Maxine Peake and Jeremy Corbyn discuss the future
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Jeremy visited Manchester to give a speech at the Peterloo rally which commemorates the Peterloo massacre. Afterwards he caught up with Maxine Peake which we recorded for the Peace and Justice Project.
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We lost an incredible opportunity, an artistic, spiritual and empathetic approach to government when the media hoodwinked so many people to vote for Johnson ahead of Corbyn. As a musician I mourn the loss of such a sensitive and gentle man as our prospective Prime Minister.
BUT. It's not what the proles like or want. They like a show man. The policies mean very little b/c in the main thy are not thinkers, they are reactionary. A bloc who always vote Labour, ditto Tories and 25 % who are swing voters and king makers. Then there's 20-25% like me who never vote as In a FPTP system ir's irrational or maybe they've realised whoever is in power nothing much changes.
I agree.
The tragedy is that in our dystopian Tory-infected country, these 2 intelligent passionate principled people are considered "loony lefties" or "the enemy"😢
Good to listen to two human beings having a chat.
Fantastic stuff. These people will not be silenced which is great.
I love your shirt Jeremy. You are an amazing man and maxine is a good/ talented actress and person. Both inspiring people who have always stuck to your roots and beliefs. Thank you 😊💓
Did you like it when he produced a 80 seat Tory majority
I love how Maxine declared herself straight away as someone from Salford and not Mancunian, it immediately reminded me of my partner (he sadly passed away during Christmas 2021 with heart failure) and he was a staunch 'Salfordite' that would immediately correct anyone that thought him Mancunian, he was Salford born and raised and loved that city like one would love the motherland. This has brought a smile because I can relate, no one would dare to label him from Manchester :) Were he watching this with me he would be laughing his ass off and saying "see! SEE!" God I miss him.
Sorry for your loss
I'll never forget #ItWasAScam ❤
Antisemite
@@andrewburridge5958
Yawn 🥱
Corbyn is the best PM the UK never had. One of the last good MPs. Sadly a dying breed.
We need Jeremy in number 10 now more then ever. Labour isn't Labour.
He should start a new party.
I absolutely agree except I think it’ll only work after the election
@@scottishbanjo possibly
Best Prime Minister the country ever had the opportunity to have. A true hero and role model for anyone who thinks politics can be a force for good and positive change in the world. I will never stop loving Jezza, and I adore Maxine as well (VERONICA).
Pro Russian communist and an anti semite! Kicked out of the Labour Party!
I think Liz Truss would have been the best PM ever, if given a chance. But people think I live in a fantasy world just like they think you do with Jeremy Corbyn. They can't all be wrong.
@@mustafamar1437 One can be wrong about one thing but not wrong about another. It's basic logic.
@@mustafamar1437 Truss had a chance and did massive damage that we will all be paying for for many years. She's a cretin that should never of been anywhere near power.
Corbyn would have been a failure as PM. He couldn't even unite the party on a Brexit policy that would keep the Labour base intact, how would he have united the party behind his agenda?
Two genuine, iconic people.
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Loved her in Shameless! She's done a lot of narration work too, and I simply love hearing her Manc accent.
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There is a wonderful young musician singer songwriter who tries to speak out for the working-class and the state of the NHS , particularly because of the absolute hell he has been through after suffering from undiagnosed Lyme disease. he has written some extremely powerful pieces one being called. Hi Ren, which is his name. It came out in December 2022 and just went crazy on RUclips gaining millions of views by the end of January. he isn't signed with any label and all his videos are produced on an absolute shoestring. Ren is such a wonderful caring person even with all that he has been through and still is to some degree. he certainly would be a great one to interview from a mental health perspective, the lack of research into autoimmune disease and also struggling young artists. Prior to his solo debut he was in a band called The Big Push who use to busk in Brighton where they all lived, all of them are super super talented.
Hi Ren has been nominated for some art award in France I believe.
Oh Jeremy Corbyn, Oh Jeremy Corbyn, Oh Jeremy Corbyn..
Old Jezz, such a lovely man.
Old Jezz, impossible to clean off velvet.
Selfless in the face of adversity ❤️
I would like to know about the cinderloo in Shropshire, after a quick Google I didn't find anything.
Great chat between two great people.
check this out: cinderloo.com/
@@Voices__Media thank you.
Two well balanced people speaking sense!
