If u dont have it i recommend a battery pole saw it can keep u out of harms way could cut from the main spare and didn't have to be lanyard in on that broken piece which is really sketchy by the way.. i thought yall would at least back it up with a heavy line and ring for safety...not trying to knock on just concerned...u always do great work and u are very humble thats what i like about u most..be safe sir
I actually have a battery polesaw on the way right now and was hoping it would arrive in time for this project, but it did not. We did discuss rigging it up and pretensioning with the GRCS. Once we determined it was hung up by that limb at the top, we felt pretty certain that it wasn't going to go anywhere until we triggered it. If it had just been hanging on by fibers, there is no way we would have worked it like we did.
Lots of opinions on the wisdom of your approach by youtubers who weren't there. I like that you two worked much of the broken top from above. I'll keep that in mind for my next broken out top. Thanks.
Indeed, I don't always do a fantastic job of representing a situation for what it truely is and sometimes that makes it hard for other to share my perspective about a situation. It can be good though. I really enjoy and appreciate hearing other folks' ideas and aspirations.
Thumbs up and Good morning. I'm finishing up a few things and then I'm going to hop on a bus I'm headed to the lake for the Polar Plunge I'm not going in the water but I'm going to watch for the first time. I don't know what makes me think I have spare time to do something like that but I'm going to do it right after church😂
@@zaccheus I don't think Lake Ontario has frozen over. I don't think it ever does I have not and would not do anything like that just in case my heart stopped LOL
@deadmanswife3625 lol, thats a fair reason to avoid a cold plunge in open water 😂 the great lakes always perplex me. Some years lake erie down here freezes, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it partially freezes 🤷♂️
Thanks man! That was an 18" bar on Jon's 200T. I typically climb with a 201T that has a 16" light bar, but we had his saw with us, so that's what I used 😊
I would of been tied into the main stem with spikes on and just lean out and cut it so I wouldnt of been tied into the broken part. Could of done it way safer for sure. But overall got done safely all that really matters
Spikes are kinda hard on live tree though 😅 I was able to stay on the main stems there near the end, but that was only after we got some limbs off that allowed the top to swing back a little closer to the main stem. Someone else mentioned using a pole saw. I hate using big, heavy things in trees, but it might have been a safer solution, too.
@@zaccheus that tree is gonna become a more natural habitat than a live tree with how much was left and its just gonna rot more. And the spikes would not of hurt it with how hurt it already was. A pole saw would of worked but a waste of time
@brandon-rustystreecare Maybe you're right 🤷♂️ spiking it would have no real effect on the number of years that the tree will remain upright. But unless you have substantially longer arms than I or Jon have, you wouldn't have been able to make the same cuts from the stem.
@@zaccheus i wouldnt of made all those cuts like thay bc like you said under the tree was little sapling with no real value I and I have been tied in and almost laying down and able to reach out 10 feet
Thanks man! Haha, that's okay. I learn more from alternative perspectives, and I do from similar perspectives, so I'm always happy to speak with someone who respectfully shares an alternative solution.
Zach thank God that ugly hanger went well very dangerous I can understand if there was an actual hazzard but why risk injury or dieing for a tree that one cut at bottom could take.care of it trust me tension on those limbs can really hurt you I cut white oak branch with tension on it only 2 in or so out of bucket truck when relieved tension hit my elbow needless to say ended up in ER 4 hrs later after they stitched my elbow. Please be extremely careful not with it for video content also base of tree look like had issues also
Thank you for your concern and sharing your experience. Those kinds of things do remind me to spend more time thinking and less time doing. We did consider cutting the tree down as a whole, but it wasn't what the park was looking for which is why they called Jon. It would have been pretty risky to fall too I think. With a hanger that big, it's hard to tell where exactly it's gonna go and how far it's going to reach. You're absolutely right, no tree is worth life or injury, I did not do a really good job of explaining our evaluation of the situation, but we did spend a good bit of time thinking and considering our options and we determined that our route was the safest route to accomplishing the goals for the job. That doesn't mean that it actually was the safest option, it's just what our experience and judgement determined to be the safest. I, especially, am not always 100% right.
