It's a nice parallel to the Litany of Fear that Jessica says earlier in the film. "...where the fear is gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
I love the fact that the baron flicks on his shield before leaning in close. As far as he is concerned, his enemy is utterly defeated and moments from death, but he still acts with caution.
For anyone who didn't read the book, a bit of context on Dr. Yueh, since he was one of the characters that got really shorted by the film. He wasn't a delusional fool desperate for his wife's return. He already knew that the Harkonens had killed her, he wanted to be sure. Everything he did, betraying the Atreides, was towards his true goal: killing the Baron. And he knew that the Baron would never put himself into a vulnerable position unless he believed he was utterly victorious.
I suppose I need to read it again. One of the VERY few complaints I have about this movie is that the audience isn't made aware how significant that diamond tattoo is. The Imperial Suk School training is known to be absolutely unbreakable. The audience misses out on two things because of this. #1 Having that diamond tattoo basically makes a person 100% above suspicion. #2 It shows just how cruel and manipulative the Baron is. The fact that he fk'd Dr. Yueh's mind up bad enough to make him a traitor would seem like he had done the impossible.
Let's just appreciate how fucking amazing an actor Oscar Isaacs is. Completely immobile, unable to really emote and he still sells the shit out of this.
@@c.glazercrush3994 This had nothing to do with the Emperor. This was icing on the cake for my Uncle. This is him gloating. In the novel he's much more smart in this scene. He has been scheming for decades to eliminate the Atreides. He isn't stupid enough to get his hands dirty. Can't let the Truthsayers know. This is Vendetta being finalized against that loathsome Duke and his witch whore, Jessica.
This is such an intense and tragic scene in the books. It narrates him remembering flying kites with Paul when he was a little boy on the hills of Calladen. He mentally says his finally goodbyes to his wife and son and family before finally building the resolve to break the poison filled false tooth, killing him instantly. I had to put the book down after that chapter. So intense and saddening.
It might be a reference to " The Death of Marat" a Painting by Jacques-Louis David. It depicts the murder of Jean-Paul Marat(stabbed to death in his bathtub). As soon as I saw this scene, I couldn't help but make the comparisons. So cool.
@@robbramos2047you’re wrong for thinking that. Only people who are stupid sees that motif and not real movie and literature experts. Stop reaching you pretentious douche bag
I don't know why, but my favourite sound effect in the entire movie is that weird popping sound the Baron's suspensor always makes when he turns it on to float somewhere. You'd think a mechanism like that would make a whirring or humming sound like an electrical device but the popping sound just makes their future tech seem far more alien to me and I love that.
2:30-I find that little detail-of Baron Harkonen turning on his shield before leaning down to hear what Leto was saying. “But why,” one might ask. “Why take such precaution when there’s no obvious threat, no reason to assume anything is amiss or out of his control?” I think I have an answer. Vladimir simply feared the Duke of Calidan that much. Even stripped naked of all weapons and defenses, with his legions shattered, his household lost, his family apparently dead, betrayed and condemned to death by the Emperor himself, Leto Atreides still made the Baron afraid of him. And, as it turned out, rightly so.
That part was a tad rushed. In the book, it was Piter who killed Yueh. After, Yueh tells him “You think I haven’t gained anything for wife?” Leto on the other hand began hallucinating and Piter was asked to see what Leto was saying. Leto’s hallucinations made him mistaken Piter for the Baron. So he actually sprayed Piter, not the Baron.
In the book the Baron survives an assassination attempt by Feyd whereby he puts a poison needle in the mole of a young man the Baron will molest. The Baron thought it cunning but it shows how careful he is in looking out for threats.
Wild detail: The Baron doesn't slit Yueh's throat, he beheads him. You can briefly see Yueh's head in the Baron's hand as he turns, and there are two thuds, one where Yueh's body hits the ground and one where his head hits the ground. For all his gluttony and sloth, the Baron himself is still physically powerful and monstrous.
I thought this was pretty obvious though. The gesture he made was that he held yueh head to ensure the head will be severed. He would have used one hand if he only intend to slit
@@themightiestpenin the wild sci fi world of dune where a 400 lb man can float through the air with ease and people see the future, this is where you draw the line? Weird
Kenneth McMillan's Baron was like the Joker, if he got fat. A Comic-book villain. Ian McNiece's Baron was just the right mixture of egomaniac and intelligence that he made the comicbook-esqe Baron believable. But Stellan Skarsgard's Baron isn't egomaniacal at all. He's cold and intelligent. He doesn't telegraph his presence like a raging bull (Glossu Rabban), so that you know he's coming long before he gets there. No, Skarsgard's Baron is like a force of nature -- a tornado you don't see coming until the funnel forms right over your head.
One thing I wish was added is the Baron's speech after killing the doctor, "I never trusts a traitor, even one made by my own hand." This greatly shows more of Vladimir cruel calculations of being precautious, knowing the horrors his faction inflicted on different worlds and those people wanting him dead.
I think Ian McNiece sold it well in the Sci-FI channel series. Being both egotistical and intelligent (a rare combination), he wants everybody to know how clever he is. But I don't think it would have worked for Stellan Skarsgard's version of the Baron. He's introspective, not egotistical. More like a brute force of nature; a tornado that you don't see coming until the funnel forms right on top of you.
I feel so fucking sorry for Leto. I mean yeah, he's immobile, stripped naked etc. But the most painful thing is he died thinking that he failed to protect his love and his only blood. His /only/ son. Oh wow the pain that must bring...
In the book, he actually knows jessica and paul are still alive because the baron asks him where they are hiding. It's what gives him strength in the final moment. he accepts it and dies by trying to kill the baron to save his love and son.
@@Catarssis347 I think you completely missed the point. Avenging loved ones like that is extremely hollow when compared to what op said. By far the most painful thing is someone dying thinking their loved ones are already dead.
Atreides soldiers: Fight to the death to defend their leader. Harkonnen soldiers (literally the minute the Baron's in danger): May the force be with you, cuz we sure ain't!
I love how the baron is loudly eating and still chewing as he executes someone. It not only showcases how gluttonous he is, but also how he views most matters as a distraction from his pleasures, and thus wipes them away with a nonchalant wave of the hand. The Baron is brilliant but lazy, and if he had his way, he’d have the entire universe serving him as he pigged out. Hell, that’s basically his grand plan, endless power and wealth for endless pleasure.
Well, not really. He has a disease that one of the bene geserit mothers inflicted on him to make him fat. He keeps his imagine of gluttony so no one finds out that he got infected by BG
OMG I just realized his back pops and cracks cuz its suddenly in zero g and the weight of his body is now off of it so it expands again, making that popping/cracking sound
the whole character / stellan is ASMR. be it the popping gentle noise of his suspensor device, be it his thick raspy voice, especially in the healing bath
I love the irony of the Baron's weight being so immense that he can barely move without a device to control gravity, as being the very thing that saved his life from the poison. It took so long to pass through his body that the Harkonnen doctors could find a way to keep the Baron alive before he succumbed.
2:44 I like this moment better in the movie than in the book. In the book, while Piter and several guards do fall dead, the Baron just leans back and goes “well, that could have been dangerous!” and leaves the room like nothing happened. It was a strike to the face for any reader who thought Leto would go out like a hero, for the person directly in front of him to not have suffered even the tiniest bit. This, and the fact that the Baron has to slowly recuperate from the poison throughout the movie, puts a little more power behind Leto and the Atreides name as a whole.
That's not how it happens in the book. The Baron is never close to Leto to be poisoned and still barely manages to escape the room through a side exit. It's Piter who leans over Leto and gets a face full of poison gas since Leto thinks it's actually the Baron. It's in the Baron's own thoughts that he eluded the Duke's revenge only through dumb luck and that he might as well have died in that room. It's one of the very few times we see the Baron actually shaken by an experience, only for that feeling to be compounded when the Sardaukar lieutenant appears out of nowhere to order him around and reprimands him for the Duke's treatment. I like the movie's version as well, since it's more cinematic this way.
@@BLooDCoMPleX You're right. The less than stellar but still enjoyable first attempt actually shows this scene more accurately. I like this interpretation better.
