What Was Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s Reaction To The Daytona 500? | Dale Jr. Download
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- After an early wreck, the Daytona 500 was plagued with drivers riding around at half throttle trying to save fuel as a strategy play heading into the end of the first stage. The real talk of the night though came when William Byron and Alex Bowman were neck and neck coming to the line as a caution came out and the white flag flew.
Is there anything to fix about Monday's race? Dale Jr. gives his take on it and explains that the strategy and cautions are sometimes just the way things go down.
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Mind as well get rid of stage breaks as whole. Just keep giving the stage points but not throw that TV yellow. Not waste 6 laps under yellow to start the next stage.
There would still be a caution break from it unless they don't wreck. They are still gonna race like A-holes for points. Wouldn't change much.
@@shaynejenkins446 IMSA also award points when they reach a certain hour of the race. Guess what, they have no stage breaks
Stages are the dumbest idea. I don’t see other major racing series doing this insanity. NASCAR is just made for TV racing and that’s when they lost the majority of the fans.
I agree..it works great for the road courses, so why not just do it that way for all of the races
Anybody that remembers old Daytona 500's know it was always a gas mileage race.
Or no stage cautions. You know when there's a caution, you can calculate how much fuel you need to save to make it.
Stage racing and chase need to go. Id wager 90% of NASCAR fans hate them both
@@15615145616513 Stage racing is the reason why I quite watching, I was a fan from '79, when they started the chase and playoffs I hated it, but I kept watching and attended 5-6 races every year, when they started the stages that was it, haven't watched a race since.
@@15615145616513id wager you live in a bubble
Stage cautions also punish the best teams who earned their position
@@BwInNewJersey those teams, just like every other team on track, know when the stage ends. That is their choice to not flip the stage. Points, or win. Its called strategy. Points to carry you into the playoffs, or wins to solidify your contracts new and old. How do you wanna make it to the playoffs? Think you have a winner? Then pit early. If you want stage points cause you might not be a winning care, you have that chance. This has opened the door to having way more eligible drivers make it deep into the playoffs.
How to fix the "fuel milage racking?" Take out the mandatory cautions at the stage breaks, award the points if you want, but no caution. And or do away with the stage racing altogether, and go back to one of the "old" systems and award one point to each car that leads a lap, and 5 points to the leader of the most laps.
That will still cause unnecessary wrecks and be a caution anyways. It needs to be an attrition race again with less fuel and green flag pit stops. no stages and only cautions for incidents and wrecks.
@@shaynejenkins446how? They raced at the end of each stage and didn't wreck.
Fuel mileage has always been part of racing. Stage or no stage, it'll find a way to factor in somewhere, somehow.
yes, but it hasn't ever really been a factor in plate racing@@nomadman5288
Fuel mileage has always been a staple of Daytona. All the way back to the 70's.
I came up with the stage points several years ago when I was a member of the NASCAR Fan Counsil. Sent it to them, they started using it and I never got a thank you, good idea or nothing. Would of been nice to get some appreciation out of it. I will always miss 70s, 80s and 90s NASCAR. I never wanted to miss watching a race. Love all your videos Jr.! 😀
Hey Junior, I really miss the energy that the show had when it was you and Mike. The way the two of you occasionally sparred made it fun to watch.
Everybody hated Mike when he was there. The fans are never happy
Could we bring back points for leading a lap/leading most laps? Maybe too many available points, but there is an incentive to fight for the lead.
The only way to avoid the button is to go back to racing to the line like days of old
So racing back to the line to take the caution at the flagstand?
@@michaelwynn9471 ya, well that's how nascar always was up till the 90's I'm not saying it's the right answer I'm just saying it's the only thing other then relying on the flag man to throw the cautions at the right time and reviewing footage of who's were
Decided that was too dangerous long ago, car sitting in middle of track and cars coming at it 180mph
@@tylerwahlstrom3323 Technically 2003, so 2000's.. There were talks about eliminating racing back in the 90's but a Dale Jarrett crash at New Hampshire in the fall 2003 race led to the change. That was when Jarrett's car was completely sideways stalled out just before the finish line. His driver's side was facing the field while the leaders raced back. Don't remember if anyone crashed into him though. Think Jarrett was animated about it in the post crash interview. Freezing the field at the moment of yellow started the following week at Dover. Think that's when the "lucky dog" was started. Jimmy Spencer was the first free pass recipient and seeing he had a dog on the hood, Benny Parsons in the booth coined the term "lucky Dog".