All good hate to see anyone get hurt or killed had a friend die last year while felling tree with a assisted excavator pushing it rolled wrong way landed on him on a tree didn't matter which way it went
@robertvannicolo4435 I'm so sorry to hear that, Robert. Felling is a dangerous game. I had my own close call once and it definitely encouraged me to take safety more seriously.
yeah buddy, your tie in limb was awful wiggly but you don't weigh anything anyway. You usually use a 201T? I've never really paid much attention to it. Good job you and John make a good team.
Haha, I'm 155 normal and 190ish with gear, but I didn't have full gear for that climb anyway 😅 my top handle saw is a 201T, the 200T was Jon's. Might have to race them someday 🤷♂️
@fabianostermaier6421 thank you for sharing that idea! We did consider something like that. But we could not get a truck close enough to pull and even if we could, I believe there would have been a strong chance that we broke the limb that the top was hanging on. It was definitely something worth considering though
@TheToolnut I am not familiar with that brand. I looked them up, and it looks like a solid collection of portable capstan winches. I really like that they use 2 stoke engines rather than some competitors that use 4 stroke engines. I don't typically have a use for a winch like that, but I would expect it to be very handy when needed.
If u dont have it i recommend a battery pole saw it can keep u out of harms way could cut from the main spare and didn't have to be lanyard in on that broken piece which is really sketchy by the way.. i thought yall would at least back it up with a heavy line and ring for safety...not trying to knock on just concerned...u always do great work and u are very humble thats what i like about u most..be safe sir
I actually have a battery polesaw on the way right now and was hoping it would arrive in time for this project, but it did not. We did discuss rigging it up and pretensioning with the GRCS. Once we determined it was hung up by that limb at the top, we felt pretty certain that it wasn't going to go anywhere until we triggered it. If it had just been hanging on by fibers, there is no way we would have worked it like we did.
Great job Love your explanations
Good job, you two made it look easy
Thanks Michael! Work is always easier with friends 🤙
Oh it was a fun day Zach. Hope our friends are happy in the beach tree they went to!
It absolutely was!
Haha I'm sure they are. Might take them a day or two to catch up on their sleep, but I think they'll recover just fine 😂
Lots of opinions on the wisdom of your approach by youtubers who weren't there. I like that you two worked much of the broken top from above. I'll keep that in mind for my next broken out top.
Thanks.
Indeed, I don't always do a fantastic job of representing a situation for what it truely is and sometimes that makes it hard for other to share my perspective about a situation. It can be good though. I really enjoy and appreciate hearing other folks' ideas and aspirations.
Great job getting the job done with no collateral damage.
Thanks, Brandon!
Enjoyed the video. Nice fun job with a buddy.
Thanks!
Great job as always good to see you back. Buddy who was the guy you were working with god bless
Thanks Bill!
Cool job man
Thanks, Dan!
Thumbs up and Good morning. I'm finishing up a few things and then I'm going to hop on a bus I'm headed to the lake for the Polar Plunge I'm not going in the water but I'm going to watch for the first time. I don't know what makes me think I have spare time to do something like that but I'm going to do it right after church😂
Haha, that's awesome! Is there ice in the lake? I've never done anything like that myself.
@@zaccheus I don't think Lake Ontario has frozen over. I don't think it ever does I have not and would not do anything like that just in case my heart stopped LOL
@deadmanswife3625 lol, thats a fair reason to avoid a cold plunge in open water 😂 the great lakes always perplex me. Some years lake erie down here freezes, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it partially freezes 🤷♂️
@@zaccheus when it comes to Lake Erie I would say never hurts to blame Buffalo
@@deadmanswife3625 😂😂😂😂
Gooooood Morning Mr. Fancy flat flopper 😂😂😂
Haha good morning GP. I don't think I've even had a video with any solidly flat pieces in it recently 😂
Nice work bro. Curious, is that 16” bar on that 200T?
Thanks man! That was an 18" bar on Jon's 200T. I typically climb with a 201T that has a 16" light bar, but we had his saw with us, so that's what I used 😊
I would of been tied into the main stem with spikes on and just lean out and cut it so I wouldnt of been tied into the broken part. Could of done it way safer for sure. But overall got done safely all that really matters
Spikes are kinda hard on live tree though 😅 I was able to stay on the main stems there near the end, but that was only after we got some limbs off that allowed the top to swing back a little closer to the main stem. Someone else mentioned using a pole saw. I hate using big, heavy things in trees, but it might have been a safer solution, too.
