divides a language from a dialect has always been pretty subjective.
Македонија само. Не треба да те учам.
@@nikolamilosevski6424 да ама после кој ќе ги трпи Грците.
@Ararune I want to see your reaction towards a country which is not even 30 years old, that tries to basically steal your History, Culture and language. Its easy for you to talk about this topic because you have nothing to do with them.
I've left a dislike because the video has missed some pretty big points, which is not to say that this video is bad per se:
1) I believe it's fundamentally wrong to start talking about Kosovo as an entity starting with 1912. The whole argument of the Serbian side is in it's history, monuments and sacral objects that are present in Kosovo and Metohija. Thus, pretty much the entirety of the Serb arguments were just thrown out of the window at the very beginning, while Kosovo* was only talked from the demographic perspective, speaking of which:
1931 census
Albanians: 331,549 (60.06%)
Serbs, Croats, Slovenes and Macedonians: 180,170 (32.64%)
Hungarians: 426 (0.08%)
Germans: 241 (0.04%)
other Slavs: 771 (0.14%)
other: 38,907 (7.05%)
2) The agreements that you're talking about so optimistically are nothing more than a facade. Serbia has only done it to open up EU to investments and try to wrestle out more autonomy for Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija. Kosovo* signed it to fool the EU as well, and though it signed the agreement that says they agree to the formation of "Union of Serb Municipalities", it has been 8 years and they still fundamentally reject this idea.
3) Serbia, as an entire country (not just it's government) is for the frozen conflict solution. It knows that the current geo-political balance of power is stacked heavily against them, but they hope that with the strengthening of China (Serbia's largest ally after Russia), they'll have more of a say in Kosovo's* future in the next 20 or so years, while US is slowly pulling out of all of their protectorates - Kosovo being one of them (as we saw with Afghanistan).
4) 2004 unrest or as it's better known - Pogrom was not violence between two sides, it was mainly Albanians chasing out remaining Serbs. I will not wield the stats here as I deem that's not wise, but one can safely say that thousands of Serbs were forced to flee from their homes during the Pogrom. Not to mention how many ancient monuments were burned and desecrated.
Помаже Бог
Јер си ти из Никшића
Ја сам сад у Сутомору дођи да ђе киднапујеш
Lol here comes the Chetnik propaganda. Your whole page is typical from a Serb whose nation is slowly dying out. How many Albanians did you chase out in 1912 when the Ottomans were kicked out ?, how many Albanians did you expel from Toplica in1878 to clear out Nish from all Albanians ?.
Vojvodina has historically always been Hungarians until Serbs stole it by violent demographic replacement (Serbs went from 33% of population 1931 to 70% as of today) ... will you give the historical Hungarian land back to the original owners ? . Give back the land you stole Chetnik.
I've gotta say, as a Serb I know how hard this topic can be, and you handled it, well perfectly, you were neutral and the video is well informed, good job!
not really, he failed to mention very important topics such as the genocide u did and the fact that Kosovo is 97% albanian.
Well if he were to say something as inaccurate as that (I mean the Genocide part not the population percentage that is true) he wouldn't be neutral would he?
Anyways that is where this conversation stops, I don't want to argue I was just praising the video for it's well informed content, and neutrality on the given topic.
@@pr0si0nalizm20 not mentioning a well documented and very important thing such as the killing of 10 000 albanians and the disappearance of many other thousands (since u don’t wanna call it a genocide) is not neutrality.
@@Gold26502 open a book and look up for the meaning of the word genocide before u comment
Serbs were a majority in kosovo and metohija, nowdays serbs make about 10% so i wonder who did genocide on who
Just don’t behave as if albanians were the only victims, it’s primitive. Acknowledge crimes from both sides
But it’s fine bc you were being taught to hate serbs and u only hear about crimes that serbs did, as well as we hear only about crimes that albanians did in our country. Just be more open minded bc ur mind is being poisoned by this
Victims are victims, and there are a lot of them on both sides so the problem is way more complicated than your one sided opinion
@Serbonian Bog we are the majority because your attempt on successfully ethnically cleansing us was unsuccessful, thats the only reason 1.9Million Albanians were able to return, also just because the UN doesn’t label it as a genocide doesnt mean that it wasn’t, there wasn’t enough accusations and observations done to declare you as guilty because all balkan countries are pussies, but now Kosovo is gonna make a change and it’s gonna sue serbia through Albania for a well documented genocide everything will go into place and justice will be served, ur complaining about the serbs killed, what did you expect? for us to be attacked and not attack you back? that’s like if a turk blamed us for ottoman deaths when they were the aggressor, u are no different from them.