@@modemmack Mee too, this scene and the scene with lients/kynes death is just wayyyy better and gives the justified respect to both of those characters, not like in the movie
I liked the scene in the book. The baron is sent into a desperate rush to safety, and is shocked to be tricked when he was most sure of himself. He loses important assets to his plan (the mentat Piter) The baron absolutely does not just lean back and leave as if nothing happened. He is in complete shock.
In the book Yueh is killed by the Barron's Mentat assassin. As he dies he leaves the Barron with final words. The Barron becomes full of doubt and fear afterwards as the posion led to a mess for the Emperor's dogs to discover and relay the weakness to him
This scene really shows the difference between the two houses, the barons men on the outside quickly shut the doors to avoid beinf poisoned and killed themselves. While Letos men died fighting, while we wont know for sure, i believe that if Leto was in a room filling with poison gas, his solders would rush to extract him
Why are all Harkonnen men white? Holywood is again trying to sell us some subliminal message in a "subtle" way? Or is there some plausible reason that I overlooked?
I just noticed at 2:19 a tear falls from Leto's eye. This scene was both horrifying and heartbreaking. I can't wait until Part II when the baron meets the Atreides' gom jabbar.
At first I thought that the tear meant that Leto was like "NO! F*ck, I didn't get him!", but recently I had read a comment were someone said that the tear could be a little reference to the book, where Leto had a brief memory of his entire life and raising Paul on Caladan before he died.
I like the Baron, he's a total boss and Duke Leto to be brutally honest failed. He (Leto) knew he was walking into a trap, and even know he was surround by advisors, had the Lady Jessica as his main hump, and a mentat, he didn't ever clue into the fact that his Doctor was compromised.
@@Neville60001 In the 1984 version the tear in the Duke Leto's eye at the end freaks out that Baron, he didn't expect him to cry and doesn't like the new "element" in his plan. He demands to know why he is crying and hence the reason Piter has to lean in and deal with it. I really wish we'd get to see more of Piter, I know he dies and I know most of his machinations happened before all of this takes place but it would have been cool to see Piter in action! Piter figuring out the play, and Piter torturing the Doctors wife simply because I would have liked to have seen what they did to her, and I really want to see these pain amplification chambers. Supposedly Piter tortured her in one of these, as well has getting his rocks off with her.
Stellan absolutely owned the role. It's a shame they didn't do more with him, even though I understand the reasons for it. Gave off some serious Colonel Kurtz/Marlon Brando vibes.
good roles and actors dont need huge run time in a movie to steal the show like hannibal in silence of the lambs. i believe it was like 15 mins run time for him which even won him an oscar. his presence in this movie was almost at that level
@@MrVad3rhonestly there are actors and actresses in both films that seem to be at that level. I thought the Princess, Emperor, and Feyd-Rautha all stole the show in their own way. Also Duncan Idaho, the Baron, and Stiltgar in the first film.
I love how the soundtrack, at the moment Leto breathes his last, turns to fierce female vocals, almost as if the voice is crying out in mourning for Leto.
The camera shot framing is incredible in this scene: 1) at 1:10, the focus on Leto while the baron is moving in the distance, showing that the duke is completely defenseless and immobile (like everyone else in the room actually) 2) at 1:20, the subtle use of the dolly zoom (transtrav), as if the baron was the great white shark swooping down on his prey. 3) at 1:27, the slow appearance of the baron in the screen, invading Dr. Huey's personnal space. Holy hell, this is CINEMA.
I love the realism (subtle detail at 1:23) the Baron bumps his foot as if descending a bit too soon. Showing just a glimpse of his carelessness of himself. I’ve rewatched this clip like 5 times now…
Was that in the books...? Cuzz I'll be very honest with you - if it wasn't I would bet a lot more money that was just unintentional xD Basing that on the assumption that the effect was made via a harness of sorta lifting the actor up and slowly "gliding" him towards the camera - the eery effect of not seeing his face as he glides would also allow for an easy hiding of the harness and ropes :p And yes, I could ofc be wrong - and I do hope I don't come off as too much of a buzzkill xP I just enjoy seeing and trying to figure out how effects in movies are made - a lil "spot the vfx and practical effects" game if you will.
@nexusvoid367 they probably filmed that same scene 5-10 times (or more), so if it WAS intentional, they chose to keep and use that version where he hits his foot on the table. They probably filmed some where he doesnt hit the table, some where he moves faster, some where he moves slower... then they pick which shot fits the final edit of the movie.
@@ejdolo I do agree that they probably chose to keep it and didn't miss the fact it happened or smth xD I just really doubt they went for that specifically if you know what I mean? I'm not native English nor do I know a lot of the terminology, but basically I doubt the director gave instruction on wanting this in the shot xP But as you said, it's fairly likely this happenedand director could simply see it as fitting, likely in the exact way that the OG commenter said.
Film: He bumped his foot Commentors: This shows he is careless and arrogant and capable of making mistakes which could be foreshadowing that his downfall will be due to his own mistakes out of sheer hubris.
It's not so crazy when you're creating something you care about, and every little detail or moment is an opportunity to showcase things like characterization and visual scrutiny, especially if you're adapting a text already so rich with tiny details like Dune. I get it, a lot of people have beef with "over-analysis", probably because they remember having to analyze a book in school that felt like only your English teacher cared about it. But it's a real skill, not just for consumers, but for creators too. It is how good media is made.
In the book, although Leto dies, in his last breath he kills many Harkonnens including Pytr DeVries...the mentat...The loss of the Baron's invaluable mentat set the stage for his downfall...He made many miscalculations after this. Leto and Dr Yueh did get their revenge.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Thats not a mistake lol. He puts Raban in charge of Arrakis because everyone thinks Paul and Jessica are death and he wants to make the populace hate Raban so Feyd-Rautha can take over Arrakis and be hailed a savior, setting him up as his successor.
he wanted to have Piter killed in the book. He offered control of arrakis to him and would have him squeeze the people enough for them to hate him. After this scene though the control of arrakis was given to Rabban for the same reason. His only desire was to have Feyd-Rautha come in as a saviour and the result would have been the same either way
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Putting Raban in charge of Dune again is not a mistake. He's doing that because he wants Raban to terrorize the planet and then the Baron will put Feyd in charge and the people will welcome Feyd as a savior.
“There is a legend that the instant the Duke Leto Atreides died a meteor streaked across the skies above his ancestral palace on Caladan.” - From “Introduction to a Child’s History of Muad’Dib” By the Princess Irulan
This scene also marks the inevitable loss of the Harkonnens as the loss of Piter struck a terrible blow to their intelligence network. Having to rely on the services of Thufir was problematic since he would never act in the same capacity in addition to hating their guts.
If it's effective range was so far, then the poison tooth was wasted. Leto could have used it any time the Baron was in the room and before he was shielded. But maybe he didn't know that.
@@Soothsayer-rs5nb That is a factor. But he would not try killing the Baron without knowing what happened to his family first. The Harkonnens can be very sadistic, and the Duke knows what unspeakable horrors they are capable of, especially to his family if Leto tries anything to piss them off. Remember, there are still 2 Harkonnens left outside the room.
In the book he’s just coming back to consciousness and it takes him a few minutes to remember his last conversation with Yueh. Also the Baron had his shield activated the entire time. So in the book it’s more by habit than strategy why he lived.
This scene is amazing and also a departure from the books. The Doctor knew his wife was dead and thought he was killing the Duke, the Baron, and himself in this act to get close.
Fucking moron placed Arakis under Capitalist/Military Dictatorship only to get a chance of revenge against Baron. Asshole. I am glad Baron sliced his head off. Selfish bastard.
Leto sensed memories rolling in his mind--the old toothless mutterings of hags. The room, the table, the Baron, a pair of terrified eyes--blue within blue, the eyes--all compressed around him in ruined symmetry. There was a man with a boot-toe chin, a toy man falling. The toy man had a broken nose slanted to the left: an offbeat metronome caught forever at the start of an upward stroke. Leto heard the crash of crockery--so distant--a roaring in his ears. His mind was a bin without end, catching everything. Everything that had ever been: every shout, every whisper, every . . . silence. One thought remained to him. Leto saw it in formless light on rays of black: The day the flesh shapes and the flesh the day shapes. The thought struck him with a sense of fullness he knew he could never explain. Silence.
