The reason why blinding nades are doing more on impact than spikes is more than likely due to how impact damage is calculated. The lower the blast radius stat, the higher the impact damage and vice versa. Since blinding nades drops blast radius to 0 it just happens to be more damage than the flat impact bonus provided by spikes. Also notice how with spikes the impact damage was about 13k but when you swapped to forbearance it was around 10k since it had nothing to drop blast radius or give impact damage, so it definitely seems like it is working.
Tbh, as somebody with over 3k kills on undercurrent (demo+voltshot), there's still no real reason to use it over a forbearance w/chain reaction. If you don't have a forebearance w/that roll, then undercurrent is a great arc wave frame GL
@@LittleCrowYTyeah it’s a good new player weapon since it’s not tied to any dlc. I’m sure you can still get brave weapons from onslaught (not shiny) but that’s such a crap shoot without focusing
Spike and Proxy nades being here confirms it to me that this is not intentional, as undercurrant ist not mean to hit anything directly like that and Proxy nades just doesn't make sense if you think about it. So this really doesn't seem like it was intended as it wasn't tuned to this scenario
fyi, blinding is different than 'disorienting'...blinding can apply to anything and can stun unstops, disorienting is ignored by bosses and champions...that's why they changed it from 'blinding grenades' to 'disorienting grenades'
Yeah I like running that on my warlock with forbearance. I Wana say Bungie is trying out new building crafting weapons. Kinda like what they did with prismatic
I play with blinding gl for a long time now and its not a dps weapon at all, it's only a cc weapon. I pair it with Wishender and its a powerful combo that will keep you alive and clean enemies fast.
From my further time playing with it, it really is. The wave does the blinding, but sense wave frames are good at add clear. it will blind whatever is still alive (if it's not a champion or boss)
Gonna say rn this is a terrible perk for a Wave Frame, tanking the BR to 0 after the Blast Radius buffs to Wave Frame is actually throwing, also, I think its bugged, it should not be rolling with a perk like that.
I agree, tho the wave isn't that bad. Also the roll that you want if it's not bugged is very niche and probably good for GMS or a higher-end game content where you can't instantly kill something with a wayframe.
@@BoredThatsWhyare you doing the normal nightfall or harder difficulty. If you are doing normal it's going to be a while before you get one, the drop chance is low on that difficulty
There is a reason people use Forbearance with Chain Reaction and “Ambition Assassins.” Ambition Assassins is a meta perk. I have an undercurrent with voltshot and ambitious assassins which makes this GL a meta option.
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The reason why blinding nades are doing more on impact than spikes is more than likely due to how impact damage is calculated. The lower the blast radius stat, the higher the impact damage and vice versa. Since blinding nades drops blast radius to 0 it just happens to be more damage than the flat impact bonus provided by spikes. Also notice how with spikes the impact damage was about 13k but when you swapped to forbearance it was around 10k since it had nothing to drop blast radius or give impact damage, so it definitely seems like it is working.
Thank you for explaining that, my testing was just there in the moment and was going to properly do full review on this new gl later this week
So do they do well in PvP?
Ive been liking lightweight GLs for their ease of use and for how off meta they are.
I have blind & volt shot and it's really amazing for crowd control and add clear and an overload champion's nightmare
Really is, ggs on getting that roll!
How do you get it this guy didn’t say lol
@@Anthonyx23yes how do u get it
Didn’t realize it was updated I’ve been dismantling these lol
Yeah I was doing the same until I saw disorienting grenades pop up on it lol
Me too man shit!
Tbh, as somebody with over 3k kills on undercurrent (demo+voltshot), there's still no real reason to use it over a forbearance w/chain reaction.
If you don't have a forebearance w/that roll, then undercurrent is a great arc wave frame GL
Between the chain reaction nerfs on specials and voltshot being good for verbage+prismatic, forbearance kinda sucks now@@LittleCrowYT
@@LittleCrowYTyeah it’s a good new player weapon since it’s not tied to any dlc. I’m sure you can still get brave weapons from onslaught (not shiny) but that’s such a crap shoot without focusing
Damn I guess this is the way they get us to stop running GLS that can roll chain
Lol true, my friend asked me can the GL get chain and told them sadly I only rolls voltshot Xd
If this is intended I will delete all my blinding gl in energy slot and say goodbye to forbearance
Lmao please dont
Spike and Proxy nades being here confirms it to me that this is not intentional, as undercurrant ist not mean to hit anything directly like that and Proxy nades just doesn't make sense if you think about it. So this really doesn't seem like it was intended as it wasn't tuned to this scenario
fyi, blinding is different than 'disorienting'...blinding can apply to anything and can stun unstops, disorienting is ignored by bosses and champions...that's why they changed it from 'blinding grenades' to 'disorienting grenades'
The real question is what part of this gun can blind? The explosion? The wave? Voltshot, to whatever it chains?