Not sure if you were aware of the comment section pandemonium coming your way after such a video while you were preparing it :) And I say that as a Serb.
Dw, as a Kosovan, I am scrolling with one eye peaking through my fingers XD knowing the chaos that's about to unravel.
@@Conosis "as an Albanian".
I thought so too, but it actually looks remarkably calm.
@@realisticguy569 he could be serbian
@@mracke47 I agree, he should say clearly because "being Kosovan" isn't a nation. :)
Kosovo?Yes is a region in Serbia, hi from Romania
Lol🇽🇰
Wenn du so denkst, dann komm mal vorbei 🇽🇰
Transylvania?Yes is a region in Hungary, hi from Albania
@@181ld7 Hungary?Yes is a region in Romania
@iris kamberi Albanian anthem is a romanian patriotic song😂
Because of all the comments about Cyprus being an EU member state, do one about the possibility of reunification of the nation or recognition of Turkish Cyprus. I would be curios what you guys would deem more likely, because as I see it right now, it's going in neither direction.
it would never happen
Because it's a part is UE
And they didn't put it there
Maybe??????
Turkish troops should leave northern part of Cyprus
@@spartanhokage9968 your mom
extra option, what about Turks leaving our country and let us live in peace? 😊 So simple, yet we have to do with Turkey, out of all the nations...Turkey. It's really a curse having it as neighbor (ask ANYONE).
6:52 Cyprus "Am I not a EU state for You?"
You forgot to mention why is Kosovo so important to serbs.
It wasn't important to Serbs it became important they didn't care about Kosovo, it was the poorest and the least developed part of Yugoslavia.
@Ararune Yes that's what I'm saying, Kosovo was unimportant to Serbia, after Kosovo declared independence Serbs started claiming "Kosovo is the heart of Serbia".
@Ararune I'm Albanian myself and I want all the Balkans to have peace 🇦🇱🇽🇰❤️🇭🇷
@@roki4682 that happened because of communist. But we didn't realize how important that is before NATO took it
@mo gamer Yes, I'm against the mismanagement or destruction of serbian monasteries in Kosovo 😊
How did Serbia get the conrol over the land of kosovo after the 1st World War? You just skipped a extremely important point :D nice try TLDR but this is not really explaining anything without the missing information
Kosovo was territory of Serbia before ww1.
@@ninoslavdamnjanovic1623 They didn't state the opposite. Why are you mentioning it?
When you start talking about something that has a millenia of history, you can't just mention it's lats 100 years. It doesn't clear anything up.
Thets the point.
@@KING-ef2wm that's*
@@ShayNoMore1 if you have nothing beter to do then to corect peoples grammar online in a coment section where people from all ower the world talk you have some mental isues.
@@KING-ef2wm issues*
Correct*. Better*
People* no s bro
Over*
No one who lived a millennium ago is alive today. It's important to remember and acknowledge history (including the bad parts) but at some point, it's also just history. Whatever some guys in the 1100s did, really shouldn't have much influence on how we treat other people today.
He can't talk about early Albanian history in Kosovo because there is none.
That terittory is not Kosovo, its Kosovo and Metohija...
I am Portuguese so, my answer is: yes it does. It is a sovereign country
@altin kamberi and I hope to be able to visit your wonderful country soon!
I am Serb so, my answer is :no
lol
Why not 1:02 ? Go to the history and u will see why Serbia won't recognize Kosovo.
there's nothing complicated here, Serbia caused genocide in Kosovo trying to ethnically clean it from Albanians and we didn't want any of that, Serbia started the war on us saying we are oppressing Serbs when it was the opposite, 90% of the cops in Kosovo were serbs and remember 90% of the population was Albanians just think about that and tell me who oppressed who !?
Sounds a bit like Russia and Ukraine
@@siyacer it is the same excuse to start the war
@7:49 That is because people mean different things by the word country. However, what you're talking about here is a sovereign-state. There are four criteria and they are widely accepted: It must have a permanent/settled population, demarcated territory, an entity that has a monopoly on violence within that territory (i.e. a government) and the ability to enter into relations with other states. Recognition is not a requirement, but simply helps the cause of sovereignty and international relations. Any deviation from this is generally a politically inspired sophistic detraction from reality.
By that measure plenty of "countries" would not fit the definition since there is no monopoly on violence within that territory. Is Afghanistan not a "country" since the Taliban controls territory? Or Burma/Myanmar, where the government has never had a monopoly on violence over all its supposed territory since independence?
@@charlesmadre5568 Like any country in a civil war, its status as a sovereign state is muddied. This is why control of the capital is often so important. Technically, in academic terms, Afghanistan is a territory with two sovereign states, the Taliban controlled Afghanistan and the Kabul controlled Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.