I watched this in an IMAX theatre. It was so amazingly loud my ears were ringing for an hour afterwards. But at no point could I understand half of the soft spoken mumbling through this film. Beautiful as it may be.
Fun fact: they didnt use any practical effects or cgi to film this scene. Stellan actually trained for months prior to filming so he could levitate ominously in this scene, Denis loved it so much it made it into the final cut.
What better way to ensure loyalty from your subordinates than by showing them you don't honour your agreements or reward those who successfully obey your commands. From the Joker school of Dealing With Henchmen.
My thoughts exactly. "How to destroy your own regime: 101." Sometimes, villains are just too evil to exist. And I get really tired of the "Well, I never break my promises, and I said you could join her (the wife) and I killed her so here's some death" its such a trope, I roll my eyes every time I hear it.
Well in the books the Baron kept his subjects under control by a combination of fear and greed/addiction. For most of henchmen he probably kept their families hostage via the threat of torture or slavery while providing them some form of "entertainment". I do know that the Baron kept Piter under control via his spice addiction, while it was deeply implied that said mentant was into many perversions (which considering the endless slave pits of Giedi Prime, the Baron was able to provide). As for Head Rabban, his voice was violence and (to a lesser extent) gluttony. With his uncle in power he was free to exercise those against the fremen. Only Fay was more difficult to manage, but he was the heir apparent. Which brings us to Dr Yue. Under the assumption that his wife was alive what would have kept him loyal to house Harkonnen? He hated them and would probably plot against them. In tandem, the Baron showed that the Sook conditioning could be broken, which would have created a mini-crisis in the empire. If the doctor of a great house was broken, then no one was safe. And with his wife dead what use could a broken doctor who could harm people be to the Baron. Thus it was best just to kill him off and hit multiple birds with one stone.
Though not explicitly stated, Dr Yeoui cannot kill, which is why he had to use Leto as his proxy assassin. He stuns the guards as he initiates his betrayal of House Atreides, leaving them paralyzed on the floor with their eyes still open and aware. He comes closer to the Baron than any other adversary in this scene and the Baron, fully aware of the Dr's conditioning, makes a point of approaching him to well within striking distance and lingering there for some time, fully confident that the Dr simply cannot bring himself to do him harm. Otherwise the agreement with the Baron would have involved the Dr outright killing Leto himself in order to save his wife, whereas the current deal has the Dr bring Atreides down without directly killing anyone by his own hand. So much implied and understated in this absolute gem of a movie which only seems to get better and reveal more intricate details with every viewing. Not sure about poor Shadout though. Her death is the only thing i can't reconcile with the Dr's hyper-hypocratic sensibilities.
Pretty sure in the book Dr Yeoui says that the Born would never let him get close enough which is why he uses Leto as he knows that the Baron will want to get close to savour his victory.
The Bull's head represents death, and it is worth mentioning that the Bull was in the sad events of history (Death of Letho father). Seeing the symbol of it often throughout the film subconsciously instills some fear inside you.
The Duke was a good man in a universe that was paranoid, ruled by a paranoid Emperor. A good man is popular to the houses, and so the Emperor wants him dead. The Navigators want Paul dead, because they understand more of what is going on and see the Bene Gesserit as their enemy. Hidden among the Fremen and keeping his head down, like the desert mouse, OR becoming the revenging son and leading the Fremen against the Harkonnens and the Emperor by becoming the Hand of God became the choice. Each of the moons of Arrrakis shows how deeply this choice is built in: the mark on the first moon is called The Hand of God, and the second moon has The Mouse Shadow. We shall see what choices Paul makes and where they lead.
Who ever thought the director of Polytechnique and Incendies would become the latest finest sci-fi craftsman of cinema? And have us holding our breath so patiently.
In interviews he basically said he trained all his life, made all those previous movies as an exercise in order to make this adaptation. The way I understand it, he always wanted to make that movie, from day one. So that might explain a thing or two about the end result we are enjoying so far. Can't wait for the next part.
@@RottenMuLoT Haa, and that recent meeting with James Cameron, isn't it nice?? Canada rules(RIP the beautiful Jean-Marc Vallée by the way),Seen the stupendous cast ,Florence Pugh(blasts me in Midsommar&Little drummer girl),Austin Butler charming scary androgyn face,Léa Seydoux(finest french actress?!!), and the Walken, i wish i didn't know all those but i'd have a coronary in front of the screen....
He reminds me so much of a high school bully I had. He was almost this fat, and he'd just push you into a corner with his gut... you just couldn't fight back...
The Harkonnens are such sadists, Vladimir destroyed Leto's City, decimated his army entirely through such a diabolical plot, and even had the audacity to humiliate the Duke further by stripping him naked - it's so sad to see the proper and buttoned up Leto lying there so vulnerably exposed and utterly defeated.
I love Skarsgard portrayal of Baron so much. It's fucking perfect. He is the definition of desire even more ominous than in book. Like devil himself has bestowed upon mortals to suck the life out of everyone and everything to satisfy his never ending hunger.
It's a scary detail just how physically strong the Baron is despite his gluttony. Man lifted the doctor with one hand and decapitated him with a KNIFE.
In the books, at least, he is not strong. Or particularly gluttonous. The story can get kind of convoluted. But basically, when he was a young man, the benegeserit basically blackmailed him for his sperm*. Things didn't work out well the first time, so they went after him a second time- and that's where things get fucky. Basically, The Baron is a horrible sadist who gets off on torture and murder. The first time he had a hard time keeping it up. The second time he beat on the Benegeserit woman to keep it up. The thing about the Benegeserit though, is that they have basically total control over their own biology. She basically had several varieties of engineered virus held dormant in her body to use as weapons of last resort- and she basically released a horrible degenerative disease on him that made it almost impossible for him to retain muscle, and easy for him to gain weight. The thing about the Baron was that he was *very* proud of his appearance. He had been quite handsome and his physique, immaculate. The benegeserit in question chose this virus *specifically* to torment him and make him miserable. These days, the baron cannot even move under his own power- he need an anti-gravity harness to get around. BTW, the child of this union would be Lady Jessica, Mother of Paul Atreides. So the Baron is unknowingly conspiring to kill his daughter and grandchildren. Not that he'd particularly care if he did know. *The Benegeserit have a Eugenics program. It's complicated, and if you really want to know I'll explain it, but the hows and why's are pretty involved.
@@AsaelTheBeast That was actually Franks Son who added that. In the original story, it’s implied that the Harkonens do have a propensity to gain weight in their old age, and the Baron CERTAINLY enjoys his food.
What i love in Denis films are scenes like the one in 0:20. He uses the frame like a canvas to project pictures that affect our perception and show the scale, it's really great.
ok I had never noticed how the Baron straight-up decapitated Yueh in this scene, I always thought that he just sliced his throat but now I realize that you can clearly see him dropping his head on the ground at 1:56
At first, I thought that they stripped Leto down for "fanservice", but later I thought about it and realized they did it to shame him, humiliate him, and leave him vulnerable. Brillant move by the director.
execuse me but i am not really get it, if Paul Atreides is Baron's grandson, so Leto can be said is Baron's son-in-law, so why Baron at 0:32 called him "cousin"
Members of different royal households have often historically referred to each other as cousins, even if they have no direct relationship. Leto is of royal blood while the Baron is not, so when he calls him “cousin” he is essentially saying of equal status
For any non-dune fans wondering about the bull, lemme explain (some details come from the extended universe). That is a Salusan Bull, which were used in dangerous bull fighting. This one was the one that killed Leto's father, Paulus Atreides/Old Duke. Leto had the bull killed and mounted not only to remember his father, but as a reminder to never let his guard down.
Even better, they had the painting of the old Duke (wearing a matador outfit) hung directly opposite from the bull's head in the same dining room. And the bull's head was preserved perfectly, with even its horns still covered in blood.
