3:00 For those that don't play a lot of War Thunder: That shot should 100% pass through the T-34's armour. That is what we call getting screwed by "volumetric" armour/shells. It's incredibly frustrating whenever it happens.
OMG YES. I LOVED your series doing this on WOTB and the fact that it's on war thunder is even better. The realism of war thunder makes it so much better for these kind of scenarios
I think it's great to have these battles because of how varied the strength is with vehicles. Usually it's only a 1.0 tier difference. It's really dynamic when you have a mix of powerful tanks being paired with less assuming tanks. I would like to see a mix of 7v7 with TDs, light, med, and heavy with somewhat history related team compositions.
@@johndelapena3484 yeah for real like no real army would be balanced against another so think wt should definitely look into historical matchmaking or as historical as they could make it
To be fair by the time Tiger II entered service T/34/85 was already in frontlines.Though it would be fun facing 76mm T-34s in your Tiger I and truly feel the indestructible tank that history channels make it to be.
Fun fact: in war thunder, the Tiger II has a very particular weakspot that can be used even by the BT-5. Right below the ammo stowage on the turret ring in the back, there is a 30mm thick plate that has no angle
The T-34 with the 76mm cannon was still more common than the T-34-85 even by the end of the war. It was only post-war that the T-34-85 became the most produced variant.
@@ZETH_27 That's completely incorrect. More 76mm T-34s were made, but by the end of the war a large chunk of them had been lost. The T-34-85 was the standard.
@@russman3787 The T-34-85 started being prduced in early 1944. It was mixed with the T-34s still armed with the 76mm gun (although many were later Model.1943 variants with the larger hexagonal - still 2 man - turret). If you could provide me a source that states that the T-34-85 outproduced the T-34 variants with 76mm guns before the end of the war, that would be fantastic.
Hey Muffin! Really cool video! I saw you made a whole bunch of episodes of your own tank RUclips series in WoTB, do you think you could continue that into war thunder?
Seeing him play with the tiger makes me cry. Mainly because Ive played tiger 2 for a year now (I dont have enough to buy all of the vehicles for tier 6)
Hey! I was thinking: why don't you do a similar video, but on Enlisted? The penetration simulator is the same, additionally, you can put actual people as crew members, that way, you can also simulate the efficiency of the tanks in a better manner.
idea : do post war heavies vs post heavies example is-4 & is-3 and t-10 vs T32 , amx-50 , tortoise & conquer . I think it would be entertaining to see some of the most well armored and armed tank of the post war era to fight one another :).
@@averagesnailgodpraiser3840 the is4 has some decent armour, bit lacking in pen compared to other nations at that br. The t10 tho, I've found it to be mostly useless. The gun is great, but the armour doesn't matter. Atgms and apfsds will make you regret life choices.
and t-34's armor would fall off, you wouldn't be able to hit anything beyond 600 m, and would have longer reload time and worse gun handling due to bad crew ergonomics
@@edwardkenway148 also you won't be able to move faster than 20 km/h due to terrible transmission (that would alsk break down daily), you'd have spontaneous chance of a shell exploding in the barrel, crew vision range would be limited to 40% and all that fun stuff
Man I need to be in one of ur vids! You gotta do the Maus vs USA this time! Or Britain, I'd love to play the Maus and show my top tier superheavy skillz.
And T-34 had absurd ammounts of transmission breakdowns, armor spalling, got stuck in the mud (yes it did), shells had a tendency to explode in the barrel if you didn't let it cool down after shots, which limited rate of fire terribly, top speed was physically impossible to achieve because of god awful transmission
Do you have any videos or can you do some with like a modern jet vs WW2 ones or something like that? I think it would be cool. Like guns only though or something.
@@aleasharhodes7152 that was the intention of the kv2. But in operation Barbarossa, the soviets used anything and everything to try to stop the Germans. Including kv2s
Lol did you say Stalingard? Like Stalin Guard? I swear I heard you say that. Yes you did xD that's hilarious, but we all make mistakes. I just have always found that type of mispronunciation to be hilarious.