Kosovo doesnt have a settled population as there are tens of thousands of Serbs waiting to return that arent allowed too. Secondly the so called "government" there doesnt have control over the entire territory.... KFOR does.
Ah... The possible home country of Niko Bellic. Brings back some childhood memories of GTA 4.
I don’t get it, Wasn’t Nico Bellic Serbo-Croatian?
He's from Kosovo?
@@grims2947 GTA 4 never mentioned where was Niko born exactly in former Yugoslavia. The game talked about the war in his “home country,” so the first thing that came to my mind was the 1998 Kosovo War.
@@mab9614 But the bloodiest One was a Bosnian War of 1995.
Ive never played GTA so idk anything about that Niko guy, but there were wars in Bosnia and Croatia during the nineties, also there was a relatively short war in Slovenia
The court ruling ruled that the declaration itself is not illegal but they did not rule whether the declaration equals automatic sovereignty.
I think you forgot to mention a couple of things there, for instance the fact that the US actually registered the KLA as a terrorist organisation until they saw that they could exploit the situation economically and politically, then theres also the fact that resolution 1244 states that kosovo is part of serbia. Lastly the fact that kosovos independence didn't go against anything and was deemed as legal was because it was declared by its so called democratic leaders, so it didn't come from any government body or institution. Thats like me declaring my kitchen independent. I can do it, but it doesn't mean that it's actually true. Oh and one more thing, you forgot to mention that "kosovo" hasn't fulfilled any obligations in all of its agreements, like the majority serb municipalities (ZSO) has still not been formed 9 years later.
First off I’d like to remind you off the cetniks in Serbia and the war criminals if that time that exploited and ethnic cleansed 1.46 million Albanians from Kosovo resulting in 90% of the population being removed, there are still mass graves in Serbia being found that have been hidden by the Serbian regime for years, not to mention that Serbia commuted more than 3 genocides 4+ ethnic cleansing and the biggest crimes against humanity since the war. Let’s also not mention the 225 out of 400 mosques were vandalized and Serbs don’t even try to hide their islamophobia today by vandalizing mosques in Montenegro, whilst Serbia’s motive to war was islamophobic reasons Kosovo was freedom of the oppressing regime, so I find it quite rich coming from Serbs calling KLA a terrorist group when they even killed Albanians whom were trying to commit war crimes, whilst cetniks were encouraged and are seen as “heroes” to the Serbs today. Now I don’t think you understand the meaning of the 1244 resolution. The UN agreed upon a force governing Kosovo after the war, until the final status of the region was resolved later in the future (which it has been). Therefore 1244 resolution called it a province of Serbia until dialogue would determine the state and the aftermath, after failed dialogue US encouraged Kosovo to become independent and so of all the western countries. That’s why Serbs still complicate it because they think the beginning of the resolution still applies to when Kosovo was a province in Yugoslavia whilst the resolution has made immaculate process with the help of other countries and therefore the resolution has concluded to that the region has become an independent and sovereign state of Kosovo. Not to mention that the Serbs in Kosovo have all rejected the deal and promised the Serb leaders to resist according to the Brussels meeting. Not to mention that Kosovo’s assembly agreed to the deal whilst the Serb parliament refused to vote on the agreement as well, because of doing so they were scared that they would constitute recognition of Kosovo. So there you go hope you learned something. :)
Somehow i have a feeling u are serbian
Serb cope harder😭🤷♂️🤣
@@shlomoshlomo963 so if a Serb is stating facts they should be ignored since he/she is Serbian? That's actually a very racist comment Shlomo. If I say Serbia lost 25% of its population in WW1 or that more than 6 million Jewish people were killed in WW2 is also a lie because Serb said it? This is exactly why social media platforms are dangerous, it gives ignorant people the platform to offend others and spread disinformation.
@@partizanbgd0113 bruh what? Did u even read my comment? Do u know what a joke is?