I love how they made the Baron menacing and disgusting at the same time... One detail I really enjoyed was how he was chewing his food... mouth slightly open... as he has basically pre-determined that he was going to kill this man. The absolute lack of compassion and grace, combined with this... ominous menacing figure is a wonderful dichotomy. He's fat... he's disgusting.... and he's in control... boom
He turned on the shield though. I think the poison was so fast moving (why else would everyone else in the room instantly die) that it wasn't able to penetrate his shield enough to kill him.
@@stanpines9011 but he still got poisoned and almost died and it's weird how he almost died while everyone else dropped dead instantly which means that if the poison is in the body then you're 100% dead so he should've lived without any poisoning or died instantly
It was a good choice, in the books the poison did absolutely nothing to the baron. He said something like “well that could have been bad” - the problem with that it is made the bro look powerless, you’re hoping he’s heroic and goes out with an impact but in the books other than killing the Barons mentat who was in the room (which ultimately lead to the Barons downfall) he basically died for nothing. The only way to make him look cool and heroic is have the poison do some damage without actually killing off a main villain.
I haven’t seen this scene since going to watch in the theater and it’s still refreshing to see sci-fi so well shot and acted and edited, it’s so perfect.
Dr. Yueh is a very complicated character, I really like him. I would describe his moral as consequentialism. He didn't care if betraying Leto is bad, what was on his mind is to kill baron anyway.
I feel like Dune is everything Zach Snyder wants to and is trying to make, yet fails to grasp every single time thanks to him being unable to understand basic themes
@@marvils3683 Zach really wants to capture a similar dark-militaristic aesthetic and mature themes tackled in Dune but he lacks the skill needed to fully realize that kind of story. He’s decent at action but even then his reliance on slo-mo hinders more than it helps
I appreciate that - while it's subtle - they maintain Yueh's characterization from the books. His mental conditioning is supposed to be unbreakable, making it impossible for him to betray House Atreides. This makes it seem as though Baron Harkonnen did the impossible, but he didn't. In the books, ultimately Yueh did what he did because he knew the defeat of Harkonnen's attack was impossible. Everything he did was to get in a position to get back at the Baron. The same is true here; it's obvious from the moment Yueh enters that he knows EXACTLY what's about to happen, hence why he's shaking with nervousness as the Baron approaches and why he shows no surprise when the Baron confirms Yueh's wife is dead. Yueh knew all of that already, thus the plan with the poison tooth.
You can't handle the tooth!
The tooth...the tooth
A Few Good Teeth
Well done
Brilliant
You should get some kind of RUclips award for that comment!
“Here I am. Here I remain.”
The Atreides House words before death. Such a nice touch.
The day the flesh shapes and the flesh the day shapes.
Very fitting considering that they are greek
i'm so glad you clarified that for me, at first it sounds like he replies "your a ham..." 😂
@@jimmymcgill2557 no your a turkey! 🦃
It's a nice parallel to the Litany of Fear that Jessica says earlier in the film. "...where the fear is gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
I love the fact that the baron flicks on his shield before leaning in close. As far as he is concerned, his enemy is utterly defeated and moments from death, but he still acts with caution.
And that fact that he turned on his shield before leaning in is what saved him from certain death.
You don't get to be an all-powerful complete bastard without near-supernatural survival instincts, I'll give him that.
@@bluegum6438he might be cartoonish but he's no fool
@@bait5257 That's what I remember reading, anyway
@@bait5257 so how else would you explain how he survived while everyone else in the room died?
For anyone who didn't read the book, a bit of context on Dr. Yueh, since he was one of the characters that got really shorted by the film. He wasn't a delusional fool desperate for his wife's return. He already knew that the Harkonens had killed her, he wanted to be sure. Everything he did, betraying the Atreides, was towards his true goal: killing the Baron. And he knew that the Baron would never put himself into a vulnerable position unless he believed he was utterly victorious.
I suppose I need to read it again. One of the VERY few complaints I have about this movie is that the audience isn't made aware how significant that diamond tattoo is. The Imperial Suk School training is known to be absolutely unbreakable. The audience misses out on two things because of this. #1 Having that diamond tattoo basically makes a person 100% above suspicion. #2 It shows just how cruel and manipulative the Baron is. The fact that he fk'd Dr. Yueh's mind up bad enough to make him a traitor would seem like he had done the impossible.
Still a dumb move
Thank you.. I mean cool scene, but was wondering the backstory to the point made.
Leave it to a 4 year old
"You think you've defeated me? You think I don't know what I've gained for my wife!?" They really should have kept that.
2:49 Love the way the guards just decide "He's a goner" and shut the baron in.
LOL! Yep he ded nothing to see here 🤣
"I don't get paid enough for this shit"
Harkonen philosophy my friend, a classic case of “fuck you got mine.”
@@stingerjohnny9951 yet the Dukes men fought till death, a great comparison of the values of each house
They probably wanted to be as free of his tyranny as anyone else.
Let's just appreciate how fucking amazing an actor Oscar Isaacs is. Completely immobile, unable to really emote and he still sells the shit out of this.
I feel like stripping him his character was a meaning against the character,the opposing emperor humiliating and breaking him down.
@@c.glazercrush3994 Oh absolutely.
@@c.glazercrush3994 This had nothing to do with the Emperor. This was icing on the cake for my Uncle. This is him gloating. In the novel he's much more smart in this scene. He has been scheming for decades to eliminate the Atreides. He isn't stupid enough to get his hands dirty. Can't let the Truthsayers know. This is Vendetta being finalized against that loathsome Duke and his witch whore, Jessica.
lol no, you just buy this shit. original Dune was a masterpiece, this is bullshit.
This is such an intense and tragic scene in the books. It narrates him remembering flying kites with Paul when he was a little boy on the hills of Calladen. He mentally says his finally goodbyes to his wife and son and family before finally building the resolve to break the poison filled false tooth, killing him instantly. I had to put the book down after that chapter. So intense and saddening.
The out of focus shot of the Baron rising and slowly approaching really just gives off an aura of intimidation
I would say outright malice but I can still agree
Yeah, he was scary in this movie.
It also was easier to make him appear menacing that way rather than showing a floating fat man.
Es muy aterradora, casi fantasmal
He’s eating food while approaching Yueh. Like an animal.
I like how Leto's pose on the chair is reminiscent of a Greek sculpture. Their heritage.
The motif I saw was of Christ the Redeemer.
It might be a reference to " The Death of Marat" a Painting by Jacques-Louis David. It depicts the murder of Jean-Paul Marat(stabbed to death in his bathtub). As soon as I saw this scene, I couldn't help but make the comparisons. So cool.
@@robbramos2047you’re wrong for thinking that. Only people who are stupid sees that motif and not real movie and literature experts. Stop reaching you pretentious douche bag
I thought thry were a bunch of spaniards
@@mad-meh2719 this is also what I thought
I don't know why, but my favourite sound effect in the entire movie is that weird popping sound the Baron's suspensor always makes when he turns it on to float somewhere. You'd think a mechanism like that would make a whirring or humming sound like an electrical device but the popping sound just makes their future tech seem far more alien to me and I love that.
The shields are cool to
Yeah and also in Blade Runner 2049 this kind of similar sound effect is used for the floating cameras of Mr Wallace.
@@oneGodtobe yes EXACTLY ! It reminded me of bladerunner too.
No surprise it was also Hans Zimmer and pals :-)
I read a comment saying it sounded like rocks being ground together
@@Jarvis466 and then underwater :)
2:30-I find that little detail-of Baron Harkonen turning on his shield before leaning down to hear what Leto was saying. “But why,” one might ask. “Why take such precaution when there’s no obvious threat, no reason to assume anything is amiss or out of his control?” I think I have an answer. Vladimir simply feared the Duke of Calidan that much. Even stripped naked of all weapons and defenses, with his legions shattered, his household lost, his family apparently dead, betrayed and condemned to death by the Emperor himself, Leto Atreides still made the Baron afraid of him. And, as it turned out, rightly so.
That part was a tad rushed. In the book, it was Piter who killed Yueh. After, Yueh tells him “You think I haven’t gained anything for wife?” Leto on the other hand began hallucinating and Piter was asked to see what Leto was saying. Leto’s hallucinations made him mistaken Piter for the Baron. So he actually sprayed Piter, not the Baron.
A wise man once said: "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean no one is out to get you."