Great video thanks for all that you do;-) both amazing people
Thanks for watching!
Have you heard of Ada Summers? She was a 19th Century Mayor of Stalybridge? Stalybridge also had a Muslim Mayor in the 1800's (Robert Reschid Stanley).
Listening to Corbyn always makes me reflect on the last election. A friend put it best when he said, we dodged a bullet there, sadly to then step on a landmine.
It was you and your ilk that laid the landmine.
What does that say about your judgement? Perhaps you have some more "reflecting" to do🤔
@@babymonalisa perhaps it says in my judgement we desperately need some new ideas and perspectives rather than endlessly rehashing the same arguments from equally left and right wing proven failed political perspectives. Is it really beyond us to conceive new ideas or envisage a system that encourages individuals to reach thier own conclusions rather than simply signing up to this club or that.
@@paulevans3663 we haven’t had anyone with Corbyns ideas for 40 years and we won’t for 40 years again.
What an opportunity for change we missed.
@@paulevans3663 Go on then. Critique the policies of the 2017 manifesto. Then tell me what the Tories and Starmer have to offer. Oh, that's right, Starmer doesn't have any policies.
Such a chilled interview
The privileged and connected getting all the jobs, let alone all the best jobs. Elitism hand in hand with austerity. This has become so prevalent in today's society. Spot on about needed to reminded again and again about Establishment's and their sycophants', crimes.
Fantastic
Only found this Channel today, but if a 2019 Prime Ministerial candidate Needs to continue Prominently in Public Life; I know which One! Thanks! :)
We are beginning to wake up
The needless and unfounded hate in the comments by righties on a perfectly innocent video is like clockwork. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
PSA: In my suggestions at the side, a GQ interview with John Bercow by Alistair Campbell, "I do not believe Jeremy Corbyn is anti-Semitic."
When you compare the common sense, and progressive thinking from these guys and what we’ve got in government right now, it makes you weep. Watch oh Jeremy Corbyn. The lie, it’s got to be good they’ve banned it from Glastonbury and Tolpuddle!!! Barb
Good lass meets good lad.
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Two of my favouriet people but I cannot agree with optimism for the future. For young people to be given a chance to utilise that intelligence of which Maxine speaks, they need to have something to vote for and they haven't. Do they want Blue Tory or Red Tory? Is a complete waste of time.
Butll it be reported in t Manchester Guardian if not the Salford Gazette 😂
Tankie talk time
Long Bailey maybe many thing...a great MP she isn't
Bluerghhh no antisemitism thank you
She needs smaller spectacles, or a bigger head.
John's contribution to the world.
What's the point of Jeremy Corbyn? good question
Did you just ask a question then say it was a good question? Good question.
Wonder why they never discussed why Corbyn was so hated in the north ?
liar
Two people complaining about poverty whilst at the same time complainig when the poor areas start to get wealthier.
Being for the eradication of poverty is compatible with being against high levels of wealth inequality. You've totally bastardised what they have been talking about.
@AK you'll never eliminate poverty because people aren't a hive mind like Marx thinks, in fact it the major flaw in his idioligy.
People are individuals and flawed in many ways and that is a good indicator as to why there's poverty right now.
@@raymondswan97 What school of economics is that from, Professor? Cornflakes University?
@AK ah the old appeal to authority.what a moron.
You may want to look at sociology and psychology before you look at simple economics and you'll find the answers that seem to have been elusive to you thus far.
You'll never fully eliminate poverty in the same way as you'll never eliminate racism, because there's always a steady supply of morons that will carry it on. You're evidence of that.
@AK Flaws in Marx's Theories
Marx's theories, particularly his analysis of capitalism and his vision of communism, have been subject to various criticisms and identified flaws. Here are some of the main criticisms:
Human Nature: Critics argue that Marx's understanding of human nature is overly simplistic and flawed. His theory assumes that humans are primarily driven by economic motives and that they will naturally gravitate towards communal living. However, human behavior is complex and influenced by a wide range of factors, including cultural, psychological, and individual differences.
Economic Determinism: Marx's theory of historical materialism suggests that economic forces are the primary drivers of social change. Critics argue that reducing all social relations to economic relations oversimplifies the complexity of human societies. They contend that factors like culture, politics, and ideology also play significant roles in shaping historical events and societal structures.