27 % of serbia population died in ww1 this is a fact, tho what the person above wrote is a very long rant about why he don't think kosovo should exist which is something serbs get laughed at a lot online ( for their over the top nationalism) so i made a joke
What if most of regions around Europe asked for indipendence based on historical past ? We D end up with 40 / 50 countries __Barmy idea
The problems are: Kosovo is not a nation (it's a region in Serbia with vast Albanian majority), Kosovo didn't fulfill any of the agreements it signed (the one in 2013 and 2018), plus it's working against the resolution 1244. Not to mention that history didn't start at 1912 but ok. I wouldn't have a problem with Kosovo being an independent state, if it was a rule for all, including the Serbs who live in Bosnia, Croatia and even parts of Kosovo. If Serbs can't have that right, why should Albanians have the right to get a second country? The countries that don't recognize Kosovo didn't recognize it because they know it's against international law, it has nothing to do with the fact that they like or dislike Serbs or Albanians. Same goes for those who did recognize it, they did it under the pressure of the Western powers. So if Kosovo wants to be independent, it should first learn to implement the agreements it signed, stop the repression of the few thousands Serbs left there and stop deleting every trace of Serbian history and culture in that place using a disgusting propaganda campaign. Secondly, the Serbs in Bosnia should atleast get the same rights like Albanians in Kosovo for self-determination. In any other case, Serbia won't recognize this fake state and no one can do anything to change our minds.
And history didnt start in 1389.
It started in 4th century BC with the kingdom of dardania.
Get some brains.
@@gigasigma8373 that’s the only thing you have to say against my arguements? 😂 fyi Dardanians weren’t Albanians, it was 2500 years ago. It’s like Macedonians claiming Alexander the great
@mo gamer People change their names.
The name Albanian comes from the tribe Albani which is a latin version of the name Arban which is also the name of medieval albania, Arberia.
Scotland was called Alba aswell, yet today its Scotland.
France was called Gaul, now its france and etc.
Shqipetar is said to come from the word "excipere" from latin which means "to speak clearly" or the more mythological one, that it derives from the name for eagle which in albanian is Shqiponje.
Kosovo is historical Chinese territory
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....since ancient times
You forgot to say that you weren't sponsored by the PRC.
...damn ...my family in the mainland is now doomed
Kosovo is recognised by 117 countries of the world, by most of the europian countries and by many of international organisations, by most of the democratic, economic and powerfull countries as US, UK, Germany, France, Japan, Canada, Australia, Italy, Turkey and so many others. So Kosovo is an indepedent country. END OF THE STORY.
@@Wolverine-ky9gk you talkin about those countries in Africa who still eat mud to survive? we dont need their recognition. they should ensure to give its citizens basic human needs and then...perhaps be a part of some international decision.
Yeah but not from the country it wants to free from so it wont be even independent.
This video totally neglects foreign interest and the reasons why "Kosovo" was supported by the West. First of all the succession of Kosovo breaks up the region even more making it easier for exploitation, gives NATO a harbour in the Balkans (Bondsteel), also it gives them free access to the natural resources of Kosovo and Metohija. They were not there to help them because they are good, they came there with interests. Not to mention that NATO had no right to intervene. This was a local conflict which they transferred to a global geopolitical problem.
Except Kosovo has been independent for almost 14 years now so I’m not quite sure how their recognition as a valid government would be “exploitation”
Disagree, why would the chance of exploitation increase instead of decrease if they're currently stuck with neighbors on all sides that do not like them? If they get independence and join the EU, the neighboring countries will be forced to allow free trade.
And also I know people who I play cs with who live in Kosovo and genuinely witnessed some real shit like, no, it is entirely within NATO's & the UN's rights to intervene in a combat which escalated to executions of non-combatants
PromethiumOxide they stepped in as a response to ethnic cleansing.
@@Masterrunescapeer No country in Kosovos neighborhood is in EU.
As a result of their backing of Kosovo independence western powers have taken control of most mining industry in Kosovo, that's the resource exploitation.
Serbia is like that guy who can’t get over the fact his gf broke up with him and still thinks they are together
@Tor you get what I’m saying??
Fax
@@SuperS3KT0R no printer!
@@pattonjeffrey6 LOL.
@@christwarrior9124 tell me it’s not accurate
Kosovo
You mean Serbia?
kosovo isn't serbia
hey big fan of your channel but i think the ottoman map has a tiny mistake. the area south of Kuwait in saudi arabia (modern day al-ahsa in the eastern province of SA) was also ottoman territory.
By 1912 it wasn't under Ottoman control & that's what the map shows.
They are part of UEFA as an independent country and for a small country they aren't even that bad.
They are for all intensive purposes a state. Serbs can live in denial all they want. They caused 4 bloody wars in the 90s by trying to carve up independent, ethnically pure Serb states ... and then get made Albanians don't want to live with them. Nobody does. They will loose Vojvodina and Sandzak next.