In the book the Baron survives an assassination attempt by Feyd whereby he puts a poison needle in the mole of a young man the Baron will molest. The Baron thought it cunning but it shows how careful he is in looking out for threats.
Because even unarmed, an Atreides is always a force to reckon with.
"You're only paranoid if you're wrong"
Wild detail: The Baron doesn't slit Yueh's throat, he beheads him. You can briefly see Yueh's head in the Baron's hand as he turns, and there are two thuds, one where Yueh's body hits the ground and one where his head hits the ground.
For all his gluttony and sloth, the Baron himself is still physically powerful and monstrous.
I thought this was pretty obvious though. The gesture he made was that he held yueh head to ensure the head will be severed. He would have used one hand if he only intend to slit
@@xxivkraegen2124nah
Pretty stupid and unrealistic actually. He cuts his head off with a single swipe of a little dinner table knife. Dumb.
@@themightiestpenin the wild sci fi world of dune where a 400 lb man can float through the air with ease and people see the future, this is where you draw the line? Weird
the Director said that Baron here is a Rhino in human form.
The actor playing the baron knows how to create a horrorfiinglty menacing presence
Stellan Skarsgard
part fo the crew, part of the ship
@@capitalismandkindness6774 hahaha pirats of the caribbean reference
Kenneth McMillan's Baron was like the Joker, if he got fat. A Comic-book villain. Ian McNiece's Baron was just the right mixture of egomaniac and intelligence that he made the comicbook-esqe Baron believable. But Stellan Skarsgard's Baron isn't egomaniacal at all. He's cold and intelligent. He doesn't telegraph his presence like a raging bull (Glossu Rabban), so that you know he's coming long before he gets there. No, Skarsgard's Baron is like a force of nature -- a tornado you don't see coming until the funnel forms right over your head.
@@BlackEpyon He's the Alfred Hitchcock cenobite
One thing I wish was added is the Baron's speech after killing the doctor, "I never trusts a traitor, even one made by my own hand." This greatly shows more of Vladimir cruel calculations of being precautious, knowing the horrors his faction inflicted on different worlds and those people wanting him dead.
I think it’s a reference to Julius Caesar’s quote, “I love treason, but hate traitors.”
I think Ian McNiece sold it well in the Sci-FI channel series. Being both egotistical and intelligent (a rare combination), he wants everybody to know how clever he is. But I don't think it would have worked for Stellan Skarsgard's version of the Baron. He's introspective, not egotistical. More like a brute force of nature; a tornado that you don't see coming until the funnel forms right on top of you.
It would be spoon-feeding information to viewer. Actual scene tells this message enough without saying
No, it just shows that traitors, by definition, cannot be trusted. It's as simple as that.
That is why his name is Vladimir.
I feel so fucking sorry for Leto. I mean yeah, he's immobile, stripped naked etc. But the most painful thing is he died thinking that he failed to protect his love and his only blood. His /only/ son. Oh wow the pain that must bring...
In the book, he actually knows jessica and paul are still alive because the baron asks him where they are hiding. It's what gives him strength in the final moment. he accepts it and dies by trying to kill the baron to save his love and son.
thats the most horrific part. naked and immobile. no fair fight
At least he died thinking he avenged them by killing the baron,piter and his men.
@@Catarssis347 I think you completely missed the point. Avenging loved ones like that is extremely hollow when compared to what op said. By far the most painful thing is someone dying thinking their loved ones are already dead.
@@jonnyj. no you’re wrong
Atreides soldiers: Fight to the death to defend their leader.
Harkonnen soldiers (literally the minute the Baron's in danger): May the force be with you, cuz we sure ain't!
😅😅
I love how the baron is loudly eating and still chewing as he executes someone. It not only showcases how gluttonous he is, but also how he views most matters as a distraction from his pleasures, and thus wipes them away with a nonchalant wave of the hand.
The Baron is brilliant but lazy, and if he had his way, he’d have the entire universe serving him as he pigged out. Hell, that’s basically his grand plan, endless power and wealth for endless pleasure.
Well, not really. He has a disease that one of the bene geserit mothers inflicted on him to make him fat. He keeps his imagine of gluttony so no one finds out that he got infected by BG
@@radekhruby142 Really? I must have missed that. When was that mentioned in the books, now I’m curious!
@@stingerjohnny9951 It was in the prequel books. I think its in Prelude Dune: Harkonnen. There is the story about him and the reverend mother
@@stingerjohnny9951 He actually had a big pride in his muscular built before that :D
@@radekhruby142 Is that one of the Dune fanfiction books that happened after Herbert’s death?
The sound of the baron's spine cracking when he activates his suspensors are extremely satisfying especially in IMAX
I can vicariously feel my own spine popping as I listen to it.
OMG I just realized his back pops and cracks cuz its suddenly in zero g and the weight of his body is now off of it so it expands again, making that popping/cracking sound
@@ryanfrauenholz8972bruh
the whole character / stellan is ASMR. be it the popping gentle noise of his suspensor device, be it his thick raspy voice, especially in the healing bath
I love the irony of the Baron's weight being so immense that he can barely move without a device to control gravity, as being the very thing that saved his life from the poison. It took so long to pass through his body that the Harkonnen doctors could find a way to keep the Baron alive before he succumbed.
Honestly I'm surprised the harkonnens who found him didn't just let him die there. The Baron is a very cruel leader
2:44 I like this moment better in the movie than in the book. In the book, while Piter and several guards do fall dead, the Baron just leans back and goes “well, that could have been dangerous!” and leaves the room like nothing happened. It was a strike to the face for any reader who thought Leto would go out like a hero, for the person directly in front of him to not have suffered even the tiniest bit. This, and the fact that the Baron has to slowly recuperate from the poison throughout the movie, puts a little more power behind Leto and the Atreides name as a whole.
That's not how it happens in the book. The Baron is never close to Leto to be poisoned and still barely manages to escape the room through a side exit. It's Piter who leans over Leto and gets a face full of poison gas since Leto thinks it's actually the Baron. It's in the Baron's own thoughts that he eluded the Duke's revenge only through dumb luck and that he might as well have died in that room. It's one of the very few times we see the Baron actually shaken by an experience, only for that feeling to be compounded when the Sardaukar lieutenant appears out of nowhere to order him around and reprimands him for the Duke's treatment. I like the movie's version as well, since it's more cinematic this way.
@@BLooDCoMPleX Oh. Guess I read it wrong. Sorry
@@BLooDCoMPleX You're right. The less than stellar but still enjoyable first attempt actually shows this scene more accurately. I like this interpretation better.
@@modemmack Mee too, this scene and the scene with lients/kynes death is just wayyyy better and gives the justified respect to both of those characters, not like in the movie
I liked the scene in the book. The baron is sent into a desperate rush to safety, and is shocked to be tricked when he was most sure of himself. He loses important assets to his plan (the mentat Piter) The baron absolutely does not just lean back and leave as if nothing happened. He is in complete shock.
His finger swipe over the shield shows what a nasty person the baron is. The treacherous are ever distrustful.
I think it shows that he is still afraid of Leto.
He is smart and calculated at all times, like all good villains.
In the book Yueh is killed by the Barron's Mentat assassin. As he dies he leaves the Barron with final words. The Barron becomes full of doubt and fear afterwards as the posion led to a mess for the Emperor's dogs to discover and relay the weakness to him
He is the opposite of Leto.
Leto is a respected scholar-warrior.
Vladamir is a brutal and underhanded opportunist.
Harkonnen leaders who aren't paranoid end up murdered and replaced by their kin.
This scene really shows the difference between the two houses, the barons men on the outside quickly shut the doors to avoid beinf poisoned and killed themselves. While Letos men died fighting, while we wont know for sure, i believe that if Leto was in a room filling with poison gas, his solders would rush to extract him
Why are all Harkonnen men white? Holywood is again trying to sell us some subliminal message in a "subtle" way? Or is there some plausible reason that I overlooked?
perhaps, yet if the situation was reversed that way they would surely die.
@@nIhIl34 lord Leto was considered an honorable lord, his men would have gladly given their lives if it meant a chance to save their lord.