@@rattmausch Then Aaron's ran a whole decade(?) long promotional/sponsorship campaign based on the fall out of that specific driver being in that specific circumstance two weeks in a row.
500 miles at 190ish to come down to a button push from someone high above the stands.
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ball or Football doesn't come to subjective calls. Lmfao. People complain about everything.
Bowman and Byron wrecked everyone and finished 1-2. Let’s call it like it happened.
Tell me you don’t know how bump drafting works without telling me
@@TheShufflinJesusdead meme
@@Copperhead-sz1rrABSOLUTELY, LIKE ME WE SHOULD BE DRIVERS OR SPOTTERS, JUST CANT BELIEVE THE COMMENTS ABOUT WHOS FAULT EVERYTHING IS … !
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@@TheShufflinJesus obviously you don’t! Bowman was not squared up and got Byron loose. Tell me you pretend to watch NASCAR WITHOUT TELLING ME🥴🥴🥴🥴That or you’re borderline re-nar-ted.
@@Copperhead-sz1rr sound’s like you’re hormonal 😂
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WTF, Bowman? He wrecked the whole field, bumping off center into the corner. The ending was a joke. The caution should have come before the final lap. The coverage was on the car spinning at the time they determined it was over. The commentators didn't even explain why it was over, with a lap not accounted for.
Your such a tool. Go watch F1. That your speed
@@Copperhead-sz1rr You don't understand that Bowman shouldn't bump someone off-center and heading into the corner? That is shitty race craft. What sport are you watching where that is acceptable and rewarded with a second place finish?
true but byron can’t hold a car under him to save his life…
He almost won and got second. He did what any of them would do.@@Hatredy11
@@kiingdylan1054 Who won again?
Race back to the start , finish line like the good ol days.......
The video proof that Byron won is that he crossed the start finish under the white flag and the next flag ends the race, the next flag was immediately yellow and they hadn't Crossed a new scoring loop.
They did explain that during the broadcast
Byron won, no question about it.
It's not the scoring loop anyways. It's where they are at the moment of caution. It's been that way for a few years now, so I don't get how people aren't understanding this.
Part of what I used to love about Nascar is that the team that makes the least mistakes reaps the reward at the end of the day. Stage cautions kill that.
Yep no stage cautions
Insanely great upgrade having Miss Amy there! 🙌🏼👑
You misspelled gold digger.
@@chuckfinley4757 That's pretty harsh. Why do you think that?
@kennethking3520 Well considering she dumped her husband for Jr.
@@chuckfinley4757 Really? Was not aware that Jr. is her 2nd husband.
@@kennethking3520 It is well-known.
Great seeing Brad run up front again.
He was upfront at every speedway race in 23
@@eduardclark yup and it was good seeing him run upfront.
we need no more stages period
I agree. Let the Daytona 500 be Daytona 500. Not Daytona 65-65-70
They should implement an alternate finish line on the back stretch so if they wreck coming to line they can race half a lap to the alternate finish on the backstretch and get slowed down before coming back to save d wreck
Exactly the same concept I've thought of..
12:25, the rules are the rules. All we can ask for is a reasonable application of the rules that is substantially the same for all drivers and all teams. Was it reasonable, on the second to last lap, to potentially allow two wrecked cars to sit in the grass as the rest of the field took the checkered flag? Yes. Did they throw the caution as soon as those two cars came back onto the track? Yes, they did. This was a throwback to when races more regularly finished under caution and that is a part of racing.
Bring back racing to the line......PERIOD!!!