@@horvatlovren7198 Kako bi mogla Vojvodina da se otcepi
The real reason why Serbs dont want Kosovo to be independent is because its the heart of their national identity, and it was for meny meny years, you make it look like Kosovo wanted independents from the start, but thats not true since it was majority Serbian until in the 1960 large populations of Albanians started migrating towards Kosovo and Serbians started migrating towards Belgrade, long story short, Albanians wanted independents because they were a majority at the time, Kosovo today is definitely independent and that should be respected, even tho Im sad since it is the heart of Serbian national identity. Also I'm not replying to any Albanian or Serbian nationalists or any nationalist in general
@gatheringtonKosovo had a big army and cleansed Serbs you are claiming. Also did Tito jailed some Serbs because they did crimes toward Kosovo Albanians. how can a population that in ex Yugoslavia never ruled Kosovo can clean other ethnic groups.
TLDR, you recently explained Esperanto on your Global channel. Can you explqin Toki Pona, the minimalist language as well? I think it deserves more awareness. Thanks for reading
Pona mute! 😇
Serbia: "Serbs in former Yugoslav nations should get their independence."
Kosovo: "We're Albanian, can we get independence from you?"
Serbia: "NO!"
Nato: HE SAID THE N WORD
You know they are only recently majority Albanian, right? They had to expel the Serbian population during the war
Yet Serbs in former Yugoslav nations did *not* get their independence while all others did
@@It9LpBFS37 the closet thing that really happened to it is maybe Bosnia because of the recognition of majority of serb and croat territories
@@jairiske "republika srpska" rings any bell...what happened with Croats and Bosniaks??
Just like Israel, Serbia did a lot of ethnic cleansing on what was once Albania land.
I am Serbian, and to be honest as a young resident of my country I'd be the first one to say yes for Kosovo's independence as it is making so much trouble in our lives. It would be much better if we can all live together like people and not to make difference between Serbian and Albanian ppl. I mean come on government of Serbia..
My friend, can i move to your house and later claim it for myself and accuse you of being an invader, aggressor? That's exactly what happened when Albanians moved to our land in Kosovo.
jesi ti svestan kolko svetinja smo imali na Kosovu dok siptari nisu unistili prisilno 2004? Jesi svestan od kad su najvece svetinje?
I am a Serb here to wish the dispute ends peacefully, however I must say this video leaves a bad taste in my mouth. it is entirely ridiculous to start the discussion from 1912, the reason why Kosovo is seen as so important by the rest of Serbia is because the first Serbian country was established on that land all the way back before the year 1000. Along with Serbian history being written on this land in 1389 at the battle of Kosovo against the Ottoman empire. It is our roots as a country and people, it is our, Serbian land as much as Paris is French, as much as London is British as much as Washington is American, As wiser people have said, it is a sin to recognize Kosovo as it's own country while the rest of Serbia exists, I could not see a single comment from a fellow Serb on this matter, probably due to censorship, but if you see this, while I do not claim that this is the opinion of all Serbs, it is at least the vast majority. If Paris wanted independence, I wonder how the French would respond, this is all I shall say on this matter.
Yet Albanians have been living there since antiquity, you only came there in 6th century
@@DinaricUbermensch Ah, if it isn't the 'Illyrian master race' argument, though I could be wrong, since there is no lack of bias in this topic since it concern politics (of the Balkans no less), linking the people that lived there in the ancient times with modern day Albanians to the point of calling them the same people seems a little disingenuous to me, however, that said, I can still see where you are coming from, but it does not make Kosovo any less important to us, only makes it not ONLY important to us, which to me does not change much of anything. At the very least thank you for responding civilly.
@@nikolaristicii-9995 The three most common Albanian haplogroups have been found in cultures which would later on be called "Illyrian". E1b-L618 which is the father clade of E-V13 was found in Dalmatia, R1b-Z2103 was found in the Vucedol cultural area and J2b2-L283 was found in a proto-Illyrian site in Croatia. Also autosomally Albanians are close to the Neolithic samples from the Balkans, Our language has latin words that date back to roman era illyrian and is related to messapic which is also related to illyrian.
@@nikolaristicii-9995 You stole kosovo from the albanians, albanians are the only people that descend from the illyrians, u were never even in the balkans during their time and came here in 6th century and then started to forcefully steal it from the very small surviving group of illyrian descendants that escaped roman empire and sought refuge in the Dinaric alps (the albanians)
There is no such thing as an "official country". The US and the UK have recognised Kosovo's independence, so these countries regard Kosovo as just as legitimate and "official" as Indonesia, Paraguay or Portugal. China and Russia think otherwise. There is nothing mysterious about this, it's just that sovereign states take different positions on the issue, as they are indeed entitled to.
They're hypocrites. They don't support it when Crimea, Abkhazia and South Ossetia declare independence and because Russia supported the liberation, they claim it's "occupied". Well then, Kosovo is occupied too!