@@zaccheus that tree is gonna become a more natural habitat than a live tree with how much was left and its just gonna rot more. And the spikes would not of hurt it with how hurt it already was. A pole saw would of worked but a waste of time
@brandon-rustystreecare Maybe you're right 🤷♂️ spiking it would have no real effect on the number of years that the tree will remain upright. But unless you have substantially longer arms than I or Jon have, you wouldn't have been able to make the same cuts from the stem.
@@zaccheus i wouldnt of made all those cuts like thay bc like you said under the tree was little sapling with no real value I and I have been tied in and almost laying down and able to reach out 10 feet
Nice job zach. Looks like you got a couple of haters in the comment section this morning.😂 Never fails!
Thanks man! Haha, that's okay. I learn more from alternative perspectives, and I do from similar perspectives, so I'm always happy to speak with someone who respectfully shares an alternative solution.
Zach thank God that ugly hanger went well very dangerous I can understand if there was an actual hazzard but why risk injury or dieing for a tree that one cut at bottom could take.care of it trust me tension on those limbs can really hurt you I cut white oak branch with tension on it only 2 in or so out of bucket truck when relieved tension hit my elbow needless to say ended up in ER 4 hrs later after they stitched my elbow. Please be extremely careful not with it for video content also base of tree look like had issues also
Thank you for your concern and sharing your experience. Those kinds of things do remind me to spend more time thinking and less time doing. We did consider cutting the tree down as a whole, but it wasn't what the park was looking for which is why they called Jon. It would have been pretty risky to fall too I think. With a hanger that big, it's hard to tell where exactly it's gonna go and how far it's going to reach. You're absolutely right, no tree is worth life or injury, I did not do a really good job of explaining our evaluation of the situation, but we did spend a good bit of time thinking and considering our options and we determined that our route was the safest route to accomplishing the goals for the job. That doesn't mean that it actually was the safest option, it's just what our experience and judgement determined to be the safest. I, especially, am not always 100% right.
All good hate to see anyone get hurt or killed had a friend die last year while felling tree with a assisted excavator pushing it rolled wrong way landed on him on a tree didn't matter which way it went
@robertvannicolo4435 I'm so sorry to hear that, Robert. Felling is a dangerous game. I had my own close call once and it definitely encouraged me to take safety more seriously.
The camera has a way of distorting our perception of reality. I'm sure that first branch you scooted up was a lot safer than it looked, ha ha.
Haha, yeah it does and I'm definitely learning to use that to my advantage for things like that 😅 good catch!
yeah buddy, your tie in limb was awful wiggly but you don't weigh anything anyway. You usually use a 201T? I've never really paid much attention to it. Good job you and John make a good team.
Haha, I'm 155 normal and 190ish with gear, but I didn't have full gear for that climb anyway 😅 my top handle saw is a 201T, the 200T was Jon's. Might have to race them someday 🤷♂️
#200tlife
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I have a raccoon story for you the next time we get together.
Ohhh boy, can't wait to hear!
Arborist, always making shit more difficult then needed, im glad im just a tree guy amd thats it.
Lol, what would you have done different?
This wasn’t a smart removal! You should know better than taking this risk. Thank god he is still alive. Hopefully thinking about how smart this was.
What would you have recommended?
Personaly i would have just used a winch to pull it down😮
@fabianostermaier6421 thank you for sharing that idea! We did consider something like that. But we could not get a truck close enough to pull and even if we could, I believe there would have been a strong chance that we broke the limb that the top was hanging on. It was definitely something worth considering though
@@zaccheus An Eder capstan winch is a great bit of kit to have for storm damage. Portable and powerful, and German as well, 👍💪🪓🌲🇩🇪🇮🇪
@TheToolnut I am not familiar with that brand. I looked them up, and it looks like a solid collection of portable capstan winches. I really like that they use 2 stoke engines rather than some competitors that use 4 stroke engines. I don't typically have a use for a winch like that, but I would expect it to be very handy when needed.