I just noticed at 2:19 a tear falls from Leto's eye. This scene was both horrifying and heartbreaking. I can't wait until Part II when the baron meets the Atreides' gom jabbar.
At first I thought that the tear meant that Leto was like "NO! F*ck, I didn't get him!", but recently I had read a comment were someone said that the tear could be a little reference to the book, where Leto had a brief memory of his entire life and raising Paul on Caladan before he died.
It’s never easy sitting down to a meal with your father in law.
That relates to the scene in the 1984 movie where Leto says, with tears in his eyes, 'The water of my life...for Paul.'
I like the Baron, he's a total boss and Duke Leto to be brutally honest failed. He (Leto) knew he was walking into a trap, and even know he was surround by advisors, had the Lady Jessica as his main hump, and a mentat, he didn't ever clue into the fact that his Doctor was compromised.
@@Neville60001 In the 1984 version the tear in the Duke Leto's eye at the end freaks out that Baron, he didn't expect him to cry and doesn't like the new "element" in his plan. He demands to know why he is crying and hence the reason Piter has to lean in and deal with it.
I really wish we'd get to see more of Piter, I know he dies and I know most of his machinations happened before all of this takes place but it would have been cool to see Piter in action! Piter figuring out the play, and Piter torturing the Doctors wife simply because I would have liked to have seen what they did to her, and I really want to see these pain amplification chambers. Supposedly Piter tortured her in one of these, as well has getting his rocks off with her.
Stellan absolutely owned the role. It's a shame they didn't do more with him, even though I understand the reasons for it. Gave off some serious Colonel Kurtz/Marlon Brando vibes.
Yeah he was awesome.
Part 2 will happend
That’s exactly what they were going for.
good roles and actors dont need huge run time in a movie to steal the show like hannibal in silence of the lambs. i believe it was like 15 mins run time for him which even won him an oscar. his presence in this movie was almost at that level
@@MrVad3rhonestly there are actors and actresses in both films that seem to be at that level. I thought the Princess, Emperor, and Feyd-Rautha all stole the show in their own way.
Also Duncan Idaho, the Baron, and Stiltgar in the first film.
The Baron is my favorite character in the movie. I too, am fat, bald, and evil.
U black or jewish?
@@timothyandrewnielsen green
😂😂😂
But can you fly too?
😂🤣
I love how the soundtrack, at the moment Leto breathes his last, turns to fierce female vocals, almost as if the voice is crying out in mourning for Leto.
The camera shot framing is incredible in this scene:
1) at 1:10, the focus on Leto while the baron is moving in the distance, showing that the duke is completely defenseless and immobile (like everyone else in the room actually)
2) at 1:20, the subtle use of the dolly zoom (transtrav), as if the baron was the great white shark swooping down on his prey.
3) at 1:27, the slow appearance of the baron in the screen, invading Dr. Huey's personnal space.
Holy hell, this is CINEMA.
Oooooohhhh well said. Denis knows how to make his films.
Explained the scene very well
The guys who shut the doors surely had a pleasant conversation with their supervisors after.
I love the realism (subtle detail at 1:23) the Baron bumps his foot as if descending a bit too soon. Showing just a glimpse of his carelessness of himself.
I’ve rewatched this clip like 5 times now…
Was that in the books...? Cuzz I'll be very honest with you - if it wasn't I would bet a lot more money that was just unintentional xD Basing that on the assumption that the effect was made via a harness of sorta lifting the actor up and slowly "gliding" him towards the camera - the eery effect of not seeing his face as he glides would also allow for an easy hiding of the harness and ropes :p
And yes, I could ofc be wrong - and I do hope I don't come off as too much of a buzzkill xP I just enjoy seeing and trying to figure out how effects in movies are made - a lil "spot the vfx and practical effects" game if you will.
@nexusvoid367 they probably filmed that same scene 5-10 times (or more), so if it WAS intentional, they chose to keep and use that version where he hits his foot on the table. They probably filmed some where he doesnt hit the table, some where he moves faster, some where he moves slower... then they pick which shot fits the final edit of the movie.
@@ejdolo I do agree that they probably chose to keep it and didn't miss the fact it happened or smth xD
I just really doubt they went for that specifically if you know what I mean?
I'm not native English nor do I know a lot of the terminology, but basically I doubt the director gave instruction on wanting this in the shot xP
But as you said, it's fairly likely this happenedand director could simply see it as fitting, likely in the exact way that the OG commenter said.
Film: He bumped his foot
Commentors: This shows he is careless and arrogant and capable of making mistakes which could be foreshadowing that his downfall will be due to his own mistakes out of sheer hubris.
It's not so crazy when you're creating something you care about, and every little detail or moment is an opportunity to showcase things like characterization and visual scrutiny, especially if you're adapting a text already so rich with tiny details like Dune.
I get it, a lot of people have beef with "over-analysis", probably because they remember having to analyze a book in school that felt like only your English teacher cared about it. But it's a real skill, not just for consumers, but for creators too. It is how good media is made.
“Here I am, Here I Remain” -the dying words of Leto Atreides
I hope Leto had time to savor the look of terror on Harkonnen's face in his last moments.
"Here I am. Here I remain."
The power of BAD BREATH
In the book, although Leto dies, in his last breath he kills many Harkonnens including Pytr DeVries...the mentat...The loss of the Baron's invaluable mentat set the stage for his downfall...He made many miscalculations after this. Leto and Dr Yueh did get their revenge.
you're saying this as though it's different here in the film, but it's not, lol.
@@breadonitsown8950 It is the film really does not show or articulate the mistakes he starts to make like putting Raban in charge of the planet.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Thats not a mistake lol. He puts Raban in charge of Arrakis because everyone thinks Paul and Jessica are death and he wants to make the populace hate Raban so Feyd-Rautha can take over Arrakis and be hailed a savior, setting him up as his successor.
he wanted to have Piter killed in the book. He offered control of arrakis to him and would have him squeeze the people enough for them to hate him. After this scene though the control of arrakis was given to Rabban for the same reason. His only desire was to have Feyd-Rautha come in as a saviour and the result would have been the same either way
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Putting Raban in charge of Dune again is not a mistake. He's doing that because he wants Raban to terrorize the planet and then the Baron will put Feyd in charge and the people will welcome Feyd as a savior.
“There is a legend that the instant the Duke Leto Atreides died a meteor streaked across the skies above his ancestral palace on Caladan.”
- From “Introduction to a Child’s History of Muad’Dib” By the Princess Irulan
Shouldn't it be ON Caladan?
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Vladmir called leto his cousin just like Paul called Feyd his cousin in Dune 2, what an Easter egg for the fans.
Never trust a traitor.... Even one you create.... Baron Vladimir harkonnen
Here I am... Here I remain... what a line
This scene also marks the inevitable loss of the Harkonnens as the loss of Piter struck a terrible blow to their intelligence network. Having to rely on the services of Thufir was problematic since he would never act in the same capacity in addition to hating their guts.
If it's effective range was so far, then the poison tooth was wasted. Leto could have used it any time the Baron was in the room and before he was shielded. But maybe he didn't know that.
He made up his mind upon hearing his family is dead.
He wanted him close. See the defeat in his eyes.
@@Soothsayer-rs5nb That is a factor. But he would not try killing the Baron without knowing what happened to his family first. The Harkonnens can be very sadistic, and the Duke knows what unspeakable horrors they are capable of, especially to his family if Leto tries anything to piss them off. Remember, there are still 2 Harkonnens left outside the room.
In the book he’s just coming back to consciousness and it takes him a few minutes to remember his last conversation with Yueh. Also the Baron had his shield activated the entire time. So in the book it’s more by habit than strategy why he lived.
@@sks17873 That's true. But in the movie it's a bit different; he's conscious all throughout albeit paralized.
The chapter in the book that describes this is heartbreaking.
This scene is amazing and also a departure from the books. The Doctor knew his wife was dead and thought he was killing the Duke, the Baron, and himself in this act to get close.
you didn't see the movie?
Fucking moron placed Arakis under Capitalist/Military Dictatorship only to get a chance of revenge against Baron. Asshole. I am glad Baron sliced his head off. Selfish bastard.
@@ArbiterDan Even in the book Yue was almost sure that the Baron had killed his wife already but not 100% sure.