@@gamermapper The devil lies on the small print. by the Yugoslavians constitution all 6 republics and 2 autonomic provinces hade the right of independence. Now I'm not sure that that is the case with the regions that you are mentioning. And as far as I know it was not Ukraine army that went and occupies Crimea or Donbas at that time very peaceful regions of Ukraine , but it was Russia that wanted to grab land.
@@gamermapper none of the places you commented about had genocide committed against them . Hell in abkhazia separatists committed ethnic cleansing against Georgian majority there
It’s already been mentioned here, but just to reinforce the point: the Republic of Cyprus 🇨🇾 is an EU member state. This is a basic fact that your team should have been aware of. Anybody can Google this on their smartphones in literally a few minutes.
@hooman Hitler as your profile pic? Damn…
Are you trying to critique his staff, you make me laugh.
@@redtigergaming1467 You have a problem with requesting basic competence? I shudder to think how you live your own life.
@@kevinm.7209 No i don't but every viewer and his whole team knows that Cyprus it's an EU Member State. You're pointing a fact they forgot to put not cause they didn't know that. Is those types of corrections that anyone can do and by disavalueing their work to correct a point which they forgot or something went wrong on the video is not really appreciated. And how i live my life?
That was not a cool thing to add there, you're really bothering about that for only one sentence i said? You sound like a really judgemental person and rude. I'm out.
@@redtigergaming1467 Re-read your own comment, and think how it would have made you feel if someone had written that to you. My point was a fair one. TLDR owe it to their viewers to present correct basic facts, and as I pointed out, I wasn’t the first to call them out on this. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes, but a professional operation still has a duty meet minimal standards.
Also, it’s not enough to say that everyone knows Cyprus is an EU member. For various reasons some people simply don’t know, and will come away with the wrong impression from this video. Part of the TLDR’s purpose, I am sure, is to be educational and informative, to have people be a bit more knowledgeable about a given topic after they’ve watched a TLDR video.
Furthermore, I don’t mean to come across as attacking the TLDR team. As I’ve said, we all make mistakes, myself of course included. Again, what I do expect from them is correctly stating basic facts, and correcting mistakes made.
Finally, I’d like to apologise for my comment about your life. You are right that that was uncalled for, and I hope you’ll read all this and can accept my apology. But at the same time, I would ask you to consider how you frame your reaction to others’ comments. Maybe next time write a fuller response, rather than one line ending in: “You make me laugh” (that’s not cool either), and more broadly implying TLDR is above any criticism. Thanks.
Every time there is a video on whether a country is a country the Montevideo convention is always forgotten about.
Well, Kosovo is not in the Americas.
Kosovo fullfills the points of it btw...
@@didyouthinkaboutthis and the basically the whole world isnt in europe but most countries are still signed to the geneva conventions. Where the treaty was signed isnt important who signs up to it is and it just so happens that the eu as an organisation has signed it.
@@albinh.3149 oh yeah, absolutely. I think Kosovo should be recognised as a nation for no other reason that they fulfill the definition. I just wish TLDR would at least acknowledge the convention exists.
@@jameshicks1114 Indeed. Tho some points he wrote actually reflected the Convention in some parts.
Specially Spain?
Try to do some studies on Hungary from WWI. Onwards.
Also check the ethnic map of the Carpathian basin. Romania and Slovakia have a better reason than Spain to worry. ;)
Hungary this, hungary that, WWI and again you are sad.
So a country with many ethnically diverse regions like Spain should worry less than Romania that has a one small minority surrounded by a sea of Romanians.
But but hungry hungary is so stronk and important.
I didn't mean it that way. You could also name gypsies in Romania, Slovakia, Hungary.
But clearly Orban is playing much bigger than the size and population of the country would suggest. So might worth looking into it. ;)
Also Spain is much more Historically united and solid setting than anything in Eastern Europe and specially the Balkan countries...
The Balkan Peninsula is always a difficult region to talk about. Kosovo might not be recognized a country in the foreseeable future.
It will be recognised. Kosovo has no importance to any Serb anymore. Its only the old people whixh still talk about it. The Kosovo hate will probably end in a decade or two.
If Serbia tends to get Kosovo back, the ww3 might as well start. Kosovo belongs to its population that lives there which is 95% Albanians and 5% of other ethnicities.
There will be no peace in BALKANS until the Albanian problem will be solved. Great European powers created this shit during ww1 and they have to deal with it, otherwise all Europe will be set in fire.
WE NEVER FORGET
@@sm3675 North Kosovo is important to us, we dont care about rest of Kosovo. Most important things in Balkan for us are Republic of Srpska in Bosnia and Montenegro.