Why would you charge in when it is 1v3 or 1v5? Is it to even the playing field? Could easily have found an ambush position far away, or just kept reversing to keep your distance.
You can really see the ridiculous level of Russian bias in this match-up. Russian tanks just seem to survive what should be disabling or killing shots a little too often for it to be a coincidence. Somehow, they just seem to skate by taking hits that nothing else could. It's literally hardwired into the game. Something tells me nothing has changed at all since a few years ago when some folks data mined the game and found all manner of fuckery going on in the Russian tech tree, such as buffed penetration modifiers, buffed fragmentation and explosive mass on shells, and anti-spalling modifiers on the armor. The volumetric system seems tailor made to favor Russians. The Russian tech tree has never before been as dominant as it has been this past year. Right now it's just sickening.
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3:00 For those that don't play a lot of War Thunder: That shot should 100% pass through the T-34's armour. That is what we call getting screwed by "volumetric" armour/shells. It's incredibly frustrating whenever it happens.
getting gaijined
Russian bias
@@laurentiuchiru5668 meh
@@laurentiuchiru5668 100% this crap happens like 1/10 times against American, German or French tanks but happen 1/3 times for Russian tanks.
I ain’t played any war thunder but I played lot of World of Tanks Blitz. I know it’s not the same but that’s what I call rng
ah, yes, the battle of stalingard
Wasn't King Tiger developed in 1944?
More like Kursk/ Berlin.
@@stormkiller198 Berlin. Tiger 2 wasn't around during kursk
@@TigerTonk-HCorrect, the battle of Kursk was in July of 1943 and the Tiger II started production in January of 1944.
@@quindeb8831yh but u can play mbts in ww2 maps so dont rely on warthunder for realistic maps in the right time period
OMG YES. I LOVED your series doing this on WOTB and the fact that it's on war thunder is even better. The realism of war thunder makes it so much better for these kind of scenarios
I think it's great to have these battles because of how varied the strength is with vehicles. Usually it's only a 1.0 tier difference. It's really dynamic when you have a mix of powerful tanks being paired with less assuming tanks. I would like to see a mix of 7v7 with TDs, light, med, and heavy with somewhat history related team compositions.
@@johndelapena3484 yeah for real like no real army would be balanced against another so think wt should definitely look into historical matchmaking or as historical as they could make it
POV: When gaijin granted their wish of german mains siggesting to put the Tiger II (H) at a "Historically Accurate" BR range
To be fair by the time Tiger II entered service T/34/85 was already in frontlines.Though it would be fun facing 76mm T-34s in your Tiger I and truly feel the indestructible tank that history channels make it to be.
Man, that second game hurt when the hunter became the hunted.
I was so sure I was gonna getcha
just a correction: the name of the second map would be “Stalingrad”, not “Stalingard”
Edit: y'all are welcome and thanks for the likes.
its itching the back of my brain
in the name of every person who was having a tantrum over this, thank you.
Stalin is glad
@@mochaeunice2202 oooh yeah he is.... Stalin winked on them and they shall live for one more day
Thank you it physicly hurted me
Fun fact: in war thunder, the Tiger II has a very particular weakspot that can be used even by the BT-5. Right below the ammo stowage on the turret ring in the back, there is a 30mm thick plate that has no angle
Fun fact you can't do it in real life😬
@@morrisonparker3229 Fun fact, there are no operating king tigers in use by any military in real life today, what is your point
@@angelic_disappointment7889 Fun fact that's why you literally can't do it in real life😆 and even it still exist.
@@angelic_disappointment7889 nah he right tho
@@morrisonparker3229 that why he says "in war thunder"
I was the BT, T-50, and ZIS as I am a German main. It was fun though messing around with yall!
Thanks for joining!