Every sport has quirks in the rules that can't necessarily be "fixed". Officials, refs, umps sometimes have to make judgment calls and it is what it is. I was bummed the whole final crash even happened. The battle to the finish between Chastain and everyone else was going to be epic. Instead it was the worst case of racing blue balls. Oh well. *shrug*.
Let em race back to the line on yellows again!!! These cars are more safe than ever especially more than back in the day, it's the last lap of the race and Daytona let em race back to the line. If it's a mid race yellow don't have too but last lap of a race let em race back to the line, especially when it's not a bad wreck like that was. Damnd if they do damnd if they don't, last year's multiple restarts sucked and this year's yellow was anticlimactic, damnd if ya do damnd if ya don't. But I think they should let em race back to the line.
How about the old school,no stages,use what ever strategy!!
or how about no stage cautions, ever.
I don't see a problem with the fuel mileage stuff because the only reason they went two-by-two was because nobody realized the gigabrain strat the leaders were on, which strikes me more as high comedy than a problem to be fixed. Fuel mileage races are some of NASCAR's most dramatic, exciting races to watch. I want MORE uncertainty and strategic variation, not less. Stage cautions need to go, but stage points are pretty cool in my book.
Finish was fine. Unfortunate, perhaps, but not exactly unjustified. The wreck was at the line, so they couldn't race back, and it's the last lap. NASCAR fans need to chill out. Sometimes races end anticlimactically.
That Talladega race is my biggest what if in Jr's career. Had he won he moves on to the round of 8. He then wins Martinsville while out of the Chase. Had a won Dega, the Martinsville race would have put him in the championship 4 😩
One thing I never understood is, if the wreck starts on the front stretch why not call the race somewhere down the back stretch? I mean safety vehicles can still get to the front stretch because when they come by again the pace will be under caution.
@@Copperhead-sz1rr I’m not saying race back to the flag in the front stretch is full of crashed cars but race to a line in the back stretch if it’s for the finish of the race don’t call it with a click of a button anywhere on the track
They have to throw a caution or guys would just not lift through the melee.
@@shaynejenkins446 lift or not they won’t be able to avoid it anyway, most of the pack passes a wrecked area within 2 to 3 seconds
@@Copperhead-sz1rr If you read my original statement I said if the wreck was in the front stretch they should race to the back stretch.
@@Copperhead-sz1rralso I rather have some line in the back stretch then someone pushing a button anywhere on the track and the race is called there.
There will always be something that determines the winner at the caution. Right now, this is the best way to determine positions. If they use the same process for every race, then it's fair to all. The person pushing the button is just doing their job and have no intentions to determine the race winner. They've done it the whole race.
The officials seriously need to get better at pushing the button, that race 100% should have gone into overtime
It's funny that Brad is always in the mix when there's a wreck let's call it what it is
It is the light, not the scoring loop.
And fuel mileage is part of racing. It was the timing of the caution that made it factor, which ended up not being one because they all pitted anyways.
Should be when they cross the Start/finish line period. The caution timing should only determine IF that lap counted. If lights came on after leader crossed the line its green checkered. If the leader had not crossed the line then that lap wouldnt be counted and would be a green white checkered after the track was cleared.
You come at NASCAR you're effin' with me 😂 great quote
Maybe more painted lines for determining who is a head of another in a segment on the track … like more finish lines for the ending of races? With time and scoring lines more visible…?
It would be a weird points system, bit if there were points for position on every lap, with huge bonus points for finishing position there would incentive to actually race for the whole race.
Crazy idea but please hear (read) me out : there would instead be 5 STAGES through every race, but there would be NO CAUTIONS in between. That way you would have points at every 20% segment of a race, you would have people fight more for the top 10 positions instead of holding back, and no cautions in between would force people to make strategy when to pit for fuel and when to stay out to get the points.
Stages are not cool, racing back to the checkered isn't safe for obvious reasons, but what about markers evenly placed around the track like the starting box...and race back to the first marker closest to the leaders instead of relying on the push of a button it leaves it to racing. I don't know something like that I think would be cool
We gotta make blippi stick 😂 im dead 💀
What about awarding points for every single lap under green to incentivize both green flags and every lap?