@@МладиГангстер that is the thing. Vucic keeps blocking Kosovo and in that process he is also blocking the northen part. That is why when a proposal of landswitch between Albanian populated parts of Serbia and Serbian populated parts of Kosovo came the Kosovar part didn't agree because he was likely to ask for more and start a war.
this is really good impartiality on such a sensitive issue. thank you TLDR.
I feel stupid. I thought Kosovo 🇽🇰 was already independent. I remember the bombing of Yugoslavia I was a teenager then.
De-facto they are. De-jure they are not.
Kosovo is independent you were right !
@@filip6702 Indirect. De-Jure they are partitially independent due to their partitial recognition.
Im here for the comments, i brought my own hazmat suit.
You missed the part that in un resolution 1244 the Kosovo AND METOHIJA is a part of Serbia!
Well the ICJ fixed that part so it didn't matter.
Kosovo has been Albanian land since way before 1244, Albanians are native to the balkans whereas Serbs migrated in the 5th-6th century, Its not your land, and it never will be
You should make a video on Transnistria, the other defacto independent but not widely recognized state in europe. It's quite interesting and not very well known.
Personally I think that Kosovo has more than enough justification to form their own nation or to join in with Albania. Albanian is a completely different language from Serbian. If Croatia and Montenegro deserve their independance from Serbia, which mind you speak languages very similar to Serbian, than so does Kosovo. The only countries who are against Kosovo's independance are countries with their own opressed minorities.
that doesnt make any sense, if i go my your logic where is the Country for Kurds, Sinti and Roma? just because you Speak another Language doesnt mean you are qualified for your own Recognised Country. Funny that you think Kosovo or for that case even Albania doesnt oppresses minorities. when Roma were forced to speak the Albanian Language and were prohibited to speak their romani language otherwise they would be killed.
@@youknowme2003 I agree with u
@@youknowme2003 According to the Balkan standard, Kosovo meets all the conditions to become a state. Serbia is not a country of 100 million inhabitants but only of 5 million Serbs in Serbia. And they can not keep almost 2 million Albanians occupied inside Kosovo. By the way Kosovo has more inhabitants than Macedonia and Montenegro.
@@lindybr3716 I bet you won't talk the same with DPR and LPR. Basically the same as Kosovo
@@elfbeaned where are you from?
Kosovo is part of SERBIA
Whole History of Serbian Nation is in Kosovo.
While the video was done well and I appreciate the interest in the region, it is worth mentioning that the requirement in the Brussels agreement to create a community of Serb municipalities was never upheld by Kosovo*, which has led to further scepticism for any big deal to actually happen.
While the video was well done and i appreciate it ! It is worth mentioning that Serbia still denies genocide done in Kosovo also in Balkan.
More than 1000 albanians innocent people massacred by serbian army still buried somewhere in Serbia never returned to their family.
While the video was done well and I appreciate the interest in the region, it is worth mentioning Albanians trafficking human organs of captured Serb civilians, ethnocide and culturicide that continues today, resulting in the ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Serbs from Kosovo and a large number of destroyed churches, monasteries and cemeteries. In essence, everything that proves that Serbs lived in Kosovo.
While the video was done well and I appreciate the interest in the region, the serbian defamation campaign against Kosovo which is built up mostly on lies trying to deflect from their own wrongdoings has been disproven countless times since never has their ever even been a trial for such a heinous accusation but also the main propagator dick Marty a swiss politician who spread these accusations on servian payroll lead nowhere.
Funniest thing now is that the swiss secrets service covered up an assassination plot from the servian government against him with the goal to pin it on albanians. He lives now with constant police protection and in fear to be offed since he knows the truth
It all belongs to me
DRUUUUUZE TITO mi ti se kuneeeemo!
Druže Tito samo reci, letićemo kao metci!
🇷🇸 🇧🇦 🇲🇪 🇭🇷 🇸🇮 🇽🇰 🇦🇱
All in Yugoslavia
@@gamermapper yes Yugoslavia best
They are self goverent. That is all you need to be a country. What other people think doesn't matter. The same holds true with Taiwan.
no not really, its not eligible to be a country as soon as its self governed
Well that's what China is doing, they make any moves they feel like and don't give a crap about what other countries think. that ain't totally right
@@JovanLemon "Suppose you see a bird walking around in a farm yard. This bird has no label that says 'duck'. But the bird certainly looks like a duck. Also, he goes to the pond and you notice that he swims like a duck. Then he opens his beak and quacks like a duck. Well, by this time you have probably reached the conclusion that the bird is a duck, whether he's wearing a label or not"
I don't think that's the locution,@@DaDunge 😅
@@quidam_surprise Pardon?