I was the T-34 that killed muffin in the second one, then potato gun su-100y (and tigor 2 twice)
1:00 It was incredibly rare for a BT to see action past late 42, and the chances of seeing, let alone engaging a tiger 2 was basically 0
With the Tiger II Sla.16 it's actually got some pretty respectable mobility for a heavy
The Tiger II SLA.16 has a different engine so that explains why it has better mobility than the Tiger II with the Maybach engine.
to be honest if given bigger map (without morbilion bushes) tiger really can take out shit load of t34
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"In this round, we are on a new map, Stalingard!"
I’ve watched hours of videos and tNice tutorials one is the first that explains it in a way a complete beginner could understand! Great video
Wouldn't the T-34-85 vs KT be more historically accurate?
The T-34 with the 76mm cannon was still more common than the T-34-85 even by the end of the war. It was only post-war that the T-34-85 became the most produced variant.
Either-or would be fine. Probably having the majority be 76mm ones with only a few 85mm ones would probably be accurate.
@@ZETH_27 if the Tiger 2 has no more shells, he can just outspeed the t34 XD
@@ZETH_27 That's completely incorrect. More 76mm T-34s were made, but by the end of the war a large chunk of them had been lost. The T-34-85 was the standard.
@@russman3787 The T-34-85 started being prduced in early 1944. It was mixed with the T-34s still armed with the 76mm gun (although many were later Model.1943 variants with the larger hexagonal - still 2 man - turret).
If you could provide me a source that states that the T-34-85 outproduced the T-34 variants with 76mm guns before the end of the war, that would be fantastic.
you should put tiger1 vs t34-1942
the T-3485 is what tiger2s face
You should have used t34-85s against the tiger II
Hey Muffin! Really cool video! I saw you made a whole bunch of episodes of your own tank RUclips series in WoTB, do you think you could continue that into war thunder?
It’s something I’m planning on eventually:)
@@ThunderWithMuffin yay i have been enjoying watching it i hope you can make it.
these challenges are pretty kool and I think theyll defiently help grow your channel if ya do more!
Agreed! I've went from never hearing of this channel to binge-watching these challenges.
Seeing him play with the tiger makes me cry. Mainly because Ive played tiger 2 for a year now (I dont have enough to buy all of the vehicles for tier 6)
Hearing you pronounce Stalingrad killed me 😂😂 lol love the content keep it coming
18:37 ah yes, the famous "no armor is best armor"!
This video is so criminally underrated! Only 20k views? Makes me fear he’ll stop making this excellent series
You should do these in simulation mode it would be so realistic
Yeah I want to do that in some of my historical recreation vids
Rare footage of a tiger II last stand
"trying to help his comrades who are on discord right now,"
Hey! I was thinking: why don't you do a similar video, but on Enlisted? The penetration simulator is the same, additionally, you can put actual people as crew members, that way, you can also simulate the efficiency of the tanks in a better manner.
Less tanks
This is one of the best so far!
Bro said stalingaurd lol
You should get a team of players so that they actually know how to flank, maybe just some random guys.
3:03 Russian bias haha😅
idea : do post war heavies vs post heavies example is-4 & is-3 and t-10 vs T32 , amx-50 , tortoise & conquer . I think it would be entertaining to see some of the most well armored and armed tank of the post war era to fight one another :).
For some reason, the AMX 50 Super bias is the only one classified as a heavy
@@conscientiam_sui7385 i did not know that
Is-4 and t-10 are both too good in game
@@averagesnailgodpraiser3840 the is4 has some decent armour, bit lacking in pen compared to other nations at that br. The t10 tho, I've found it to be mostly useless. The gun is great, but the armour doesn't matter. Atgms and apfsds will make you regret life choices.
Call of Duty World at War also had a King Tiger in Stalingrad 1942. While the King Tiger suposedly came out in Summer 1944.
3:15 "They can RUSH IN to take me out." Get....Rush In.........Nice
If war thunder was realistic, king tigers would get stuck, break down, and you wouldn’t want to pay for how much gas they guzzle.
