Of the dozens of videos I have watched trying to learn how to convert my propane fire pit to natural gas, this has got to be one of the most useful ones I’ve watched. Thank you so much for taking the time to produce this excellent video!!
We're happy you found out video Tommy! It was a fun one to make and we're thrilled to hear it was helpful for your project. Best of luck in converting your fire pit!
Thanks for the video. So many videos of people diy’ing their own fire cans but nobody explained why they used the parts that they did or any of this basic gas hardware knowledge
BEST VIDEO ON THIS TOPIC HANDS DOWN!!! Do you happen to have any “notes”/transcript on the key points you’ve discussed in this video? Just asking before I rewatch several times and write them all down.
Thank you Nwembly! We're glad you enjoyed the video! We have an article on our website that covers a lot of this information, here's the link for that: support.celestialfireglass.com/faqs/propane-air-mixers-everything-you-need-to-know-and-then-some/
Hi Andrew, Thank you for taking the time to comment on this video. You're correct, this video covers the principles of how propane air mixers work. Understanding how they work gives our viewers the ability to troubleshoot problems with their propane fire pits. We have many other practical videos, for example if you're planning to build a gas fire pit this video is helpful: support.celestialfireglass.com/how-to-guides/helpful-tips-for-planning-a-diy-propane-fire-pit-table/ The following video is instructional on how to install a propane burner pan for a gas fire pit: support.celestialfireglass.com/how-to-guides/how-to-install-a-propane-fire-pit-burner-pan/ We also have several sized air mixers available for purchase on our site at: www.celestialfireglass.com/fire-pit-fittings-and-parts/ If there's any projects we can help you with, be sure to reach out to us. We're happy to help. -Donnie
Thank you very much for the video and extensive information on LPG/NG, air mixers, safety and proper connections. I unfortunately picked up a 200$ LP fire pit that said the burner was SS, yet it rusted thru like paper in two seasons, even with proper use and storage. Now I'm having to install a new 12" single ring, but mine had the gas input on the out side of the ring itself, not from the center. That style ring seems to be non-existent. All I can find of the round burners are all center feed. So I need to do some MacGyver'ing. As much as I love the fire pit, I assume not spend the same amount as the total cost of the original purchase.
Typically the $200 range fire pits are built only to last a couple of seasons. You can look on Amazon for a vinyl cover which will cover the entire fire pit - this will greatly extend its life. Replacing the burner will take some "MacGyve'ing" like you said. I've seen some people make burners using regular threaded pipe, drilling holes in it for the gas to pass through. Don't worry about the shape you make it, the burner doesn't need to be round. The gas will be dispersed by the fire glass or lava rocks over it. Good luck with your project and let me know how it turns out. -Donnie
Great explanation. Just one minor comment. The T in NPT is Taper not Thread. This is an important difference between NPT and NPSM where The SM is Straight Mechanical which should not be used for sealing gas or fluid.
If the fire table controls are turned to off but the propane tank valve is still open will it push propane out of the air mixers holes? Should it be mandatory to also close the propane tank valve?
The fire table controls are between the propane tank and the air mixer. The air mixer is installed attached to the underside of the burner pan. When the control knob for the burner is turned off all gas going to the air mixer and burner pan is turned off. The only item which remains under pressure is regulator and hose from the propane tank to the fire pit control knob. It is not necessary to turn off the valve on the propane tank; however, it is good practice to turn that knob off if it's not going to be used for a while.
I bought a fire pit on Amazon. I’m getting black soot on my glass rocks. I think I have one of those air mixers on my burner, but I’m still getting soot. What can I do. My fire pit is a yaheetec fire pit. Thanks for any help
Hey mate, glad to find this video, I bought the air mixer 9000 btu for my old outdoor oven, still leaking a bit and the flame still red as I turned it up, really need your help as I found you the only one is helpful and there no one here in Australia could help me out with it, could you please let me know how can get in touch with you privately so i can send you a video and pictures and scratch your head please 😅😅, appreciate it your support and your help. Thank you
I do not know of anyone who manufactures a 15,000 BTU air mixer. The lowest BTU air mixer I know of is 40,000. HPC has one listed on Amazon at amzn.to/3bskxMs.
Yes, Outland should have the air mixer already included in their fire bowl. You'll usually see this as an opening in the sides of the gas pipe feeding into the bottom of the bowl. You should be able to see it (it may have a screen covering it, or simply be some openings on the sides of the gas feed line).
Of the dozens of videos I have watched trying to learn how to convert my propane fire pit to natural gas, this has got to be one of the most useful ones I’ve watched. Thank you so much for taking the time to produce this excellent video!!
We're happy you found out video Tommy! It was a fun one to make and we're thrilled to hear it was helpful for your project. Best of luck in converting your fire pit!
Thanks for the video. So many videos of people diy’ing their own fire cans but nobody explained why they used the parts that they did or any of this basic gas hardware knowledge
Good video with excellent narration. I was not aware of "air mixers" in LP systems, only carburetors. Thanks for the information.