You have to get one of these with volt shot, I NEED to know whether or not this works with it
If you run arc class and equip the one fragment, any arc special or heavy creates a blinding explosion. Vesper is a lot of fun right now too
Yeah I like running that on my warlock with forbearance. I Wana say Bungie is trying out new building crafting weapons. Kinda like what they did with prismatic
@@DruidT3ch I've been using a field prep voltshot undercurrent from when it first released and it's amazing now with that fragment
Tbh y’all better off getting empty vessel since it can roll auto holster and blind nade
Facts lol
is it the impact or the wave or both that trigger the blinding nades? That's what I wanted to know
The wave triggers the blind.
I.e. if the wave touches the target it will blind it, if it hasn't killed it
@@DruidT3chthe start of the wave and impact
yeah i got this already with voltshot and stats for all. really good
I play with blinding gl for a long time now and its not a dps weapon at all, it's only a cc weapon. I pair it with Wishender and its a powerful combo that will keep you alive and clean enemies fast.
Yeah I'm working on a more indepth video about and how it might be better for GM, endgame content, to solo content
@@DruidT3ch your teammates will love you with that perk in your loadout! :)
All it’s going to take is one arc seasonal mod or new prismatic fragment to make this thing pop off
Does the wave blind? I am also curious if proximity is viable since flying enemies are the bane of waveframes
I'm sad to say it won't hit them unless they are very low to the ground for the wave to hit them or Bungie gives us a wave frame with chain
Ignition code?
was this fixed ? this is nuts, sad i didnt notice at the time
@@gigel743 yeah it was fixed
How can a waveframe have spiked 😮
the blinding is on all the wave or just when the grenad touch the ground ?
From what I've messed with, the blinding is in the wave
I am curious how proximity works more than anything. Hopefully bungie leaves this and leans into it. A blinding wave frame is a cool idea I think.
bungie addressed this - enjoy your implosion & high velocity rounds 🙂
@@cps1974uk what's funny is this video is 3 weeks old lmao. How is this still in everyones feed XD
I rarely read patch notes and genuinely thought I was just going schizo 😭 I knew I had one but couldn't find it anywhere, crazy lmao
I did more than 20 now all difficulties and could not get a single one to drop
Rip
Works extremely inconsitently for me
From my further time playing with it, it really is. The wave does the blinding, but sense wave frames are good at add clear. it will blind whatever is still alive (if it's not a champion or boss)
@@DruidT3chIt blinds impact and the start of the wave
@@warlockholmes thank you for informing me
I can 100% bet they only added more mag options to make it even more annoying to get the god roll
Has this been fixed?
@@EinKnilch sadly yes
@@DruidT3ch man that sucks, thanks for the reply tho
I just got this tonight. i was shocked lol
Gl went from D last season to a strong A. Bliding nades, lead and volt? Hell yeah.
Can I still get it???
@@melloman999 sadly no, it was patched out and not intended apparently
Blinding bosses is nuts
Ty sir
You're welcome!
i just got a blinding nade, lead from gold and voltshot roll
Nice 👌
its likely a bug the perks pool not updated for this weapon
Actually it is I show it in the video, showing this season's version vs the older one the most people might have
yea true u are right
@@DruidT3ch it was bugged after all 😆
Wtf that’s awesome
doesn't that make the wave small as hell
The Wave isn't comically small lol
But yes it is at the default length of wave frames. Kinda like exotic waveframe from Risen
accidentally blew all my glimmers on a dead GL 😅😅
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Gonna say rn this is a terrible perk for a Wave Frame, tanking the BR to 0 after the Blast Radius buffs to Wave Frame is actually throwing, also, I think its bugged, it should not be rolling with a perk like that.
I agree, tho the wave isn't that bad. Also the roll that you want if it's not bugged is very niche and probably good for GMS or a higher-end game content where you can't instantly kill something with a wayframe.
Blast radius testing on wave frames post TFS has shown the difference is almost nothing.
@@chrisborges7344 0 blast radius vs some blast radius is going to be noticable.
How to get this?
It’s a vanguard weapon. Nightfalls.
@@etneitzel I tried the current nightfall about 10 times no drop
@@BoredThatsWhyare you doing the normal nightfall or harder difficulty.
If you are doing normal it's going to be a while before you get one, the drop chance is low on that difficulty
@@DruidT3ch ok I’ll try master thank
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this is probably bugged, wouldn't be surprised if this roll gets removed from the pool on reset
So far that I know it's been in game sense final shape drop but they might 🤷♂️
its bugged after all fixed today
Bug sad to because I had a video showing off the "god roll" too
no auto loading holster = dont care
Facts tho lol, I hope we get a autoloading wave frame with blinding
There is a reason people use Forbearance with Chain Reaction and “Ambition Assassins.” Ambition Assassins is a meta perk. I have an undercurrent with voltshot and ambitious assassins which makes this GL a meta option.
bruh LW GL's blind also blind major this ain't that special lol
Yeah I know lol, it was kinda on the fly recording and didn't sit down and think what I was saying