Lol oh my the gas💰
and t-34's armor would fall off, you wouldn't be able to hit anything beyond 600 m, and would have longer reload time and worse gun handling due to bad crew ergonomics
@@edwardkenway148 also you won't be able to move faster than 20 km/h due to terrible transmission (that would alsk break down daily), you'd have spontaneous chance of a shell exploding in the barrel, crew vision range would be limited to 40% and all that fun stuff
WHEN THE KING TIGER GETS HUNGRY
Tiger vs 50 T 34
Realistically the tiger should have wiped the t34s pretty quick I mean it did have a standard 88mm edit I just realized it's not the T1
Though it doesn't matter Tiger I's 88 is more than enough to deal with T-34s armor at ranges.
Ah yes, stalingard
should compared 2 king tiger to 5 t 34.......
Man I need to be in one of ur vids! You gotta do the Maus vs USA this time! Or Britain, I'd love to play the Maus and show my top tier superheavy skillz.
You can pen the mantlet of the 42 T 34 with AA, that non pen from the Tiger 2 is the most bs thing ive ever seen
It's called volumetric shells
to make it more fair, i don't think you should be able to hear them talking on discord
Well you are missing a part that the tiger 2 had a lot of engine fails
And T-34 had absurd ammounts of transmission breakdowns, armor spalling, got stuck in the mud (yes it did), shells had a tendency to explode in the barrel if you didn't let it cool down after shots, which limited rate of fire terribly, top speed was physically impossible to achieve because of god awful transmission
@@Кирилл-д6е4р true
I have to tell you the truth bro you have skilllll isssssuuuuueeeee
What about 1 tiger E vs cromwells and 1 firefly?
Firefly can keep distance and go 5hrough tigers front
firefly vs tiger is basically equal match already.
@@YFDTHEGREAT1 not at distance tiger can kill it, roughly 3000m with a 53% chance on the 2nd shot
firefly could penetrate at 1800 yards even less when it was angled 30 degrees
Not yards meters sorry
Why did bro say stalingard
i think the tiger 1 would be a good one to watch too!
Honestly it wouldn't have mattered considering 76mm APHE can't pen Tiger I's front either but they have the APCR.
Historic accurate gameplay mode is needed
Im surprised I didn't see any IS 2s
can you do a WW2 heavies free for all? MAUS, T95, T28, TORTOISE, KV2(ZIS-6), E100, FERDINAND, ELEFANT, JAGDTIGER, IS3.. anything more I'm missing..
Do you have any videos or can you do some with like a modern jet vs WW2 ones or something like that? I think it would be cool. Like guns only though or something.
Next event we’ll be doing tomorrow is modern jet vs WW2 fighters
The arieal views make this so much better
Oo you should do Cromwell 1s Vs a panther!
Bro sounds like he’s the narrator to a cgi nature documentary
FINNALY!!! This gives me wotb muffin vibes...
I once read about an experimental Panther (D?) with a 129 mm gun have you tried it
If you wanted to simulate it properly you should have had it stopped in the middle of a road to simulate a broken drive train
no
Stalingard?
“As I know they can rush in” rush in= russian
how about make a video of 2 Kv1(l11) & 1 Kv2 versus a team of tier 1 panzers? Historical early ww2 .
This is not historical because the kv2 was for destroying fixed fortifications, not other tanks.
Yeah like Raseiniai
@@aleasharhodes7152 It is historical because the KV-2 was used to destroy anything and everything possible, including tanks.
@@aleasharhodes7152 that was the intention of the kv2. But in operation Barbarossa, the soviets used anything and everything to try to stop the Germans. Including kv2s
Where is the Discord link?
In the description of my vids
we all know why he didnt add a kv-2 into the battle, they fear our power
Why are you not using the penetration thing that makes the whole tank green and yellow?
stalinguard
stalingard 💀
Yeah I messed up
@@ThunderWithMuffin XD it happens to the best of us keep up the great content tho!
Lol did you say Stalingard? Like Stalin Guard? I swear I heard you say that. Yes you did xD that's hilarious, but we all make mistakes. I just have always found that type of mispronunciation to be hilarious.