In general, not referring to Sunday's race. Why on earth can't they race back to the line on the final lap? I understand throwing the caution heading into turn 1 on the final lap, because the wreck happened at the start finish line BUT. With how big Daytona and Talladega are, why can't they race back when they get half way down the back stretch and a wreck happens? The next lap will be the cool down lap anyway. Perfect example, 2001 EA Sports 500. Big Wreck happens, Bobby Labonte flips over, and they raced back. Once Dale Jr crossed the start finish line the wreck was still quite a ways ahead of him on the cool down lap. His spotter even said to be very cautious about the wreck on the back stretch. There should be a line or an area on the back stretch that once it's crossed, they race back. Especially at the big tracks.
The only way to legislate the fuel saving strategy out of the current speedway product is to bolt on the softest set of rubber Goodyear can bring.
If they have to change tires every 30-40 laps, there is no advantage to saving fuel to create the shortest possible last pit stop.
That also should increase the grip and maneuverability to create some really daring moves to catch runs, block runs and shoot gaps.
I like this except tire options should be up to the team as to which one to run and when with no restrictions. That will break up the double file line racing.
@sevencorter I don't care for tire options in nascar. Maybe on road courses, but not on the ovals
No dang Stage racing and smaller fuel cells.....
What year was it? Either Daytona or Talladega you went from the back to the front 4 or 5 times in the race, that was exciting.
Everyone complains every year. I thought it was a great race, one of the best in a long time.
Does anyone have a picture of “The Button” ?? 🤔
Not ending under Green Flag Conditions no matter what made it pretty dull
@@Copperhead-sz1rr People wanting a 500 mile race to continue on forever is even more dull.
The timing of the caution just makes no sense. Either get the light on before they get to the line, if you're gonna throw it at all becuase there are cars spinning before they get to the line. Or, if you're gonna wait to throw it until after they get to the line, does it have to be 100 feet past the line? Could they not have make it most of the way back to the line? Can they not make it to the backstretch? Nobody was flying through the air or upside down so I really don't feel like it was a caution right now situation.
Your a car owner, how do you feel when the big one happens? A giant pile of money on track that they just set on fire. I liked the racing when 2 cars would get stuck together and run as long as possible till the second one needed some air, how well they made the swap was the deciding factor, lead changes all day long.
I don't understand why people are upset. That 500 was really good from start to finish. The fuel situation in stage 1 was incredibly interesting, a game of chess.
$7.7 billion later and NASCAR still can't figure out how to settle a winner? It's the caution light. No, it's the scoring loop. Actually, it's this super secret button that nobody actually knows about or sees. I don't believe for a second that NASCAR doesn't doctor the finishing orders.
The best rules package they ever had was the 2 races with the roof wicker and the spoiler wicker. Ken schrader even admitted that! Go back to that and you’ll have a great race. How many lead changes did they have at talladega in October 2000 and Daytona 2001? It’s a no brainer
When the caution comes out on the last lap behind the leader let them race til the hit the back stretch at any track 1 mile and a half or more.
So who gets to race to that line? Just the leaders? So if the second and third place cars wreck at the starting line, do we want the rest of the field going 190 mph around them trying to race to the back stretch? If that’s the case then why not just have them race all the way back and forget about safety? Seems like the way they did it for years was as good as any. If it’s a 500 mile race, whoever leads at 500 miles wins. If it’s under caution it’s still the rightful winner.
@mlwilliam213 I would say any car in front of the wreck races to the back stretch. If the 2rd and 3rd place cars crash the race is over.
@@normancoreyBuildingTrains There is nothing wrong with a race ending under caution. If it ends under caution blame the drivers for wrecking, not NASCAR.
@samharris3508 that's a really good point. I don't mind if a race ends under caution I just want it to be consistent.
@@normancoreyBuildingTrains this was consistent. The issue only arose when FOX didn't dive deeper into who actually won the race. It left a lot of people in doubt. The Ariel photo showed that Byron was ahead at the time the yellow light was on.