A 10 min video is not enough for this...
Maybe recommending some channels who have talked about this in depth would be a good idea?
Serbian mapping, the name may make you think its biased but it is set on pure and stable evidence. And it's not nationalist.
@@RA7KO it pretty much is nationalist, the earliest proof he could find was after the 10th century, he didn't bother to put kosovos 500-700 more year written history on his video, guess why? Huh whatever he said and the proof he gave was propaganda and false made by serbian people, they could never stand being the immigrants in their own country and not being able to get albanian land for hundreds of years thinking they are superior
Saying that Serbian mapping is not a nationalist is a very big lie. Just look at his video talking about the serbian-bulgarian relations throught history and you can see that he puts most of the blame for the bad relations on the bulgarian side. He doesn't even talk about the terrible things that the serbs did to the bulgarians during the Yugoslavian times.
Its not controversy, its a fact, Kosovo is Serbia.
why didn't you mention what milosevic did in kosovo after taking the autonomous status
Let the EU recognize Kosovo as an "entity" but leave actual recognition of independence as a state up to each individual member. Admit the "entity" into both Schengen & Eurozone automatically when Serbia is admitted. This way everyone gets what they want and can believe that Kosovo is independent or part of Serbia without affecting the actual function of anything.
I agree with most of things, but not with the end of the video.
Kosovo has not strict borders. Circulation of people to Serbia and Albania is unchecked.
Many people of Kosovo still have Serbian documents, as Serbia maintains parallel institutions, and Serbian ones give you more freedom and are recognized in all countries. Serbia still considers everyone living in Kosovo as own citizen.
Kosovo has no economy. War was 22 years ago, and yet most people still live of from aid, which could be from Serbian government, UN, US, EU or from family members living abroad.
Many times Kosovo Albanian that has Serbian passport, when causes trouble in EU, they say it was 'Serbian' or 'Serbian citizen', but never Kosovar.
I have no bad feelings toward Kosovo or Albanians. But for something to be truly independent, it has to not depend on anybody else. It is like leaving your parents, just to move to flat next door, but they still pay for it and send you food to eat, while you have no job.
nicely explained
In 6:49 why you didn't include Cyprus as an EU member opposed to Kosovo's independence?
Case closed, Kosovo is independent!
Finally something thats not Western European, wohoo
Using the logic of the Serbian position, why shouldn't Germany get back its eastern territories?
Because they agreed to give them up. Serbia was never made to sign similar document. Kumanovo document and resolution 1244 both state that Kosovo is a part of Serbia under temporary UN administration.
Serbia was recognized as a UN member state with sovereignty over the territory of Kosovo*, Germany was not (over "it's" eastern territories), it's really as simple as that.
@@luka1431 Most major powers recognised Germany's borders before WW2 also.
@@ryanfinn5544 It's not how "we" as the UN, as the international community, agreed to recognize state sovereignty.
They did get it back, that's why DDR isn't independent
Kosovo is the greatest political robbery of our time, and the greatest criminal supermarket in the world.
It was never meant to be a country, just a black market where you can literally buy human parts if you try hard enough
Bla bla bla sure it is the most criminal part of kosovo is north Mitrovica i wonder why
@@tulyyyuck4820 source?
The most criminal country in the world is serbia
@@blockie9706 yes because of you Albanians on Kosovo.
@@uroskovacevic2743 Nah serbia did also genocides in Bosnia, Croatia and other countries in 90s wars not only in Kosovo, you also started World War I, you're the Nazi karen of Balkan
Not to sound butthurt or anything, but this video is not very good, for such a complex topic you need real research and more than 10min time.
Bottom line is that the US has managed to divide the Balkan nations into smaller that can be influenced. Divide and conquer. And we fight on whether we should divide even more or not. Kosovo is a very useful place for the US to establish bases and control the whole Balkan peninsula. This is all what it is about.
OK i hear you, but how does it do that? Explanation: Facts please, not fiction or opinions.
Yes American troops in srebernica I remember
@@sababugs1125 where the casualties were equal from both sides if you take into account the villages around Srebrenica. Glad you mentioned it
So, you rolled the clock back exactly at that point in time where it is comfortable to say Kosovo yes should be a country by its own. But if you go back in history from the beginning you will sea how Kosovo is in fact a deep part of Serbia legacy. Who are you paid by to make these videos???
Most EU and western nations recognise Kosovo as a legitimate country. So as far as I'm concerned it's a real country. Do Taiwan next xD
Well Taiwan or as they entered the UN as republic of China/ Chinese Taipei
Was withdrawn their membership due to the fact big fatty arse apeshit China / Beijing bullied Taiwan