Leto sensed memories rolling in his mind--the old toothless mutterings of
hags. The room, the table, the Baron, a pair of terrified eyes--blue within
blue, the eyes--all compressed around him in ruined symmetry.
There was a man with a boot-toe chin, a toy man falling. The toy man had a
broken nose slanted to the left: an offbeat metronome caught forever at the
start of an upward stroke. Leto heard the crash of crockery--so distant--a
roaring in his ears. His mind was a bin without end, catching everything.
Everything that had ever been: every shout, every whisper, every . . . silence.
One thought remained to him. Leto saw it in formless light on rays of black:
The day the flesh shapes and the flesh the day shapes. The thought struck him
with a sense of fullness he knew he could never explain.
Silence.
Gotta love Frank Herbert's use of poetic imagery. The guy was a master wordsmith.
@@BlackEpyon Indeed, those words indeed got stuck in my memory.
@@ShepardCZ you had this in your memory?
@@ryanhughes1101 No, I just remembered reading it in the book.
Has it anything to do with the fact that he is going to be resurrected and united with Jessica 5000 years later?
I watched this in an IMAX theatre. It was so amazingly loud my ears were ringing for an hour afterwards. But at no point could I understand half of the soft spoken mumbling through this film. Beautiful as it may be.
Sounds like you got bad ears
@@aaronsanders6162 probably old ears lol
To be fair, a lot of the speaking was in languages we wouldn't know
I understood more of the mumbling in Dune than the muffled non-mumbling in Tenet.
I agree my man, saw it in IMAX too, and it was too loud.
Fun fact: they didnt use any practical effects or cgi to film this scene. Stellan actually trained for months prior to filming so he could levitate ominously in this scene, Denis loved it so much it made it into the final cut.
Dune is basically just Game of Thrones in space and I love it.
"Remember! The tooth! The TOOTH! THE TOOTH! The tooth shall set you free!"
- Ex gf.
That’s a damn sharp knife.
Or maybe the Baron is much stronger than he seems? To cut off a head without even swinging is very difficult even if the knife is crazy sharp.
Sonic-Edged. It makes cutting meat easier with less effort.
Mono molecular edged knives are possible in the year 10,000.😉
Lol. Nerds
@@martiedoherty5765 Aren't those hard to make and every blacksmiths ultimate goal?
What better way to ensure loyalty from your subordinates than by showing them you don't honour your agreements or reward those who successfully obey your commands. From the Joker school of Dealing With Henchmen.
My thoughts exactly. "How to destroy your own regime: 101." Sometimes, villains are just too evil to exist. And I get really tired of the "Well, I never break my promises, and I said you could join her (the wife) and I killed her so here's some death" its such a trope, I roll my eyes every time I hear it.
I think it is rather an effective example tho, it tells everyone in the room that traitors will not be treated kindly.
@@pko359 And that there's no point in co-operating with him if he kidnaps your wife, cause he'll just kill her, and you anyway.
Well in the books the Baron kept his subjects under control by a combination of fear and greed/addiction. For most of henchmen he probably kept their families hostage via the threat of torture or slavery while providing them some form of "entertainment". I do know that the Baron kept Piter under control via his spice addiction, while it was deeply implied that said mentant was into many perversions (which considering the endless slave pits of Giedi Prime, the Baron was able to provide). As for Head Rabban, his voice was violence and (to a lesser extent) gluttony. With his uncle in power he was free to exercise those against the fremen. Only Fay was more difficult to manage, but he was the heir apparent. Which brings us to Dr Yue.
Under the assumption that his wife was alive what would have kept him loyal to house Harkonnen? He hated them and would probably plot against them. In tandem, the Baron showed that the Sook conditioning could be broken, which would have created a mini-crisis in the empire. If the doctor of a great house was broken, then no one was safe. And with his wife dead what use could a broken doctor who could harm people be to the Baron.
Thus it was best just to kill him off and hit multiple birds with one stone.
It is because Dune is poorly written
My god Dune is absolutely popping off. Look at that. 1 million views. And hundreds of thousands on other videos.
This makes me so happy.
This movie’s audio design is exceptional.
Though not explicitly stated, Dr Yeoui cannot kill, which is why he had to use Leto as his proxy assassin.
He stuns the guards as he initiates his betrayal of House Atreides, leaving them paralyzed on the floor with their eyes still open and aware.
He comes closer to the Baron than any other adversary in this scene and the Baron, fully aware of the Dr's conditioning, makes a point of approaching him to well within striking distance and lingering there for some time, fully confident that the Dr simply cannot bring himself to do him harm.
Otherwise the agreement with the Baron would have involved the Dr outright killing Leto himself in order to save his wife, whereas the current deal has the Dr bring Atreides down without directly killing anyone by his own hand.
So much implied and understated in this absolute gem of a movie which only seems to get better and reveal more intricate details with every viewing.
Not sure about poor Shadout though. Her death is the only thing i can't reconcile with the Dr's hyper-hypocratic sensibilities.
Pretty sure in the book Dr Yeoui says that the Born would never let him get close enough which is why he uses Leto as he knows that the Baron will want to get close to savour his victory.
@@rupertbe Where are you guys getting this weird spelling from? It's Dr Yueh, not Yeoui.
exaggerated. movie does not reveal those details nor give you any clues. you know these because you've read the book.
What about the house keeper who was stabbed?
I never read that they couldn’t kill…
The Bull's head represents death, and it is worth mentioning that the Bull was in the sad events of history (Death of Letho father). Seeing the symbol of it often throughout the film subconsciously instills some fear inside you.
Harka is an ox in danish I think
I liked his Duke Leto so much ,it sucked knowing what was coming for him
The Duke was a good man in a universe that was paranoid, ruled by a paranoid Emperor.
A good man is popular to the houses, and so the Emperor wants him dead.
The Navigators want Paul dead, because they understand more of what is going on and see the Bene Gesserit as their enemy.
Hidden among the Fremen and keeping his head down, like the desert mouse, OR becoming the revenging son and leading the Fremen against the Harkonnens and the Emperor by becoming the Hand of God became the choice.
Each of the moons of Arrrakis shows how deeply this choice is built in: the mark on the first moon is called The Hand of God, and the second moon has The Mouse Shadow.
We shall see what choices Paul makes and where they lead.
the Baron’s chewing and floating is so hatable and mesmerizing at the same time.
And the way he ate was so damn disgusting lol.
@@shauna.a8701 It’s like The Skeksis from Dark Crystal. You are disgusted, but you can’t look away.
I feel like Baron Vladimir is based on Henry the VIII. Gluttonous, ruthless, and has an imposing figure. The lips smacking exemplifies that even more.
I agree
Who ever thought the director of Polytechnique and Incendies would become the latest finest sci-fi craftsman of cinema? And have us holding our breath so patiently.
In interviews he basically said he trained all his life, made all those previous movies as an exercise in order to make this adaptation. The way I understand it, he always wanted to make that movie, from day one. So that might explain a thing or two about the end result we are enjoying so far. Can't wait for the next part.
@@RottenMuLoT Haa, and that recent meeting with James Cameron, isn't it nice?? Canada rules(RIP the beautiful Jean-Marc Vallée by the way),Seen the stupendous cast ,Florence Pugh(blasts me in Midsommar&Little drummer girl),Austin Butler charming scary androgyn face,Léa Seydoux(finest french actress?!!), and the Walken, i wish i didn't know all those but i'd have a coronary in front of the screen....
Here rests Leto, he slayed many with a single dying breath. Here he shall remain.
1:27 the fat baron floats up to Yueh is such a masterful scene. He looks so indifferent, intimidating and just dominating.
Baron. Each house uses different titles.
He reminds me so much of a high school bully I had. He was almost this fat, and he'd just push you into a corner with his gut... you just couldn't fight back...
@@Rudolph1722 The Baron is even worse given he can actually rub two brain cells together.
The Harkonnens are such sadists, Vladimir destroyed Leto's City, decimated his army entirely through such a diabolical plot, and even had the audacity to humiliate the Duke further by stripping him naked - it's so sad to see the proper and buttoned up Leto lying there so vulnerably exposed and utterly defeated.