That Logano Talladega finish was total BS. Forget the call when caution was called, Harvick should have been black flagged, DQ'd and fined for his antics on those restarts. He knew his car was junk and kept it out to cause cautious to end the race
I'm just happy that a Chevy won
Just stop with the stages. It ruins the racing.
What if we just change the overtime rule to we keep doing it until the leader gets the checker?
No more tapered spacers, scheduled cautions, and points resets. That's really all it takes.
How come nobody is pointing out how crazy squirrelly these cars look in the draft?
Make them race to the next scoring loop line to end under this condition, or the end of the next turn into backstretch.
Probably majority of wrecks on the last lap do not need a caution before coming back to the checkered flag. That's what bothers me is how why can it not be we are going to let them race back to the checkered flag because after all it is the last lap. If the crash is bad enough then obviously throw the caution, I think if you add it up the last 20 years they throw the caution too much at the end of the day, how many times does somebody simply just spin out and they throw the caution
Considering we all know there's gonna be wrecks. Usually,more than usual at Daytona. Why even do stages on any superspeedways. Go back to letting the crew chiefs make the call . It's much more interesting and competitive. And it's a simple fix. No brainer. 🤷
I think they should restart a race ending on a caution for one more green flag lap at least once before making a call on who wins.
I think depending on the severity of the wreck and some other factors, we should just race back to the line or don't count caution laps, but then you have a 5 hour race, lol
Or, how about this? Accepting the fact that there is nothing wrong with finishing a race under caution.
If you look at the aerial photo from the stands and pause it when the yellow light comes on by the wall where bowman is he has a car lead. That photo Nascar come out with is not even a good angle to tell who’s in the lead and doesn’t show if that is a light or not for all anyone knows that’s a trash can. The lights on top of the flag stand wasn’t even yellow in that picture. Go watch Bowman’s in car camera and you can definitely tell has already passed Byron when the yellow light appears. Also on the last lap the freeze the field when the yellow comes out not the last scoring loop.
Dale, do that again.
OK I'm a bit confused... Who is "Blimpy" is that Cindric or Ross? Cuz I think Pit Bull already gave Ross his nick name. Ross "Off The Chain" Chastain!
I see your point on the "person hitting the button" for the caution lights. If they are a Bowman fan they can wait a few more seconds and give him the win. If they were a Byron fan they can hit that button just a bit early. (not to say I think thats what happened) but how would you remedy that?
Junior they gave Gordon the win at Talladega with about the same excuse.
Exactly just like they stole the win from him in 2015 in the fall
Lets make it fun. 3 stages, one stage break. Flip a coin to decide which one it is DURING the race.
“Second place is just the first loser.” Dale Earnhardt Sr.
There was an opportunity in this segment to mention this infamous quote.
That line existed in sports for decades before Dale Sr was even born.
Plate racing produces the wrecks that get the younger crowd to look up from their cell phones.
Same reason for stages and tournament racing. Gimmicks that keep moving NASCAR closer to WWE.
Idk. the fuel strategy made it interesting for the stage end.
Why not award points based on average running position instead of using stage breaks? Promotes being up front throughout the race (instead of just the last 5-10 laps of a stage) and gets rid of the fuel mileage games due to stage cautions. Average running position is easy to compute with electronic scoring and should be pretty easy for fans to understand.
Seemed to have worked for everyone until idiot Brian France took over
Dirty Mo was that you driving that beat up orange monte carlo at the pig farm big ten race or was it Kelly. I saw all three of you there that night.
I was there working on a latemodel.
I remember NASCAR having a line on the backstretch for a finish back in the day. This would have been a prime way to finish this race. They wreck at the start/finish line with the white flag out. The line on the backstretch is out of danger. First to that line would be the winner.
So what happens if the field is rather strung out and 2nd place crashes in front of the field? You would still have the rest of the field racing back to an arbitrary line at full speed. Seems incredibly reckless and dangerous if you ask me.
That was never a thing ever.
We can't bring back racing back to the finish line, but could we set predetermined spots on the track they race to depending on which part of the track the wreck happens on? So if it happens at the start finish line, they race to the halfway point on the back stretch?