Class Struggle: While Marx's emphasis on class struggle as a driving force of historical change is a key aspect of his theory, critics argue that it ignores other important sources of conflict and change, such as racial, gender, and religious tensions. They contend that Marx's exclusive focus on class struggle overlooks the complexities of social dynamics and the multiple dimensions of inequality.
Lack of Innovation and Incentives: Marx's vision of communism includes a society where private property is abolished and the means of production are collectively owned. Critics argue that this system lacks the incentives necessary for innovation and productivity. The absence of individual ownership and profit motive, according to this criticism, would dampen individuals' drive to work hard and generate economic progress.
Centralized Planning: Marx envisioned a centrally planned economy in which production decisions are made collectively. Critics argue that such a system is prone to inefficiency and lack of flexibility. The absence of market mechanisms, they contend, makes it challenging to allocate resources efficiently, respond to consumer demands, and adapt to changing circumstances.
Historical Predictions: Marx made several predictions about the inevitable collapse of capitalism and the subsequent rise of communism. Critics argue that history has not unfolded as Marx predicted, as capitalism has persisted and evolved in various ways. They contend that Marx's deterministic view of historical progress overlooks the complexities of social and economic development.
how can a man talk about working class people when he has never had a job himself
What is a MP then that is a Job
And you are silent on every other MP in the same situation.
The ultimate career politician
@James Cooke At least he takes the job seriously and has worked very hard to improve people's lives. A pity there aren't more ' career' politicians like him. He did have jobs before he was an mp.
Just like his hero Marx
This guy never amounted to anything in all his years in parliament. Was largely regarded as a joke to be ignored by previous labour leaders. He agrees with all strikers irrespective of their cause. Thank god the country had him weighed up by 2020. He can now concentrate on what he likes most and return to the picket lines.
Are you a boss? Or just someone who jumps without question whenever one tells you to?
I think you do raise some good points. Yes he's had a 40 year career. But a pig in a red ribbon would keep most London seats.
He was considered a joke for the vast majority of this time, and I strongly suspect he didn't enjoy his time as leader. It's a lot easier to complain from the sidelines. His current role of playing a persecuted christ like figure who is holier than thou is exactly where he wants to be
Speak for yourself
I think the people in Islington North disagree with you.
@@patcampton7163 I don't disagree on local issues as a constituent mp I am sure he is well suited, but leadership? Positions of high office.. He hasn't got it. Don't just take my word for it though. His own party voted no confidence in him.
Two people in an echo chamber having a nice conversation.
Labour Party mps and Labour voters can not stand him or what he believes. The members loved him but 90% of the population did not. Get out of your echo chamber.
What - you'd prefer even more bought shills slagging him off?
This is so true. It's a cult.
@@jamescooke6032 Better to be a cult than a criminal organisation like the Tories.
Jeremy is one of the most approachable politicians and much more in touch with ordinary working people than most Westminster so your echo chamber notion is daft. The Labour Party under Corbyn was much more of a broad church than the current one. The reason he was disliked had nothing to do with him being in an echo chamber, but because most people unfortunately have thier opinions spoon-fed to them by the echo chamber of Rupert Murdoch and his ilk. Maybe its you who needs to come out of your echo chamber. We will get the leaders we deserve. By the way, how did Boris work out for you?
@@jamescooke6032 "Cult"? Another victim of the right wing echo chamber, parroting thier talking points. If Jeremy comes across as a cult leader to you, you are ignorant about cults.
Another instance of Jeremy Corbyn's main fault: only talking to people who agree with him. His failure to argue in public the case for Remain was a major reason why we got Brexit.
Jeremy Corbyn gave a very cogent talk on the Pros and Cons of leaving the European Union a few weeks before the Vote. It was made for one of the major TV channels but, unfortunately, the channel chose not to broadcast this very thoughtful talk and only broadcast snippets. It was the best reasoning I heard during the debate leading up to Brexit. It was a pity that only people who looked on RUclips got to hear it.
This is such bullshit. He was one of the only people not just barking at the other side. Nuanced opinion. Information. Concerns. Things to consider. Details. YOUR problem is that his approach didn't confirm 100% to YOUR outlook. We got Brexit because the working class was abandoned by both main political parties for 40 years and no-one considered them worthy of being part of the political conversation. A conversation with room for a wide range of voices and perspectives.
@@andrewgrose2180 absolutely right