I just realized the baron didn’t cut the dr’s throat, he cut his head OFF
I love Skarsgard portrayal of Baron so much. It's fucking perfect. He is the definition of desire even more ominous than in book. Like devil himself has bestowed upon mortals to suck the life out of everyone and everything to satisfy his never ending hunger.
It's a scary detail just how physically strong the Baron is despite his gluttony. Man lifted the doctor with one hand and decapitated him with a KNIFE.
In the books, at least, he is not strong. Or particularly gluttonous.
The story can get kind of convoluted. But basically, when he was a young man, the benegeserit basically blackmailed him for his sperm*. Things didn't work out well the first time, so they went after him a second time- and that's where things get fucky.
Basically, The Baron is a horrible sadist who gets off on torture and murder. The first time he had a hard time keeping it up. The second time he beat on the Benegeserit woman to keep it up. The thing about the Benegeserit though, is that they have basically total control over their own biology. She basically had several varieties of engineered virus held dormant in her body to use as weapons of last resort- and she basically released a horrible degenerative disease on him that made it almost impossible for him to retain muscle, and easy for him to gain weight.
The thing about the Baron was that he was *very* proud of his appearance. He had been quite handsome and his physique, immaculate. The benegeserit in question chose this virus *specifically* to torment him and make him miserable. These days, the baron cannot even move under his own power- he need an anti-gravity harness to get around.
BTW, the child of this union would be Lady Jessica, Mother of Paul Atreides. So the Baron is unknowingly conspiring to kill his daughter and grandchildren. Not that he'd particularly care if he did know.
*The Benegeserit have a Eugenics program. It's complicated, and if you really want to know I'll explain it, but the hows and why's are pretty involved.
@@AsaelTheBeast That was actually Franks Son who added that. In the original story, it’s implied that the Harkonens do have a propensity to gain weight in their old age, and the Baron CERTAINLY enjoys his food.
Later He was resurrected by Khonsu and became the Moon Knight.
Nice
Harkonnen invaded because they wanted some good food, apparently.
They wanted spicy food.
This scene looks like a Caravaggio painting.
What i love in Denis films are scenes like the one in 0:20. He uses the frame like a canvas to project pictures that affect our perception and show the scale, it's really great.
I could never bring myself to trust a traitor, not even one I created.
Last dying breath… literally.
That's his morning breath.
He just woke up.
Prigozhin had it coming.
So Later the Baron says " so you locked me in here Mr Doormen "
??? Part of the Dukes' response is missing ...his complete response to Baron Harkonnen. was.. "here I am..here I shall remain. ".
This movie is shot so beautifully
You think Thanksgiving with that one alcoholic uncle is awkward....
This was the standout scene which made me realize that I'm watching a special series.
Something about Harkonnen's gliding is perfectly eerie.
ok I had never noticed how the Baron straight-up decapitated Yueh in this scene, I always thought that he just sliced his throat but now I realize that you can clearly see him dropping his head on the ground at 1:56
At first, I thought that they stripped Leto down for "fanservice", but later I thought about it and realized they did it to shame him, humiliate him, and leave him vulnerable. Brillant move by the director.
also for the fanservice.
@@scottmatheson3346 And we're grateful 🙏
execuse me but i am not really get it, if Paul Atreides is Baron's grandson, so Leto can be said is Baron's son-in-law, so why Baron at 0:32 called him "cousin"
Members of different royal households have often historically referred to each other as cousins, even if they have no direct relationship. Leto is of royal blood while the Baron is not, so when he calls him “cousin” he is essentially saying of equal status
The two Harkonnen guards made it out and closed the doors.
Yeah they were like "yeah, not today"
@@EddyBMultimedia Remember that you do not have to be the fastest to survive. You just have to be faster than the slowest one.
@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 i mean this is the one scenario when thats not the case.
The Baron is so scary and menacing in new Dune. Yet Emperor call him flying fat man, imagine the power Emperor have.
Yueh should've told Leto about his situation. I'm sure Atreides would have figure something out about this.
For any non-dune fans wondering about the bull, lemme explain (some details come from the extended universe).
That is a Salusan Bull, which were used in dangerous bull fighting. This one was the one that killed Leto's father, Paulus Atreides/Old Duke.
Leto had the bull killed and mounted not only to remember his father, but as a reminder to never let his guard down.
Thanks for that, I was thinking it was some Harkonnen relic from when they'd garrisoned it previously.
Even better, they had the painting of the old Duke (wearing a matador outfit) hung directly opposite from the bull's head in the same dining room.
And the bull's head was preserved perfectly, with even its horns still covered in blood.
@@xonxt yeah I remember reading and then realizing it was the old duke's actual blood they also had preserved on the horns of the bull. Wow......
1:40 I remembered this line differently. I thought he said "I didn't say I'd set her free, I said you could see her again".
Chernobyl really did a number on Boris😂
Stellan Skarsgard is an amazing actor
I love the atmosphere of this scene. At 0:17 the lighting and the way it's framed looks like a desolate renaissance painting.
I love how they made the Baron menacing and disgusting at the same time... One detail I really enjoyed was how he was chewing his food... mouth slightly open... as he has basically pre-determined that he was going to kill this man. The absolute lack of compassion and grace, combined with this... ominous menacing figure is a wonderful dichotomy. He's fat... he's disgusting.... and he's in control... boom
This guy's plot armor is insane, he got the instant death gas blown right into his face and he still lived
He turned on the shield though. I think the poison was so fast moving (why else would everyone else in the room instantly die) that it wasn't able to penetrate his shield enough to kill him.
@@stanpines9011 but he still got poisoned and almost died and it's weird how he almost died while everyone else dropped dead instantly which means that if the poison is in the body then you're 100% dead so he should've lived without any poisoning or died instantly
@@ancard3118 no-one else had a shield except the Baron
It was a good choice, in the books the poison did absolutely nothing to the baron. He said something like “well that could have been bad” - the problem with that it is made the bro look powerless, you’re hoping he’s heroic and goes out with an impact but in the books other than killing the Barons mentat who was in the room (which ultimately lead to the Barons downfall) he basically died for nothing.
The only way to make him look cool and heroic is have the poison do some damage without actually killing off a main villain.
I haven’t seen this scene since going to watch in the theater and it’s still refreshing to see sci-fi so well shot and acted and edited, it’s so perfect.
POV: you just cracked a mint in your mouth
Just wanna point out how good Oscar Isaac’s physique looks in this scene. 😂
Yes .I wanna sit on it while looking at the body lol
Dr. Yueh is a very complicated character, I really like him. I would describe his moral as consequentialism. He didn't care if betraying Leto is bad, what was on his mind is to kill baron anyway.
This is how my boss acts when we’re both on lunch at the same time.
God, with those disgusting eating noises, this was hard to get through 😢
I feel like Dune is everything Zach Snyder wants to and is trying to make, yet fails to grasp every single time thanks to him being unable to understand basic themes
What
@@marvils3683 Zach really wants to capture a similar dark-militaristic aesthetic and mature themes tackled in Dune but he lacks the skill needed to fully realize that kind of story. He’s decent at action but even then his reliance on slo-mo hinders more than it helps
jesus that head thump is so real its horrifying
Jesus
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the blocking and camera work of the harkonnen's after being poisoned is just..art.
That awkward moment when your first reaction is to lock your boss in the room full of poison.
As a young film maker going for my bachelors rn I want to just make stories that every second has this tense feeling of art
I appreciate that - while it's subtle - they maintain Yueh's characterization from the books. His mental conditioning is supposed to be unbreakable, making it impossible for him to betray House Atreides. This makes it seem as though Baron Harkonnen did the impossible, but he didn't. In the books, ultimately Yueh did what he did because he knew the defeat of Harkonnen's attack was impossible. Everything he did was to get in a position to get back at the Baron. The same is true here; it's obvious from the moment Yueh enters that he knows EXACTLY what's about to happen, hence why he's shaking with nervousness as the Baron approaches and why he shows no surprise when the Baron confirms Yueh's wife is dead. Yueh knew all of that already, thus the plan with the poison tooth.
"His dying breath" in the most literal sense.
Here i am, here i remain