The problem with that is, if there is a wreck at the front of the field, and the field is rather spread out. You will still have guys racing full speed into a crash that's happened in front of them.
@@samharris3508 that’s a really fair point. We’d end up with more Larson and Preece style wrecks doing that.
We all knew the yellow was going to come out so it was a race to the starting line.
Or get rid of the stage cautions and lower the drag
Heres an idea: put in the rulebook that the leader when the light comes on is the winner. Get rid of this "NASCAR discretion".
You realize that a button is also used to turn that light on... think about it
some people don't get it.@@tylerwhite4743
its always Brad he always ends up taking people out at Daytona and Dega him and Ricky Spinhouse
No, I've been thinking about this a long time, 12 gallon cells with 800 HP
This also would get the crews more involved again, and it won't be about who makes pit stop mistakes but more about who makes the least and who can race back after falling behind, brings the driving talent out
And the smaller cell would bring back the two tire strategy in order to have the quickest green flag stop
Last time they tried running unrestricted, top speed was like 230 mph.
@@chromediesel444 ya I remember that but they were over 900HP and didn't have the aero and safety features they have now, also if I had my way, downforce would be reduced and the car body's would have to be exact to spec replicas of the real street car, allowing slipping and sliding so you won't need all the HP all the time, gotta be a smart driver on the throttle bring talent back to the top
Wich would also keep the speeds realistic
24!
who was behind the 24?
Superspeed way racing itself is nonsense jr until the last lap. Fuel strategy made this a great race
Dale Earnhardt had to race back to the finish line in 1998!! The line is the only loop that should be scored. The rules need to go back to 1990… pit whenever you want. Ever! No speed limit on pit road. (If you hit someone you’re out of the sport period! Like Yosemite Sam Rudd should’ve been) and race back to the caution. No restrictor plates. Nerves should be the reason drivers lift
11:45 at least he had to beat someone to said yellow and white flag. It’s a point but it’s different imo
The broadcasting agreements that mandate commercials is the problem. It’s a money grab that ruins the product
I think every race needs to finish under green no matter how long it takes. There shouldn't be white flag then the next flag ends the race. Checkered flag waves or no flag.
The guy in front of the black laptop sounds exactly like tony Stewart am I the only one that hears it?
Regardless of who or when the button was pushed. In a case like this, a winner is determined by who is in front when the yellow light comes on. That is what the drivers react to. Not the fn button!! Bowman won the race in my opinion.
I don’t think that they should have the same reward for the car eligible for a lap on caution should be awarded on stage yellows.
GET RID OF STAGES duh
Idk why its NOT a on track marker. They need to explain that
Who's the guy standing in the back ,get the guy a chair 😂
I'll tell you how to fix plate races if you want complete race competition. Stop stages and give points out by the AVERAGE position that you held for the entire race. With today's computerized scoring it's not hard to calculate. Still give 5 extra points for the winner and 3 for most laps led. If you ride around in the rear but charge to the front late you will get backmarker points because that is where you were for the most part. If you run top ten all day but blow a motor or wreck with two laps to go you still get good points and aren't penalized because you finished in the rear or got a DNF. It also doesn't overly reward fuel mileage finishes or penalize people who ran up front all day but ran out of fuel with 1 to go. Sure, there are possibilities for ties and what not but it will keep everyone up on the wheel the entire time. The drawback is of course that they probably will wreck the entire field by lap 20 but it saves watching a parade and then getting the wreck after 3 hours anyway. It gives everyone a chance to go do their yardwork...
I hate this version of "racing". Nothing about this is appealing to me. This is the only coverage of Daytona ive watched. Didn't watch the race. Dont watch highlights. Im just waiting for a change. Hate it.
No more stages and no more GWCs
Unless it will be of conflict to the wreck, let them race to the finish line. It used to be when the leader crossed the line that's when the caution would come out or the end of the race if a accident happened.
Whomever crosses the line first on the one to go should be the winner take out the freeze the field scoring loops lights all that
Pass interference, holding in football are frequently judgment calls! They have a huge impact on the game!