Thank you Jim! We're glad to hear you enjoyed our video.
super video , thank you from across the pond.
Very informative video. I want to try making my own 1 piece air mixer out of an N2O capsule. Wish me luck, oh boy-yoy-yoy-yoy.
BEST VIDEO ON THIS TOPIC HANDS DOWN!!!
Do you happen to have any “notes”/transcript on the key points you’ve discussed in this video? Just asking before I rewatch several times and write them all down.
Thank you Nwembly! We're glad you enjoyed the video! We have an article on our website that covers a lot of this information, here's the link for that: support.celestialfireglass.com/faqs/propane-air-mixers-everything-you-need-to-know-and-then-some/
Information about principle, but not about implementing your own propane/air mixer in custom application. 3 stars, and thumbs up for the effort.
Hi Andrew,
Thank you for taking the time to comment on this video. You're correct, this video covers the principles of how propane air mixers work. Understanding how they work gives our viewers the ability to troubleshoot problems with their propane fire pits. We have many other practical videos, for example if you're planning to build a gas fire pit this video is helpful:
support.celestialfireglass.com/how-to-guides/helpful-tips-for-planning-a-diy-propane-fire-pit-table/
The following video is instructional on how to install a propane burner pan for a gas fire pit:
support.celestialfireglass.com/how-to-guides/how-to-install-a-propane-fire-pit-burner-pan/
We also have several sized air mixers available for purchase on our site at:
www.celestialfireglass.com/fire-pit-fittings-and-parts/
If there's any projects we can help you with, be sure to reach out to us. We're happy to help.
-Donnie
Excellent video! Many tips condensed into one video.
Thank you Sam! We love all things DIY and we try to provide as much help as possible with our videos. Happy DIY-ing!
Thank you very much for the video and extensive information on LPG/NG, air mixers, safety and proper connections. I unfortunately picked up a 200$ LP fire pit that said the burner was SS, yet it rusted thru like paper in two seasons, even with proper use and storage. Now I'm having to install a new 12" single ring, but mine had the gas input on the out side of the ring itself, not from the center. That style ring seems to be non-existent. All I can find of the round burners are all center feed. So I need to do some MacGyver'ing. As much as I love the fire pit, I assume not spend the same amount as the total cost of the original purchase.
Typically the $200 range fire pits are built only to last a couple of seasons. You can look on Amazon for a vinyl cover which will cover the entire fire pit - this will greatly extend its life. Replacing the burner will take some "MacGyve'ing" like you said. I've seen some people make burners using regular threaded pipe, drilling holes in it for the gas to pass through. Don't worry about the shape you make it, the burner doesn't need to be round. The gas will be dispersed by the fire glass or lava rocks over it. Good luck with your project and let me know how it turns out. -Donnie
Great explanation. Just one minor comment. The T in NPT is Taper not Thread. This is an important difference between NPT and NPSM where The SM is Straight Mechanical which should not be used for sealing gas or fluid.
Thank you Mark! We'll make sure any inserts and guides that come with our burners have NPT on them.
Great video. Thank you
If the fire table controls are turned to off but the propane tank valve is still open will it push propane out of the air mixers holes? Should it be mandatory to also close the propane tank valve?
The fire table controls are between the propane tank and the air mixer. The air mixer is installed attached to the underside of the burner pan. When the control knob for the burner is turned off all gas going to the air mixer and burner pan is turned off. The only item which remains under pressure is regulator and hose from the propane tank to the fire pit control knob. It is not necessary to turn off the valve on the propane tank; however, it is good practice to turn that knob off if it's not going to be used for a while.
I bought a fire pit on Amazon. I’m getting black soot on my glass rocks. I think I have one of those air mixers on my burner, but I’m still getting soot. What can I do. My fire pit is a yaheetec fire pit. Thanks for any help
Thank You Sir. Very Helpful 🎉
Hey mate, glad to find this video, I bought the air mixer 9000 btu for my old outdoor oven, still leaking a bit and the flame still red as I turned it up, really need your help as I found you the only one is helpful and there no one here in Australia could help me out with it, could you please let me know how can get in touch with you privately so i can send you a video and pictures and scratch your head please 😅😅, appreciate it your support and your help.
Thank you
Hello Hamza - you can contact us through our Contact Us page on our website. support.celestialfireglass.com/contact/
How many btus was the demo burner prop that was in the video?
That is a 24" x 8" burner pan which has an output of approximately 90k BTU.
Where can i get a smaller air mixer? Looking for 15,000 BTU max
I do not know of anyone who manufactures a 15,000 BTU air mixer. The lowest BTU air mixer I know of is 40,000. HPC has one listed on Amazon at amzn.to/3bskxMs.
Is it logical that my firepit (Outland Firebowl) has a built in air mixer?
ps...verty illuminating to learn that LP firepits have an air mixer between the control knob and the burner...
Yes, Outland should have the air mixer already included in their fire bowl. You'll usually see this as an opening in the sides of the gas pipe feeding into the bottom of the bowl. You should be able to see it (it may have a screen covering it, or simply be some openings on the sides of the gas feed line).
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