Yeah I did and thanks for understanding lol
Bro really said Stalingard
If it was realistic, the t34s would have no communication.
Why would you charge in when it is 1v3 or 1v5? Is it to even the playing field? Could easily have found an ambush position far away, or just kept reversing to keep your distance.
Your commentary reminds me of PopularMMos
What’s that?
@@ThunderWithMuffin a really old Minecraft RUclipsr that slowly lost popularity. He’s really awesome you should check him out
@@anoddlyspecificnamepart2 oh interesting, why do you think he lost popularity?
@@ThunderWithMuffin his divorce with Jen and lack of content
@@anoddlyspecificnamepart2 Oh gotcha, is it the way I’m speaking or should I speak less?
7:20 that dude baffles me
Man,pls do challenge with t34-57,they are so OP they ricochet their way into my jagdtiger’s ammunition rack
they really aren't that op, they only have a good gun for their rp. the armor is trash.
Mobility when spaded is good
@@Fazorplays who need armor when u have speeeeed
@@NguyenLyubyuStrana there isn't much speed
@@Fazorplays wtf man what speed do u considered fast? 100KM/H? 74KM/H is damn fast bruh
Ну да выставлять 34 по одному просто гениально
pfffff koenig wasn´t around in 1942... Play your awesome game but don t say you re making a historical recreation. Know your war history my dude
Do a bunch of the smallest tanks vs the maus
I think phly did this already
I think this will be easy for T-34s sonce they can use their mobility as advantage and go into ambush points faster
2:47 ( Russian bias moment )
What’s the discord
discord.gg/vgVbajKAhW
Insert lazerpig video on the t34
was the IS-2 not allowed or why did noone choose to take one?
What a surprise, a historically very bad tank like the t34 somehow is really good
Т-34 один из самых лучших средних танков времён Великой отечественной войны.
LMAO "Stalingard"
Those who played as soviet's side, could have had much better coordination than what they did.
King tigers need to be at range and open ground like that but if I was there I would wait for the enemy come to me
Bro said Stalin guard
Kurt Knispels last stand
We're the t34 player playing warthunder for the first time?
Next time do it in SIM for much harder realistic aim ;)
I like how the tiger rushes, doesn't try to find a good sniping spot. At CQC, the tiger isn't that good at being surrounded by tanks.
Depends on the which tank it is,Tiger II H is still good at CQC too due to it's reverse speed.Though obviously it's better at far range.
It's a Little bit inrealystic shooting to the barrel
10:58
T-3 furs 😂
T-34's armor is pure BS,paper thin on paper yet always gets saved by Gaijin's broken modeling.
I NEED THAT TURRET FOR WOT MY TIGER 2 IS SOO U G L Y
btw my FAVE oh yea yea my fave is the TIGER 2 new turret
Bruh how can't you shoot even if your barrel was destroyed the only thing to happen is that u will lose a little range
should make it with T-34 85
Why did they use solid AP instead of APHE
couldn’t pen with aphe
5:06 and 8:58 I thing you meant Stalingrad, not Stalinguard
I would have done much more better in this challenge as a Heavy tank player.
You can really see the ridiculous level of Russian bias in this match-up. Russian tanks just seem to survive what should be disabling or killing shots a little too often for it to be a coincidence. Somehow, they just seem to skate by taking hits that nothing else could. It's literally hardwired into the game. Something tells me nothing has changed at all since a few years ago when some folks data mined the game and found all manner of fuckery going on in the Russian tech tree, such as buffed penetration modifiers, buffed fragmentation and explosive mass on shells, and anti-spalling modifiers on the armor. The volumetric system seems tailor made to favor Russians. The Russian tech tree has never before been as dominant as it has been this past year. Right now it's just sickening.
Please make a movie in war thunder, it would be so cool and i bet everybody would be happy...PLEASE...DO IT...JUST...DO...IT..
Something I am eventually wanting to do:)
Please muffin...i enjoyed so much the wot blitz movie...i want you to continue using your narrating skills...pleasr